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Indian nationalist party BJP supporters to campaign in UK against Labour

This motley crew have tried to convince Labour MPs to stand for the Tory's claiming they are not Indians if they are Labour lol.

Tanmanjeet Singh Deshi and Preet Gill rubbished them. So a failure for this group so far.
 
Failure or not, it should not be allowed and that’s with any country. My biggest concern are the Chinese, the Russians and the Americans interfering in our politics.
 
Failure or not, it should not be allowed and that’s with any country. My biggest concern are the Chinese, the Russians and the Americans interfering in our politics.

Russia have given financial aid to the Tory's. However their aim is different, Russia wants the UK to leave the EU without a deal, so both become distant. They also know Boris and co will sell out the UK, making it a weaker nation in many ways esp the NHS.

This motley crew dont have the same influence esp since the BJP is not liked by many British Indians but I agree they shouldn't be interfering in our elections.
 
Not sure about the first part, i.e. the Russians giving Boris money. I highly doubt it as the Tories would be obliged to declare that and it would be illegal. But agree with the rest.
 
This is disgusting. The Tories are one of the most corrupt parties.
 
The conclusions you jump to are ridiculous. How many times do I have to say this....this isn’t the whole Indian community campaigning. It’s a group directly linked to your masters and operating on their orders.

How is a Pakistani foreign political party influencing a U.K. election against a specific U.K. political party. Please provide evidence of that taking place. Anything else is just rubbish. If a Pakistani or an Indian or a Chinese for that matter wants to influence UK policy that’s a separate issue, but to influence votes against a major political party is very different and far more serious. Ideally no foreigner should influence British policy.

Do you know what the Indian community will do? They didnt come and tell you. Did they?

Indian community members are campaigning within their community to vote for a British party. They are highlighting how a party is againist the community. Whether the entire community listens or ignores is upto them.

Pakistanis thought that their political activities supporting pakistan will go unchallenged, this effort by the indian community to rally together and vote againist the party that supports the pak community has rattled you guys.
 
Pakistanis thought that their political activities supporting pakistan will go unchallenged, this effort by the indian community to rally together and vote againist the party that supports the pak community has rattled you guys.

I have been told that the second largest minority in Britian is Indians ?. If so this could be disastrous for the Labor party..

P.S. It was kind of cute to see Sajid Khan attend a Diwali function recently to get Indian votes though lol..
 
I have been told that the second largest minority in Britian is Indians ?. If so this could be disastrous for the Labor party..

P.S. It was kind of cute to see Sajid Khan attend a Diwali function recently to get Indian votes though lol..

Why do you think the brit paks here are so rattled here.

They vote collectively according to their political motives, thats why labour courted them and supported them over the kashmir issue.

Indian community too voted labour, but they dont rally together to vote for a political cause, but if this groups succeeds in getting the brit indians to rally together and vote against labour it may cause serious loss to the labour party.

Labour shouldn't have poked their noses in this matter. They thought the indian community will not rally to hit back.

Indian origin people are more in numbers and they also have the capability to gather more financial resources for the party they support.
 
Do you know what the Indian community will do? They didnt come and tell you. Did they?

Indian community members are campaigning within their community to vote for a British party. They are highlighting how a party is againist the community. Whether the entire community listens or ignores is upto them.

Pakistanis thought that their political activities supporting pakistan will go unchallenged, this effort by the indian community to rally together and vote againist the party that supports the pak community has rattled you guys.

Get it through your thick brain......the OFBJP does not represent the Indian community in the U.K. I am a British citizen and have lived here my whole life. I know my own community, i.e. the British community. We will not be divided by people like you who have nothing to do with our country and are interfering in our democratic process. There is wide condemnation and concern over what the OFBJP is doing including by British Indians. The Labour Party isn’t some small party full of Pakistani origin British people. You don’t understand our politics so your post is absolutely rubbish. The Labour Party is made up of people from all sorts of backgrounds and those people have raised concerns over this meddling.

The Labour Party is also not against India or the British Indian community. Just because it raised its concerns over Kashmir doesn’t mean they are anti-India. That is absolutely nonsense. They have raised their concern due to the humanitarian issues. Whilst Kashmir is an Indian matter, it was handled terribly by your country through the heavy military presence and the curfews, etc.

No one is rattled. We are concerned about our democratic process being interfered with. A lot of British Indians all always supported Labour and will continue to do so. We have Indian Labour politicians. This campaigning isn’t going to have much influence. If Labour is going to lose, it will be based on their policies and their own campaigning and not because of the British Indian vote.
 
I have been told that the second largest minority in Britian is Indians ?. If so this could be disastrous for the Labor party..

P.S. It was kind of cute to see Sajid Khan attend a Diwali function recently to get Indian votes though lol..

We shall see about that, but a lot of British Indians have raised concerns themselves over a foreign political body interfering in our elections and not every British Indian is a BJP stooge.
 
Why do you think the brit paks here are so rattled here.

They vote collectively according to their political motives, thats why labour courted them and supported them over the kashmir issue.

Indian community too voted labour, but they dont rally together to vote for a political cause, but if this groups succeeds in getting the brit indians to rally together and vote against labour it may cause serious loss to the labour party.

Labour shouldn't have poked their noses in this matter. They thought the indian community will not rally to hit back.

Indian origin people are more in numbers and they also have the capability to gather more financial resources for the party they support.

British Pakistanis do not vote collectively. Your posts on this thread have gone from bad to worse. To generalise a whole community is just ridiculous. British Pakistanis vote across the parties for different reasons and it would be very rare for them to vote because of Pakistan or how it would affect Pakistan. I would say, their voting could be to secure their rights as minorities in the U.K., or for policies such as on health, education, taxes, etc.
 
Hi Mods,

Can we change the title of this thread to BJP to campaign instead of BJP supporters since a direct link has been established from the mouth of the President of the OFBJP.
 
British Indians warn Hindu nationalist party not to meddle in UK elections

“They don’t have to interfere in the politics here,” said Suresh Morjaria, a 67-year-old shopkeeper. “They can do what they want in India. I am happy for them to do what they want with [Indian prime minister Narendra] Modi, but this is a different country.”

The president of Overseas Friends of BJP UK, Kuldeep Singh Shekhawat, boasted to the Times of India that the group had recently invited 300 Indian-origin constituents to a meeting with the Conservative MP Bob Blackman from Harrow East (1,757 majority) and the Tory candidate for Harrow West, the British-Bangladeshi Dr Anwara Ali, who is fighting to overturn a 13,314 Labour majority.

Blackman also hosted a Diwali event – a Hindu festival – in the House of Commons last month, from which Labour MPs were reportedly banned, and which an attendee told the Guardian the event “was all about vote Conservative, and nothing to do with the festival of Diwali”. When the Guardian went to Blackwell’s constituency office to find out if the BJP were canvassing for him, it was met with a “no comment”, and staff did not reply to emails.
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Harrow is an obvious target for the BJP, given that 26.4% of the population in the area are British Indians, according to the 2011 census, second only to Leicester. But none of those the Guardian spoke to said they would cast their vote based on UK policy towards India and all rejected BJP interference.

“It’s wrong,” said 34-year-old hairdresser Kamlesh Nayee. He shook his head when it was suggested the BJP were angry over Labour’s stance on the disputed territory of Kashmir. “Labour is good,” he said. “I got my [British] passport under Labour. They helped me, they understand.”

He was not the only one to cite other issues as being closer to his heart. Jemma, 25, a youth worker who did not wish to give her second name, said: “Education is important. I’ve got a lot of young people [I’m working with] from the EU who are being penalised [by Brexit uncertainty].”

She also worried about the impact of the BJP support group’s WhatsApp messages . “Everyone in my family from the old generation doesn’t understand it and they’re very affected by what they received so I have tried to block them on my mum’s phone.”

Sairah Anwar, 78, originally Kenyan of Indian extraction, is married to a Muslim and said she knows firsthand the tensions. “Most of the people from India or Pakistan they don’t get on with each other,” she said.

But Anwar stressed people should not be encouraged to vote on ethnic or religious lines. “They shouldn’t say that,” she said. “People should think for themselves.” She was still deciding which party to vote for, but like many other British voters, geopolitical considerations like Kashmir were far from her mind. “I was going to go Labour but I don’t like the man [Jeremy Corbyn]”, however, she added: “I also don’t like [the Conservative home secretary] Priti Patel.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...arn-hindu-party-not-to-meddle-in-uk-elections

As I said this crew of people will have little effect in the UK.

They should go and hug Modi in India and move on with their lives. :)
 
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Find it hilarious that RSS member living in India trying to tell British people who were born and brought up in Britain that how British people vote?
 
Get it through your thick brain......the OFBJP does not represent the Indian community in the U.K. I am a British citizen and have lived here my whole life. I know my own community, i.e. the British community. We will not be divided by people like you who have nothing to do with our country and are interfering in our democratic process. There is wide condemnation and concern over what the OFBJP is doing including by British Indians. The Labour Party isn’t some small party full of Pakistani origin British people. You don’t understand our politics so your post is absolutely rubbish. The Labour Party is made up of people from all sorts of backgrounds and those people have raised concerns over this meddling.

The Labour Party is also not against India or the British Indian community. Just because it raised its concerns over Kashmir doesn’t mean they are anti-India. That is absolutely nonsense. They have raised their concern due to the humanitarian issues. Whilst Kashmir is an Indian matter, it was handled terribly by your country through the heavy military presence and the curfews, etc.

No one is rattled. We are concerned about our democratic process being interfered with. A lot of British Indians all always supported Labour and will continue to do so. We have Indian Labour politicians. This campaigning isn’t going to have much influence. If Labour is going to lose, it will be based on their policies and their own campaigning and not because of the British Indian vote.

The Kashmir drama was done by labour to get the Pakistani and muslim votes. Because wherever muslims are in numbers, they vote in blocks.
Good to see some moblisation by Indian community, the thuggery that was allowed by the muslim mayor in London, is what has awoken Indian community.
 
The Kashmir drama was done by labour to get the Pakistani and muslim votes. Because wherever muslims are in numbers, they vote in blocks.
Good to see some moblisation by Indian community, the thuggery that was allowed by the muslim mayor in London, is what has awoken Indian community.
If it is true of British Pakistani, it is also true of Indians (that’s why the Vaz siblings got elected in Leicester).
You’re not the first ignorant poster who has equated at best a couple of thousand extremist BJP members with the greater Indian community of the UK.
That community includes Muslims and Sikhs, who we are led to believe will vote Conservative just because the BJP told them to do so. Indian logic.
 
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The Kashmir drama was done by labour to get the Pakistani and muslim votes. Because wherever muslims are in numbers, they vote in blocks.
Good to see some moblisation by Indian community, the thuggery that was allowed by the muslim mayor in London, is what has awoken Indian community.

Stop chatting rubbish. The U.K. has always been against injustice and this is another example where the Labour Party rightly criticised the Indian government over how Kashmir has been handled.
 
Source- https://www.theguardian.com/politic...licy-after-backlash-by-indian-heritage-voters

Labour has responded to a backlash among voters of Indian heritage in the UK by shifting its stance on the Kashmir dispute and insisting it is a bilateral matter between India and Pakistan in which Labour will not interfere.

The clarification has been made in a letter sent by the Labour party chairman, Ian Lavery, in which he admits an emergency motion on Kashmir passed by Labour at its annual conference had caused offence to some British Indians and India itself.

The motion said there was a humanitarian crisis in the disputed territory and that the people of Kashmir should be given the right of self-determination. It also called for international monitors to be allowed into the region.

The motion has led some Indian groups in the UK to call on their community to vote Conservative.

More than 100 Indian groups wrote to Jeremy Corbyn in protest, and more recently the criticism of Labour has spread to social media. There have also been complaints that only one candidate of Indian heritage has been selected in a safe Labour seat, and none in a target seat.

In his letter Lavery promises “the Labour party will not take a pro-Indian or pro-Pakistan stance on Kashmir”.

The latest controversy follows India’s decision in August to revoke the special status of Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir, bringing it under direct rule from Delhi.

India and Pakistan both claim Kashmir, but control only parts of it.

Since August political activity in Indian-administered Kashmir has been repressed, journalists have been refused free access, and NGOs have reported human rights abuses, claims denied by India.

The former UK national security adviser Mark Lyall Grant has predicted rising extremism in the UK unless the issue is settled.

Lyall Grant told a meeting at the security thinktank Chatham House, organised by strategic advisory firm CTD Advisors, that India’s decision to revoke Kashmir’s special status was likely to lead to greater extremism in the region. He said the temptation for the Pakistan intelligence services would be once again to support cross-border militancy, even if the Pakistan civilian authorities opposed such a move.

He said greater extremism in Kashmir would have a direct impact on the UK, adding that 60-70% of British Pakistanis had origins in the Mirpur district in Kashmir. “Therefore there is a risk of radicalisation in this country of British Kashmiris. We all know that diasporas tend to be more radical than communities left behind and I do not see why this should be any different.”

In his letter Lavery wrote: “We are adamant that the deeply felt and genuinely held differences on the issue of Kashmir must not be allowed to divide communities against each other here in the UK.

“Kashmir is a bilateral matter for India and Pakistan to resolve together by means of a peaceful solution, which protects the human rights of the Kashmiri people and respects their right to have a say in their own future.”

Attention will now turn to how Labour words its election manifesto on this issue.

In a sign of the controversy the issue creates inside Labour, the former foreign secretary Jack Straw called on Pakistan to withdraw its claim to Kashmir. Speaking at the same Chatham House event as Lyall Grant, Straw said he was “extremely sympathetic” to the plight of Muslim people in Jammu and Kashmir, and said the actions of India’s prime minister, Narendra Modi, in revoking the state’s special status were “outrageous, preposterous, a complete breach of human rights and without any strategy attached”.

But he continued: “The thing I am clearest about is the way in which the whole of Pakistan’s politics and economics has become distorted in this vain search or attempt to redraw the boundaries of Kashmir and to take Jammu Kashmir into the Pakistan Republic.

“That is completely unobtainable, impossible, but that goal has led to Pakistan sponsoring terrorism across the line of control – without any question, we all know that – and it has also led to a bloated defence spending and disproportionate power to the defence forces of Pakistan.”

He said Pakistan needed to reflect on why its economy had not grown at the same rate as India’s, adding that Pakistan’s state sponsoring of terrorism reduced the country’s diplomatic traction.

He added: “If the ISI [Pakistan’s intelligence services] think the answer to the situation is a bit more terrorism they will be gravely mistaken.”

Under the new arrangement, Jammu and Kashmir is designated one territory, and Ladakh, which borders China, is separate. Almost 98% of the state’s population will be in the territory of Jammu and Kashmir, comprising two regions – the Muslim-majority Kashmir valley, which has about 8 million people, and the Hindu-majority Jammu, which has about 6 million.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LATEST: The Hindu Council has now written to the Chief Rabbi to express their support and to accuse the Labour Party of also becoming anti-Hindu. Major interventions in this election today from pretty much every major faith in Britain. Astonishing. <a href="https://t.co/J4fRtvIOLw">pic.twitter.com/J4fRtvIOLw</a></p>— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1199390279876403201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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