New Zealand (346/5) comprehensively defeat Pakistan (345/5) by 5 wickets in their first warm-up game in the ICC World Cup 2023

[hassan918]

Chapman is bossing Nawaz at the moment.

 

[Mercurial]

We need a specialist spinner. Someone who can pick wickets in middle overs.
Bits n pieces will never deliver anything substantial

Since Shadab and Usama boast nearly identical List-A bowling averages, it would be unreasonable to choose Usama over Shadab, especially considering Shadab's additional ability to contribute with the bat

 

[castortroy]

This Chapman is pure class

Better than most of the batters in Pak

 

[pakpassfan]

NZ absolutely creamed this warm up match

 

[PakPremi]

Generator is back!

To generate boundaries

 

[emranabbas]

Hassan ali setting his own field
I have not seen any pakistani bowler do that in recent times

 

[PakPremi]

Since Shadab and Usama boast nearly identical List-A bowling averages, it would be unreasonable to choose Usama over Shadab, especially considering Shadab's additional ability to contribute with the bat

Usama also looks like a poor fielder.

 

[Rana]

Generator!!!!

 

[TheSultan]

Hassan ali setting his own field
I have not seen any pakistani bowler do that in recent times

I suppose we have to look at the positives

 

[Syed1]

Can the people who wanted this garbage Hasan Ali in the squad over Amir please raise their hands, we want to point and laugh at them.

 

[Ahmed216]

Since Shadab and Usama boast nearly identical List-A bowling averages, it would be unreasonable to choose Usama over Shadab, especially considering Shadab's additional ability to contribute with the bat

But shadab's form is poor. We can't have two spinners who have not picked wickets recently.
Both Usama and shadab should play not nawaz

 

[PakPremi]

Haris did not bowl after opening spell, looks like they do not want to risk an injury to him.

 

[emranabbas]

I don't think we will win a single game this worldcup

 

[IAJ]

This was a 400 runs pitch. The first 20 overs hurting the team now. Top order being exposed match after match but no cosequences at all.

NZ 153/1 after 20 overs.
Pak 90/2 after 20 overs

Already at this early stage Kiwis were 63 runs ahead, 63 freaking runs!

 

[Nikhil_cric]

That T20I series in Pakistan was literally.

Pakistan's pacers and spinners dominating the rest of the lineup

and

Mark Chapman counter-attacking and destroying all your pacers and spinners

His hitting is like a left handed Buttler/AB

 

[AAli98]

Don’t worry this bowling line up will bowl Netherlands out.

 

[ex-q-zit]

Why aren’t chacha and Shadab bowling?

The only explaination is that all those who are sure to be in the XI are not being used today with the exception of Haris and Hasanas they need to check who amongst these 2 can bowl the new ball. The rest Salman, Nawaz, Usama, Wasim are being tested. Especially one amongst Nawaz and Usama may even be the 2nd spinner in spinning conditions. Shadab atleast for the 1st few games is a sure shot selection.

 

[Rana]

So we have a warm up against Australia too? They will target 500

 

[Sherazkhalid]

All depends on first ten overs of Pak bowling, if Afridi or Rauf doesn't make inroads, that is it, not winning anything with this batting and bowling.

 

[pakpassfan]

I don't think we will win a single game this worldcup

Dont worry, there is always Bangladesh

 

[castortroy]

That T20I series in Pakistan was literally.

Pakistan's pacers and spinners dominating the rest of the lineup

and

Mark Chapman counter-attacking and destroying all your pacers and spinners

His hitting is like a left handed Buttler/AB

One of the most underrated batters around.

The guys is top quality

 

[Saj]

This is a very flat deck.

You need more than bowlers who just run in and bowl, you need more variety and thought in your pacers.

 

[Sherazkhalid]

This was a 400 runs pitch. The first 20 overs hurting the team now. Top order being exposed match after match but no cosequences at all.

NZ 153/1 after 20 overs.
Pak 90/2 after 20 overs

Already at this early stage Kiwis were 63 runs ahead, 63 freaking runs!

And then there are people who think 100 off 100 balls by an opener is the winning recipe.

 

[Rana]

Pakistan are a total

Total mess in this World Cup

 

[sam_ahm]

Pakistan will desperately miss Naseem Shah in this World Cup.

Wasim Jnr is looking very ordinary, Usama Mir is so harmless, still cannot believe how he is preferred over Abrar. Hasan Ali is a forced selection, can't do much.

Doesn't look good.

 

[Rana]

Generator boy!!

 

[Rana]

Babar doing a press conference tonight?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Good workout for Pakistan.

Clearly 10 overs 30-1 is the wrong approach.

Bowling cant get any worse so at least some respite.

 

[Syed1]

Pakistan will desperately miss Naseem Shah in this World Cup.

Wasim Jnr is looking very ordinary, Usama Mir is so harmless, still cannot believe how he is preferred over Abrar. Hasan Ali is a forced selection, can't do much.

Doesn't look good.

The bowling line up is just Shaheen and Rauf in the death. The rest of the 30 overs will be easy for the opposition. They should target atleast 250-280 in those 30 overs.

 

[Sherazkhalid]

Ladoo to finish off the match

 

[Adi_62945]

China’s generator started from where he left last time. Good spanking by Nz

 

[Syed1]

But but but generator won us CT17 he is big game player he is great choice over Amir

 

[Rana]

Generating more tweets in favour of Babar clique

 

[Vikram1989]

And then there are people who think 100 off 100 balls by an opener is the winning recipe.

On top of that cake, they will demonise you for criticism of those players

 

[Rana]

Hahahaha Sunny G commentary

 

[Usman Chadda]

Pakistan will desperately miss Naseem Shah in this World Cup.

Wasim Jnr is looking very ordinary, Usama Mir is so harmless, still cannot believe how he is preferred over Abrar. Hasan Ali is a forced selection, can't do much.

Doesn't look good.

Yeah, even with Naseem we were struggling as those 20 overs in the middle would have gone for 7-8 RPO regardless of who bowls them.

Without Naseem, you are looking at 30 of those overs and Shaheen and Rauf have a mountain to climb.

I still maintain, despite of how bad our spinners have been, Babar’s captaincy is not making things any easier. Singles are given away so easily.

 

[deltexas]

There will be big scores in the warm ups. But come world cup , unless you have Netherlands or Afg , there wont be too many big scores due to WC presuure just like the 2019 WC where they predicted contstant 350+ scores

 

[castortroy]

Wow this has been an absolute battering

 

[Adi_62945]

great experience bowling half volleys on off stump

 

[Rana]

346 chased in 44 overs

 

[Sherazkhalid]

But but but generator won us CT17 he is big game player he is great choice over Amir

2010s called, they want their generator urf Laddo bowler back.

 

[Major]

But but but generator won us CT17 he is big game player he is great choice over Amir

Generator over any fixer.

 

[Rana]

Shadab smirking

 

[TheSultan]

Fitting end to this mismatch - one handed 6

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Good workout for Pakistan.

Clearly 10 overs 30-1 is the wrong approach.

Bowling cant get any worse so at least some respite.

Only 20-30 short, if at all. It's a hard ground to defend if you don't take wickets upfront in the 2nd innings . After 30 overs, the ball gets soft/dew may come in and if there are wickets left , even peak Wasim/Waqar/Shoaib/Imran won't defend it.

 

[Sherazkhalid]

346 chased in 44 overs

would have been sooner if not for NZ giving everyone a go.

 

[NeVerMind]

Hasan Ali ends up with a worse economy rate than Wasim Jnr!

 

[Rana]

Rizwan is happy so Pakistan should be happy

 

[Asad T]

346 chased in 44 overs

We were 50-60 runs too short in the end

 

[Usman Chadda]

Only 20-30 short, if at all. It's a hard ground to defend if you don't take wickets upfront in the 2nd innings . After 30 overs, the ball gets soft/dew may come in and if there are wickets left , even peak Wasim/Waqar/Shoaib/Imran won't defend it.

Regardless, our spinners’ stats are horrible.

 

[castortroy]

Yeah, even with Naseem we were struggling as those 20 overs in the middle would have gone for 7-8 RPO regardless of who bowls them.

Without Naseem, you are looking at 30 of those overs and Shaheen and Rauf have a mountain to climb.

I still maintain, despite of how bad our spinners have been, Babar’s captaincy is not making things any easier. Singles are given away so easily.

Yeah he is a very defensive captain. Does not apply pressure whatsoever on the new batters coming in and allows the opposition teams to breeze singles throughout

 

[Major]

Only 20-30 short, if at all. It's a hard ground to defend if you don't take wickets upfront in the 2nd innings . After 30 overs, the ball gets soft/dew may come in and if there are wickets left , even peak Wasim/Waqar/Shoaib/Imran won't defend it.

Are all grounds and wickets like this? Which are spin friendly and pace friendly?

 

[hassan918]

Not the best of starts for team Pakistan in India. The performance with the bat was decent but Pakistan bowling looks a real concern ahead of the World Cup. It wasn't a small target but New Zealand made a mockery of this.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Yeah he is a very defensive captain. Does not apply pressure whatsoever on the new batters coming in and allows the opposition teams to breeze singles throughout

Yep, the issue with that is he as a captain is basically crippling his spinners and not even give them a chance to bowl to attacking fields.

It’s pacers or bust for Babar, and this middle-overs meltdown is due to that. He needs to rectify this quickly, as every team will look to target this aspect mercilessly.

 

[mominsaigol]

Not the best of starts for team Pakistan in India. The performance with the bat was decent but Pakistan bowling looks a real concern ahead of the World Cup. It wasn't a small target but New Zealand made a mockery of this.

It wasn't decent bro, this was clearly a 380 to 400 pitch. Imam and Abdullah got us 30 in the first 10.

 

[Sherazkhalid]

Not the best of starts for team Pakistan in India. The performance with the bat was decent but Pakistan bowling looks a real concern ahead of the World Cup. It wasn't a small target but New Zealand made a mockery of this.

Soon it be not best end of warmup, then not the best first game, then not the best second game and finally not the best end for Pakistan in WC and then come up with some ICC/India conspiracy and rinse and repeat for the next WCs.

 

[shah9425]

Middle overs wickets are much needed

 

[AMSS]

In IPL, this ground has consistently been a slow and low scoring one.

Clearly ICC curators did their things to ensure high scoring matches.

 

[hassan918]

It wasn't decent bro, this was clearly a 380 to 400 pitch. Imam and Abdullah got us 30 in the first 10.

As a Pakistani fan, you don't really expect the team to score 400 in an ODI. They have never done it in the history and they have played plenty of matches on flatter wickets than this.

 

[Sherazkhalid]

Not the best of starts for team Pakistan in India. The performance with the bat was decent but Pakistan bowling looks a real concern ahead of the World Cup. It wasn't a small target but New Zealand made a mockery of this.

Don't worry our ace spinner was not in action today.

 

[Savak]

This is a very flat deck.

You need more than bowlers who just run in and bowl, you need more variety and thought in your pacers.

You need a more preoactive attacking captain as well with his bowling changes, field placings, not someone who spreads the field out and allows easy singles to the opposition and doesn't give his bowlers a chance to create any sort of pressure.

 

[Usman Chadda]

It wasn't decent bro, this was clearly a 380 to 400 pitch. Imam and Abdullah got us 30 in the first 10.

Yeah, Pakistan has a great track record of scoring 380-400s in LOI cricket.

 

[ahmadharis1]

Every time Pakistan bats first they are at least 50 runs short

 

[Savak]

Warm up matches are for the players to get used to the conditions. Don't read too much into this.

 

[FearlessRoar]

NZ chased down 346 runs in less than 44 overs. I am not sure how we will win upcoming matches with bowlers like Usama Mir and Mohammad Wasim Jr.

 

[Rana]

Warm up matches are for the players to get used to the conditions. Don't read too much into this.

Oh they got used to the conditions all right

 

[Sherazkhalid]

Warm up matches are for the players to get used to the conditions. Don't read too much into this.

Yep, get used to getting hit all over the park and 10 economy rate.

 

[Rana]

I get it it’s a warm up match but how can you casually go for 8-10 runs per over?

 

[Saanji]

Pakistan always has a quota of games to lose .. its best to lose in these useless warm up games

 

[Rana]

Yep, get used to getting hit all over the park and 10 economy rate.

Proper warm up for the fans

 

[mominsaigol]

Yeah, Pakistan has a great track record of scoring 380-400s in LOI cricket.

I'm not saying that Pakistan is a team that can score 380 to 400. But obviously its a glaring problem considering we have England scoring 400 for Jokes and giggles now adays where we think 300 is good enough.

We're always living 20 years in the past. We were playing 1995 cricket in 2015 World cup, 1999 cricket in 2019 World Cup and now 2003 cricket in 2023 World Cup, the whole planet wants to outbat, outbowl and outplay the opposition, we want to accumulate and stat pad so that we are falsely remembered as a great cricketing nation.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Regardless, our spinners’ stats are horrible.

India defended 349 here. We had New Zealand 132/6 in 29 overs. After that , Bracewell and Santner took them to 337.

If you don't keep snapping wickets for the first 30 overs, you can even score 220 runs after that if one or two batsmen survive after 30 overs.

You have to front load as many overs of your wicket taking bowlers as possible .

You can't defend like in Karachi.

The way to play ODI cricket in most venues in India is very different from Pakistani venues

 

[pakpassfan]

In IPL, this ground has consistently been a slow and low scoring one.

Clearly ICC curators did their things to ensure high scoring matches.

I really thought India will not give England what it wants, i.e pattas

 

[Rana]

Bowl first against Pakistan

Let Babar and Rizwan eat 30-40 overs in the middle

Chase whatever below par score they set you

 

[hassan918]

New Zealand chased down the target of 346 with more than 6 overs to spare. Great run chase by them.

 

[mominsaigol]

Bowl first against Pakistan

Let Babar and Rizwan eat 30-40 overs in the middle

Chase whatever below par score they set you

I've noticed a pattern, anytime rizwan scores Pakistan loses . Its only when he doesn't score we win.

Shame we didn't fakhar in this game, he's the only one capable of actually outbatting the opposition assuming he gets going.

 

[Rana]

I've noticed a pattern, anytime rizwan scores Pakistan loses . Its only when he doesn't score we win.

Shame we didn't fakhar in this game, he's the only one capable of actually outbatting the opposition assuming he gets going.

He always plays for himself. He and his fans always win inside

 

[Suleiman]

New Zealand chased down the target of 346 with more than 6 overs to spare. Great run chase by them.
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Embarrassing. I know the delusionals will say it’s just a warmup, which it is. Still sad. 346 in 44 overs…. Sheesh.

 

[kron]

Pakistam not being able to participate in ipl has made it difficult for us to get used to these conditions. Many of these sena players are used to indian conditions as they participate in ipl regularly.

Just like how indian players don't play outside ipl in franchis leagues, we too suffer from the same fate. We will get stronger as we get acclimated to indian conditions. Do not fret brothers. Also naseem who is our best bowler is injured. So we lack a bit of potency.

 

[kron]

Embarrassing. I know the delusionals will say it’s just a warmup, which it is. Still sad. 346 in 44 overs…. Sheesh.

I agree but remember nz players play here every year. We don't.