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Babar has problem against slow left armers from india.. first Kuldeep now Keshav
We should get 250+If South Africa get a significant lead , we are in trouble. Need Azhar,Fawad, and Rizwan to step up .
Agree with your general point, but that delivery was just a natural variation off the surface.
We should get 250+
That would be ideal.If we get a lead of around 30 or match their score, SA aren't out of the game. Would like a 100 run lead.
For that you need brains, and that's the we have least among all teams, it's the primary reason, lack of natural talent is second.
That would be ideal.
I feel bad for the Pakistani middle-order. Because the top-order has been so bad recently.
In fairness, those who were hoping for a dust bowl but also hoping for Babar to dominate from the word go were getting slightly ahead of the game. He may play more freely on his second go and that may help him.
He’s improved against spin in comparison to where he was before but mostly because of playing against variations in LOIs. Long way to go negotiating it in Tests.
In conditions like these Azhar, Fawad and to an extent Abid and co. would have been default bets. Abid’s gone after another nonchalant knock (not the ‘cool’ type) and didn’t last long enough to face any spin.
Pretty much up to these two and some strokes from Rizwan, Faheem and Hassan possibly to avoid going down 1-0.
Two very poor teams playing poor cricket.
It is heartbreaking to see Pakistan cricket in this state. I don't know how long before the masses switch off in their droves.
Rashid Latif speaking on Game on hai is an eye opener. It is a botched job by the managment.
Invariable bounce is making SA fast bowlers more potent as they bowl 140+, hit the deck hard and avg height is a lot more so they will get more considerable invariable bounce compared our skiddy fast bowlers.
No home advantage
First target for Pak should be to get around 200 somehow and close to the SA total, anything above will be bonus. After that Pak will have to ball extremely well to restrict SA to a total which Pak can realistically chase in 4th innings. Things aren’t looking good but, still quite a lot of cricket left so you never know.
Shaheen is taller than the south african seamers though
Sure, but nothing not obvious, no?
More interesting to ask why Shaheen despite having pace and height is unable to exploit such conditions.
Do not need to go far back. Just think back to the deck on which Jamieson did well and Shaheen still looked like just a swing bowler.
Sure, but nothing not obvious, no?
More interesting to ask why Shaheen despite having pace and height is unable to exploit such conditions.
Do not need to go far back. Just think back to the deck on which Jamieson did well and Shaheen still looked like just a swing bowler.
He has no strength thats why.
Two very poor teams playing poor cricket.
It is heartbreaking to see Pakistan cricket in this state. I don't know how long before the masses switch off in their droves.
Shaheen is very overrated in red ball cricket
Shaheen is taller than the south african seamers though
Questionable tactics by Azhar. Why take a single of the first ball and expose Shaheen for 5 balls? Azhar was supposed to face majority of the remaining overs.
maharaj with rough marks will destroy faddy and faheem and any lefties we have..the right handers must fight and score
Overreaction. India was 36 AO. If India can come out of it, others too can.
He is a skiddy bowler, doesn't hit the deck hard like South African bowlers
Yep most selfish thing you can do, i questioned that myself
Questionable tactics by Azhar. Why take a single of the first ball and expose Shaheen for 5 balls? Azhar was supposed to face majority of the remaining overs.
This ultra defensive approach to batting continues to haunt Pakistan cricket. When has batting so slowly ever worked?
33 runs in 18 over, on a relatively straight forward pitch.
Never seen a batting lineup consistently do well with those tactics
Yep most selfish thing you can do, i questioned that myself
Can the remaining 6 wickets score at least 4 runs to make it 37![]()
Isn't this match being broadcasted in india ?
In which single post did I ever make the mistake of sounding classy?![]()
100 runs lead will be good here, but Pakistan has enough batting left to score some runs.
Pakistan are 33/4. So we need another 300 runs to get a 100 run lead or around that. All rounders and tailenders can get that much? Lol
I think he's talking about 100 runs lead for South Africa.
Ah ok. I think if SA get a 50 run lead that would be good for them. Then in their 2nd innings if they match what they got in their 1st innings, they will back themselves to win.
Need Azhar and Fawad special tomorrow.
What is the purpose of a night watchman????
Azar did exactly right . Nortje was too good with that yorker
Shocking but luckily Fawad with all his domestic experience can do something tomorrow.
I guess pitch deteriorated in a gradual manner and first session when SA batted was with pretty even bounce. However lack of accuracy and consistency of Pak pacers is not a hidden fact either. Also Shaheen is kiss the surface bowler more than hit the pitch hard bowler unlike SA pacers, something he needs to learn for certain surfaces.
Like I said, if you allow highly disciplined professional teams like England, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa or even India now the opportunity to bowl a hundred consecutive maidens at you, they will if you keep defending deliveries
As a batsman you have to exhibit initiative, do something to attack the bowlers, disrupt their line, length by playing a some unorthodox shots, disrupt the field and therefore creating some strike rotation policies. The fact we are so behind the times as a batting unit in the ODI and T20 format translates into our test cricket as well in situations where you temporarily need to go into ODI and T20 mode
Pakistan are 33/4. So we need another 300 runs to get a 100 run lead or around that. All rounders and tailenders can get that much? Lol
Yup. Attritional and disciplined cricket is not quite PAK’s forte. We are not quite so good at playing the formulaic game and recently have demonstrated our ability to bat c. 100 overs averaging below 3 rpo.
Apart from Rizwan, Faheem and Hassan do not know which of these players can or should play across the line. At any rate, the uneven bounce and pace at which they are bowling makes it even harder.
Yeah, half the specialist batting gone and people are talking about taking a 100 run lead.
That said the calibre of the dismissed batsmen means it probably wouldn't have made much difference to the score in the end, other than Babar obviously. I don't think anyone expects runs from the openers these days, not even on flat tracks.
The approach of preparing a dust bowl negative and downright shameful.
Seems the minnow mentality is deeply ingrained now.
Seriously pathetic batting performance by Pakistan so far. Expect Azhar Ali and Fawad Alam to sleep on the pitch for next 2 sessions and bring Pakistan back into match.![]()
The approach of preparing a dust bowl negative and downright shameful.
Seems the minnow mentality is deeply ingrained now.
This wasn't a pure out dust bowl per say, but the wicket was very, very dry.
The ball was able to grip and turn after about 25 overs. Preparing a dust bowl isn't the minnow mentality, it's the fact that we consistently fail to take advantage of superior positions.
Had we batted the 18 overs without any loss, we'd have been in a very good situation.
Our test team is really in shambles, how was Abid not dropped.
Yeah and Pakistan is the first team to do so. They are playing at home against a decent side after so many years. Let them do what other subcontinent teams like India and Sri Lanka have been doing it for ages.![]()
Yeah and Pakistan is the first team to do so. They are playing at home against a decent side after so many years. Let them do what other subcontinent teams like India and Sri Lanka have been doing it for ages.![]()
SA in subcontinent is a decent side probably for minnows like pak & sl, they were thoroughly humiliated by India last time around and they were playing the same team which they have now.
For the 100th time, india hasn't prepared a dust bowl for over 10 years now and our wickets assist pace more. Are you still pretending to be indian and a test fan when ypu don't even know such basic facts?
No indian will make this mistake, I can understand Pakistanis not following every match we play
SA lost in sri lanka 2-0