Mamoon
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Will take Moeen bhai to the cleaners now.
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Well Hafeez has opened all his career but it does not mean he can play swing. Compared to the best batsmen of his generation, Younis is nowhere near th
He is not in the class of the four best Test batsmen of his generation - Sangakkara, Amla bhai, Pietersen and de Villiers. His comparison with Clarke is debatable as well, that is why he is not counted among the greats.
Younis averages 54 .. Hafeez in the 30s.
What a strange strange argument
I meant in terms of the review, Malik should have told him he was out and not to waste a reviewHe's played too much cricket to need someone to calm his nerves in the middle.
Well Hafeez has opened all his career but it does not mean he can play swing. Compared to the best batsmen of his generation, Younis is nowhere near th
He is not in the class of the four best Test batsmen of his generation - Sangakkara, Amla bhai, Pietersen and de Villiers. His comparison with Clarke is debatable as well, that is why he is not counted among the greats.
A bit of Exaggeration... I think hes in the top 5 test batsmen in the world currently esp after sangas retirement. Although as i hate his his off field antics and the fact that he played more than 50 odis..
who will beat YKs record now
who will beat YKs record now
You truly have gone bonkers due to your love for Malik. Yousuf, Inzi, Amla, Kallis and Clarke, during his peak, were/are all good to great players of swing bowling. There are countless examples available but instead of looking at individual innings, go check their records in places like England, South Africa and New Zealand.
Azhar ali, haris sohail or babar azam i think.
Shezzi/Asad/Babar/haris
who will beat YKs record now
KP Is too inconsistent to be in the same group as Sanga Amla and AB.
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Azhar ali, haris sohail or babar azam i think.
Yep the top 3 contenders. Think Haris will miss out due to his fitness though.
I meant in terms of the review, Malik should have told him he was out and not to waste a review
I could care less how Younis looks. He goes out there and gets the job done.
Runs everywhere, against all kinds of bowling while batting at three for a large part of his career.(Averages over 50 at that position)
Yet he is not good against pace.![]()
In Test cricket, Sangakkara is the best of his generation, but Amla bhai is in his class. After that it's Pietersen and then de Villiers, Clarke and Younis.
It is a reflection of their overall careers not just peaks - Except Younis, all of them at some point in their careers have been the best Test batsman around.
He can survive pace in his own way, but he lacks the ability to assert dominance over a pacer, and he can't 'strike back' after getting beaten. There's a reason he's an ODI TTF.
You need to revisit those runs. It didn't come in swinging conditions; in fact, 2006 was a very batting friendly summer in the UK, and the weather was quite dry. I was there pretty much the entire summer.
and in Australia, he has failed to score a hundred. He is not an accomplished player of pace and that's why he ranks below his peers like Sangakkara, Amla bhai, de Villiers and even Clarke.
Ultimately his legacy is of a Test batsman who wasn't even in the top 3/4 of his generation.
In Test cricket, Sangakkara is the best of his generation, but Amla bhai is in his class. After that it's Pietersen and then de Villiers, Clarke and Younis.
It is a reflection of their overall careers not just peaks - Except Younis, all of them at some point in their careers have been the best Test batsman around.
Azhar and Asad can get close but they need a great peak. 2-3 years of 60+ average.
Next 3-4 years should be interesting.
Younis destroying Moeen bhai, sad day for the Ummah.
Azhar and Asad can get close but they need a great peak. 2-3 years of 60+ average.
Next 3-4 years should be interesting.
Amla and de Villiers are the best test batsmen of this era. Sanga bullied the minnows too much and his record outside the subcontinent left a lot to be desired.
Younis comes fourth, ahead of also-rans like Clarke, Pietersen and Cook.
Cannot see anyone placing YK over kp and Clarke. And cook by the time he is done will be above them all
Dravid never dominated the pacers either, neither did Kallis or Gavasker. He more than makes up for it by eating the opposing spinners alive.
You are kidding yourself if you believe that Clarke features anywhere near Younis or any of the other bats you mentioned. He was a HTB who couldn't even end his career with an average of 50+. Not a great batsman.
Being the third/fourth best batsman of his era is nothing to be ashamed of. Dravid was fourth best of his era, Miandad was probably third or fourth best too.
I don't recall how the conditions were during our 2006 series but Younis can only score on the pitches that he's given. He's done superbly in England, was good in Australia and recently scored a century against Steyn and co in South Africa.
Hafeez has also opened all his career but that does not mean he is good against the new ball. Younis is comfortably below the great batsmen of his generation against pace. Lacks the ability to dominate them, he's in survival-mode all the time.
Cannot see anyone placing YK over kp and Clarke. And cook by the time he is done will be above them all
Babar can because of his age. Plus hes already a better batsman that shehzad. Babar can honestly get 10k+ also haris because of his tendency to score in every game. No doubt its close between these 4
Amla and de Villiers are the best test batsmen of this era. Sanga bullied the minnows too much and his record outside the subcontinent left a lot to be desired.
Younis comes fourth, ahead of also-rans like Clarke, Pietersen and Cook.
Cannot see anyone placing YK over kp and Clarke. And cook by the time he is done will be above them all
Yeah, but can you really call him weak against pace? He might not dominate pace bowlers but he's fairly comfortable against them. He's simply phenomenal against spin but that doesn't mean he has to be equally good against pace too.
Its ludicrous to call someone weak against pace when he averages above 50 at number 3.![]()
Younis destroying Moeen bhai, sad day for the Ummah.
You clearly haven't visited the Younis vs KP thread. Clarke doesn't even feature in the discussion, like I said. His numbers do not hold up to the other great batsmen of this era and he doesn't have the flash of de Villiers or KP to make up for it.
Yeah, but can you really call him weak against pace? He might not dominate pace bowlers but he's fairly comfortable against them. He's simply phenomenal against spin but that doesn't mean he has to equally good against pace too.
Its ludicrous to call someone weak against pace when he averages above 50 at number 3.![]()
I expect a few more nauseating me me me type interviews end of play today.
What has Babar done in the FC level remotely to suggest that he can surpass Younis? He has been good in List A that's it.
Actual realisation is better than perceived potential he has not shown consistency in his FC career so far he has been out for a duck in the qualifying match going on.
Come on people hold your horses people thought Umar Akmal would be the next big thing he is not even in the team.
Well Inzamam did get close!![]()
Younis destroying Moeen bhai, sad day for the Ummah.
I expect a few more nauseating me me me type interviews end of play today.
sir, delusions have no limits. He is Misbah fan after all.
Sanga is miles ahead of YK as well.
Younis has been good in Test cricket because he realises his limitations if he cannot play pace he does not get out to them either that's why we can all rave about Umar Akmal's ability to play pace and be dominant in overseas but to succeed you need to have a brain and if you do not have it you unfortunately can't cut it.
He has played within his limitations so well which none of our other good Batsmen were able to do.
Ok tell me what have azhar ali and shafiq done in first class. Both only have good list a stats