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Indian nationalist party BJP supporters to campaign in UK against Labour

OTOH you hold an extreme view that while pakistanis are free to bring a non british issue to UK and protest and a political party support s them, its wrong if Indians dont support such a party.

Interference? Does bjp have a vote in UK?

Its labour who interfered in the indian constituinal process, via which an article was amended.

As i said Kashmir had nothing to do with UK. Yet labour got itself tangled into it.

You are free to feel anyway. Its your freedom.

Lol what.....protesting about anything even if it relates to a political issue in other countries is not extreme behaviour. It happens all the time and if quite normal. Violent protests are, which neither I nor the Labour Party condone. The Labour Party did not attack anyone and they protested in their own country not in India. You on the other hand are an extremist for supporting foreign interest in a democratic process which as I have told you is disgusting.

You keep saying that my issue is with Indians not supporting Labour. Why are you putting words in my mouth and lying. My issue is with campaigning to intervene in an election on behalf of a foreign political party. Campaigning to sway votes to benefit a foreign political party is interfering. You don’t have to vote to interfere. The Russians interfered in the US elections without needing to vote. They did it by influencing people, just like the BjP is doing. Why do you think the US is all up in arms about it.

Labour did not interfere in any Indian process. They criticised and have the right to do so. Labour interfering would be swaying public opinion in India or through other means such as bribery, etc. They have not been involved in any of this. Labour hasn’t got itself tangled into Kashmir. Again, it has criticised and protested, which is very different to what you are making it out to be....I.e. interfering.

You have lost the argument and are simply defending your extreme views.
 
Where is bjp campaigning?

These are British citizens.

FYI no foreign citizen can vote in India or be part of a registered political party.

Since when did I say a foreign citizen is voting in India. The article I posted from a credible website is saying that it is BJP who is campaigning through their affiliation.
 
The article states, ‘campaigners linked to Indian BJP party’.
 
The article states, ‘campaigners linked to Indian BJP party’.

It also says

“It is unclear whether OFBJP receives funding from the main Hindu nationalist party back in India, and the group did not immediately respond to Sky News' enquiries.“

so wait till that is proved which I believe it is but since you take written word as proof wait it out.
 
Where is bjp campaigning?

These are British citizens.

FYI no foreign citizen can vote in India or be part of a registered political party.

Yes, they are not dual citizens, just British. So why are British citizens campaiging for an Indian political party and because of their stance in Kashmir?
 
Yes, they are not dual citizens, just British. So why are British citizens campaiging for an Indian political party and because of their stance in Kashmir?

Same reason why Pak matters to you maybe?
 
So the issue among Brit Pakistanis is that its not an issue when they support PCT or Pakistan but have an issue with Brit Indians do the same?
 
So the issue among Brit Pakistanis is that its not an issue when they support PCT or Pakistan but have an issue with Brit Indians do the same?
Another Jonny Come-Lately.
Go read the thread from the start. Your question has already been answered.
 
Another Jonny Come-Lately.
Go read the thread from the start. Your question has already been answered.

Yeah but still managed to repeat same nonsense later, check the post above mine unless you are a selective reader in that case I understand your situation.
 
It also says

“It is unclear whether OFBJP receives funding from the main Hindu nationalist party back in India, and the group did not immediately respond to Sky News' enquiries.“

so wait till that is proved which I believe it is but since you take written word as proof wait it out.

It also has a direct quote from the President of the friends of BJP group, as

“We have a team in each constituency which is going round with the Tory candidate leafleting, speaking to people and persuading them to vote Tory,” said Kuldeep Singh Shekhawat. “The teams are organised by the BJP and Friends of India Society International.”

As above, he’s quoted to have said, ‘organised by the BJP’. Not friends of BJP but BJP itself. Pretty blatant. The utter stupidity to admit to interference. Don’t these fools have brains. Even the Russians have not admitted to interference. Lol
 
They probably have OCI card. Try again

Probably :)))

Do you think they will attack me if I come out of the butchers shop with some beef? This is something you can answer, hope youre happy now you have attention. :)
 
Yeah but still managed to repeat same nonsense later, check the post above mine unless you are a selective reader in that case I understand your situation.
You’re just going round in circles, there’s a huge difference between a Brit Asian supporting the cricket team of his ancestors and Brit Asians affiliated to the ruling party of a country trying to influence the general elections in the UK.
 
It also has a direct quote from the President of the friends of BJP group, as

“We have a team in each constituency which is going round with the Tory candidate leafleting, speaking to people and persuading them to vote Tory,” said Kuldeep Singh Shekhawat. “The teams are organised by the BJP and Friends of India Society International.”

As above, he’s quoted to have said, ‘organised by the BJP’. Not friends of BJP but BJP itself. Pretty blatant. The utter stupidity to admit to interference. Don’t these fools have brains. Even the Russians have not admitted to interference. Lol

Russians are obviously smarter.

He can easily come back saying short for OFBJP is BJP, UK elections always have this , even Sadiq vs Goldsmith was crap.
 
Russians are obviously smarter.

He can easily come back saying short for OFBJP is BJP, UK elections always have this , even Sadiq vs Goldsmith was crap.

So why did he follow it up with friends of India Society International. He didn’t shorten that did he. Clearly he isn’t very intelligent. Lol
 
So why did he follow it up with friends of India Society International. He didn’t shorten that did he. Clearly he isn’t very intelligent. Lol

Who knows BJP are usually loud mouth , Congress would do it internally and not tell.
 
Is the British Sikh vote going to side with this group as British Sikhs make up a significant chunk of the British Indian population? Or is this purely to do with with extremist Hindus in the UK.

TBH, can't see this being much of an issue as British Hindus will probably be more concerned with domestic issues than anywhere else.
 
Is the British Sikh vote going to side with this group as British Sikhs make up a significant chunk of the British Indian population? Or is this purely to do with with extremist Hindus in the UK.

TBH, can't see this being much of an issue as British Hindus will probably be more concerned with domestic issues than anywhere else.

Cases like this will probably make your Sikh community lean with the Hindus even if they are not keen in doing so - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7825480/sexual-exploitation-sikh-girls-ignored-police/
 
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What are you on about now. The BJP is campaigning against a British political party for its own interests. That is interfering.

Brit-indians can campaign for whoever they want on whose ever behalf .. as long as there isn't a direct financial link between BJP and these british indians.
 
Brit-indians can campaign for whoever they want on whose ever behalf .. as long as there isn't a direct financial link between BJP and these british indians.

Uhhh. The president of the Overseas Friends of the BJP openly admitted to the BJP being behind the campaign. You don’t need a financial link when the person openly admits to it.
 
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Brit-indians can campaign for whoever they want on whose ever behalf .. as long as there isn't a direct financial link between BJP and these british indians.
Why they need to pay directly when they can legally bribe these political parties and politicians
 
Since when did I say a foreign citizen is voting in India. The article I posted from a credible website is saying that it is BJP who is campaigning through their affiliation.

BJP cannot have a foreign citizen as an affiliate. If some people outside India support BJP and call themselves friends of BJP, they dont become BJP's affiliate.
 
BJP cannot have a foreign citizen as an affiliate. If some people outside India support BJP and call themselves friends of BJP, they dont become BJP's affiliate.

What a joke. So BJP has never lobbied outside of India, has never paid money to organisations outside of India? Stop lying and presenting your masters as saints who have no vested interests outside of India. They may not have British citizens as actual members, but you are naive to think they don’t have organisations reporting to them. The article states there is a direct link to the BJP with the OSBJP. Your biased opinion matters zilch compared to a credible source.
 
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It also has a direct quote from the President of the friends of BJP group, as

“We have a team in each constituency which is going round with the Tory candidate leafleting, speaking to people and persuading them to vote Tory,” said Kuldeep Singh Shekhawat. “The teams are organised by the BJP and Friends of India Society International.”

As above, he’s quoted to have said, ‘organised by the BJP’. Not friends of BJP but BJP itself. Pretty blatant. The utter stupidity to admit to interference. Don’t these fools have brains. Even the Russians have not admitted to interference. Lol

Is this quote from the link posted in OP?
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"Similarly, a political party or individual in another country may express support for a British political party, but could not provide funding for campaign activity unless the funds were raised from permissible donors - eg individuals on an electoral register within the UK or the other sources listed in our guidance."

This is what the electoral commission said according to the OP.
 
"Similarly, a political party or individual in another country may express support for a British political party, but could not provide funding for campaign activity unless the funds were raised from permissible donors - eg individuals on an electoral register within the UK or the other sources listed in our guidance."

This is what the electoral commission said according to the OP.

Yes, you are referring to funding here because directly funding makes it illegal. The point we are debating is direct interference through campaigning regardless of funding or not. The BJP even if they aren’t funding the campaign by the OFBJP, are directly interfering in the UK’s democratic process.

Hopefully this is investigated and if it turns out that BJP funding was used as well, then I would enjoy the ramifications of that.
 
Yes, you are referring to funding here because directly funding makes it illegal. The point we are debating is direct interference through campaigning regardless of funding or not. The BJP even if they aren’t funding the campaign by the OFBJP, are directly interfering in the UK’s democratic process.

Hopefully this is investigated and if it turns out that BJP funding was used as well, then I would enjoy the ramifications of that.

According to Electoral commission if there is no funding its fine.

There are plenty of Indians with deep pockets in UK to fund this.

You and your hopes.LOL.

Ramifications.LoL.
 
According to Electoral commission if there is no funding its fine.

There are plenty of Indians with deep pockets in UK to fund this.

You and your hopes.LOL.

Ramifications.LoL.

My hopes lol. No.....if it’s illegal than the ramifications would be jail. That’s how it works you know, unlike your corrupt country. We shall see who is funding them. Israelis fund the friends of Israel groups in the U.K., but unlike your dumb party, they don’t openly admit to democratic interference. If Israel does it, I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens in this case.
 
And it’s not fine just because there is no funding. It’s still direct interference and should be thoroughly investigated.
 
Thats a very little known media site.

The OP or other media sites do not contain such quotes.
Respond to the article, we don’t need your opinions on how popular the site is.
Some Tories have also raised concerns about Indian policy in Kashmir.
What to do now, OFBJP? Are you going to campaign against the Tories as well?
 
https://news.sky.com/story/general-...ers-to-campaign-in-uk-against-labour-11854965

Does this mean someone with brown shorts and a white shirt will be knocking my door soon?

RSS are wrong, the British Indian vote has nothing to do with Kashmir. They vote for what beneifts them in the UK which is why they are sometimes Labour and sometimes Conservative.

BJP/RSS should stay in their own country and not intefere in a land which they dont understand. We do not need extremists here. :)

To summarize, a Hindutva terrorist cell has been identified in the UK.

Now what should be interesting is how Priti Patel, the Home Secretary, will deal with this.
 
I look forward to one of these goons knocking on my door..

on the british streets everyone from asia is the P word. The indian community know this...i have tons of Indian friends..hardly any vote tory..they know they have to stick together to achieve anything in this country..

However there is an increasingly racist undercurrent amongst the Hindu community that is starting to vote Tory. They dont believe in universal health care, workers rights, universal suffarage, human rights, or equality. They believe in money and superiority. End of. they are represented by people like Priti patel a card carrying racist who supports the caste system.

We should be cautious
 
OMG :))) So this is the Hindutva - British regiment is it?

I remember encountering these **** on my university campus. They were trying to pass themselves off as a legitimate charity. But I did some research and made a complaint. They were not seen again.

If you see these saffron terrorists campaiging I would suggest you confront them legally and make sure that the people they are campaigning for are made aware of their activities..
 
I remember encountering these **** on my university campus. They were trying to pass themselves off as a legitimate charity. But I did some research and made a complaint. They were not seen again.

If you see these saffron terrorists campaiging I would suggest you confront them legally and make sure that the people they are campaigning for are made aware of their activities..

Saffron terrorist?Which terror group will that be?Are they banned in UK? Which terrorist activity did they carry out in UK to which you are referring?
 
on the british streets everyone from asia is the P word. The indian community know this...i have tons of Indian friends..hardly any vote tory..they know they have to stick together to achieve anything in this country..

However there is an increasingly racist undercurrent amongst the Hindu community that is starting to vote Tory. They dont believe in universal health care, workers rights, universal suffarage, human rights, or equality. They believe in money and superiority. End of. they are represented by people like Priti patel a card carrying racist who supports the caste system.

We should be cautious

The Indian community knows that at the end of the day pakistanis are not the group with whom they will have a common long term. While the Indian community will be diverse in religion, pakistani ones will be nearly homogenous. This will separate the two.

Pakistanis ultimately will not agree with the political views of India and will result in a situation that happened at the IHC.

It only became more and more apparent how Indians csnnot stick with pakistanis.
 
My hopes lol. No.....if it’s illegal than the ramifications would be jail. That’s how it works you know, unlike your corrupt country. We shall see who is funding them. Israelis fund the friends of Israel groups in the U.K., but unlike your dumb party, they don’t openly admit to democratic interference. If Israel does it, I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens in this case.

This is not pakistan, where people are put into jail simply because they do not agree with views of the establishment.

The bjp has not said a word. Lol.

Keep hoping.
 
Indian community coming and trying to vote againist the labour party supported by pak community has given quiet pakistanis on this forum quiet the burn.
 
Indian community coming and trying to vote againist the labour party supported by pak community has given quiet pakistanis on this forum quiet the burn.

Last time I checked RSS wanted to limit their influence in India.

Are you British? Lol
 
Are you of Indian origin?

Poor you.RSS gives you nightmares.

Oh lord.

Are you a British citizen?

Trust me no RSS sanghi Is capable of giving me nightmares unless I was living in India then as a minority I should be worried about my safety and well being.

But enough with your false bravado and you letting us experience your worrier skills, that is keyboard worrier, answer this question? Are you a British citizen?

And if not then you thought you should defend Indians in Britain for being exposed as racist just because ?
 
Why will they knock on your door? Are you of Indian origin?

yes I am..
Both parents born in India, Indian side of the border.

So unfortunate as it may be, I am of Indian Origin as are some members of my family
who continue to live in India.
 
yes I am..
Both parents born in India, Indian side of the border.

So unfortunate as it may be, I am of Indian Origin as are some members of my family
who continue to live in India.

If you’re Muslim then for most Sanghi Your parents shouldn’t be indian.
 
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yes I am..
Both parents born in India, Indian side of the border.

So unfortunate as it may be, I am of Indian Origin as are some members of my family
who continue to live in India.

If both your parents held Indian citizenship when you were born, then ofcourse you are Indian origin, unfortunately for you.
 
Oh lord.

Are you a British citizen?

Trust me no RSS sanghi Is capable of giving me nightmares unless I was living in India then as a minority I should be worried about my safety and well being.

But enough with your false bravado and you letting us experience your worrier skills, that is keyboard worrier, answer this question? Are you a British citizen?

And if not then you thought you should defend Indians in Britain for being exposed as racist just because ?

Racist? Lol. British Indians are racist?Why?

You are having RSS nightmares, poor you. All the time obsessed with them.
 
Racist? Lol. British Indians are racist?Why?

You are having RSS nightmares, poor you. All the time obsessed with them.

RSS supporters and members are if one were to read their manifesto.

Now please answer are you a British citizen? and if you are not then what give you any right to speak for British election? are you being hypocrite.

Like I have said, if i was living in India then I'd be scared of them as minority, plenty of evidence exist that shows how brutal, ruthless, backward, ignorant and hateful organisation RSS is.

ARE YOU A BRITISH CITIZEN?

Find it quite funny that RSS member telling British how their laws work. lol
 
To summarize, a Hindutva terrorist cell has been identified in the UK.

Now what should be interesting is how Priti Patel, the Home Secretary, will deal with this.

She would probably end up getting RSS tattooed on her forehead and would be sitting amongst them in the front row.
 
RSS supporters and members are if one were to read their manifesto.

Now please answer are you a British citizen? and if you are not then what give you any right to speak for British election? are you being hypocrite.

Like I have said, if i was living in India then I'd be scared of them as minority, plenty of evidence exist that shows how brutal, ruthless, backward, ignorant and hateful organisation RSS is.

ARE YOU A BRITISH CITIZEN?

Find it quite funny that RSS member telling British how their laws work. lol

What RSS? I find no mention of RSS in the OP.

You are hallucinating now. RsS had badly affected you.

What right have pakistanis to have so many threads on India on PP?

Its funny pakistanis trying to tell Indian origin people what they should do.
 
This is not pakistan, where people are put into jail simply because they do not agree with views of the establishment.

The bjp has not said a word. Lol.

Keep hoping.

You are you being thick. He’s quoted as saying that BJP is directing this. Secondly, whilst a link has not yet been established in terms of funding, interference has clearly been established. As an example, go to the UK’s government pages and look up the Charity Commission. It has policy pages on what charities can and can’t do. One of them is to campaign on behalf of external groups. The OFBJP has approached Gurdwaras, which are registered charities and has made efforts to get them to vote against Labour.

And where did Pakistan come from. We are talking about the U.K. here. It’s not simply disagreeing with views, it’s directly influencing the electoral process by an external political party. If you don’t think that is a serious issue, then that a serious concern.
 
Indian community coming and trying to vote againist the labour party supported by pak community has given quiet pakistanis on this forum quiet the burn.

It’s not the Indian community. It’s an organisation directly linked to your masters, the BJP.
 
It’s not the Indian community. It’s an organisation directly linked to your masters, the BJP.

My master is my god.

Worry about your masters. Not mine.

Bjp has made no announcement.

If a British citizen says he supports bjp, its his wish.
 
The British government has also admitted to have poor controls in managing foreign interference. They are now looking to tightening up on such activities. A number of pages on the Gov.UK website on this. This particular issue isn’t just a concern amongst British Pakistanis simply because it’s being discussed on a Pakistani forum but non Pakistani Brits as well. Concerns have been raised by the U.K. charity commission and Sky news has carried out an investigation on it as well. This is a deeply troubling issue. Why should the British electorate allow such an activity to be carried out by foreign political parties, whether they are Indian or Russian, etc.
 
I remember encountering these **** on my university campus. They were trying to pass themselves off as a legitimate charity. But I did some research and made a complaint. They were not seen again.

If you see these saffron terrorists campaiging I would suggest you confront them legally and make sure that the people they are campaigning for are made aware of their activities..

Oh I intend to!

These Saffron Terrorists must be held to account. Their leader, Narendra Modi, has been banned from entering the UK before, and should be again.

I am betting the Hinduja brothers are funding Saffron terror in the UK!
 
My master is my god.

Worry about your masters. Not mine.

Bjp has made no announcement.

If a British citizen says he supports bjp, its his wish.

Your master is the BJP since you keep defending it. Don’t forget to collect your cheque from them tonight as it’s a Friday. And this British citizen as the President of the OFBJP has stated that this activity is being directed by the BJP.

I on the other hand don’t have a human master. I’m not like you, a nationalist. I don’t believe in loyalty to a country. My loyalty only goes as far as being a good citizen and paying my dues in return for my rights and services. If Pakistan or the U.K. or India behaves inappropriately I will call it out.
 
Conservative s are a Indian political party?

They are BJP supporters so are campaigning for a party which is most supportive of the BJP. British citizens should not campaign for the benefit of another party from another nation.

But just look at some photos, they look old, tired and about to hit the floor. Indians in the UK are not happy with the wattsap msgs, so this could backfire.
 
They are BJP supporters so are campaigning for a party which is most supportive of the BJP. British citizens should not campaign for the benefit of another party from another nation.

But just look at some photos, they look old, tired and about to hit the floor. Indians in the UK are not happy with the wattsap msgs, so this could backfire.

The electoral commision says its nothing wrong unless there is a financial link.

Lol. Put random photo of 50 ppl and claim anything.
 
The British government has also admitted to have poor controls in managing foreign interference. They are now looking to tightening up on such activities. A number of pages on the Gov.UK website on this. This particular issue isn’t just a concern amongst British Pakistanis simply because it’s being discussed on a Pakistani forum but non Pakistani Brits as well. Concerns have been raised by the U.K. charity commission and Sky news has carried out an investigation on it as well. This is a deeply troubling issue. Why should the British electorate allow such an activity to be carried out by foreign political parties, whether they are Indian or Russian, etc.

Why are brit pakistanis carrying out the propoganda of pakistan on Kashmir in UK? Or are they exwmpt?

So are they going to de franchise 1.6mn voters of Indian origin?
 
The electoral commision says its nothing wrong unless there is a financial link.

Lol. Put random photo of 50 ppl and claim anything.

Have they invesitaged it fully?

NCHT claimed to be charity but were breaking the charity commision rules so were forced to withdraw statements, lets see what happens this with moody bunch.

It;s not a random photo, it was taken from their own webiste. Look at the state of them lol
 
Oh I intend to!

These Saffron Terrorists must be held to account. Their leader, Narendra Modi, has been banned from entering the UK before, and should be again.

I am betting the Hinduja brothers are funding Saffron terror in the UK!

Hinduja are Congress donors so much so that they were named in Bofors scandal.
 
Why are brit pakistanis carrying out the propoganda of pakistan on Kashmir in UK? Or are they exwmpt?

So are they going to de franchise 1.6mn voters of Indian origin?

The conclusions you jump to are ridiculous. How many times do I have to say this....this isn’t the whole Indian community campaigning. It’s a group directly linked to your masters and operating on their orders.

How is a Pakistani foreign political party influencing a U.K. election against a specific U.K. political party. Please provide evidence of that taking place. Anything else is just rubbish. If a Pakistani or an Indian or a Chinese for that matter wants to influence UK policy that’s a separate issue, but to influence votes against a major political party is very different and far more serious. Ideally no foreigner should influence British policy.
 
The electoral commision says its nothing wrong unless there is a financial link.

Lol. Put random photo of 50 ppl and claim anything.

Since when has the electoral commission has said there is nothing wrong. All they have said is their policy line on funding. It is still early days and to be seen if they investigate and the outcome to that if they do. Labour MPs have raised the issue of foreign interference and the electoral commission will decide on the matter.
 
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