India v Pakistan | 3rd Test | Bangalore | Day 3 | 10/12/07

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4 more to Misbah

and that's the 50 partnership and less than 150 needed to avoid the follow on
 
I feel sorry for Ishant Sharma

His bowling average is almost three times worse than Sami's
 
and Ishant strike...


earlier couple of close calls against Iqbal and Misbah...his luck ran out this time..
 
now what was that appeal for against kami ?

Ishant can't you c it clearly hit the bat....
 
inzibhai said:
now what was that appeal for against kami ?

Ishant can't you c it clearly hit the bat....

it has to be one of the worst appeals ever !
 
Faisal gone! Congrats Ishant some cheer for his bowling. who's the next who can give stand to Misbah?
 
we have scored only 210 so far in whole day, need to score around 100 runs more.
let counter attack begin :D
 
an this time another appeal from IKp against misbah when it clearly hit the middle of the bat.....oh dear this guys can't even see ..
 
inzibhai said:
an this time another appeal from IKp against misbah when it clearly hit the middle of the bat.....oh dear this guys can't even see ..
Dude, the ball got squeezed between the bat and pad on that ocassion ... Dont know what you are watching but even Ian Bishop was saying that ! However, I agree with umpires decision ... You cannot give those out ! Too much doubt involved ...
 
Brilliant bowling by the youngster. Two close lbw appeals in that over and had Akmal jumping about. Clearly, India's Sami (according to a few PPers) causing Pakistan a few problems is an even bigger concern for Pakistan, isn't it ?? ;-)
 
Ian Bishop - "Its another lbw decision that has not gone in favor of Ishanth Sharma. Simon Taufel, one of the best umpires, not having one of his best days."

:) :) :)

So much for Pakistan not getting umpire decisions in favor of them ;-)
 
invincible said:
Brilliant bowling by the youngster. Two close lbw appeals in that over and had Akmal jumping about. Clearly, India's Sami (according to a few PPers) causing Pakistan a few problems is an even bigger concern for Pakistan, isn't it ?? ;-)

well you should check out Sami's first few tests! Had more than a couple of LBW appeals that's for sure!

Anyway, 302 for 5 after 100 overs. Another 125 runs needed to avoid the follow on.
 
invincible said:
Ian Bishop - "Its another lbw decision that has not gone in favor of Ishanth Sharma. Simon Taufel, one of the best umpires, not having one of his best days."

:) :) :)

So much for Pakistan not getting umpire decisions in favor of them ;-)

Taufel is the 2nd best umpire in the world. No Pakpassioner has ever called him biased!
 
Hash said:
well you should check out Sami's first few tests! Had more than a couple of LBW appeals that's for sure!

Anyway, 302 for 5 after 100 overs. Another 125 runs needed to avoid the follow on.
Oh, there's not an iota of doubt that Sami in his earlier days was as good as any young pacer. Infact that dream tour to NZ. made everyone feel as if Pak had unearthed another Pace talent. But he didn't carry on, did he ??

All I meant to say was Ishanth and the effort he's putting in is much more than that of present Sami.
 
invincible said:
Oh, there's not an iota of doubt that Sami in his earlier days was as good as any young pacer. Infact that dream tour to NZ. made everyone feel as if Pak had unearthed another Pace talent. But he didn't carry on, did he ??

All I meant to say was Ishanth and the effort he's putting in is much more than that of present Sami.

Personally, I have not been even in the least bit impressed by Ishant. Too much rubbish and not enough 'making the batsman play'.
 
Another failure for Yousuf, hasn't been the best of series for him. Did he throw it away or was it a decent ball?
 
Misbah playing every ball on its merit and on a pitch such as this its a very hard thing to do !

Against a team like Australia, he will be a huge impact in the middle order ...
 
Easa said:
Another failure for Yousuf, hasn't been the best of series for him. Did he throw it away or was it a decent ball?

threw it away

lazy shot. Lost his concentration....got into an argument with Kumble and Harbajan and got out a few balls later.
 
Easa said:
Another failure for Yousuf, hasn't been the best of series for him. Did he throw it away or was it a decent ball?
Threw it as if it were garbage ! :) Very unlikely of Yousuf, but true !

The ball was wide and over pitched ... Stretched out to it and hit it straight to point only to let Yuvi take a simple catch :)
 
invincible said:
Misbah playing every ball on its merit and on a pitch such as this its a very hard thing to do !

Against a team like Australia, he will be a huge impact in the middle order ...

I'm actually not worried about our batting. We are finally putting on opening partnerships of 40+ which was virtually non existent before, we have a strong middle order in Younis, Yousuf and Misbah plus a keeper who can bat well in Kamran.

Our problem is taking 20 wickets....our bench bowling just isn't good enough to do it. If we have Akhtar, Asif and Gul all fit and available, we will compete with them for sure. However if we are relying on the likes of Sami, I don't see it happening.
 
vandermadaveg said:
Guys, don't you have replacement for BHANJA?

Malik when he is fit.

For the future we have some very promising talent. Adnan Raza being one of them.
 
Hash said:
Malik when he is fit.

For the future we have some very promising talent. Adnan Raza being one of them.

May be, but 3 years down the line when MoYo and Misbah get retired, need one or two dude. (same is with India, in India case 4 guys gona get retired, but they have good backup).
 
Hash said:
I'm actually not worried about our batting. We are finally putting on opening partnerships of 40+ which was virtually non existent before, we have a strong middle order in Younis, Yousuf and Misbah plus a keeper who can bat well in Kamran.

Our problem is taking 20 wickets....our bench bowling just isn't good enough to do it. If we have Akhtar, Asif and Gul all fit and available, we will compete with them for sure. However if we are relying on the likes of Sami, I don't see it happening.
Against India's mediocre pace attack, and on placid tracks your batting is struggling a bit. They have not brought the authority where they can take a game away from the opposition into their batting. Ofcourse, its down to the fact that Yousuf had a below-par series. But, against the likes of Lee and Tait, it will be hard to take the attack to the opposition and put them under pressure.

And your bowling needs some bench strength desperately. Asif is the only one who is capable of winning a test. Gul is someone who needs support at the other end. In addition, I havent really seen him run through an opposition (in tests). ODI`s and T20`s have reduced his impact by making him bowl defensively. Akhtar - well, he is a real real surprise element and with his fitness at the moment, I highly doubt if he will last through a tough Australia series. With Kaneria being Kaneria, I highly doubt if you have enough resources in bowling as well.

The likes of Anwar Ali, the u-19 left armer should be drafted into the international team sooner than later. A bit of surprise element should bring innovation into this attack.
 
invincible said:
Against India's mediocre pace attack, and on placid tracks your batting is struggling a bit. They have not brought the authority where they can take a game away from the opposition into their batting. Ofcourse, its down to the fact that Yousuf had a below-par series. But, against the likes of Lee and Tait, it will be hard to take the attack to the opposition and put them under pressure.

The pitches in the Australia series are not exactly going to be bowler friendly either. In two test matches in this series our batsman have been totally up against it so they have never been in a position where they could take the game away from the opposition. We were in the 1st Test at one stage on the verge of taking it away from you but then we commited harakiri. Yousuf's poor form will not last for ever.

invincible said:
And your bowling needs some bench strength desperately. Asif is the only one who is capable of winning a test. Gul is someone who needs support at the other end. In addition, I havent really seen him run through an opposition (in tests). ODI`s and T20`s have reduced his impact by making him bowl defensively. Akhtar - well, he is a real real surprise element and with his fitness at the moment, I highly doubt if he will last through a tough Australia series. With Kaneria being Kaneria, I highly doubt if you have enough resources in bowling as well.

Well Gul did run through India once so you should remember that! He has run through England as well.....he is a fine bowler. Has had some stunning spells too. One in which he removed Gayle, Lara and Sarwan in quick succession. Was superb to watch that spell. Akhtar is lacking in match fitness at the moment but this series plus the two and a half month gap between now and Australia should help him. Kaneria always bowls well when there is someone at the other end putting some pressure on the batsman. Which is why if we have Actor, Aseef and Gull there will always be at least one of them bowling well which will reflect in Kaneria's bowling too.
 
99 more runs needed to avoid das follow oinen
 
50 partnership up

That's the fifth 50 partnership of the innings so far

341 for 5 (86 runs to avoid the follow on)
 
Hash said:
99 more runs needed to avoid das follow oinen

Pakistan are doing very well. Once we avoid the follow on Pakistan should be confident to save the match if things get tough. And with this confidence they should be able to push the Indians a little more.

But still 99 more runs.
 
the true passionist said:
Pakistan are doing very well. Once we avoid the follow on Pakistan should be confident to save the match if things get tough. And with this confidence they should be able to push the Indians a little more.

But still 99 more runs.

If we avoid the follow on the match will be a draw (unless we somehow manage to run through India in their 2nd innings). Kumble will not declare until well into day 5.
 
Kamran trying to beat Misbah to his 50
 
Hash said:
If we avoid the follow on the match will be a draw (unless we somehow manage to run through India in their 2nd innings). Kumble will not declare until well into day 5.

you are right..But got to hope for the best..
If Akhtar is fit..this pitch is still good to bowl on with the new ball.


And even if it doesn't happen..Kumble will be under pressure to give some outside chance to Pakistan on the fifith day, and with all to play for Pakistan has to go for it.

Butt all that is speculation, and hope, partly because i am up watching this game at 3:05 am.

Misbah on fifty now.
 
and it's close. Well done.

Good day for Pakistan.

369 for 5 (thats 283 runs scored for the loss of 4 wickets)
 
These sort of wickets are a disgrace. That is the reason the Asian teams struggle on the bouncy wickets of Australia and South Africa
 
Hopefully Akmal and misbah can both get hundreds like in last test match and then we can bowl india out for 120 in 2nd inns and win the game :)
 
2 POSTIVES to come from this series are the emergence of Misbah as a batsmen and S Butt has been very good and watchful through series with his performances.
 
Amjid Javed said:
2 POSTIVES to come from this series are the emergence of Misbah as a batsmen and S Butt has been very good and watchful through series with his performances.

agree

But Butt has a tendency to (for no reason whatsoever) go into a shell and play out 30 dot balls in a row. He always seems to get out not long after as well. I don't know why he does this.
 
I still say that unless Younus needs to declare after we bat out tomorrow morning's session by making as many runs as possible and avoiding the follow on. The game is heading towards a draw either way so we need to take our chance to try and win! C'mon Younus this is your chance to make a masterstroke and for Pakistan to show their worth on a pitch that is keeping really low now as Yuvraj's last over showed!
 
Hash,

I agree he needs to improve his strike rotation (Singles) and in that way he wont get fustrated and get out. He needs to get big scores (Hundreds) once he gets in.
 
Misbah ul Haq = Mr Cricketer of Pakistan
Yuvraj Singh = Mr Cricketer of India
Michael Hussey = Mr Cricketer of Australia
Kumar Sangakara = Mr Cricketer of Srilanka
 
The_Cricket_Devil said:
I still say that unless Younus needs to declare after we bat out tomorrow morning's session by making as many runs as possible and avoiding the follow on. The game is heading towards a draw either way so we need to take our chance to try and win! C'mon Younus this is your chance to make a masterstroke and for Pakistan to show their worth on a pitch that is keeping really low now as Yuvraj's last over showed!

Agree. We might as well go for it.

Play out the first 15 overs tomorrow with normal cricket and try to get another 50 runs and then we can go ballistic for the remainder of the session and the first 5 overs or so of the afternoon. Then declare. Highly improbable but if Akhtar can come up with one of those spells (like against Austalia in Colombo, New Zealand in, ummm, I forget) then we could be chasing 330 or so on day 5 which gives us a shout at leveling the series (which would be hilarious beyond imagination).
 
PakPassionate said:
Misbah ul Haq = Mr Cricketer of Pakistan
Yuvraj Singh = Mr Cricketer of India
Michael Hussey = Mr Cricketer of Australia
Kumar Sangakara = Mr Cricketer of Srilanka

It's 'Mr Cricket'!

Not 'Mr CricketER'!
 
Hash said:
Agree. We might as well go for it.

Play out the first 15 overs tomorrow with normal cricket and try to get another 50 runs and then we can go ballistic for the remainder of the session and the first 5 overs or so of the afternoon. Then declare. Highly improbable but if Akhtar can come up with one of those spells (like against Austalia in Colombo, New Zealand in, ummm, I forget) then we could be chasing 330 or so on day 5 which gives us a shout at leveling the series (which would be hilarious beyond imagination).

Well If Danish can get it to come onto the stumps with the type of bounce (or lack thereof) that Yuvi and Harbhajan were getting then I can see him causing a lot of trouble for India alongside, as you said, another one of "those" Akhtar spells. If anything though I do think that India will give a sporting declaration to Pakistan even if we do not run through them because they will feel victory could be theirs if they give us say 350-360 on the final day to chase on an uneven pitch. This match isn't a done deal yet in my opinion
 
PakPassionate said:
Misbah ul Haq = Mr Cricketer of Pakistan
Yuvraj Singh = Mr Cricketer of India
Michael Hussey = Mr Cricketer of Australia
Kumar Sangakara = Mr Cricketer of Srilanka
Yuvi hardly has the consistency of Kumar Sangakkara and Hussey. Odi's - may be ! But not in tests ... The WI tour an year ago re affirms my beliefs ... But he may be the backbone of our batting in the coming 5-6 years ...

Misbah is DEFINITELY not the mr.cricketer of Pak :D Yousuf is ! And then YK may be ! Misbah was mediocre in the series against South Africa ... His upcoming series against Australia will quantify him as a batsman :)
 
Hash said:
Agree. We might as well go for it.

Play out the first 15 overs tomorrow with normal cricket and try to get another 50 runs and then we can go ballistic for the remainder of the session and the first 5 overs or so of the afternoon. Then declare. Highly improbable but if Akhtar can come up with one of those spells (like against Austalia in Colombo, New Zealand in, ummm, I forget) then we could be chasing 330 or so on day 5 which gives us a shout at leveling the series (which would be hilarious beyond imagination).
i agree, we need to avoid the follow on in the first 15 overs or so, and then go totally crazy for about 25 overs. That is the only way we can have a chance of winning this
 
Another Draw on Hand

Looks to be another Draw. Indian bowlers are probably not capable of taking 20 wkts. Only if on the 5th day if pitch is unplayable, india might win other wise its going to be another dull draw. well played Pakistan.
 
adit_sh said:
Looks to be another Draw. Indian bowlers are probably not capable of taking 20 wkts. Only if on the 5th day if pitch is unplayable, india might win other wise its going to be another dull draw. well played Pakistan.

well played indian pitch curators. :)))
 
even in Pak fails to score 427, India will not enforce follow on.
the bounce is so unpredictable, he will not risk india batting on 5th day chasing pakistan score.
for all practical purposes, Misbah and Akmal look like they would repeat the kolkotta act again!

again, this is my humble opinion.
 
Pakistan doing well again with the bat! Let's see if they can pull a miracle out of their hat tomorrow
 
This match is heading towards a draw. Pakistan will not take chance until they really gain a lead. 257 runs? It will take just over 2 sessions to overhaul.! Then India bats.. they have 8 batsmen in their line up. They will bat on and on and on.
 
Another boring draw on cards. Curators for last two matches must be penalized along with the BCCI by ICC (or whomsoever responsible for this). Curse where it's due ...
 
If Misbah and Akmal can hang around and add 200 with the tail at 4RPO it will be game on. Indians will be in a catch 22 situation, weather to go for a win or play out for a draw, we know what happend the last time they played for a draw against us at this ground. If we can get these 200 runs quickly then the pressure will all be on India.
 
Pakistan has done a good job so far in terms of batting all the batsmen and Include Yasir and Faisal have play there bit they did not score a lot but have been part of paretnerships you can scopre 500 by a couple of bastmen making big runs or createing 50/60 partnerships. We still have Yasir, Shoaib and Sami to bat all can go horribly wrong but hopefully if we can push to 550 things may get interstesing but still 90% chance of draw thiswicket is good (and who could blame India the are already one up in the series and have been the better team
 
Pretty good day for Pakistan .If they really want to win they should declare before 400 and allow India to bat .
 
siddharth said:
Pretty good day for Pakistan .If they really want to win they should declare before 400 and allow India to bat .

before 400? Have you lost the plot?

Declare like 5-10 overs after lunch.
 
Agree with Hash, Need to play conservatively for the First hour then spped up and declare an hour and half after lunch. Yasir and kami need to score big and quick
 
Hope these two can last the first hour and go for it at 4/5 an over.

But if we lost a wicket early, then we will end up wasting a lot of time even if we avoid the follow on.
 
the true passionist said:
Hope these two can last the first hour and go for it at 4/5 an over.

But if we lost a wicket early, then we will end up wasting a lot of time even if we avoid the follow on.

the key is to get through the first hour without losing a wicket
 
This match is heading towards a draw , meaning india win the test series after 27 years thats a shocker :(
 
its impossible for pakistan to play brilliant and win this match , the only way we can win is for india to falter big time and get bowled out under 150 , looking at our bowling line up and at their batting line up , just sums it up
 
On behalf of the sane Indian forummers, apologies for what went one earlier on this thread. Holy carp!

Good fun and gentle ribbing is all right, and adds spice to India Pakistan encounters, but what one Indian forummer did was completely out of line. Perhaps the response of one Pakistani forummer was also over the top, but he is less to blame.

JosheelaKaptan you should remember that courage in defeat and grace in victory are the hallmark of a true man. In sports our victories are defined by the quality of those we defeat and at their worst Pakistan are always worthy opponents.

We are beating Pakistan as of now, so go ahead and have some fun, but to insult or mock a person, people, race or country is unmanly. And the latter is what you were doing, JK.

What comes around goes around. Fark me, it may come around in the next session!
 
This is the first commentary thread where we didnt have any Mod presence for the entire 2nd/3rd sessions.

Apologies for the nastiness.

The troll is no more.
 
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