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India v South Africa | 1st Test | Nagpur | 6-10 Feb '10

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abdul2009 said:
Why is ISatan Sharma unable to touch 135kmph??
Any reasons?

dont blame the pitch for this as well
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Because Poori takat jo bangaliaon ko out karna main lagadi thi abhi yuvraj wala born vita or sachin wala nestle chhahiya heheheheh

and he was at his best in Bangladesh
 
RexRex said:
My sixth sense tells me a wicket is around the corner.That of the big fish.
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Which corner are we talking about?
 
Indians are getting their behind handed to them by real No.1 :))) :))) :)) :))
 
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2/245, Amla on 93 Kallizzz :28: on 135. Come on Hashim! Get a ton too mate. India looking clueless in the field. What's Dhoni doing? Bring back Harbhadulkar!
 
Kallis is trying his best to deflect the ball around his legs on to his stumps.
 
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Amla. 100 runs. 200 balls. 300 mins. Can it get any better?
 
Ton for Amla gratz!! I foresee a declaration coming at 700 runs.
 
Good ton in his original home india...

Indian getting hundred in india against India :))) :)))
 
Maybe I shouldn't have started this thread .. i bring bad luck to the team.
 
When is Dhoni taking the new ball? Doesn't look like anyone can make use of the old one anyway.
 
Kallizzz :28: on 148 and on strike next over. Can he get his 150 against Harbhadulkar?
 
RexRex said:
Maybe I shouldn't have started this thread .. i bring bad luck to the team.
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:)))

That's taking self-flagellation to another level.
 
OZGOD said:
Kallizzz :28: on 148 and on strike next over. Can he get his 150 against Harbhadulkar?
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Only 50 runs to go for Kallizz before he starts to ***** himself on 199.
 
JustAnotherFan said:
Only 50 runs to go for Kallizz before he starts to ***** himself on 199.
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He'll score a tripple this innings.
 
Gratz to Kallizzz :28: for his 150! He and Amla are grinding India into the Nagpur dirt.
 
Man, Kallizzz :28: giving India a real klapping here eh
 
G.N.E said:
Man bowling in India is so difficult! If agarkar played 50% of his matches there like the over rated pollock donald etc he would average very less in tests. instead of the mid 30 he averages even though he bowl in easy South African conditions 50% of the time. Clearly the greatest BOWLER after asif ever !

:14:
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Whether you know it or not there is merit to this. South Africa has many bowlers who have been over rated becase they play so often on our conditions. Ntini averaged 22 in South Africa and over 40 elsewhere. South Africa is the hardest place in the world to bat. The average innings scores here are the lowest out of any test country. If Kallis played elswhere for 50% of his games he would avarege higher. Averaging 55 and playing in South Africa is easily equal to averaging 65 and playing 50% of the time in India.
 
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OZGOD said:
Man, Kallizzz :28: giving India a real klapping here eh
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Ha ha. You have some saffer neighbours I see. Perfect it next time by saying ..

"Jusslike ! Kallis is giving India a real klapping here hey !"

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Ponting is the only real contender to Kallis for the best bastman of this generation. Lara was brilliant but he also enjoyed flat Windies tracks. Tendulkar has been very average against South Africa and the better sides and frankly a it of a flat track bully. Inzi was a great character but the record falls shorts. So for me it's between Kallis and Ponting. And given Kallis currently with this innings pips ponting for average and is more than a year younger and plays in harder conditions...AND bowls with a 30 runs per wicket average....we got to give it to Kallis.

All time greats we must admit Kallis makes the top 5 list AT LEAST. I would have him as the second most valuable cricketer ever. Not joking.
 
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Saint29 said:
Indians are getting their behind handed to them by real No.1 :))) :))) :)) :))
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I don't want to be a moaner or anything, but why are we playing India in India again ? It's their turn to play here. Everyone knows they have NO CHANCe playing us on our tracks, but nobody is sure we don't have a chance when we play in India. So who seriously thinks India is better than South Africa ? Come on...grow up !
 
あなたがもっとインドのボウラーからのパフォーマンスがめちゃくちゃ見たことがありますか ？
 
saffer said:
I don't want to be a moaner or anything, but why are we playing India in India again ? It's their turn to play here. Everyone knows they have NO CHANCe playing us on our tracks, but nobody is sure we don't have a chance when we play in India. So who seriously thinks India is better than South Africa ? Come on...grow up !
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:20: :20:
 
saffer said:
I don't want to be a moaner or anything, but why are we playing India in India again ? It's their turn to play here. Everyone knows they have NO CHANCe playing us on our tracks, but nobody is sure we don't have a chance when we play in India. So who seriously thinks India is better than South Africa ? Come on...grow up !
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India doesn't like playing on bouncy wickets I think.
 
So the travesties continue..another pancake pitch?? Or will steyn wake it up??
 
saffer said:
Ha ha. You have some saffer neighbours I see. Perfect it next time by saying ..

"Jusslike ! Kallis is giving India a real klapping here hey !"

Back to cricket talk..


Ponting is the only real contender to Kallis for the best bastman of this generation show me a list which has been voted in by players which has Kallis ahead of SRT. Lara was brilliant but he also enjoyed flat Windies tracks. Tendulkar has been very average against South Africa and the better sides and frankly a it of a flat track bully. Inzi was a great character but the record falls shorts. So for me it's between Kallis and Ponting. And given Kallis currently with this innings pips ponting for average and is more than a year younger and plays in harder conditions...AND bowls with a 30 runs per wicket average....we got to give it to Kallis.

All time greats we must admit Kallis makes the top 5 list AT LEAST. I would have him as the second most valuable cricketer ever. Not joking.
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Thats the thing dude no one would put Kallis in the greatest top 5 except you, but SRT would be there show me a peice of data which is voted by experts that would rate Kallis above SRT.. SRT avgs over 50 in Australia, over 50 facing Ambrose & Co while Kallis till the recent victory in Oz has been quite average in Down Under. If you disect Kallis's stats in Oz before SA victory tour of Oz it could show some interesting stats. Kallis always had serious problems against Brett Lee (healthy Lee) that is.. Ponting has horrible record against India in India in 12 odd tests while SRT's avg of 35 against SA is much better in comparison..
 
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RexRex said:
あなたがもっとインドのボウラーからのパフォーマンスがめちゃくちゃ見たことがありますか ？
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なん度もあるよ。スラランカの9百以上覚えていない？
 
Romali_rotti said:
Ponting has horrible record against India in India in 12 odd tests while SRT's avg of 35 against SA is much better in comparison..
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Don't be comparing 2 stats which are not the same.

Ponting averages 47 against India, Tendulkar averages 35 against SA. :13:
 
Anyone know why the review system isn't being used?
 
Random Aussie said:
Don't be comparing 2 stats which are not the same.

Ponting averages 47 against India, Tendulkar averages 35 against SA. :13:
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Thing is if you want to have a claim to be one of the greatest bat, an avg of 17 against India in India will sure post a question mark.. An avg that low like the Bunny has in India is something I believe SRT doesnt have against any country in any country...
 
the Great Khan said:
Kallis is an all time great..don't understand why people think he isn't..
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No one is denying Kallis isnt an all time great but he sure wont be rated ahead of SRT the batsmen in that all time great list.. If there is any lists which has been put together by cricket experts that rate Kallis the bat ahead of SRT the bat, please do show..
 
Romali_rotti said:
Alliya Translate..
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He asked me had I seen a worse performance from Indian bowlers than today, I answered many times, and that had he forgot the more than 900 scored by Srilanka.
 
Momo said:
He asked me had I seen a worse performance from Indian bowlers than today, I answered many times, and that had he forgot the more than 900 scored by Srilanka.
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lol.... Good old Sri Lankans and their home conditions :D.
 
Romali_rotti said:
lol.... Good old Sri Lankans and their home conditions :D.
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:))

Very sporting, magnanimous, and gracious gentlemen, our Srilankan friends.
 
Thanks but no thanks....
Anyone would love to have Kallis in their team than an SRT (except some indians of course)... the man has a better avg than sachin and has got what about 250 wickets in tests???

Saying that, sachin has scored most of his runs on Flat tracks while kallis has done it on bowler paradises.

I for one rate kallis above SRT
 
abdul2009 said:
Thanks but no thanks....
Anyone would love to have Kallis in their team than an SRT (except some indians of course)... the man has a better avg than sachin and has got what about 250 wickets in tests???

Saying that, sachin has scored most of his runs on Flat tracks while kallis has done it on bowler paradises.

I for one rate kallis above SRT
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+ 10, King Abdullah has spoken..
 
Kallis in my view is the best batsman in the world if not ever.
 
saffer said:
Whether you know it or not there is merit to this. South Africa has many bowlers who have been over rated becase they play so often on our conditions. Ntini averaged 22 in South Africa and over 40 elsewhere. South Africa is the hardest place in the world to bat. The average innings scores here are the lowest out of any test country. If Kallis played elswhere for 50% of his games he would avarege higher. Averaging 55 and playing in South Africa is easily equal to averaging 65 and playing 50% of the time in India.
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stop dreaming kallis is dull and boring. No style or grace and you have the guts to compare him to Sachin.
 
Savak said:
Kallis in my view is the best batsman in the world if not ever.
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Does someone (anyone) getting runs when playing against India make you feel better after the 2020 match yesterday. Is it nice and soothing?
 
India are gonna get pumped by an innings here.
 
Natek said:
Does someone (anyone) getting runs when playing against India make you feel better after the 2020 match yesterday. Is it nice and soothing?
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Yes, that is very relevant
 
Natek said:
stop dreaming kallis is dull and boring. No style or grace and you have the guts to compare him to Sachin.
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Someone's been at the Kool Aid. All the "little master" propoganda has got to you. Kallis is extremely elegant and graceful as a player. No better cover drive in the game. Even though Sachin has played mostly in India where any half talented idiot can get a hundred, he averages LESS than Kallis.

Even very average Neil Mcenzie got a double hundred there last lear for example. Take away Tendulkars big scores on dead , dead flat tracks that Kallis might to get to play on once every 3 years but Indians play on 50% of the time and he would not Average 40 in test cricket.

You might argue Kallis is not great and a few silly people might agree, but you're never going to convince anyone who is a thinking person that Tendulkar is. Not when you consider he could only average slightly less as Kallis yet play more on much easier batting friendly wickets most of the time.

Ponting is the 1 only true rival Kallis has had in his career. Ponting also didn't get to play on those flat 500+ wickets in India half the time. But it is slightly easier to bat in Australia than South Africa. But Kallis currently averages more. So it's close but Kallis is winning it at the moment. Then consider Kallis is an allrounder. Can we at least now admit he's the greatest ever allrounder ? I mean...that's becomming veyr obvious....34 hundreds.....average of 55+ ...250 wickets at the bowling average of brett lee. I mean...come on.....he's the best allrounder ever by far !
 
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both srt and kallis are all time greats, anyone who suggests otherwise is deluded
few interesting stats, kallis averages 29 in england, guess you would expect more as he should be used to such conditions, also averages 35 in sri lanka, so his stats against these countries are boosted by his performances against them at home
suggesting srt is a ftb is also nonsense, he has 26 tons away from home and 19 at home, his home and away average are virtually identical as are kallis's
end of the day both are legends, kallis must be the greatest modern player overall due to his exceptional all round abilties
 
Agree with saffer tbh. Kallis may not look the best at times but he is a literal brick wall.
 
saffer said:
Whether you know it or not there is merit to this. South Africa has many bowlers who have been over rated becase they play so often on our conditions. Ntini averaged 22 in South Africa and over 40 elsewhere. South Africa is the hardest place in the world to bat. The average innings scores here are the lowest out of any test country. If Kallis played elswhere for 50% of his games he would avarege higher. Averaging 55 and playing in South Africa is easily equal to averaging 65 and playing 50% of the time in India.
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mate u got it wrong on the same sa pitches
ryder have an average of 111
even johnsan have avg of 85
gayle, strauss and ponting(54 in his all matches played in sa ) have avg above 50. then how can kallis b the only great batsman.
and the same ponting have avg of 20 in india. then how can u judge players greatness by the ground he plays( yesterday i played on grass wet pitch scored 74 no. so i am better than kallis?)
'ITS ABOUT HOW U ADJUST ON DIFF CONDITION' is used to judge the great players tendu has almost same avg everywhere 50.
how can u discridt him he is great if not g8est. KALLIS IS ONE OF THE BEST TEST ALROUNDER but as a best bat there are many.
 
Whoa! That was some performance by the Saffers and fair play to them.Well played sirs :14:

I hope India has a better day on the field tomorrow. Otherwise it is gonna be tough to even draw the match (let us not even go futher as it looks ridiculous ATM)

The likes of Sachin, Gambhir and Dhoni have to step up and take the responsibility on them and score lots of runs at this critical juncture . It is unfair to expect a couple of debutants and a rookie (Vijay) to handle the pressure as well as the seniors. And as for Viru...well he is always a lottery.

We have a pretty interesting game on our hands. Brace yourselves yaaron! As for me I will support my team - rain or shine! Go India!
 
I hope there is a small lesson to learn for Pakistan batsmen as how to deal with pressure when your openers fall cheaply. There is no need to do tuk tuk tuk tuk tuk till the 89th over of the day and keep falling like flies till then.... you respond with singles and doubles and put the pressure back on the bowling and fielding to finally launch an assault.
Well played Amla, Well played Kallis.
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On a side note, I do agree with saffer on the fact that indeed South Africa is the most difficult places to bat... it's another story that how visiting batsmen cope with the conditions but indeed, its hard to stay on the wicket in South Africa.
 
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Khan to Prince, OUT, 128.4 kph, Given out caught behind but it went of the arm-guard. Now then... now then .. What a ferocious delivery. Zaheer Khan serves up a well-directed bouncer at the face. A stunned Prince takes out the bottom-hand off the handle and offers the bat as a face-shield.

Just read it on Cricinfo. 128.4kph bouncer labelled as FEROCIOUS! :)))
 
Poison said:
Khan to Prince, OUT, 128.4 kph, Given out caught behind but it went of the arm-guard. Now then... now then .. What a ferocious delivery. Zaheer Khan serves up a well-directed bouncer at the face. A stunned Prince takes out the bottom-hand off the handle and offers the bat as a face-shield.

Just read it on Cricinfo. 128.4kph bouncer labelled as FEROCIOUS! :)))
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It must be a speed gun error. Must have been at least 20 kph faster :akhtar
 
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