India vs Austraila | 1st ODI | CB Series | Brisbane | 2/2/2008

[kashmiri]

Tell me a pakistani player whowill walk like that

check this out. Bharat B. Waasi

The rain is back and everyone's going off. I don't think they will come back on. Its happened once too often. Harbhajan patted Clarke on the bum as he walked away. Clarke just smiled, but then of course the cameras were on him. Symonds didn't see it, as he was already walking off. Don't tell me we will have another incident. Its raining and the covers are back on.

Does he never learn

 

[161]

Ye Bharat B. waasis, tell me an indian player who would walk off like that

well i can name a few who whine like little girls when the opposition doesn't walk .. namely their little hero mad man sunny.

did he go ballistic when pathan didn't walk ?

 

[Punter]

When Ponting his team mate doesn't follow that example why would others follow!

Lol during the series the Indians haven't been walking aswell especially in the first test when they would just stand their and think they can now boss around the umpire's to give them not out like they think they can control the ICC cause they cry like a little 5 year old that wants a toy.

 

[AK600]

the only reason gilly walked is coz hes retiring and knows that he needs to be in the ipl to earn his bread from now on.

and u cant be in the ipl if the indian media bashes you now can u? so it was an intelligent choice. dont forget, hes the guy who claimed a ridiculous catch of dravid BEFORE he had thought about retiring.

 

[Rajan]

AK 600,

I must say u r very wrong here.
Gilly has been walking ever since his debut.
there was nothing like IPL anywhere, even in the distant horizon too when he walked off in an one day match against SL, when he was batting in the 90's.

 

[Dhonifan]

wow, just checked the scores and match seemed to be poised evenly between the 2 teams. 3 down for Aus and seamers doing a nice job...

Did this really happen? LOL
from cricinfo
The rain is back and everyone's going off. I don't think they will come back on. Its happened once too often. Harbhajan patted Clarke on the bum as he walked away. Clarke just smiled, but then of course the cameras were on him. Symonds didn't see it, as he was already walking off. Don't tell me we will have another incident.

 

[Dhonifan]

Walking or not walking is not the problem, it's when the bloody umpire refuses to raise the finger, or consult the 3rd umpire, that is the problem!

 

[161]

wow, just checked the scores and match seemed to be poised evenly between the 2 teams. 3 down for Aus and seamers doing a nice job...

Did this really happen? LOL
from cricinfo
The rain is back and everyone's going off. I don't think they will come back on. Its happened once too often. Harbhajan patted Clarke on the bum as he walked away. Clarke just smiled, but then of course the cameras were on him. Symonds didn't see it, as he was already walking off. Don't tell me we will have another incident.

there was a thread created on this .. but it mysteriously disappeared ..

is the BCCI pulling the strings behind PP as well ?

 

[161]

Walking or not walking is not the problem, it's when the bloody umpire refuses to raise the finger, or consult the 3rd umpire, that is the problem!

sreesanth hardly even appealed there ... none of the slips reacted much .. i think the only man who knew it was gilli .. that's why kudos to him for walking.

 

[jackal786]

Lol during the series the Indians haven't been walking aswell especially in the first test when they would just stand their and think they can now boss around the umpire's to give them not out like they think they can control the ICC cause they cry like a little 5 year old that wants a toy.

I must say.. Australian team never had a chance to whine as they were winning everything. Last they whined was against England about substitute fielders. When you beat OZ they also bring up their champion whinging and crying skills that is no match for the crying of others. Witnessed over a few weeks here. What is with that booing of harbhy everywhere. Still you are hurt. deeplly deeply hurt. lol.. That is why still.. BCCI, ICC< monkey these words keep on deafening our ears. More you whinge about ICC, more it shows your vulnerability not the cool side of Australians.

 

[jackal786]

AK600, one thing i disagree is.. Gilly explained later why he appealed for that. I was convinced. He is a really really nice guy. Very down to earth guy. One guy i like a lot from OZ team. Just ignore some trolls who is bringing up past incidents irrelevantly, whose team has been nothing but controversy in the last 24 months.

 

[Dhonifan]

sreesanth hardly even appealed there ... none of the slips reacted much .. i think the only man who knew it was gilli .. that's why kudos to him for walking.

of course you will ignore any Indian batsman doing the same!

Gilly is a decent chap, but u seem to be implying that the umpire would not have raised his finger this time. Umpires have raised the finger on even more muted appeals. Nuff said.

 

[Rajan]

there was a thread created on this .. but it mysteriously disappeared ..

is the BCCI pulling the strings behind PP as well ?

now, even the PP forummers would understand that ur conspiracy theories of blaming BCCI for everything is plain ridiculous.

 

[jackal786]

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now, even the PP forummers would understand that ur conspiracy theories of blaming BCCI for everything is plain ridiculous.

Have you seen the movie Munich? lol That guy gets extremely paranoid..in it. He has become like that He is suspecting everyone now.

 

[Tupac]

India ) )

not sitting so pretty now after hopes stumps were flattened?

anyways i guess if we're rebuilding the team we need to be patient with them for a bit....the fielding looked good for the time we were out there, and if pathan gets his radar right he could be dangerous. But good bowling again from Sree and Sharma. The next game against Lanka is another opportunity for the new guys to show what we have.

 

[jackal786]

not sitting so pretty now after hopes stumps were flattened?

anyways i guess if we're rebuilding the team we need to be patient with them for a bit....the fielding looked good for the time we were out there, and if pathan gets his radar right he could be dangerous. But good bowling again from Sree and Sharma. The next game against Lanka is another opportunity for the new guys to show what we have.

Yes. We have to be patient not worrying about the results. Indian selectors have impressed us after a long time with future in view.

 

[Tupac]

Yes. We have to be patient not worrying about the results. Indian selectors have impressed us after a long time with future in view.

i don't think so. Dada scored over 1100 runs for us last year and still got dropped. Same with Rahul Dravid who had a decent year..800 runs at 37. Now we have people who barely go on A tours representing India. Indian selectors are idiots. When we want change, they don't give it to us. Or they give us so much that it's not necessary. This is a much better lineup IMHO:

Saurav Ganguly
Sachin Tendulkar
Rahul Dravid
Yuvraj Singh
Rohit Sharma
Gautam Gambhir
Mahendra Singh Dhoni
Irfan Pathan
Harbhajan Singh
Ishant Sharma
Sreesanth

 

[Indiagem]

I think it is ok to have the youngsters playing. I hope they will get the requisite experience in these matches. Let Ganguly and Dravid take some rest. If we need them we can brign them after this series. Even if youngsters led by Dhoni lose all the matches it is fine with me. I just want them to give some fight back to the OZ and SL teams. Here they are being baptized by fire. We can seperate the men from these boys after this series.

One thing for sure they make the fielding much better.

So all my best wishes to the tribal prince and his sena.

Atleast some of our batsmen got the required batting practice in the 1st one day. That is good.

 

[Sahastra]

ODI is a game of uncertainties. But here is my take based on the face value.

When India were 6 down for 100 odd, the balance was 80-20 in favour of Aussies.

When India made 194, it was 60-40 in favour of the Ausies.

When Aussies lost Gilly, Ponting and were 3 down for 40 odd, it was 55-45 in favour of India.

Watching Clarke and ymonds discomfort and the way bll was shaping up and in context of the target, match ended when it was 60-40 in favour of India.

Quite odd turnaround and i would say, some good fightback.

 

[Sahastra]

Gilchrist started to walk only in the last 4 years, or since the World cup in SA.

Excellent gestures nonetheless but dangerous precedents or as Indian/Pakistani fans will say "Nau Sau Choohe Khaake Billi Hajj Ko Chali".

There are infinitely more players who walked when they nick, with 1/10th the publicity. Bar Aussies, every team had them until gilly decided to do the same for the Aussies.

From Indian team, Laxman has always walked. Sachin and Dravid walked all their lives but i think they have stopped being so generous in past couple of years - the bitterness of so many umpiring blunders, especially in case of Sachin, finally getting to them.

 

[jackal786]

i don't think so. Dada scored over 1100 runs for us last year and still got dropped. Same with Rahul Dravid who had a decent year..800 runs at 37. Now we have people who barely go on A tours representing India. Indian selectors are idiots. When we want change, they don't give it to us. Or they give us so much that it's not necessary. This is a much better lineup IMHO:

Saurav Ganguly
Sachin Tendulkar
Rahul Dravid
Yuvraj Singh
Rohit Sharma
Gautam Gambhir
Mahendra Singh Dhoni
Irfan Pathan
Harbhajan Singh
Ishant Sharma
Sreesanth

If Seniors faill.. we cringe and say.. Where are the young guns.. these are oldies.. Look at the fielding today. They were energetic. You have a feeling that India can defend even a smallish total with this fielding. Mind you.. if a team is not used to the condition be it is senior or junior they are going to fail. I bet Dravid wouldn't have definitely played any better than Rohit Sharma. Sehwag has been in such good form. He provides an option of bowling. He is a better fielder than Ganguly. I would pick Sehwag over Ganguly any day in current form. Only thing is Yuvi is missing. That's about it. I don't think India would have done well even with seniors without Yuvi.

 

[jackal786]

We have to take gambles like this. Introducing them against Bangladesh on the dead and buried tracks in India, BD will not give an idea where these guys stand. It is not like India will mop floor with Australia if seniors had played. Gangu has played 9 times in Australia. India lost 8 of them against Australia in Australia. One brilliant run out can turn the match around. With those old legs around.. brilliant run out was distant dream. Now it can be a more a reality.

 

[Sahastra]

I can live with a few defeats if it helps us get some answers on what can we expect og the generation next.

My only disappointment is not playing Raina. Idiotic decision.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Well not bad.

 

[Tupac]

one thing we need to say that one thing this team does not lack is spirit. They fight till the end, which is great to see

 

[Amir]

India saved by rain. People wil aruge they were 3 wickets down but I am talking abotu the whole match. At six down, India probaly would have not got past 200 (or just barely) and then the aussies could have 50 overs to chase the target. Even after the 45 overs were played, Indias score was still not good enough if the Aussies were given the full 45 overs.

141 in 26 overs is in the high 5s per over and that can be difficult anytime espically with the pitch absorbing some of the rain, thus helping the bowlers get a bit more juice out of teh wicket.

 

[Crusader]

ODI is a game of uncertainties. But here is my take based on the face value.

When India were 6 down for 100 odd, the balance was 80-20 in favour of Aussies.

When India made 194, it was 60-40 in favour of the Ausies.

When Aussies lost Gilly, Ponting and were 3 down for 40 odd, it was 55-45 in favour of India.

Watching Clarke and ymonds discomfort and the way bll was shaping up and in context of the target, match ended when it was 60-40 in favour of India.

Quite odd turnaround and i would say, some good fightback.

You are not considering the fact that when Ozs came to bat last enough moisture has got into the surface and the ball seemed to talk more.Irfan Pathan was getting hammered all over the park when the innings started. It was only because of the rain that India's RR went up and the equations started to change. I would still favor a line up with at least 2 of the Big three. Anyway as you said lets judge once we have a few full matches, abandoned matches wont give you any idea. Mind it Indias problem is not with Bowling but with Batting - They were 100/6 at one stage and every day Harbhi and Pathan wont score runs.

 

[Sahastra]

If you are saying that the Rain made the pitch lively, then the same applies for Pathan-Dhoni's batting. Afterall, they too were batting after rain.

India lost last 3 wickets trying to slog. If it was a 50 over match - the way they batted until the last over, they seemed more likely to go all the way.

Rain interruptions may have calmed some nerves but it is not unlikely that Pathan and Dhoni would've done the same or better if there was no interruption.

Again, ifs and buts - but lets keep some consistency based on what we saw happening.

Australia are clealy the better team and might win the next 3 authoritatively. But this one saw some good fightback by India team. Bowlers showed the kind of zip that should be soothing for the sore-eyes.

 

[Tupac]

India saved by rain. People wil aruge they were 3 wickets down but I am talking abotu the whole match. At six down, India probaly would have not got past 200 (or just barely) and then the aussies could have 50 overs to chase the target. Even after the 45 overs were played, Indias score was still not good enough if the Aussies were given the full 45 overs.

141 in 26 overs is in the high 5s per over and that can be difficult anytime espically with the pitch absorbing some of the rain, thus helping the bowlers get a bit more juice out of teh wicket.

why india saved by rain? India could have still won the game after we had 3 wickets down. Even if we took away that situation and say when India was 150/6, Dhoni and Bhajji were batting very well. A target of 200 is still defendable, especially with rain in the air.

There was a big rain delay in the Indian innings as well, but Dhoni and Bhajji played very well. But with Sharma and Sree on fire, I'd say we had a decent shot at winning the game.

 

[jackal786]

India saved by rain. People wil aruge they were 3 wickets down but I am talking abotu the whole match. At six down, India probaly would have not got past 200 (or just barely) and then the aussies could have 50 overs to chase the target. Even after the 45 overs were played, Indias score was still not good enough if the Aussies were given the full 45 overs.

141 in 26 overs is in the high 5s per over and that can be difficult anytime espically with the pitch absorbing some of the rain, thus helping the bowlers get a bit more juice out of teh wicket.

coulda woulda shoulda ... Fact is Indian bowlers outbowled Australia in their own backyard.. Perth. So it is rather rubbish to attribute their success to rain, wind, cloud, grass et al. Basically you are coming up with a excuse on behalf of Australia. I don't think even Australians will accept that excuse.

 

[Dhonifan]

as I said, game was poised evenly. another wkt or 2 quickly would have made it India's game, and it did look likely with the seamers doing their job well.

still, India will take the 2 pnts gladly as australians have the ability to throw their bats around till the end.

Most importantly, team fought back and did not give up. That is all that is needed right now. If they keep fighting they will win sooner than later.

bad news: Ind/SL match also is going to be rained out I heard.

 

[OzPride]

BTW jackal thanks for the rain last night buddy, I owe u. Oz innings was starting to look a bit shaky, Sree and Sharma had the ball moving all over the place. The last time i saw something move like that i bought her a drink and asked for a dance...LOL

 

[Sahastra]

BTW jackal thanks for the rain last night buddy, I owe u. Oz innings was starting to look a bit shaky, Sree and Sharma had the ball moving all over the place. The last time i saw something move like that i bought her a drink and asked for a dance...LOL

OzPride,

We know how to invoke the wrath of rain-god. Make sure you don't try to beat us black and blue (oh wait, yellow and blue - black is racist).

 

[OzPride]

OzPride,

We know how to invoke the wrath of rain-god. Make sure you don't try to beat us black and blue (oh wait, yellow and blue - black is racist).

LOL...only if the stump microphone hears.