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India’s opposition parties to jointly contest 2024 elections against Modi.

The 28 opposition parties decide to work out seat-sharing arrangements as they aim to stop the ruling BJP party’s third straight win.

More than two dozen opposition parties in India have decided to jointly contest the 2024 national elections against Prime Minister Narendra Modi as they aim to prevent the ruling Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party’s (BJP’s) third straight victory.

The 28-party bloc, called the Indian National Developmental Inclusive Alliance (INDIA), on Friday announced that it will work out seat-sharing arrangements in different states to avoid splitting votes in favour of Modi’s party.

“We, the INDIA parties, hereby resolve to contest the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections together as far as possible,” a statement from the bloc read.

“Seat-sharing arrangements in different states will be initiated immediately and concluded at the earliest in a collaborative spirit of give-and-take.”

India’s national elections are scheduled to be held around May.

‘Stand together’
Indian National Congress party leaders Sonia Gandhi and Rahul Gandhi joined other key opposition leaders – including Sharad Pawar, Arvind Kejriwal, Sitaram Yechury and Lalu Prasad Yadav – at a two-day meeting in Mumbai, India’s financial and entertainment capital.

Their goal was to set up a direct fight by putting one contestant against a BJP candidate in each voting district.

The opposition parties formed the alliance in June and are challenging Modi’s party on its economic record, rising unemployment and a host of other domestic problems, including rising anti-Muslim sentiment.

“We will be travelling to different locations to spread the word. The meetings will ensure that those at the centre will lose for sure. It will also ensure the freedom of media as well. We will stand together,” Nitish Kumar, chief minister of Bihar state, said at a news conference after the two-day meeting, according to The Indian Express newspaper .

Mallikarjun Kharge, the Congress party president, said all segments of society, including public intellectuals and journalists, had been at the receiving end of the BJP’s “authoritarian misrule”.

“The communal poison that the BJP and RSS have spread over the last nine years is now seen in hate crimes against innocent train passengers and against innocent school children,” he posted on X, formerly known as Twitter.

The RSS, or Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, is a far-right Hindu nationalist organisation formed in 1925 along the lines of fascist groups in Europe. It aims to create a Hindu-majority state in India.

The RSS is the ideological mentor of the BJP and boasts of having Modi among millions of its members across India.

‘Electoral autocracy’:

Sambit Patra a BJP spokesman, slammed the opposition parties’ meeting and said their alliance was only for pretend unity and they will end up fighting badly with each other during the 2024 elections.

Lalu Yadav, a former Bihar state chief minister, complained that the opposition leaders have been the targets of raids and investigations by federal agencies controlled by the Modi government.

More than a dozen of these instances have led to defections of opposition leaders to the BJP, which is sometimes followed by dropped charges or pressure otherwise being eased. The BJP denies its involvement in the cases.

Modi’s rule has coincided with the economy recovering after the COVID-19 epidemic, rising unemployment, attacks by Hindu nationalists against minorities and a shrinking space for dissent.

A Swedish university project found that India has become an “electoral autocracy” as press freedom has deteriorated with the country slipping from 150 last year to 161 in this year’s rankings of 180 countries on the World Press Freedom Index of Reporters Without Borders.

Political analysts have also pointed out the lack of a level playing field in electoral politics as the BJP has received three times more funding than its rival parties, according to a report by the Association for Democratic Reforms.

Modi has been accused of passing anti-Muslim legislation and implementing anti-Muslim policies.

These include ending the semi-autonomy of Indian-administered Kashmir, India’s only Muslim-majority region, in 2019 and a law on citizenship that the United Nations human rights office described as “fundamentally discriminatory” for excluding Muslim migrants.

Nevertheless, analysts said the opposition effort to oust Modi will be a difficult task. He is by far India’s most popular leader, and his party directly controls 10 of India’s 28 states, is in coalition in four other states and has more than 55 per cent of the 543 seats in parliament’s lower house.

Modi became prime minister in 2014 and won a second term for his party in 2019 with an easy victory against a splintered opposition.

“The stage of INDIA represents 60 per cent of the population, and if we unite in an efficient way, it is impossible for the BJP to win,” Rahul Gandhi, a strident critic of Modi, said on Friday.

 
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its going to be tough for Mr Modi if its really happening. Let's see if Mode once again initiates an anti-Pakistan campaign in order to achieve his political objectives.
 
its going to be tough for Mr Modi if its really happening. Let's see if Mode once again initiates an anti-Pakistan campaign in order to achieve his political objectives.

Who said it will be tough?

All surveys say Modi will return.
 
its going to be tough for Mr Modi if its really happening. Let's see if Mode once again initiates an anti-Pakistan campaign in order to achieve his political objectives.
That's how feku has won all his elections, on anti Muslim and anti Pakistan plank.

Without these 2, he is a nobody.
 
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See the sanghis hate with India now that the opposition has assigned name India to their alliance.

lol, feku is so desperate for power.

These fascists' have absolutely pummeled the idea of India.
 
And just like her predecessor, present incumbent is a total stooge of the party which catapulted her to her present position.
 
This is nothing other than old wine in new bottle. Earlier it was called UPA now with a few more parties like Sivasena and AAP its called I.N.D.I.A. AAP came into politics with teh single point agenda of corruption eradication and made serious allegations aginst Congress and now they have joined hands with Congress. Shivasena is a hindu right wing party that is infamous for digging up cricket pitches before Pakistan matches and now taht they fell out with BJP they have been certified as secular by Congress. On one hand DMK says hinduism needs to be eradicated while Shivsena claims to be stauchly hindu.

There is no cohesion whatsoever and this sllaince has been stiched together with only the single point agenda of keeping BJP away from power. Moreover AAP and Congress are bitter rivals in Punjab and Delhi. TMC and Congress again literally kill each other in West Bengal. There is no common ideology that drives these parties. Already AAP and Congress are fighting regarding seat sharing in Delhi. It will be an uphill task as 2024 elections are less than 8 months from now.
 
This is nothing other than old wine in new bottle. Earlier it was called UPA now with a few more parties like Sivasena and AAP its called I.N.D.I.A. AAP came into politics with teh single point agenda of corruption eradication and made serious allegations aginst Congress and now they have joined hands with Congress. Shivasena is a hindu right wing party that is infamous for digging up cricket pitches before Pakistan matches and now taht they fell out with BJP they have been certified as secular by Congress. On one hand DMK says hinduism needs to be eradicated while Shivsena claims to be stauchly hindu.

There is no cohesion whatsoever and this sllaince has been stiched together with only the single point agenda of keeping BJP away from power. Moreover AAP and Congress are bitter rivals in Punjab and Delhi. TMC and Congress again literally kill each other in West Bengal. There is no common ideology that drives these parties. Already AAP and Congress are fighting regarding seat sharing in Delhi. It will be an uphill task as 2024 elections are less than 8 months from now.

The alliance has little value in most states.

They are just a group of desperate parties most of whom are out of power.
 
This is nothing other than old wine in new bottle. Earlier it was called UPA now with a few more parties like Sivasena and AAP its called I.N.D.I.A. AAP came into politics with teh single point agenda of corruption eradication and made serious allegations aginst Congress and now they have joined hands with Congress. Shivasena is a hindu right wing party that is infamous for digging up cricket pitches before Pakistan matches and now taht they fell out with BJP they have been certified as secular by Congress. On one hand DMK says hinduism needs to be eradicated while Shivsena claims to be stauchly hindu.

There is no cohesion whatsoever and this sllaince has been stiched together with only the single point agenda of keeping BJP away from power. Moreover AAP and Congress are bitter rivals in Punjab and Delhi. TMC and Congress again literally kill each other in West Bengal. There is no common ideology that drives these parties. Already AAP and Congress are fighting regarding seat sharing in Delhi. It will be an uphill task as 2024 elections are less than 8 months from now.
Would you happen to know what caused the rift between Sivsena and the BJP? I thought they were two sides of the same coin?
 
Would you happen to know what caused the rift between Sivsena and the BJP? I thought they were two sides of the same coin?
Shivasena wanted power sharing in Maharashtra i.e., the chief ministyer will be from SS for 2.5 years and from BJP for 2.5 years. But BJP didn't agree had they had got almost twice the number of seats as the SS. This resulted in SS joining hands with "secular" parties NCP and Congress who immediately forgot Shivsena too was a right wing party just so that they could keep the BJP away. This bitter split between SS and BJP furthered soured when BJP engineered a split in SS and brought the SS-NCP-Congress government and formed a government with the breakway faction which by the is now the actual SS after going to court.

Ironically the BJP which split as SS wanted the chief minister for half the period, now placed a shivasena chief minister (Eknath Shinde who heads the breakaway faction). BJP did this engineering to weaken Uddhav Thackarey and thereby his Shivasena faction.
 
Shivasena wanted power sharing in Maharashtra i.e., the chief ministyer will be from SS for 2.5 years and from BJP for 2.5 years. But BJP didn't agree had they had got almost twice the number of seats as the SS. This resulted in SS joining hands with "secular" parties NCP and Congress who immediately forgot Shivsena too was a right wing party just so that they could keep the BJP away. This bitter split between SS and BJP furthered soured when BJP engineered a split in SS and brought the SS-NCP-Congress government and formed a government with the breakway faction which by the is now the actual SS after going to court.

Ironically the BJP which split as SS wanted the chief minister for half the period, now placed a shivasena chief minister (Eknath Shinde who heads the breakaway faction). BJP did this engineering to weaken Uddhav Thackarey and thereby his Shivasena faction.
Well anything that rids us of the shivsena is a good thing.
 
Absolutely hilarious how desperate these opposition parties are getting. 26 parties...all with different ideologies, parties that are fighting with each other in state elections are coming together forming an alliance just bcoz they cannot beat Modi alone. We are being told by posters like @pillionrider that Rahul Gandhi's image has changed after Bharat Jodo yatra and how BJPs grip is losing and how people will vote for him next time etc etc. What happen now? Come and fight Modi one on one if got guts. They are well aware people of India will NEVER vote for a clown prince whose IQ is not greater than a 10th pass. So doing this khichdi alliance somehow to stop BJP and then push this nepo kid Gandhi as PM.

Look this alliance will NEVER work and there are multiple reasons behind it. Yes it did work back in the day in 1983 elections when all party came together to topple Indira Gandhi govt. But there was an agenda behind it...emergency, JP movement, treatment of Sikhs etc etc. Same happened during Rajiv Gandhi govt when parties came together against him bounded by a common agenda. There is no common agenda for this alliance at all apart from remove Modi. Ofcourse people are not stupid enough to vote for them.

It is an alliance of opportunism. Nitish Kumar was with Laalo's party for 2015 Bihar election and then ditched him, joined BJP to become CM. Then in 2020 Bihar election stayed with BJP bcoz he wanted to remain as CM as he knew he alone can't beat Tejaswi Yadav. Now same Nitish is joining Tejaswi, Laloo etc in this alliance bcoz he wants to become PM. If this is not opportunism, what is??

TMC, Left and Congress fight like cats and dogs in Bengal.

TMC and AAP fights in Goa where TMC minister even said on record he wants to slap Kejriwal.

AAP and Congress fights in Punjab.

Less said about Shiv Sena, whose entire existence is due to Hindutva by late Balasaheb Thakre, the better.

But somehow they want to forget everything, come together, forge an alliance and expect people of India votes for them.

These guys even had the audacity to waste tax payers money and call for No Vote confidence motion on a govt sitting on 350+ seats. Aparently they wanted PM to speak on Manipur when home minister repeatedly asked to have a detailed discussion about Manipur in the house. They thought they will corner Modi based on this motion. What happened? Rahul Gandhi's speech turned out to be a disaster which only went onto prove there has been 0 improvement in him, Amit Shah's 2 hours speech became the showstopper. PM came on final day, trolled the opposition for 90 mins, then when they left discussed about Manipur. Hahahahaha :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

There is ONLY and ONLY 1 party in India who has stuck to their ideology since its inception.

There is ONLY and ONLY 1 man who works tirelessly and selflessly for the betterment of India.

There is ONLY and ONLY 1 alliance who has remain intact.

Kitne bhi allaince bana lo...aayega to??

Repeat with me...AAYEGA TO??

:kp
 
Would you happen to know what caused the rift between Sivsena and the BJP? I thought they were two sides of the same coin?
Its myth that they were hand in hand. Shivasena is far right than BJP and they are also very vocal about Maratha rights. BJP is more national party and draws its support from Hindi heartland. Shivasena like all regional parties are against Hindi imposition. Even in the past there were lots of murmurs about the rift between them. there were numerous clashes between their supporters even a decade back. I worked a lot campaigning for BJP in Karnataka border areas and have met lot of local marathi leaders from both BJP and Shivasena. Their alliance was more due to their need as in early days both were untouchable for any other parties due to their perceved extreme views. So as BJP got bigger, they maintained a big brother attitude and distanced themselves from too extreme views from Shivasena. Ideologically they are moving away from each other. Hence the results.
 
Absolutely hilarious how desperate these opposition parties are getting. 26 parties...all with different ideologies, parties that are fighting with each other in state elections are coming together forming an alliance just bcoz they cannot beat Modi alone. We are being told by posters like @pillionrider that Rahul Gandhi's image has changed after Bharat Jodo yatra and how BJPs grip is losing and how people will vote for him next time etc etc. What happen now? Come and fight Modi one on one if got guts. They are well aware people of India will NEVER vote for a clown prince whose IQ is not greater than a 10th pass. So doing this khichdi alliance somehow to stop BJP and then push this nepo kid Gandhi as PM.

Look this alliance will NEVER work and there are multiple reasons behind it. Yes it did work back in the day in 1983 elections when all party came together to topple Indira Gandhi govt. But there was an agenda behind it...emergency, JP movement, treatment of Sikhs etc etc. Same happened during Rajiv Gandhi govt when parties came together against him bounded by a common agenda. There is no common agenda for this alliance at all apart from remove Modi. Ofcourse people are not stupid enough to vote for them.

It is an alliance of opportunism. Nitish Kumar was with Laalo's party for 2015 Bihar election and then ditched him, joined BJP to become CM. Then in 2020 Bihar election stayed with BJP bcoz he wanted to remain as CM as he knew he alone can't beat Tejaswi Yadav. Now same Nitish is joining Tejaswi, Laloo etc in this alliance bcoz he wants to become PM. If this is not opportunism, what is??

TMC, Left and Congress fight like cats and dogs in Bengal.

TMC and AAP fights in Goa where TMC minister even said on record he wants to slap Kejriwal.

AAP and Congress fights in Punjab.

Less said about Shiv Sena, whose entire existence is due to Hindutva by late Balasaheb Thakre, the better.

But somehow they want to forget everything, come together, forge an alliance and expect people of India votes for them.

These guys even had the audacity to waste tax payers money and call for No Vote confidence motion on a govt sitting on 350+ seats. Aparently they wanted PM to speak on Manipur when home minister repeatedly asked to have a detailed discussion about Manipur in the house. They thought they will corner Modi based on this motion. What happened? Rahul Gandhi's speech turned out to be a disaster which only went onto prove there has been 0 improvement in him, Amit Shah's 2 hours speech became the showstopper. PM came on final day, trolled the opposition for 90 mins, then when they left discussed about Manipur. Hahahahaha :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

There is ONLY and ONLY 1 party in India who has stuck to their ideology since its inception.

There is ONLY and ONLY 1 man who works tirelessly and selflessly for the betterment of India.

There is ONLY and ONLY 1 alliance who has remain intact.

Kitne bhi allaince bana lo...aayega to??

Repeat with me...AAYEGA TO??

:kp
I am a big supporter of BJP and Modi, but bigger supporter of having a strong democracy in India. I want to see strong opposition parties who hold government accountable. Even with that lenient attitude I would never support congress as long as they have Rahul. Unless they move away from their family dynastic politics very few people will support them.
 
I am a big supporter of BJP and Modi, but bigger supporter of having a strong democracy in India. I want to see strong opposition parties who hold government accountable. Even with that lenient attitude I would never support congress as long as they have Rahul. Unless they move away from their family dynastic politics very few people will support them.
There is enough democracy...thanks. Opposing everything for the sake of opposing is not a virtue of democracy. And if it is, that need to change.
 
There is enough democracy...thanks. Opposing everything for the sake of opposing is not a virtue of democracy. And if it is, that need to change.

You don't believe in democracy, that is pretty obvious from your posts. Stop pretending otherwise.
 
It is not about Modi or BJP anymore.

After the statements of Udhyanidhi Stalin and Priyank Kharge, Its about our Dharma Now.
 
There is enough democracy...thanks. Opposing everything for the sake of opposing is not a virtue of democracy. And if it is, that need to change.
its not opposing for the sake of opposing. you always need good guard rails in any strong institution. Opposition parties play that role in a democracy.
 
It is not about Modi or BJP anymore.

After the statements of Udhyanidhi Stalin and Priyank Kharge, Its about our Dharma Now.
No Hindu should vote for this alliance after the statement of Stalin and Kharge.

Now A.Raja has compared Sanatan Dharam with HIV


All the usual pretenders here who don't take a minute to attack Modi is maintaining pedestrian distance from even condemning these statements by these urban naxal fools.

Bharat will teach them a lesson on 2024 again.
 
Has this person been arrested yet by the UP Police for threatening to behead an Indian citizen ? In any other cizvilized democracy, he would be in jail.

Guess you will not be touching this?

 
Guess you will not be touching this?


Has Raja put a bounty on someone's head like the godman above ?
 
Has Raja put a bounty on someone's head like the godman above ?
Yeah keep on abusing the majority religion and expect no word from anyone out of those many crores of people.

There party have corrupt leaders to the core with contradictions.everyone have 3 to 4 wife's and no police cases. Infact raja is jailed for 2g scam.Their erstwhile leader abused more but he was a trustee to a temple and donated too.
 
Has Raja put a bounty on someone's head like the godman above ?
You are not able to answer a straight question that is being asked to you. Do you support the statement of Stalin or Raja? I thought you are better than this.
 
You are not able to answer a straight question that is being asked to you. Do you support the statement of Stalin or Raja? I thought you are better than this.

I don't care about what they said. BJP wallahs and leaders say so many stupid & silly things that I don't like. It doesn't mean I should threaten to murder them.
 
You're a blindly loyal bhakt that threatens violence on people with opinions. No point replying to your posts anymore.
You are not replying to my posts NOT bcoz I am a loyal bhakt but bcoz you don't have a response.

All that has been asked of you, do you agree with the statements made by a sitting CMs son where he compared Hindusim with Malaria & HIV. Do you agree with him when he says Sanatan Dharma should be eradicated?

Instead of answering, all you are doing is whataboutery and going in circles like a jalebi. And then you want people to take you seriously that you are a true liberal and believe in democracy. Its okay, you can say "Yes I agree with him"....no one will judge you.

We all know, meaning of liberalism for you guys is anti hinduism. Say it openly man.
 
You are not replying to my posts NOT bcoz I am a loyal bhakt but bcoz you don't have a response.

All that has been asked of you, do you agree with the statements made by a sitting CMs son where he compared Hindusim with Malaria & HIV. Do you agree with him when he says Sanatan Dharma should be eradicated?

Instead of answering, all you are doing is whataboutery and going in circles like a jalebi. And then you want people to take you seriously that you are a true liberal and believe in democracy. Its okay, you can say "Yes I agree with him"....no one will judge you.

We all know, meaning of liberalism for you guys is anti hinduism. Say it openly man.
This is the behavior I get from our other fellow poster MP2011 also.

Ask him if he is OK with having Raul Puppu as the PM of India and he will not give you a straight answer, he will wee and curl his way out of answering by saying things like this: 'Oh if feku can be a PM, I am sure Puppu can also'.

That is not the question I asked, I asked are you, as in are you personally OK with our diaper pooper as the PM of India, but our boy MP2011 so far has not answered the question.

Kind of funny that even anti Modi MP2011 is not brave enough to picture diapers as the Indian PM lol

:uakmal
 
You are not replying to my posts NOT bcoz I am a loyal bhakt but bcoz you don't have a response.

All that has been asked of you, do you agree with the statements made by a sitting CMs son where he compared Hindusim with Malaria & HIV. Do you agree with him when he says Sanatan Dharma should be eradicated?

Instead of answering, all you are doing is whataboutery and going in circles like a jalebi. And then you want people to take you seriously that you are a true liberal and believe in democracy. Its okay, you can say "Yes I agree with him"....no one will judge you.

We all know, meaning of liberalism for you guys is anti hinduism. Say it openly man.
Isn’t RSS/Hindutva doing the same to minorities? There are countless RSS/Hindutva political leaders who spew hate and bigotry on regular basis against minorities India?

Liberalism is anti hate against minorities, anti far right religious extremists, and should be anti RSS and anti Hindutva NOT anti Hinduism, don’t confuse :)
 
Instead of answering, all you are doing is whataboutery and going in circles like a jalebi. And then you want people to take you seriously that you are a true liberal and believe in democracy. Its okay, you can say "Yes I agree with him"....no one will judge you.

We all know, meaning of liberalism for you guys is anti hinduism. Say it openly man.

Your reading comprehension skills are zero.

I said quite clearly in post #32 that I don't care what Stalin said. His banal political jabs about religion don't interest me or offend me. What part of that don't you understand ?

What I do care about is someone threatening violence and murder for these comments. This is something we see in some Islamic countries where blasphemy is a big problem . And now because of people like you, it's becoming commonplace in India. A sad state of affairs.
 
This is the behavior I get from our other fellow poster MP2011 also.

Ask him if he is OK with having Raul Puppu as the PM of India and he will not give you a straight answer, he will wee and curl his way out of answering by saying things like this: 'Oh if feku can be a PM, I am sure Puppu can also'.

That is not the question I asked, I asked are you, as in are you personally OK with our diaper pooper as the PM of India, but our boy MP2011 so far has not answered the question.

Kind of funny that even anti Modi MP2011 is not brave enough to picture diapers as the Indian PM lol

:uakmal


You've never struck me as someone who's insecure about his religion. Thanks for outting yourself. :)
 
You've never struck me as someone who's insecure about his religion. Thanks for outting yourself. :)
I am not insecure about my beliefs, I am Hindu, I have openly said that for years :)

Just answer the question what Rajdeep is asking, same for my boy MP2011 on the question about diapers being the PM of India.

Issue here is you that you and MP2011 keep running away and beating around the bush, it seems when you get cornered you use deflecting tactics because you can't have your agenda look silly.

No harsh feelings buddy :apology
 
Your reading comprehension skills are zero.

I said quite clearly in post #32 that I don't care what Stalin said. His banal political jabs about religion don't interest me or offend me. What part of that don't you understand ?

So you don't care that Stalin (Cool Dravidian name lol) said Santana Dharama should be eradicated, OK and I assume if Stalin decide to proceed and put his argument in practice you are fine with it then.
What I do care about is someone threatening violence and murder for these comments. This is something we see in some Islamic countries where blasphemy is a big problem . And now because of people like you, it's becoming commonplace in India. A sad state of affairs.
So your care factor is for the hypothetical scenario of if there is backlash to Stalin's comments. ;) a little oxymoron there don't you think ? 2 threats of violence were issued but you only have an issue with 1

I am a Hindu, said that for years, but that don't mean I will tell you to come to my religion or or whether my religion is the one and only truth or blackmail others saying its hell if you don't follow Hinduism, if that means I am insecure about my faith, then so be it :apology
 
It is not about Modi or BJP anymore.

After the statements of Udhyanidhi Stalin and Priyank Kharge, Its about our Dharma Now.
:mw1

You've been fighting this war for your Dharma, as you now have learnt to call it, for almost a decade now under the able leadership of Modiji. How much more time do you need?

yeah, exactly. If anyone says anything similar about Islam or Christianity heads will literally rool.
The West which was predominantly Christian have evolved out of their religion and hardly care about it anymore. They offer a space for devout Christians but none of them allow nutjobs to roam around freely, the way Modi has been an enabler. Even South America which you'd think is the last bastion of Christianity - a few years back there was a pretty controversial comedy show on Brazilian Netflix questioning Jesus Christ's sexuality and apart from some online protests, nothing came of it. The show went on. That's what you call an evolved society. India which used to be the greatest source of free thinkers at one point, can't even compete with Brazil now. What a comedown.

That said, on the point here which has given some BJP fans another excuse to outrage - I actually believe that these two DMK guys should have been more careful with their words. They could have said, caste system is like a disease (which was the actual point Stalin was trying to make). But by saying Sanatan Dharma (which has been appropriated by the BJP to nowadays = Hinduism) is a disease, they made a mistake.

Personally, I think all organized religion that is not personal, is a disease because they infect a normal person and make them capable of doing the worst things possible. But that's just my view and I am an internet nobody. However, when you are a public figure and a politician, you should be careful with your words. Even someone like me, whose only connection with politics is that I might know a few people from different parties and organizations - even then, I would not for example order beef at a restaurant if a friend of mine who is truly distressed by the sight of beef is sitting with me. It's just basic courtesy and decency. When you're a public figure, your responsibility to be courteous is manifold.
 
It is very clear from this thread alone that Modi/RSS supporters and apologists are fearful.

If the BJP brigade were that confident of thier party dominance then why do they weep and whimper over the news of a coalition?

Always the insecure bunch.
 
:mw1

You've been fighting this war for your Dharma, as you now have learnt to call it, for almost a decade now under the able leadership of Modiji. How much more time do you need?


The West which was predominantly Christian have evolved out of their religion and hardly care about it anymore. They offer a space for devout Christians but none of them allow nutjobs to roam around freely, the way Modi has been an enabler. Even South America which you'd think is the last bastion of Christianity - a few years back there was a pretty controversial comedy show on Brazilian Netflix questioning Jesus Christ's sexuality and apart from some online protests, nothing came of it. The show went on. That's what you call an evolved society. India which used to be the greatest source of free thinkers at one point, can't even compete with Brazil now. What a comedown.

That said, on the point here which has given some BJP fans another excuse to outrage - I actually believe that these two DMK guys should have been more careful with their words. They could have said, caste system is like a disease (which was the actual point Stalin was trying to make). But by saying Sanatan Dharma (which has been appropriated by the BJP to nowadays = Hinduism) is a disease, they made a mistake.

Personally, I think all organized religion that is not personal, is a disease because they infect a normal person and make them capable of doing the worst things possible. But that's just my view and I am an internet nobody. However, when you are a public figure and a politician, you should be careful with your words. Even someone like me, whose only connection with politics is that I might know a few people from different parties and organizations - even then, I would not for example order beef at a restaurant if a friend of mine who is truly distressed by the sight of beef is sitting with me. It's just basic courtesy and decency. When you're a public figure, your responsibility to be courteous is manifold.

It will take as much time as it should take and now that the real agenda is out it will only strengthen the fight.

Make no mistake, if Stalin and Raja are not taken to task by the law, there will be huge repercussions. Repercussions that every political party including the BJP will have to face.

What happened in the West has no significance here, I don't know why you are talking about them.
 
Ofcourse you don't care if someone is calling for eradication of a billion plus people and their religion. It doesn't fit your agenda.

You need to read IPC 295A. It has existed since independence.
He would have cared if those comments were directed at Islam and Muslims. He would have been on rampage then. But since they were about Hinduism and Hindus, he can’t be bothered.
 
I doubt this alliance can win. India has always been a Hindu nationalist state, however BJP has convinced the majority of Hindus that they are victims, and that hindu khatre mein hai. Not to mention minorities especially Muslims are being appeased.
 
I doubt this alliance can win. India has always been a Hindu nationalist state, however BJP has convinced the majority of Hindus that they are victims, and that hindu khatre mein hai. Not to mention minorities especially Muslims are being appeased.
That part is not a propaganda but the truth. Congress has always kept this policy. In fact it was so blatant, even a blind man could see it.

But Hindu khatre mein nahin hain, that’s BS.
 
That part is not a propaganda but the truth. Congress has always kept this policy. In fact it was so blatant, even a blind man could see it.

But Hindu khatre mein nahin hain, that’s BS.
Manmohan saying Muslims have first claim on resources is the blatant appeasement and secular violation. What about all other minorities who contributed to the nation.Congress in a way raised the Bjp .
 
That part is not a propaganda but the truth. Congress has always kept this policy. In fact it was so blatant, even a blind man could see it.

But Hindu khatre mein nahin hain, that’s BS.
Hindu liberals have used Indian Muslims as a vote bank. Similar to how White liberals use Blacks as a votebank in the US.

However what have Muslims gotten? They are underrepresented in government, civil service, universities, jobs. They are poorer than Hindus, even low caste ones. Almost every symbol of India reflects pre Islamic heritage. They are openly insulted by politicians. I dont understand what they have gotten to be considered appeased.


Haj Subsdiy? That was for Air India not Muslims.

Muslim personal laws? This has no benefits for Muslims. Nehru did a very good thing for Hindus by reforming Hindu personal laws. The sanghis opposed these reforms, and the only reason they pretend to support it now is because villfying Muslims get them votes. And congress does not want to lose Muslim vote so they also oppose it. No benefit for Muslims.

Hindu temples controlled by govt but mosques are not. This is because mandirs have money, and mosques dont.
 
Manmohan saying Muslims have first claim on resources is the blatant appeasement and secular violation. What about all other minorities who contributed to the nation.Congress in a way raised the Bjp .
they have first right on resources yet are poorer than Hindus? Mamoahn Singh like other Congress politicians use Muslims as a vote bank.

only benefit Muslims get for voting for Congress is that BJP will make there life worse.
 
That part is not a propaganda but the truth. Congress has always kept this policy. In fact it was so blatant, even a blind man could see it.

But Hindu khatre mein nahin hain, that’s BS.

The continous statements regarding eliminating Hinduism by various people is the evidence.

They are pushing an agenda that eliminating Sanatan is the only way of promoting equality.

Thing is that caste politics is failing to defeat BJP in most of the country. most Hindus across castes voting for Modi and BJP has resulted in political parties and liberals asking for complete elimination of Hindus.

So Hindu Khatre mein hai isnt BS.
 
The continous statements regarding eliminating Hinduism by various people is the evidence.

They are pushing an agenda that eliminating Sanatan is the only way of promoting equality.

Thing is that caste politics is failing to defeat BJP in most of the country. most Hindus across castes voting for Modi and BJP has resulted in political parties and liberals asking for complete elimination of Hindus.

So Hindu Khatre mein hai isnt BS.
When I said it be BS, I meant that they can’t do no harm to Hindus. At best, they can run their dirty mouths.

Imagine Hindus giving such statements about Islam comparing it to diseases saying it needs to be eliminated. Whole of India and the other Islamic countries would have erupted. Yet according to our neighbours, Hindus are extremists.
 
they have first right on resources yet are poorer than Hindus? Mamoahn Singh like other Congress politicians use Muslims as a vote bank.

only benefit Muslims get for voting for Congress is that BJP will make there life worse.
If it's a secular country, no body should have first claim.
As some one said about appeasement, Congress is having programmatic issue and bjp have genetic issue.

Muslim leaders never bothered about development other than their own family. We should have kalam kind of leader in politics for country sake
 
Your reading comprehension skills are zero.

I said quite clearly in post #32 that I don't care what Stalin said. His banal political jabs about religion don't interest me or offend me. What part of that don't you understand ?

What I do care about is someone threatening violence and murder for these comments. This is something we see in some Islamic countries where blasphemy is a big problem . And now because of people like you, it's becoming commonplace in India. A sad state of affairs.
It is so depressing to see your responses on this thread...honestly not even kidding. You picked up a random story from a leftist rag propaganda website where some nobody somewhere has threatened Stalin and you are going on and on about it but NOT a single statement of condemnation on the actual statement itself given by a sitting CMs son. If you compare someone's religion with Malaria and Aids and asks to eradicate it, that would surely offend someone somewhere and evoke reactions. What are you so surprised about it?

Had this Christian convert Stalin, who probably lives in lala land like some unrealistic crap they show in dodgy Tamil movie, said this about any other religion, his head would actually not be with him by now. As a true liberal you should be condemning the hate speech but rather upsetting that you refused blatantly to even criticize it once. But its okay, entire country knows likes of you and thewire.co.in's of the world who claims to be secular, are the biggest communal people in the world. Modi winning 2 elections in record numbers is not by chance....its you and only people like you are responsible for it. Rahul Gandhi to aise hi badnaam hai.
 
It is so depressing to see your responses on this thread...honestly not even kidding. You picked up a random story from a leftist rag propaganda website where some nobody somewhere has threatened Stalin and you are going on and on about it but NOT a single statement of condemnation on the actual statement itself given by a sitting CMs son. If you compare someone's religion with Malaria and Aids and asks to eradicate it, that would surely offend someone somewhere and evoke reactions. What are you so surprised about it?

Had this Christian convert Stalin, who probably lives in lala land like some unrealistic crap they show in dodgy Tamil movie, said this about any other religion, his head would actually not be with him by now. As a true liberal you should be condemning the hate speech but rather upsetting that you refused blatantly to even criticize it once. But its okay, entire country knows likes of you and thewire.co.in's of the world who claims to be secular, are the biggest communal people in the world. Modi winning 2 elections in record numbers is not by chance....its you and only people like you are responsible for it. Rahul Gandhi to aise hi badnaam hai.
Nupur Sharma is a living example.
 
When I said it be BS, I meant that they can’t do no harm to Hindus. At best, they can run their dirty mouths.

Imagine Hindus giving such statements about Islam comparing it to diseases saying it needs to be eliminated. Whole of India and the other Islamic countries would have erupted. Yet according to our neighbours, Hindus are extremists.

Their intention is to start a violent struggle against Hindus. Attack Hindus, their temples etc and justify it in the name of equality.

Our neighbours are immaterial in this debate.

Look at the so called Indians on this thread who cannot and will not condemd this call for genocide of Hindus.

There is no FIR, no Supreme Court bench sitting and ordering enquiry. No protest in any institution.

Yes BJP will gain massively in political terms from this in most of India.

Despite this why are DMK and Congress doubling down on this? Their intention is clear, attack Hindus, justify it in the name of equality. When Hindus retaliate, call them extremists etc. And increase the attacks.
 
This is the behavior I get from our other fellow poster MP2011 also.

Ask him if he is OK with having Raul Puppu as the PM of India and he will not give you a straight answer, he will wee and curl his way out of answering by saying things like this: 'Oh if feku can be a PM, I am sure Puppu can also'.

That is not the question I asked, I asked are you, as in are you personally OK with our diaper pooper as the PM of India, but our boy MP2011 so far has not answered the question.

Kind of funny that even anti Modi MP2011 is not brave enough to picture diapers as the Indian PM lol

:uakmal
Anyone but feku. Being educated means something.
 
BJP will make there life worse.
Correction: They already have. Not just Muslins though they have made lives worse of Indians in general apart from blind bhakts who may have benefitted from this regime, otherwise what else explains their bling bhakti of feku?
 
Correction: They already have. Not just Muslins though they have made lives worse of Indians in general apart from blind bhakts who may have benefitted from this regime, otherwise what else explains their bling bhakti of feku?
But why does BJP keep winning when they have made lives worst for Indians in general ?

Looking forward to this answer...
 
But why does BJP keep winning when they have made lives worst for Indians in general ?

Looking forward to this answer...
They consistently invest in stoking India-Pakistan tensions before each election, leveraging patriotic sentiments to secure votes.
 
They consistently invest in stoking India-Pakistan tensions before each election, leveraging patriotic sentiments to secure votes.

Lol. Thats what you think.

Pakistan is only one part of the national security BJP talks about.

Number one is economy, then infrastructure and then running a largely corruption free government.

Modi was the first PM to visit pakistan since Vajpayee. Then he realised its futile to try all this dialogues.
 
They consistently invest in stoking India-Pakistan tensions before each election, leveraging patriotic sentiments to secure votes.
Yeah using Pakistan which is broke with no money, bankrupt is the reason why PM Modi keeps winning elections.

When I read some of these posts by Pakistanis, I realize it is not surprising at all why Pakistan is currently in the state it is in, you really have been out of touch with reality for decades..
 
I.N.D.I.A alliance has now banned 14 journalists and won't send any spokesperson of their party on programs hosted by these anchors.

Opposition INDIA bloc has taken a decision to boycott TV news anchors' shows, including Republic Network's Arnab Goswami, Aaj Tak's Sudhir Chaudhary, News18 Hindi's Amish Devgan, TimesNow's Navika Kumar, IndiaToday Group's Gaurav Sawant​


Emergency once again???
 
I.N.D.I.A alliance has now banned 14 journalists and won't send any spokesperson of their party on programs hosted by these anchors.

Opposition INDIA bloc has taken a decision to boycott TV news anchors' shows, including Republic Network's Arnab Goswami, Aaj Tak's Sudhir Chaudhary, News18 Hindi's Amish Devgan, TimesNow's Navika Kumar, IndiaToday Group's Gaurav Sawant​


Emergency once again???
But

The wheel is turning, Wheel is turning...

lol

:LOL:
 
It's the same as when in Pakistan PMLN boycotted ARY and PTI boycotted Geo. Many TV channels represent one political party
 
To beat BJP in upcoming election Congress etc needs a sudden big wave of support. Last time that happened was way back in 1987 when opposition led by VP Singh became talk of the town because of exposing corruption scandal like Bofors , Fairfax. So far i don't see any of such thing. Rahul Gandhi lacks that Charisma to be a true national leader and other leaders are too regional.
I think BJP will win again however their seats would be less than last time, mainly due to anti incurmency factor.
 
I.N.D.I.A alliance has now banned 14 journalists and won't send any spokesperson of their party on programs hosted by these anchors.

Opposition INDIA bloc has taken a decision to boycott TV news anchors' shows, including Republic Network's Arnab Goswami, Aaj Tak's Sudhir Chaudhary, News18 Hindi's Amish Devgan, TimesNow's Navika Kumar, IndiaToday Group's Gaurav Sawant​


Emergency once again???
Well this is probably not a bad thing on second thought, remember when Ammayi Sonya decided to send her son to be interviewed by Arnab:



After this fatal interview Congress was pretty much demolished and may the fruits of the above interview keep giving for many decades to come.

The wheel is turning, wheel is turning, Mahaan for Rahul PM :LOL:
 
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Well done INDIA to shun those scoundrels masquerading as journos when in reality they're just pets of feku.
 
I.N.D.I.A alliance has now banned 14 journalists and won't send any spokesperson of their party on programs hosted by these anchors.

Opposition INDIA bloc has taken a decision to boycott TV news anchors' shows, including Republic Network's Arnab Goswami, Aaj Tak's Sudhir Chaudhary, News18 Hindi's Amish Devgan, TimesNow's Navika Kumar, IndiaToday Group's Gaurav Sawant​


Emergency once again???

Masters of scoring own goals!!
 
To beat BJP in upcoming election Congress etc needs a sudden big wave of support.
lol, you couldn't be more wrong in your hypothesis. Big waves of support don't always win you elections, cue 2004 elections when Vajpayee apparently had it all covered. He was all set to be come our PM, 3rd consecutive time. He even foolishly, allegedly on advice of Pramod Mahajan preponed elections by 5-6 months only to watch himself go into political oblivion post 2004 general elections.
 
Well this is probably not a bad thing on second thought, remember when Ammayi Sonya decided to send her son to be interviewed by Arnab:



After this fatal interview Congress was pretty much demolished and may the fruits of the above interview keep giving for many decades to come.

The wheel is turning, wheel is turning, Mahaan for Rahul PM :LOL:

Yes that interview was juvenile but atleast Rahul made a genuine attempt. He was simply not smart enough to handle those tough questions.

The real damage anyone made to congress was Mani Shankar Iyer. This below video is gold and a total game changer in Indian politics:


 
Yes that interview was juvenile but atleast Rahul made a genuine attempt. He was simply not smart enough to handle those tough questions.
Puppu did make a genuine attempt to make himself look dumb in that interview and he succeeded very well, looking dumb is his specialty afterall. LOL this is the clown that wants to be the Indian PM one day 🤣

Now the scary thing here is that Ammayi Sonya & Puppu signed those secret agreements with China 4 years prior to that fatal Arnab Goswami interview, imagine how much more dumber he would have been at that time when compared to the time he did the interview with Arnab.

No one still to this day knows what agreements were signed between my ammayi sonya, her mentally handicapped son and China.
 

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Look at the so called Indians on this thread who cannot and will not condemd this call for genocide of Hindus.

^ A blatant lie and fabrication from a dishonest sanghi. South Indian politicians don't do genocides. That kind of criminality is a speciality of North Indian/Hindi-heartland leaders. Who better represents that fact than India's PM Modi himself responsible for one of the worst genocides in India in 2001.

Look at the wikipedia page for massacres and genocides in modern India and almost every single one is from the North.

 
lol, you couldn't be more wrong in your hypothesis. Big waves of support don't always win you elections, cue 2004 elections when Vajpayee apparently had it all covered. He was all set to be come our PM, 3rd consecutive time. He even foolishly, allegedly on advice of Pramod Mahajan preponed elections by 5-6 months only to watch himself go into political oblivion post 2004 general elections.
BJP only got 180 seats in 1999 election and needed lots of support to get to 272+ mark. BJP was never the odds on favorite to win 2004 election but was expected to retain similar number of seats in 2004. They got destroyed in UP which damaged their numbers big time , also their alliances struggled to get seats too. Anti incumbency factor plays a role too. I voted for Congress in 2004 as compared to voting for BJP in 99. I prefer to change in vote if opposition seems credible. 2004 election was typical example for a party taking public lightly during election and fell big time.
There is big reason why people in Delhi give National election vote to BJP but same people gives vote to Aam Aadmi when it comes to state election because BJP's state level organization is lazy and incompetent.
 
^ A blatant lie and fabrication from a dishonest sanghi. South Indian politicians don't do genocides. That kind of criminality is a speciality of North Indian/Hindi-heartland leaders. Who better represents that fact than India's PM Modi himself responsible for one of the worst genocides in India in 2001.

Look at the wikipedia page for massacres and genocides in modern India and almost every single one is from the North.


Chal chal.

DMK politicians and Congis are openly asking for elimination of Sanatan Dharma and you are posting Wikipedia links. :))

Crying Modi Modi won't hide the hatred that DMK and Congress has for Hindus.

They will be given a fitting reply.
 
^ A blatant lie and fabrication from a dishonest sanghi. South Indian politicians don't do genocides. That kind of criminality is a speciality of North Indian/Hindi-heartland leaders. Who better represents that fact than India's PM Modi himself responsible for one of the worst genocides in India in 2001.

Look at the wikipedia page for massacres and genocides in modern India and almost every single one is from the North.


Aha...now I am getting the picture. So it is the regional bias that was stopping you from criticizing Uday Nidhi Stalin when he called for elimination of Sanatan Dharma and when A Raja compared it with AIDS.

As I said before, more you open your mouth in this thread...more you are exposing yourself like Stalin. Criticism of Modi & BJP is totally fine but if someone criticize an entire religion and wants it to be eradicated, there is no justification for it. Infact many BJP critics on this forum have also criticized it but you will NOT say a word just bcoz this Charcoal coloured Christian convert Stalin is from South India. Pardon my language but if he can criticize my religion, I have no reason to be respectful towards him.
 
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