Pakistan v Australia | 1st Test | 25/10/2014 | Dubai (DSC) l Day 4

[Dr_Bassim]

And it's not about the lead I think.

Waqar was saying yesterday that they wanted 450.

First of all they are not getting 450 from 250 in one session.

Secondly, even if they get 400 plus at tea, they will not declare because rarely Pakistan change their strategy.

Strategy is to bat for 1 hour after tea and then give aus 10-15 overs before the close today.

 

[Bullet Drive]

True. And it would be the dumbest thing to do on this flat road against a team like Australia. Pakistan cannot get 10 wickets in 3 sessions. but they are trying to make sure they either draw or win not lose. This

Misbah for you.

 

[Hawkeye]

31.

It's a great change that a Misbah fan is complaining about slow rr. [MENTION=131789]GreenKnightRises[/MENTION]

You should see [MENTION=56866]Bullet Drive[/MENTION] today man

Imagine if Misbah was batting in place of Shehzad... he would've spammed this thread with posts criticizing him...

 

[Bullet Drive]

We are still very much favorites to win this because we are in a great position, but were aren't making life any easier for ourselves.

Nobody is expecting Shehzad to bat like Warner, but at least he should be maintaining a strike rate of 50-55 throughout the innings. If you cannot do that in Test cricket or bat at 75-80 in ODIs (throughout the innings, not by hitting out at the end after batting at 65 for 80 deliveries) without taking unnecessary risks, you really don't bring much value to the team other than boosting your personal statistics.

Did you watch Hashim Amla during this current SA-NZ ODI series?

 

[AZ]

True. And it would be the dumbest thing to do on this flat road against a team like Australia. Pakistan cannot get 10 wickets in 3 sessions. but they are trying to make sure they either draw or win not lose. This

we bowled out Aussies in 70-odd overs on Day 3, you think we can't do it on a Day 5 pitch with a mammoth target and a crumbling wicket?

 

[JibranAnsari]

Well i have seen many hard headed batsmen who just never improve so thats a learning curve that deserves credit.

Maybe hes always good against mediocre spinners.

 

[Mamoon]

Did you watch Hashim Amla during this current SA-NZ ODI series?

Yes, why?

 

[Bullet Drive]

To people saying:

'BD would be criticising Misbah if he was batting like Shehzad'

1) Shehzad is 22. Misbah is 40. 18 years diff. Misbah has always been the same and won't learn. Shehzad will improve.

2) This is the approach given from management and Misbah to Shehzad and Shehzad has done it well.

 

[Mamoon]

I'm really getting nervous.

Don't have a good feeling about this.

If we don't win this match well it is unthinkable.

 

[Kashmiri_Pak_fan]

this must b managements plan to score at this rate

 

[Bullet Drive]

Maybe hes always good against mediocre spinners.

Has a test century against Herath so WRONG!

 

[MRSN]

Check my corrected post



According to this, we're not too slow and if we properly accelerate, should get to 400 lead and give them 30 overs to bat today.

in the first 24 overs we had 71 runs on the board and in the next 24 overs we haven't even put 50 runs when we should have been accelerating. This is poor cricket from Pakistan.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Score 400 is not that safe when we have inexperience bowlers. Better to be safe!!! Australia can afford to declare at 350 not us.

Hope we get to 400 in the last session with 20 overs to spare.

 

[Bullet Drive]

I'm really getting nervous.

Don't have a good feeling about this.

If we don't win this match well it is unthinkable.

But I thought you said AUS would win both tests? So a draw would be good no?

Or have you changed your mind..... AGAIN?

 

[Red Devil]

I'm pretty sure they'll up the ante after lunch, people need to relax.

 

[AZ]

I'm really getting nervous.

Don't have a good feeling about this.

If we don't win this match well it is unthinkable.

dude relax, we will win.

it will take a couple of Aussies to play the knock of their lives to chase down 400 on the last day, and they don't have that kind of batting lineup here.

 

[saiyan0312]

Maybe hes always good against mediocre spinners.

No i have seen him get out to straighter bowls or get bogged down against spin. Was horror to watch but he has improved to the level that he can take on a few decent spinners on a flat track. Thats an improvement. I am pretty sure a world class spinner will take him out on such a track though. He has improved but not that much.

 

[Bullet Drive]

20 min left.

 

[Mamoon]

We need to give Australia a target of 400 and around 4 sessions to bowl them out.

So for the next 30 overs, we need to bat at around 5. We could have made things easier for us by showing a little more urgency.

 

[Bullet Drive]

No i have seen him get out to straighter bowls or get bogged down against spin. Was horror to watch but he has improved to the level that he can take on a few decent spinners on a flat track. Thats an improvement. I am pretty sure a world class spinner will take him out on such a track though. He has improved but not that much.

Test ton v Herath

 

[MRSN]

this must b managements plan to score at this rate

the captain wasn't looking too happy when the players were walking back to dressing room..wonder what that means?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Management hasn't planned any rate for me.

Pakistani management is too thick to have any plan on RR or time to increase the pace.

They probably decided to save wickets till lunch, go faster post lunch, and declare 1 hour after tea.

RR , possibility of increasing the pace, changing the momentum, when to attack ; these things are not discussed in team management. Probably they discuss the color of "chai" and the taste of "biryani"

 

[Bullet Drive]

Similarly, I dont mind Shehzad going at a same rate as Misbah because Shehzad actually scores hundreds whilst Misbah throws his wicket away. I'm sure [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] will agree.

 

[Red Devil]

the captain wasn't looking too happy when the players were walking back to dressing room..wonder what that means?

He probably wasn't happy because of that six by Younis

 

[saiyan0312]

I'm pretty sure they'll up the ante after lunch, people need to relax.

Yaar i used to be extremely confident in our chances and added the unpredictability factor as well bu recently seeing our blunder i wont be sure unless we win this.

 

[Bullet Drive]

the captain wasn't looking too happy when the players were walking back to dressing room..wonder what that means?

Probably means we played too quick knowing Misbah

 

[Mehran07]

Younis SR 54
Shehzad SR 36.

 

[Mamoon]

But I thought you said AUS would win both tests? So a draw would be good no?

Or have you changed your mind..... AGAIN?

A draw would be a good result for our inept team against Australia but NOT from this situation. Snatching a draw/loss when you have the win in the bag is a terrible feeling, no matter what the opposition. Let us not forget how we got hammered in the ODI series with your youngsta beauties flopping, so it is time for some payback now and we aren't making things easier for us at all.

 

[battler]

Horrible batting by shehzad.
He needs to accelerate and accelerate quick.

 

[Mamoon]

Similarly, I dont mind Shehzad going at a same rate as Misbah because Shehzad actually scores hundreds whilst Misbah throws his wicket away. I'm sure [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] will agree.

That is his one redeeming quality IMO.

 

[Arsal_AK]

I'm really getting nervous.

Don't have a good feeling about this.

If we don't win this match well it is unthinkable.

We will win.Relax.

 

[Mamoon]

dude relax, we will win.

it will take a couple of Aussies to play the knock of their lives to chase down 400 on the last day, and they don't have that kind of batting lineup here.

They can't chase this down unless Warner plays the innings of his life, but let us not rule out a draw. We need 120 overs minimum to dislodge them.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Jamshed looking good..

 

[Mamoon]

Rogers would be the prize scalp in the 4th innings. His tuk tuk puts Misbah and Shehzad to shame.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

YK and Sarfraz should be batting here. I'm sure they can score runs quickly as long as they bat until the last session. Its almost like Pakistan are trying to avoid losing first before trying to win. Quite defensive IMO.

 

[Bullet Drive]

A draw would be a good result for our inept team against Australia but NOT from this situation. Snatching a draw/loss when you have the win in the bag is a terrible feeling, no matter what the opposition. Let us not forget how we got hammered in the ODI series with your youngsta beauties flopping, so it is time for some payback now and we aren't making things easier for us at all.

My youngsta beauties?

 

[Bullet Drive]

Rogers would be the prize scalp in the 4th innings. His tuk tuk puts Misbah and Shehzad to shame.

Dont hate on a guy who has 70 fc tons

 

[Arsal_AK]

Sarfraz should come in next,followed by Asad.No need of Misbah for now.

 

[Bullet Drive]

To make people more upset enjoy this pic:

 

[Mamoon]

My youngsta beauties?

Umar and Shehzad failed big time.

 

[Mamoon]

Needs to get rid of the unibrow.

 

[Red Devil]

Yaar i used to be extremely confident in our chances and added the unpredictability factor as well bu recently seeing our blunder i wont be sure unless we win this.

The reason we're playing so slow is obviously to make sure that we don't collapse, and so far it has worked. Now they can afford to slowly quicken the pace of the innings without any risk of collapsing.

 

[MRSN]

we bowled out Aussies in 70-odd overs on Day 3, you think we can't do it on a Day 5 pitch with a mammoth target and a crumbling wicket?

the first innings was a different game they played couple of loose shots, one was run out and there were some good balls too but in the second innings if they have to chase 400+ with 3 sessions and half I don't think they are really going to play those loose shots again. They know the only thing Aus can get out of this game is draw and they will tuk tuk as much as possible.

What if they manage to draw the game with 8-9 wickets down? Time is vital imo and the more time Pakistan has to 10 wickets the greater chance of win. That's why they need to bat them straight after tea.

 

[Bullet Drive]

This is the man who makes your lives sad

 

[Mamoon]

Not hating, but he is way too hard to dismiss.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Umar and Shehzad failed big time.

That was because Umar Akmal was sent at the wrong position.. had the wrong aura .. and management told him to play slow..

Don't you know that?

 

[Bullet Drive]

Umar and Shehzad failed big time.

Shehzad hardly failed.

Nor did Umar. Played well in first game. Pitch got him in second and dropped for third.

 

[Mamoon]

And he was affected by Keeping.

Oh wait.

 

[Bullet Drive]

That was because Umar Akmal was sent at the wrong position.. had the wrong aura .. and management told him to play slow..

Don't you know that?

After 5 years on this forum you still haven't posted something without sarcasm.

Not funny at all.

Very immature

 

[Bullet Drive]

And he was affected by Keeping.

Oh wait.

Still scored more then Misbah #BOOOOM!

 

[Red Devil]

Younis SR 54
Shehzad SR 36.

This is Test cricket bro, go watch IPL or something

 

[Mamoon]

1 50 in 3 games and a 40 in 2 matches is definitely a failure for two young batsmen with world class potential.

Pitch got to him.

)

 

[Mamoon]

Misbah is 40 and past his prime, Umar is young and full of ability and potential. Use that logic here as well.

 

[saiyan0312]

Test ton v Herath

so? great innings yeah

Doesnt he have an ODI ton against srilanka as well but the thing i have seen nearly all of his innings since his comeback and he has always horrible against spin apart from this test. your future saeed anwar actually has a massive flaw and if he doesnt improve it then he will end up becoming a liability on turning pitches. So far he has shown a learning curve but that doesnt mean he is a sanga against spin. So far he has just improved from his horror position which is good as improvement is always a good sign.

Plus he better start getting consistent as well. We have many inconsistent test openers bit what we seek is a consistent one.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Sadly two of the most hated people on PP:

 

[Mamoon]

This is Test cricket bro, go watch IPL or something

36 is too low for Tests as well. You need to bat around 50.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

After 5 years on this forum you still haven't posted something without sarcasm.

Not funny at all.

Very immature

If you can post in threads like Sachin Tendulkar vs Umar Akmal and say POTW for such a thread creator , you in no position to criticize my sarcasm.

 

[Bullet Drive]

so? great innings yeah

Doesnt he have an ODI ton against srilanka as well but the thing i have seen nearly all of his innings since his comeback and he has always horrible against spin apart from this test. your future saeed anwar actually has a massive flaw and if he doesnt improve it then he will end up becoming a liability on turning pitches. So far he has shown a learning curve but that doesnt mean he is a sanga against spin. So far he has just improved from his horror position which is good as improvement is always a good sign.

Plus he better start getting consistent as well. We have many inconsistent test openers bit what we seek is a consistent one.

Once again immature.

Once I see something like this I don't even read the rest of your post.

Usually a quality poster.

 

[Mamoon]

Shehzad is a known Afridi bootlicker.

There is no hope for him if he gets inspired by clowns. He is a little confused actually, he models himself on the clown but follows the batting approach of Misbah.

 

[Bullet Drive]

If you can post in threads like Sachin Tendulkar vs Umar Akmal and say POTW for such a thread creator , you in no position to criticize my sarcasm.

That was no sarcasm.

Akmal and Tendulkar had similar stats.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Shehzad is a known Afridi bootlicker.

There is no hope for him if he gets inspired by clowns. He is a little confused actually, he models himself on the clown but follows the batting approach of Misbah.

Shows he's a very adaptable guy

 

[Mamoon]

Then why doesn't he adapt to different situations and does tuk tuk all the time?

Pacing innings is as important as the strike rate at the end of the game. He starts way too slowly and consumes far too many dot balls.

 

[saiyan0312]

The reason we're playing so slow is obviously to make sure that we don't collapse, and so far it has worked. Now they can afford to slowly quicken the pace of the innings without any risk of collapsing.

Well lets hope they implement it fully. increasing the run rate doesnt always result in wickets. you see to reach 400 now we have to go at 4.43 atleast in the session to reach the target bcz the previous one we were struggling to keep it at 2. Could have made life easier but lets hope thy pull it off.

 

[Aman]

lol BD having getting over excited over a 50 against a toothless Aus attack on a phatta (Aussie spinners aren't good enough to make use of the turn on offer) )

 

[Dr_Bassim]

That was no sarcasm.

Akmal and Tendulkar had similar stats.

But one was striking centuries against likes of Wasim and Waqar, and other was slogging and getting lucky.

Yet you called it a brilliant post and wanted it post of the Week.

 

[Bullet Drive]

The main man

 

[Asif321]

Draw wont be acceptable we need victory at any cost

 

[Red Devil]

36 is too low for Tests as well. You need to bat around 50.

There are still 150+ overs remaining in this match, he can afford to play at this rate. Plus I'm sure he'll play much quicker in the post lunch session. His innings made sure that we don't collapse, which happens all the time.

 

[Bullet Drive]

But one was striking centuries against likes of Wasim and Waqar, and other was slogging and getting lucky.

Yet you called it a brilliant post and wanted it post of the Week.

cant get lucky and match Tendulkar

A slogger who gets lucky is an Awais Zia

 

[Mamoon]

lol BD having getting over excited over a 50 against a toothless Aus attack on a phatta (Aussie spinners aren't good enough to make use of the turn on offer) )

At a strike rate of 37. Some dreadfully low standards for a guy who will be a world wide legend.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Back to Shehzads great knock....

 

[SL_Fan]

Pak well and truly in the box seat now. Aus are no good at just hanging around so they will play their shots. Huge chance for Pak to go one up in the series. Around 50 overs left in the day so should send in Sarfraz next to up the ante a bit. Set a 375-400 target and have a go at Aus for 20 or so overs today.

 

[Mamoon]

Who has matched Tendu?

 

[Mamoon]

There still 150+ overs remaining in this match, he can afford to play at this rate. Plus I'm sure he'll play much quicker in the post lunch session. His innings made sure that we don't collapse, which happens all the time.

I'm getting super nervous here.

 

[Bullet Drive]

lol BD having getting over excited over a 50 against a toothless Aus attack on a phatta (Aussie spinners aren't good enough to make use of the turn on offer) )

You should focus on your own team and how they are losing in own back yard.

2-0 now yeah

 

[Arsal_AK]

lol BD having getting over excited over a 50 against a toothless Aus attack on a phatta (Aussie spinners aren't good enough to make use of the turn on offer) )

Yes, now its toothless. Keep it coming.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

cant get lucky and match Tendulkar

A slogger who gets lucky is an Awais Zia

You can.

How far is he from Tendulkar now?

That's why context is important.

Like Shehzad is playing well against average spinners today.

But I still don't think he is good against good spinners.

 

[saiyan0312]

Once again immature.

Once I see something like this I don't even read the rest of your post.

Usually a quality poster.

Ok fair enough. i shouldnt have posted that.

you know he has a weakness against spin correct. You have watched as as much as i have correct? eevry match since his come back. The thing is that he has a massive flaw that needs to be rectified or else he will end up becoming a liability on any turning pitch However he has shown improvement from his previous horror levels. that doesnt mean that we will see him play like lara but it means that he has improvement but what he must do is improve on that improvement and increase his learning curve plus he needs to become consistent. TBH apart from the slowness of his knock he has looked assured and tackled spinners well which is a good sign.

 

[Sam18696]

The main man

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It's really disturbing how you keep all of these pics of Shehzad.

 

[Bullet Drive]

So majority of PP want Shehzad out yeah?