Pakistan General Elections 2024 - The ins/outs and mechanics

[cricketjoshila]

Can anyone explain form 45 and form 47 for me?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

single largest faction to sit in opposition.

Most popular leader in jail.

Corrupt and convicted politician once removed by supreme court may become PM.

Bhai, Do a coup and have a military dictatorship. Why waste money and why make people line up to vote?

Its a good point.

But this strategy allows the establishment to present Pakistan as democratic which goes down well with western organisation, and they can hide and blame the 'elected' government when things go wrong.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Can anyone explain form 45 and form 47 for me?

45 is the list of vote count from a polling station.

47 is the total of all the form 45s for the region.

Despite all the 45 being in favour of PTI and showing large votes...the totals in 47 are showing PMLN as winning.

 

[mon858]

True and I know its easy for me to stay as I have never spent a night in the cells but Kaptaan has sacrificed too much for PK and its too late to become a politician. He needs to stick to his guns

but i do feel pti is not dynastic. people have woken up, they can continue without IK in the long run. there are many other "leaders", ali mohammed khan, yasmin rashid, asad qaiser, khurram sherzaman, smq, etc.

 

[Major]

Let it go, dude. IK got more votes than both PMLN and PPP individually while sitting in jail, with no election symbol, and the entire state machinery being used against him. PTI wasn't even allowed to campaign the same way PPP and PMLN were allowed to.

Both these parties are dead. If we had a free and fair election right now with everyone having equal footing both Nawaz and Zardari would be on their way to London right now. Do not overstate the value of these has-beens on the pretext of these sham elections. This election is only 2nd to the one where ZAB divided Pakistan in two because he lost. One of PPP's many great achievements.

ZAB was well within his rights to not give that election, i am not gonna go in that dicussion, read mujeebs 7 points and think for yourself if it was acceptable

 

[Bewal Express]

PTI exists till Imran is alive. So if IK wants to lose than so be it.He is 70+ year old and wont live that much long. Even if he is alive by 2028 , he would be too old to stand in an election.

WHen the govt gets formed by tonight or tomr, either PMLN dies or PTI dies. PPP stays on

The PTI will exist. We have seen the worst oppression and we have survived. We have bright young leaders. I can name you Muraad, Ali Mohammad, and more will emerge.

its better to destroy PMLN right now and than later have a fight between PPP and PTI later

In Politics nothing is permanent. The Nooras like the PPP panicked and took Bajwas poison and will temporarily pay the price. IK is popular today but as Harold Macmillian said all those years ago, events dear boy, events. Politics is shaped by events and what's is popular today won't be tomorrow. If IK makes a coalition with either party he too will be finished.

 

[m.shah]

What are the results? Any chance of pti forming government ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

IK already sold himself by giving extentions to Bajwa allowing army to do what it wanted and also going into coalition with MQM.

Anyways, the stage is set for PMLN to take what they want. Only Imran can stop him if he knows how to play politics.

Infact, pti would not be in this mess had they not given up Punjab assembly or sat in opposition after VONC

I am not arguing with you, you are agreeing with what I said. Pakistan doesn't need people like Imran Khan, they need more self-hating sell-outs who will rubber stamp the establishment. Puppet govts are useful for masking what is being done by the puppet masters who will be getting ready to sign away some more Pakistani assets as long as they get a nice lump sum transferred into offshore accounts of their own choosing.

 

[Hextro]

But they have shown their naked arses. In Pothwari, its much more crude. PK will, IA come out stronger. Sooner or later these 4 or 5 Generals, NS, Nani and AZ will beg for mercy. It is clear that IK has around 70% support, evil will only last so long

PTI must immediately go to court over Form 47s contradicting Form 45s and the irregularities in the elections. It's an open and shut case in favor of most of PTI's candidates. I hope that there's a judge in Pakistan that hasn't sold his soul.

 

[Major]

PTI must immediately go to court over Form 47s contradicting Form 45s and the irregularities in the elections. It's an open and shut case in favor of most of PTI's candidates. I hope that there's a judge in Pakistan that hasn't sold his soul.

nothing happened in 2018 and nothing happen in 2024. If supreme court was fair, they would give them their symbol back

 

[Savak]

The experienced A team's of PML N, PPP have been handed a historical trashing from an U-19 PTI team where their leader was in jail and not even campaigning. Let that sink in to the PML N and PPP supporters.

 

[mon858]

PTI must immediately go to court over Form 47s contradicting Form 45s and the irregularities in the elections. It's an open and shut case in favor of most of PTI's candidates. I hope that there's a judge in Pakistan that hasn't sold his soul.

honestly have zero hope from courts or ECP. bloodless coup has not worked. the other option is not a good one but they are trying to force that eventually. i think they softened the blow by letting pti still get 90+ seats and not make it super blatant rigging by cutting their seats in half to avoid a major civil crisis.

 

[mon858]

The experienced A team's of PML N, PPP have been handed a historical trashing from an U-19 PTI team where their leader was in jail and not even campaigning. Let that sink in to the PML N and PPP supporters.

also, the real victory / defeat is people vs establishment.
pti happened to be playing the match, it could have been anyone else on another time in history of the country.
and their opponent was PDM.

the issue is establishment is not willing to accept defeat. there is too much animosity. maybe it needs to be IK who needs to come out and state that he unequivocally apologizes for all that happened, all the hate speech, and forgives everyone who came in the wway last 2 years and wants to move on for sake of country. prophet SAW forgave everyone at fath makkah.

the victory is done already. now something special needs to be done to actually get the outcome needed post the victory.

make the other party - establishment - feel they are not going to be targeted, they will be immune, etc, etc.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Latest update by ECP for General Elections 2024 results so far

 

[Bewal Express]

PTI must immediately go to court over Form 47s contradicting Form 45s and the irregularities in the elections. It's an open and shut case in favor of most of PTI's candidates. I hope that there's a judge in Pakistan that hasn't sold his soul.

They should be as IK said, these courts are themselves not free, how will they free me. And then there is Qazi. The corrupt Munafiq would blame IK

 

[Finisher]

 

[Hextro]

nothing happened in 2018 and nothing happen in 2024. If supreme court was fair, they would give them their symbol back

Perhaps. But it's worth a try.

I know that a few candidates were able to retrieve their seats.

Sources are saying that around 100 petitions are being filed against Form 47 tomorrow.

 

[Bewal Express]

also, the real victory / defeat is people vs establishment.
pti happened to be playing the match, it could have been anyone else on another time in history of the country.
and their opponent was PDM.

the issue is establishment is not willing to accept defeat. there is too much animosity. maybe it needs to be IK who needs to come out and state that he unequivocally apologizes for all that happened, all the hate speech, and forgives everyone who came in the wway last 2 years and wants to move on for sake of country. prophet SAW forgave everyone at fath makkah.

the victory is done already. now something special needs to be done to actually get the outcome needed post the victory.

make the other party - establishment - feel they are not going to be targeted, they will be immune, etc, etc.

He have said that he will forgive for crimes against him buy how can forgive these thugs for the murder of Arshad Sharif, Zille Shah and many others. If he does, many like me would ask what was the point of all the sacrifices. So the short answer is no

 

[Bewal Express]

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Which sounds about right.

 

[Bewal Express]

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And that is close to 2/3rd

 

[Hextro]

They should be as IK said, these courts are themselves not free, how will they free me. And then there is Qazi. The corrupt Munafiq would blame IK

If there's a chance to honor the people's rights, then PTI must take it. These votes matter more than the money that will be spent in the courts. PTI needs to apply pressure and keep pursuing a majority.

If PTI just lies down and does nothing then it'll be as if PTI themselves stole the people's votes. The public trusted them so now they have to take the lead.

 

[Hextro]

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This was the expected total. It completely shook the ECP which caused delays and manipulation of the results.

 

[Hextro]

Perhaps. But it's worth a try.

I know that a few candidates were able to retrieve their seats.

Sources are saying that around 100 petitions are being filed against Form 47 tomorrow.

Lahore, NA-128: Salman Akram Raja successfully gets a stay order from the Lahore High Court against Aun Chaudhry's victory. LHC orders open re-consolidation of the results.

 

[JaDed]

Its a good point.

But this strategy allows the establishment to present Pakistan as democratic which goes down well with western organisation, and they can hide and blame the 'elected' government when things go wrong.

They don’t care about democratic government, West has had best relationships with dictators even in Pakistan Zia and Ayubh were closer than Bhutto or IK

 

[Bewal Express]

They don’t care about democratic government, West has had best relationships with dictators even in Pakistan Zia and Ayubh were closer than Bhutto or IK

The West loves our Generals but their media the Generals are the bad guys. Its a rigged game

 

[cricketjoshila]

45 is the list of vote count from a polling station.

47 is the total of all the form 45s for the region.

Despite all the 45 being in favour of PTI and showing large votes...the totals in 47 are showing PMLN as winning.

Huh?

What sorcrery is this?

Atleast rig with some shame.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Its a good point.

But this strategy allows the establishment to present Pakistan as democratic which goes down well with western organisation, and they can hide and blame the 'elected' government when things go wrong.

Everyone knows this is a selected government.

But i am Astonished at the blatant disregard for rules and absolutely no attempt to hide the fraud.

 

[Kianig89]

So 233 finalised, 95 Ind, 138 PDM

Out of 95 IND, 35 are fake PTI IND

PDM+ on cards

 

[Red-Indian]

I'm an Indian and this election in Pakustan seems like the post emergency election in India. I'm not personally old enough to remember it but my dad who is a lifelong Congressman says it was the first and only time he voted against the Congress. The Grand Old Party lost in a landslide with even hardcore rural loyalists punishing it's excesses and the seeds sown in that election reaped the harvest of the multi-party democracy India is today. Everyone knew that the opposition was incompetent and unsuited to run a country but you just had to vote against such oppression.

Imran I think is similarly incompetent but if an educated Pakistani doesn't stand with him today, they are losing a real opportunity to remake the country. It's a very crucial crossroads for Pakistan as a nation and these come around only once a generation.

 

[Rana]

Reading that the Independents have 72 hours to join a party

Let’s see who joins who

 

[DeadlyVenom]

They don’t care about democratic government, West has had best relationships with dictators even in Pakistan Zia and Ayubh were closer than Bhutto or IK

I think getting funds from NGOs, Commonwealth and UN etc is easier if you are a 'democracy'.

So it suits the establishment to prop up candidates then dump them when things go wrong and the public wants answers.

 

[Major]

Reading that the Independents have 72 hours to join a party

Let’s see who joins who

they dont. 72 hours start when a gazzete notification is given

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Reading that the Independents have 72 hours to join a party

Let’s see who joins who

Asif Zardari must be licking his lips after hearing this news

 

[Rana]

Asif Zardari must be licking his lips after hearing this news

Lol like an IPL draft

 

[Rana]

So can the independent decide to join together as one party in 72 hours?

If not, people came out to vote just so that their votes were indirectly going to PMLN and PPP?

 

[Red-Indian]

I have to say though that if these elections are rigged (and I'm not saying they aren't), the Pakistani establishment is a lot more subtle and sophisticated than most credit it for.

Obviously rigged elections are the kind you'll see in Belarus where the dude apparently won over 90% of the vote.

This way, they get to have their cake and eat it too. They can say "what do you mean the elections are rigged. PTI's candidates emerged as the largest grouping. What can we do if they didn't get enough to form the government?"

Not that the West really cares but I guess it's good for the optics.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

So can the independent decide to join together as one party in 72 hours?

If not, people came out to vote just so that their votes were indirectly going to PMLN and PPP?

That was the plan!

This is the reason why they took the symbol of the bat from them. So they can only compete as independent candidates because under the party banner candidates are not allowed to engage in floor crossing. But now as independents they can.

So now get ready for the biggest horse tradding of the century!

 

[Rana]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1755945171970130329

This is basically’s PTI’s election campaign

 

[Lonewarrior]

latif khosa just said something interesting on tv , basically he said that IK could be free from jail in a day under the article 45 of the constitution of Pakistan by The order of the President of Pakistan .
but its not for sure .

 

[Major]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1755945171970130329

This is basically’s PTI’s election campaign

shameful stuff by PTI. THey cry aboit Jokhio but what about this?

 

[Rana]

So in 72 hours we will be witnessing a Raw v Smackdown type drafting? This ties in perfectly to Wrestlemania season

 

[Major]

That was the plan!

This is the reason why they took the symbol of the bat from them. So they can only compete as independent candidates because under the party banner candidates are not allowed to engage in floor crossing. But now as independents they can.

So now get ready for the biggest horse tradding of the century!

that is the fault of PTI than that they once again choose those people as there party representatives that can be sold out.

Lets see if all the MNA's of PTI stay at one side

 

[Rana]

shameful stuff by PTI. THey cry aboit Jokhio but what about this?

This is why I feel the Independents winning their elections is a Sham as well. You can make a donkey a Independent candidate and he is very likely to secure the votes over a seasoned PMLN or PPP politician

This isn’t democracy.

 

[Major]

So can the independent decide to join together as one party in 72 hours?

If not, people came out to vote just so that their votes were indirectly going to PMLN and PPP?

they can, but they still need a party to join. Any party with atleast 1 seat in NA

 

[Major]

This is why I feel the Independents winning their elections is a Sham as well. You can make a donkey a Independent candidate and he is very likely to secure the votes over a seasoned PMLN or PPP politician

This isn’t democracy.

well offcourse. People vote for the party not the person.

Are you based in USA or UK?

This is how it is n the UK.

But in USA the presidential election is different where you choose a representative that will vote for your presidential candidate.

Both sytems have pros and cons.

 

[Hextro]

This is why I feel the Independents winning their elections is a Sham as well. You can make a donkey a Independent candidate and he is very likely to secure the votes over a seasoned PMLN or PPP politician

This isn’t democracy.

If a donkey can get elected over a PMLN or PPP politician then it says more about the politician than it does about the donkey.

Getting elected via the public's vote is the definition of democracy. Please exercise your brain.

 

[mazkhan]

All eyes suddenly on PPP now. Which way they move.

This is where Imran Khan doesnt know how to play politics.

And this is the problem with imrans ego

He needs to stop being a perfectionist and play with the system

Due to his idiotic behaviour he burns bridges and in pakistan you have to have the canny ability to take everyone with you .

His approach of my way or the highway lack of compromising is his undoing

 

[Major]

If a donkey can get elected over a PMLN or PPP politician then it says more about the politician than it does about the donkey.

Getting elected via the public's vote is the definition of democracy. Please exercise your brain.

no need to get personal. He has a valid point

 

[Rana]

If a donkey can get elected over a PMLN or PPP politician then it says more about the politician than it does about the donkey.

Getting elected via the public's vote is the definition of democracy. Please exercise your brain.

Well, not it isn’t. Are you indirectly admitting that the election of that bigot who incited hatred against Minority worship places is a fair representation of democracy? Well if it is, I’m sorry but PTI is as bad if not worse than the PMLN or PPP who you people tell the world are wrong

 

[Major]

Meeting of Bilawal, Zardari, Shabaz and Ishaq dar taking place at Mohsin Naqvis house.

I wonder if they are discussing about Mohammad Rizwan @Rana

 

[kingusama92]

I don't know much about Pakistani politics.

Is this the most blatant rigging in Pakistan's history or is this common?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I don't know much about Pakistani politics.

Is this the most blatant rigging in Pakistan's history or is this common?

By far the biggest and most blatant rigging in Pakistan history

 

[Hextro]

no need to get personal. He has a valid point

What's the point he's trying to make? Don't tell me you guys are against criminals all of a sudden. The hypocrisy would be unparalleled if that is what you're trying to say.

We should stop the elections and let you two decide who gets elected. Try to make your statements sound sensible next time.

 

[Major]

I don't know much about Pakistani politics.

Is this the most blatant rigging in Pakistan's history or is this common?

common.

Has happened 5 times, 2018 was similar but with the victim and beneficiary being vice versa

 

[Rana]

no need to get personal. He has a valid point

Don’t ask them to go against what their party is built upon. That’s pretty well documented and highlighted by me.

 

[Major]

What's the point he's trying to make? Don't tell me you guys are against criminals all of a sudden. The hypocrisy would be unparalleled if that is what you're trying to say.

We should stop the elections and let you two decide who gets elected. Try to make your statements sound sensible next time.

So you validate the PTI candidate?

 

[zn426]

The sophistication comes from only rigging one region and not being dumb enough to try and rig in places like KPK where you know PML-N and PPP have zero chance at beating PTI.
Even with that, this has to be a giant egg on the face of the entire PDM grifter movement. This is going to get dragged into court, and all now the PTI-backed independents have to do is produce the Form 45s and we can sit back and enjoy PPP and PML-N getting smacked around by a bunch of nobodies who had no party symbol, no real coordinated party effort, no real campaign, and still managed to win an election.
They couldn't beat these nobodies with supposed veteran candidates like Nawaz, Maryam, and so on. Having Rehana Dar winning until the votes "got updated" overnight against Asif was hilarious. Imagine getting beaten by a 70-year-old woman with nothing but a chappal and a crusade.

Of course, getting to that point is a bigger issue. You know that the military and the PDM goons have been harassing PTI and PTI's independent candidates. They will be out for blood, to get rid of the winning candidates who were defrauded of their seat in NA and to destroy the Form 45s.

 

[Rana]

Meeting of Bilawal, Zardari, Shabaz and Ishaq dar taking place at Mohsin Naqvis house.

I wonder if they are discussing about Mohammad Rizwan @Rana

Well that’s also a PTI planted tool that they need to scourge out of the system that’s for sure

 

[kingusama92]

By far the biggest and most blatant rigging in Pakistan history

common.

Has happened 5 times, 2018 was similar but with the victim and beneficiary being vice versa

Interesting and quite depressing for the average Pakistani voter.

Naturally you would assume this leads to massive protests, but that's easier said behind a computer screen than in real life. If it's been a constant issue then I would assume the voters will take it lying down again.

Quite unfortunate and shows democracies only work when the core institutions are strong.

 

[Hextro]

Well, not it isn’t. Are you indirectly admitting that the election of that bigot who incited hatred against Minority worship places is a fair representation of democracy?

Do you know anything about Pakistani politics? Do you want me to take you to the gruesome depths of PMLN and PPP's history? Inciting hatred would seem like child's play compared to most of the stuff those two have done.

All I'm asking is that you educate yourself.

Well if it is, I’m sorry but PTI is as bad if not worse than the PMLN or PPP who you people tell the world are wrong

Then why are you using both those as alternatives?

This is why I feel the Independents winning their elections is a Sham as well. You can make a donkey a Independent candidate and he is very likely to secure the votes over a seasoned PMLN or PPP politician

This isn’t democracy.

Have started following Pakistani politics just yesterday? There are 30+ years' worth of reasons why a donkey would get elected over a PDMer. And rightfully so.

 

[Rana]

Do you know anything about Pakistani politics? Do you want me to take you to the gruesome depths of PMLN and PPP's history? Inciting hatred would seem like child's play compared to most of the stuff those two have done.

All I'm asking is that you educate yourself.



Then why are you using both those as alternatives?



Have started following Pakistani politics just yesterday? There are 30+ years' worth of reasons why a donkey would get elected over a PDMer. And rightfully so.

Yeah I agree with you

No wonder it seems donkeys are getting preferred over PDMers

 

[Major]

Do you know anything about Pakistani politics? Do you want me to take you to the gruesome depths of PMLN and PPP's history? Inciting hatred would seem like child's play compared to most of the stuff those two have done.

All I'm asking is that you educate yourself.



Then why are you using both those as alternatives?



Have started following Pakistani politics just yesterday? There are 30+ years' worth of reasons why a donkey would get elected over a PDMer. And rightfully so.

again, he is making a valid point, which is why in countries like USA the system is different.

I dont have issues with the parliamentary system, but both arguments have its pros and cons.

 

[Hextro]

So you validate the PTI candidate?

No, things aren't black and white. I'll have to check history but if he is indeed a criminal, then I wouldn't about how wins in that constituency because both the guys going up against one another are criminals. The only difference is that there is a greater representation of said criminals in PDM compared to PTI.

Do you validate Jam Abdul Karim Bijar? I just wanna check something.

 

[Rana]

Khwaja Asif losing the election against some Granny

Makes absolutely no sense. The guy (KA) eats, breathes, drinks, farts politics for a lifestyle. These guys losing to unknowns is a joke IMO

 

[Hextro]

Yeah I agree with you

No wonder it seems donkeys are getting preferred over PDMers

You have to sympathize with the people. Can you imagine being so desperate that you'd vote for anything other than the monsters that have been ruling over you for decades?

This is less of an election and more of a hostage situation.

 

[Major]

rumours are PMLN and PPP are making a coalition

 

[Hextro]

Khwaja Asif losing the election against some Granny

Makes absolutely no sense. The guy (KA) eats, breathes, drinks, farts politics for a lifestyle. These guys losing to unknowns is a joke IMO

This is the first time she has ever contested in an election. The only reason why she is competing is because na maloom afrads came into her son's house and tortured/beat him. And now she's beating one of PMLN's most seasoned politicians.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

rumours are PMLN and PPP are making a coalition

RIP Pakistan

 

[Rana]

You have to sympathize with the people. Can you imagine being so desperate that you'd vote for anything other than the monsters that have been ruling over you for decades?

This is less of an election and more of a hostage situation.

Can you explain what kind of monstrosity or enslavement the people of Pakistan have faced by these two parties? It’s easy to just say these things as if Pakistan is like Iran or Afghanistan that doesn’t allow flexibility in expressing yourself….but what has the PDM and PPP done to the people of Pakistan where they are desperate for freedom like the Iranians or the Afghans?

 

[Rana]

No, things aren't black and white. I'll have to check history but if he is indeed a criminal, then I wouldn't about how wins in that constituency because both the guys going up against one another are criminals. The only difference is that there is a greater representation of said criminals in PDM compared to PTI.

Do you validate Jam Abdul Karim Bijar? I just wanna check something.

What a joke of a response

Why didn’t you contest as an independent? You talk the right talk for this role

 

[Markhor]

Its a good point.

But this strategy allows the establishment to present Pakistan as democratic which goes down well with western organisation, and they can hide and blame the 'elected' government when things go wrong.

This. They want power without responsibility.

If only they spent as much effort on their actual job of defending the nation's borders and safeguarding its security as they do putting their thumb on the political scales, investing money in property and businesses for personal enrichment, and ruthlessly cracking down on dissenters.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So in 72 hours we will be witnessing a Raw v Smackdown type drafting? This ties in perfectly to Wrestlemania season

Its a draft or is it an auction?

 

[cricketjoshila]

What is this rule that independent must join a party. Whats the meaning of Independent candidate then.

 

[adi_62941]

latif khosa just said something interesting on tv , basically he said that IK could be free from jail in a day under the article 45 of the constitution of Pakistan by The order of the President of Pakistan .
but its not for sure .

Yes he said that. And i think PTI is planning something before dentonic president completes his term. It will be a massive again!!

 

[YousafTheBeast]

this is getting boring now tbf, call in the Sri Lankan’s and they’ll show you how to fight back.

 

[Bewal Express]

Can you explain what kind of monstrosity or enslavement the people of Pakistan have faced by these two parties? It’s easy to just say these things as if Pakistan is like Iran or Afghanistan that doesn’t allow flexibility in expressing yourself….but what has the PDM and PPP done to the people of Pakistan where they are desperate for freedom like the Iranians or the Afghans?

So you have not seen the elections over the last 24 hours. Have you not seen the murder, torture, kidnappings and mayhem over the last 2 years. Have you not seen the destruction of our courts( which were never great before but today are a total shambles) where a CJP is owned by the mafia, look at the Police, is it Police or a private mafia? And I could go on and on.

 

[adi_62941]

This time, we have a very cunning COAS, Asim, who is playing politics like a pro. They have already sidelined IK; now PMLN and PPPP, together with independents, will form the government, and it will be the weakest government. The military might take some extreme steps to eliminate IK once and for all, as they have already provided a chance to the Pakistani public to vote for him. Many seats were rigged in favor of PMLN and also for PTI. The winning of Khoosa is very suspicious.

They have selected only those prominent PMLN candidates who are really close to Shahbaz Sharif, while all those close to NS were neglected, like Rana Sana, Shair Ali, Tanveer, Lateef Khoosa, Khawaja Saad, etc.

NS might get the shock of his life within a few months, as he will be discarded like a used paper, and Shahbaz will take his place, or Bilawal might become PM after some years

 

[Bewal Express]

rumours are PMLN and PPP are making a coalition

2.0 to keep them out of jail and keep Munir and friends happy and also keep them out jail and the noose.

 

[Bewal Express]

Khwaja Asif losing the election against some Granny

Makes absolutely no sense. The guy (KA) eats, breathes, drinks, farts politics for a lifestyle. These guys losing to unknowns is a joke IMO

So you think he didn't lose.

 

[adi_62941]

The future looks very bleak for Pakistan and its people as it happened as per the plan of establishment. PMLN demanded clear majority but they gave them less than half seats making it difficult for them to breath and remain safe. Now the government will always be on ventilator and anytime establishment can replace them with IK (very unlikely) or with someone xyz.
Establishment is part of a system and very difficult to defeat them. Its needs a complete revolution to topple them or political parties joins hand and take firm stand against them to avoid any of their confrontation in politics