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Pakistan General Elections 2024 - The ins/outs and mechanics
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Supporters of jailed former prime minister Imran Khan are slightly ahead in early election results, after vote counts were hit by delays following a mobile phone shutdown.
On Friday morning, the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) had announced 124 results for the 265 contested seats in the National Assembly.
Independent candidates, who mostly owe allegiance to Mr Khan, were in the lead with 49 seats, while the Pakistan Muslim League party of three-time prime minister Nawaz Sharif had 39 seats.
Some 30 seats were taken by the Pakistan Peoples Party of Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, the son of assassinated premier Benazir Bhutto.
The rest were won by small parties or non-aligned independents.
More results continue to come in.
Mr Khan is in prison and his Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party was barred from Thursday's election, so his supporters stood as independents.
Analysts have predicted there may be no clear winner in the election, adding to the troubles of a country struggling to recover from an economic crisis while it wrestles with rising militant violence against a polarised political backdrop.
Karachi's stock index and government-issued sovereign bonds fell as a result of the uncertainty.
An "internet issue" caused the holdup in counting votes after polls closed, according to Zafar Iqbal of the ECP.
The government said it suspended mobile phone services ahead of the election on Thursday as a security measure, and they were being partially restored.
The main battle was expected to be between candidates backed by Mr Khan, whose PTI won the last national election, and the PML of Mr Sharif.
Mr Khan believes the country's powerful military is behind a crackdown to wipe out his party, while analysts and opponents say Mr Sharif is being backed by the generals.
The armed forces has dominated the nuclear-armed nation either directly or indirectly in its 76 years of independence but in recent years has maintained it does not interfere in politics.
Mr Sharif, considered by many observers to be a strong candidate, dismissed talk of an unclear result.
He said: "Don't talk about a coalition government. It is very important for a government to get a clear majority... it should not be relying on others."
If the election does not result in a clear majority for anyone, as analysts are predicting, dealing with challenges facing the country could prove difficult.
These include seeking a new bailout programme from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) after the current arrangement expires in three weeks.
Thousands of troops were deployed on the streets and at polling stations across the country for the voting on Thursday.
Borders with Iran and Afghanistan were temporarily closed as security was stepped up.
Despite the heightened security, 12 people, including two children, were killed in 51 bomb blasts, grenade attacks and shootings by militants, mostly in the western provinces, the military said in a statement.
Caretaker interior minister Gohar Ejaz said: "Despite a few isolated incidents, the overall situation remained under control, demonstrating the effectiveness of our security measures."
Source: Sky News
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On Friday morning, the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) had announced 124 results for the 265 contested seats in the National Assembly.
Independent candidates, who mostly owe allegiance to Mr Khan, were in the lead with 49 seats, while the Pakistan Muslim League party of three-time prime minister Nawaz Sharif had 39 seats.
Some 30 seats were taken by the Pakistan Peoples Party of Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, the son of assassinated premier Benazir Bhutto.
The rest were won by small parties or non-aligned independents.
More results continue to come in.
Mr Khan is in prison and his Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party was barred from Thursday's election, so his supporters stood as independents.
Analysts have predicted there may be no clear winner in the election, adding to the troubles of a country struggling to recover from an economic crisis while it wrestles with rising militant violence against a polarised political backdrop.
Karachi's stock index and government-issued sovereign bonds fell as a result of the uncertainty.
An "internet issue" caused the holdup in counting votes after polls closed, according to Zafar Iqbal of the ECP.
The government said it suspended mobile phone services ahead of the election on Thursday as a security measure, and they were being partially restored.
The main battle was expected to be between candidates backed by Mr Khan, whose PTI won the last national election, and the PML of Mr Sharif.
Mr Khan believes the country's powerful military is behind a crackdown to wipe out his party, while analysts and opponents say Mr Sharif is being backed by the generals.
The armed forces has dominated the nuclear-armed nation either directly or indirectly in its 76 years of independence but in recent years has maintained it does not interfere in politics.
Mr Sharif, considered by many observers to be a strong candidate, dismissed talk of an unclear result.
He said: "Don't talk about a coalition government. It is very important for a government to get a clear majority... it should not be relying on others."
If the election does not result in a clear majority for anyone, as analysts are predicting, dealing with challenges facing the country could prove difficult.
These include seeking a new bailout programme from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) after the current arrangement expires in three weeks.
Thousands of troops were deployed on the streets and at polling stations across the country for the voting on Thursday.
Borders with Iran and Afghanistan were temporarily closed as security was stepped up.
Despite the heightened security, 12 people, including two children, were killed in 51 bomb blasts, grenade attacks and shootings by militants, mostly in the western provinces, the military said in a statement.
Caretaker interior minister Gohar Ejaz said: "Despite a few isolated incidents, the overall situation remained under control, demonstrating the effectiveness of our security measures."
Source: Sky News
Pakistan election: Early results give Imran Khan supporters the edge after count delays
Analysts have predicted there may be no clear winner in the poll, adding to the troubles of a country struggling to recover from an economic crisis while it wrestles with rising militant violence against a polarised political backdrop.
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Even if all the PTI backed independents won their seats, PTI still would’ve lost.
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soo funny watching nawaz give a dumb speech and keeps on emphasizing that he is the largest winning party. lol, you only have 60 seats as of now
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Why wouldn't the more natural alliance of Zardari - Sharif happen instead?
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lol recount what? they double stamped
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How is it natural?
PMLN and PPP differ massively. PPP believes on socialism where their mandate is mostly to increase govt spending by giving people more direct benefits from the govt. While PMLN is more capitalist centric where they believe on doing more economic development and promoting more trade and increasing the money supply of the economy.
Where exactly is the natural alliance?
The breaking of PDM also happened because of Ishaq Dar's appointment. As soon as he came and they removed Miftah, PPP voiced their opinions angrily that what PMLN was doing was very stupid and Dar is sabotaging the imf deal and creating more problems for Pakistan. Miftah said the same thing
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Is the voting still going on lol?
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Nawaz saying he will talk to Fazlu and Zardari. looool they are still thinking about a coalition.
Hope PPP does not join the govt. stay in opposition
Hope PPP does not join the govt. stay in opposition
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Expected winner: Establishment
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PMLN is begging zardari now
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Nawaz Sharif - "You all know how we(PML-N) brought Pakistan out of financial trouble."
Does this old man know anything about anything? How many times does these people's incompetence need to be exposed for them to feel some shame before uttering words like these?
You're the reason why we are in financial trouble, you criminal. Why did PMLN drain our reserves dry while not increasing our productive capacity? Why did they get Pakistan fined $9B over a goldmine? Why hasn't he been able to provide the money trail for his London flats where he was staying while lying about his medical condition to avoid jail like a coward? Why did he sign contracts with China that to this day cost us billions of dollars a year and don't contribute to our economy?
Why is he yet again stealing the public's mandate?
Do I need to keep going? This guy has over 30 years' worth of filth on him.
Does this old man know anything about anything? How many times does these people's incompetence need to be exposed for them to feel some shame before uttering words like these?
You're the reason why we are in financial trouble, you criminal. Why did PMLN drain our reserves dry while not increasing our productive capacity? Why did they get Pakistan fined $9B over a goldmine? Why hasn't he been able to provide the money trail for his London flats where he was staying while lying about his medical condition to avoid jail like a coward? Why did he sign contracts with China that to this day cost us billions of dollars a year and don't contribute to our economy?
Why is he yet again stealing the public's mandate?
Do I need to keep going? This guy has over 30 years' worth of filth on him.
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Nawaz is giving a victory speech after winning 60 seats. Ary is having a laugh on them
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Nawaz Sharif says he has told his younger sibling Shehbaz to reach out to the PPP’s Asif Ali Zardari, JUI-F’s Fazlur Rehman and MQM-P’s Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui for the formation of a coalition government.
“Shehbaz Sharif and Ishaq Dar will hold meetings today,” he said.
PDM 2.0, it's gonna be worse than before this time. I've always said, PPP = PMLN and vice versa.
“Shehbaz Sharif and Ishaq Dar will hold meetings today,” he said.
PDM 2.0, it's gonna be worse than before this time. I've always said, PPP = PMLN and vice versa.
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waiting for PPP what they say. Whether PPP will join the govt or not.
MQM will join PMLN
MQM will join PMLN
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Basically the speech indicates that Shebaz Shareef will be the candidate for PM now.
But the thing is, even if there is a coalition of both parties, the difference between PPP and PMLN is 10-14 seats. So if coalition happens PPP has to compromise
Nawaz Sharif has given up that he doesnt have a full majority
But the thing is, even if there is a coalition of both parties, the difference between PPP and PMLN is 10-14 seats. So if coalition happens PPP has to compromise
Nawaz Sharif has given up that he doesnt have a full majority
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All eyes suddenly on PPP now. Which way they move.
This is where Imran Khan doesnt know how to play politics.
This is where Imran Khan doesnt know how to play politics.
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Zardari and Bilalwal have reached Lahore.
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They've forgiven PMLN for much worse over the years. Why are you so sure PPP won't fall in line again?
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PPP will place its demands.
Right now there is no benefit for PPP at all, in short nor in long term. Maybe they will place demand that Bilawal gets PMship, but lets see.
But Imran needs to learn politics here. 91 independents, and going into opposition just shows how bad Imran is as a politician.
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Surely if Bilawal wants to be PM in the future he’d want the Sharif’s out of the picture. Keeping PMLN alive would make no sense to me if I was Bilawal.
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Or principled. We dont want IK to change because to change means to be part of a corrupt system. Its the reason PKs have come out in their millions for him. No biryani, no 5000 rp notes, just honesty and ideology.
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What is this Gohar even doing? Imran Khan needs to be flexible
PPP needs to look after its own perception. If PTI doesnt want to agree than PPP should go to opposition.
Atleast what PTI can do is by joining hands with PPP they can start a scrutiny on the election after forming govt
PPP needs to look after its own perception. If PTI doesnt want to agree than PPP should go to opposition.
Atleast what PTI can do is by joining hands with PPP they can start a scrutiny on the election after forming govt
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Imran has 5 years. Thats it. He is not gonna live long.
Imran needs to do a compromise, and this is the best time to negotiate.
One great political move and PMLN could die by tonight.
Imran needs to keep his ego aside and play politics
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Not compromising on your ideology and the reason people voted for you != being a bad politician.
You guys need to forget about politics for a second and think about what's best for Pakistan like people do in every other country during an election.
Besides, joining hands with either of the PDM parties is political suicide.
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It’s probably his last election before he leaves politics, the best thing he can do for Pakistan is to put an end to PML-N, even if it means holding hands with Zardari.
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Its not natural.
PPP vote base wont really stomach being a junior partner to them once again
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Whats best for Pakistan is dumping noon league.
Sitting in opposition means nothing in Pakistan.
Form government, get Imran out. Make clear that had it not been rigged they would have won outright. Make clear the alliance with PPP is temporary and go after the riggers.
Remove PMLN and you give a big blow to the establishment.
Besides compromising on these things is what got PTI into power in the first place.
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Honestly speaking, the way I see it….
Even if I contest the elections as an IND/PTI candidate…by that I mean ‘Rana from PakPassion’, just the internet guy versus Nawaz Sharif…Even I will win.
Yeah, that’s not really democracy I’m afraid.
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its the official result , more result to come .
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can someone plz share the ecp result link .
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I would form it with PTI. Cause Bilalwal is not the hated person in politics yet. His career would be made through this.
PPP has nothing to negotiate with PMLN as they won nothing in Punjab so they wont get any ministry from Punjab.
PPP is better off sitting in opposition and than wait for PTI to than finish of with Imran's old age and than when the vaccum gets created PPP gets its MNA's back from PTI
PPP lost its mnas to PTI in the past
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And how is PPP any better than PMLN? PPP along with the establishment literally cut the country in half in 1970 because the election didn't go in their favor. PPP is responsible for destroying Pakistan's financial capital and turning Sindh into a wasteland of filth and corruption. They blackmail people in villages in order to get votes. Did you forget about the billions in aid they stole during one of the worst periods in Pakistan's history? Did you forget about Mr 10% who schemes and gambles with the future of Pakistanis?
I'll ask you again, how are these monsters any better than their twins from Punjab? Why should PTI go after PMLN by joining hands with PMLN's Sindhi(Mostly Baloch but a little Sindhi as well) equivalent?
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even the lifafa journalist are saying that PTI have swept the whole punjab and NA seats and the results coming are forged by Establishment and gives the election on the plater .
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">جو لوگ پی ایم ایل این کا نتیجہ مرتب کر رہے تھے، انہوں نے مجھے خود بتایا کہ نون لیگ ہر جگہ سے ہار گئی ہے، خدا کے لیے عوام کے ساتھ ایسا مذاق نہ کریں: منصور علی خان <a href="https://t.co/rHEeSoJSbC">pic.twitter.com/rHEeSoJSbC</a></p>— PTI (@PTIofficial) <a href=" ">February 9, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">جو لوگ پی ایم ایل این کا نتیجہ مرتب کر رہے تھے، انہوں نے مجھے خود بتایا کہ نون لیگ ہر جگہ سے ہار گئی ہے، خدا کے لیے عوام کے ساتھ ایسا مذاق نہ کریں: منصور علی خان <a href="https://t.co/rHEeSoJSbC">pic.twitter.com/rHEeSoJSbC</a></p>— PTI (@PTIofficial) <a href=" ">February 9, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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PTI + PPP is no better than the trash known as PDM.
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politics. if Pti knew how to play politics, they would forming a govt right now and ending pmln.
poltics > ego
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This has been an established fact since the polling ended.
Imran Khan won the elections.
Nawaz won the result.
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Then the alternative is that Imran can sit in jail and you can be morally outraged until he passes away inside.
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I cant wait until mark 2.0 takes office
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Negotiate on the constitutional issues but nothing else. IKs success is because he isnt a politician, he is a leader. He has awakened a new generation and that genie isnt going back into the bottle. Any coalition would destroy his credibility as long as AZ and the waderas are involved. Can you imagine a coalition with gorms like Qadir Patel.
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They said he wont last 3 days, they said he wont be able to stand the heat or the cold. Our Kaptaan is a leader that comes around once in a century. He has quite literally millions praying for him on a daily basis.
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PTI exists till Imran is alive. So if IK wants to lose than so be it.He is 70+ year old and wont live that much long. Even if he is alive by 2028 , he would be too old to stand in an election.
WHen the govt gets formed by tonight or tomr, either PMLN dies or PTI dies. PPP stays on
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Are you voting for a person or an ideology? I'm no die-hard fan of Imran Khan, I like what he's representing right now and his ideology.
If he joins with the people that have brought and will keep Pakistan in these depths then I'm gonna go off the PTI boat. I'll understand if you or others stand behind PTI despite that but forming an alliance with PPP or PMLN has always been my red line.
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oh bhai, be realistic. If IK gets gua so does zardari and Nawaz lol.
Reality is these guys are old. Even Nawaz is backing out and bringing his daughter and brother. PPP is bringing in Bilawal. IK wont live forever.
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Honestly I think that's a dream. The generals haven't come this far including convicting Imran of an illegal marriage to let him now join the government.
They won't let PPP go into an alliance with him. Half the independents will mysteriously disappear if that looks like it's likely to happen.
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Another chance to PTI is if Supreme Court comes out and saves them. So lets see if Faiz Isa saves PTI or not. All they ahve to do is give their party symbol back and PTI will get reserve seats
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I've already stated that PPP and PMLN are both equally evil. If you wanna talk politics then PPP needs Imran Khan to give it relevance. He is the single biggest politician in Pakistan and PPP is going downhill every election cycle along with PMLN, who is dead even in Punjab.
Imran Khan's image will be destroyed while PPP's will be rejuvenated if PTI joins hands with them. PTI is also the only muti-provincial party in Pakistan.
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Without an election campaign PTI won alot of seats. Without party symbol, without the voter knowing who or she is. THis is a big achievement, but it should not be wasted in opposition
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Neither.
The only way to capitalise on the anti establishment public sentiment is for Imran to be out and about.
Otherwise they will erase everything about him and his ideology in time.
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forming alliance with PPP for PTI means accepting rigging and superiority of establishment in forming/controlling government, thats is not what the public voted for.
they should said, either reverse the rigging, use all evidence, highlight on social media, intl media, local media however possible, to get the full 140-150 seats that they had + punjab seats, else sit in opposition.
they will retain their support, and the next govt won't be able to address issues of economy, etc., and will fail on its own in 1-2 years max.
they should said, either reverse the rigging, use all evidence, highlight on social media, intl media, local media however possible, to get the full 140-150 seats that they had + punjab seats, else sit in opposition.
they will retain their support, and the next govt won't be able to address issues of economy, etc., and will fail on its own in 1-2 years max.
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PPP is not going downhill. Each election PPP is winning more seats than before.
PPP is playing survivng politics and they always have enough seats that lets them to do a coalition and get ministries.
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He is 70+ old man. Despite the benefits of duas age catches up with people eventually.
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Pashtun nationalist party calls for protests in Balochistan
The Pashtoonkhuwa Mili Awami Party (PKMAP) has announced protests across Balochistan province against the election results.
Addressing a news conference in Quetta, PKMAP’s chairman Mehmood Khan Achakzai called the 2024 parliamentary and provincial polls rigged.
The southwestern province had been rocked by twin attacks in recent days outside of candidates’ offices, claimed by ISIL (ISIS) group.
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The Pashtoonkhuwa Mili Awami Party (PKMAP) has announced protests across Balochistan province against the election results.
Addressing a news conference in Quetta, PKMAP’s chairman Mehmood Khan Achakzai called the 2024 parliamentary and provincial polls rigged.
The southwestern province had been rocked by twin attacks in recent days outside of candidates’ offices, claimed by ISIL (ISIS) group.
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lol, oh bhai, no one in international media cares or do anything. You can cry about rigging all you want, what will happen? NOTHING.
PPP was not the one involved in rigging. If PTI sits in opposition that still means they are accepting rigging
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Good. Pakistan needs more self hating sell outs leading the country, no doubt that will go just as well as it did the previous 70+ years of it's existence.
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General Elections 2024 updates by ECP so far.
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I understand your perspective, but I don't agree. Me elaborating on this would be long and boring so let's leave it at this.
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US says it looks forward to ‘timely, complete’ results from Pakistan election
The United States is looking forward to “timely, complete election results” from Pakistan reflecting the will of its people, the State Department has said.
“The United States is prepared to work with the next Pakistani government, regardless of political party, to advance our shared interests,” it added in a statement.
Former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif earlier claimed victory despite preliminary results suggesting otherwise.
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The United States is looking forward to “timely, complete election results” from Pakistan reflecting the will of its people, the State Department has said.
“The United States is prepared to work with the next Pakistani government, regardless of political party, to advance our shared interests,” it added in a statement.
Former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif earlier claimed victory despite preliminary results suggesting otherwise.
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No official site is doing a count of Form 45, but I've seen what you're referring to on news channels. A very large number of PTI ticket holders are saying that their Form 47 results contradict their Form 45 results.
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IK already sold himself by giving extentions to Bajwa allowing army to do what it wanted and also going into coalition with MQM.
Anyways, the stage is set for PMLN to take what they want. Only Imran can stop him if he knows how to play politics.
Infact, pti would not be in this mess had they not given up Punjab assembly or sat in opposition after VONC
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bro you got this from that page called Pakistan republic something. its a propoganda page that posts fake news all the time
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for public to come out, there needs to be a strong leader that can take a bullet. No one exists in PTI as such
watch this it will explain
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Is that why a PPP ticket holder was blackmailing people that if they don't vote for him he'll cup off their village's water supply? The PPP that's concentrated on a single province, and doesn't even win the major city of said province?
Why not use the same excuse for MQM(one of the biggest beneficiaries of rigging)? They're playing surviving politics and trying to join a coalition too.
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True and I know its easy for me to stay as I have never spent a night in the cells but Kaptaan has sacrificed too much for PK and its too late to become a politician. He needs to stick to his guns
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MQM only has 4-8 seats every election. And MQM is known as the party that ends up jumping ship and making sure the boat sinks.
The reason why PTI lost VONC was because of MQM.
Even today PPP has seats that they can join any party and get to be in govt.
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its better to destroy PMLN right now and than later have a fight between PPP and PTI later
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For once I agree with @Major, if PTI wants to do substantial reforms and rebuild Pak economy they need a strong political ally i.e PPP. We can't practically change the system sitting outside of it
Secondly, if they form an alliance then all four provinces will have an "allied working govt". Moreover two parties can take swift decisions in developing Pakistan rather then a 10 parties alliance.
I am highlighting this more because Sindh needs a proper ally from federal level which can be provided by rejuvenated and rising PTI having some young and fresh blood.
Sindh and balochistan needs proper attention at national/federal level for thriving Pakistan.
Just my two cents.
Secondly, if they form an alliance then all four provinces will have an "allied working govt". Moreover two parties can take swift decisions in developing Pakistan rather then a 10 parties alliance.
I am highlighting this more because Sindh needs a proper ally from federal level which can be provided by rejuvenated and rising PTI having some young and fresh blood.
Sindh and balochistan needs proper attention at national/federal level for thriving Pakistan.
Just my two cents.
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PTI leadership to meet Khan in jail to discuss results: Aide
An aide to jailed former Prime Minister Imran Khan has disclosed the planned meeting to Geo News, according to the Reuters news agency. The meeting is set to take place on Saturday.
Khan is currently in jail on cases related to corruption and leaking state secrets. His PTI party was stripped of its election symbol and all of its candidates had contested the vote as independents.
Those candidates have taken a narrow lead in the poll, winning 92 of the 224 seats so far announced.
Al Jazeera
An aide to jailed former Prime Minister Imran Khan has disclosed the planned meeting to Geo News, according to the Reuters news agency. The meeting is set to take place on Saturday.
Khan is currently in jail on cases related to corruption and leaking state secrets. His PTI party was stripped of its election symbol and all of its candidates had contested the vote as independents.
Those candidates have taken a narrow lead in the poll, winning 92 of the 224 seats so far announced.
Al Jazeera
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Let it go, dude. IK got more votes than both PMLN and PPP individually while sitting in jail, with no election symbol, and the entire state machinery being used against him. PTI wasn't even allowed to campaign the same way PPP and PMLN were allowed to.
Both these parties are dead. If we had a free and fair election right now with everyone having equal footing both Nawaz and Zardari would be on their way to London right now. Do not overstate the value of these has-beens on the pretext of these sham elections. This election is only 2nd to the one where ZAB divided Pakistan in two because he lost. One of PPP's many great achievements.
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Asim Munir should get Ali Zafar to release his PSL anthem immediately, it’s the only way to divert the attention away from the elections.
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