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Pakistan lacks effective all rounders. All of them tried , but not good . Better stick with 5 bowlers and work on there batting.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Lol youre saying the same about babar too
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Babar has to prove he is not an Akmal. So far my predictions about his career have been correct. He is an Akmal by performance. One good performance does not hide his bad ones.
And he is an opener so no excuses failing the top order.
 
Pakistan dont even try to get wickets with the mew ball. Their openers dont try to score runs in tje opening 10 overs and bowlers dont try to get wickets in the first 10. Pathetic approach overall.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Look how well england openers rotating the strike, wait till later when Shezzy and Azhar eat up dot balls galore.
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Azhar isn't even 10th of a batsman Shehzad is. AA has been asked to do a job which is beyond his talent, skill and comfort levels, tbh he doesn't even merit his place as a batsman let alone a captain in ODI side. Can foresee him stripped off his captaincy and ODI spot if he doesn't deliver today but I don't blame him to be honest, this isn't something he's well equipped to.
 
Bowling average 55..strike rate 55..but leads the bowling attack for Pakistan!! :14:
 
Justcrazy said:
Babaar , haaris etc are average at best , no way world beaters.
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We dont produce world beaters anymore but they are the best we have. Compare their strike rotating ability with azhar and shehzad and you see the difference and mind you shehzad is getting worse at strike rotation with every passing day. Babar might improve with time as he has abilty and has a good footwork. Haris is good against new ball.
 
Irfan's pace in his 3rd over :

132 , 133 , 137 , 128 , 137 , 127

# Finished

He was more quick than this when he made debut in 2010. Then he was dropped and came back as a 145+kph bowler.
 
we need a more potent new ball pairing then irfan and Anwar Ali.

england setting a good platform early on

Eng 26/0
 
Anwar Ali should thank his stars that all the shots are being saved by some good fielding.
 
11ShadyBrothers said:
So a part time bowler in zafar is better than yasir in ODIs? Goes on to show how good yasir is in ODIs, doesnt it?
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When has Yasir played Odi's consistently? He's a fantastic bowler underused because he bowls alot in Test matches and is given a rest in Odis.
 
Passionate Observer said:
Azhar isn't even 10th of a batsman Shehzad is. AA has been asked to do a job which is beyond his talent, skill and comfort levels, tbh he doesn't even merit his place as a batsman let alone a captain in ODI side. Can foresee him stripped off his captaincy and ODI spot if he doesn't deliver today but I don't blame him to be honest, this isn't something he's well equipped to.
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I agree on part that AA shouldnt be in the team, a player does indeed need to be in side on merit 1st and then you decide your captain, its a problemn pakistan needs to resolve quickly by changing captain and dropping AA or he steps up his game all of a sudden, indeed hes hogging a place to top of order he doesnt deserve on merit.
 
Whats the point of bringing Wahab into the attack within 10 overs when u wont open with him at first place?
 
Wahab on early due to pathetic bowling which has taken place before.
 
What's so good about Anwar Ali talking the new ball ??

He should bowl in the middle with the keeper up and have defensive fields if he is going to play.

But he's not a strike bowler so it's just bizarre having him as an opening bowler.
 
zabalestmsm said:
Your new character is quite interesting ha ha! Carry on :D
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I dont think a bowler who is 5' 4 in height will be successful in any format let alone limited overs cricket.
He is too short to actually make a difference with his bowling.
He already gets only knee height bounce.
Hales was tonking him around every over.
 
unlucky, streaky shot past the stumps! those are worst once for a bowler!
 
90MPH said:
What's so good about Anwar Ali talking the new ball ??

He should bowl in the middle with the keeper up and have defensive fields if he is going to play.

But he's not a strike bowler so it's just bizarre having him as an opening bowler.
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Because we have a strategy of trying to keep it tight with the new ball rather than actually trying to pick up wickets, mostly, and at the end of the day we can do neither.
 
All these excuses to justify Babar's failures are cringe-worthy. A quality player adjusts to a position assigned to him, 2 chances at the top were more than enough to show his talent and potential being an opener in domestic which he didn't. Hence he's reverted back to the middle order, no point in crying about it.
 
waleed88 said:
I dont think a bowler who is 5' 4 in height will be successful in any format let alone limited overs cricket.
He is too short to actually make a difference with his bowling.
He already gets only knee height bounce.
Hales was tonking him around every over.
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One of the reasons of my support for Bilal Asif!
 
Abdullah719 said:
Because we have a strategy of trying to keep it tight with the new ball rather than actually trying to pick up wickets, mostly, and at the end of the day we can do neither.
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Well Waqar has to take responsibility for that as its a really poor strategy.
 
I hope our openers are watching this strike rotation. Tuk tuk is for the nets
 
England well set to post something around 300 which is more than enough for this Pakistani batting lineup. Its beyond their talent and ability to chase 220+ targets on consistent basis, 3-1 to England, another pathetic display in ODIs by Pakistan in UAE.
 
waleed88 said:
Youuuuu had to jinx himmm
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It's not about jinx mate, the problem I have with PPers is most people care for aesthetics rather than how a player actually performs. Anwar isn't 7'1 nor does he bowl 90 mph like Wahab but he is doing the job of what he is told to do i.e. keep it tight and make sure Eng don't run away with the game. For me something like this in ODIs are equally important like for say saving runs with good fielding.
 
The main problem is that we don't have a good 6th bowler today. Azhar is the only option. At best, he'll bowl 4 or 5 overs. So the other bowlers will need to bowl a fair bit. Anwar can't get away with bowling just 5 overs today. I hope he's up to the task.
 
I rather have a proper bowler like Mir Hamza than this nothing bowler like Anwar Ali.
 
These are some awesome crowd banners. Haha shehzad the selfie king

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waleed88 said:
Agreed.
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One opening slot is for Shehzad to occupy and rightly so because he's the best opener we've got at the moment judging by his stats. No amount of playing amateurs at the top will change that fact. Pakistan doesn't have an army of world beaters waiting in the wings to replace him.
 
Almost 1 bad ball and over from our bowlers, england have almost reach 50 without having to break sweat so far!
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
It's not about jinx mate, the problem I have with PPers is most people care for aesthetics rather than how a player actually performs. Anwar isn't 7'1 nor does he bowl 90 mph like Wahab but he is doing the job of what he is told to do i.e. keep it tight and make sure Eng don't run away with the game. For me something like this in ODIs are equally important like for say saving runs with good fielding.
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This mentality will get us nowhere. You need a wicket taker with the new ball, not trying to keep it tight.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
It's not about jinx mate, the problem I have with PPers is most people care for aesthetics rather than how a player actually performs. Anwar isn't 7'1 nor does he bowl 90 mph like Wahab but he is doing the job of what he is told to do i.e. keep it tight and make sure Eng don't run away with the game. For me something like this in ODIs are equally important like for say saving runs with good fielding.
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Our fans are offended because we historically have produced the most tearaway fast bowlers with the new ball and now it is hard to digest that a medium pacer is bowling with the new ball.
Although one exists in almost all teams around the world. It still does not sit right with them. They continue to point out his pace despite him being a utility bowler who keeps it tight and gets the occasional wicket.
If only our fans had more sense.
 
50 up for england inside 1st overs. not a good start this for pakistan.
 
waleed88 said:
Glad to see Yasir Shah back. Definitely better than Zafar Gohar. He had no control of his bowling. Was bowling gimmies and dollies. His batting does not inspire any confidence the way he got out after scoring 15.
Definitely Yasir is an attacking option while Gohar is fit for junior level cricket. Too early for him at the International stage.
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Really?? What game were you watching??

:facepalm:
 
waleed88 said:
Our fans are offended because we historically have produced the most tearaway fast bowlers with the new ball and now it is hard to digest that a medium pacer is bowling with the new ball.
Although one exists in almost all teams around the world. It still does not sit right with them. They continue to point out his pace despite him being a utility bowler who keeps it tight and gets the occasional wicket.
If only our fans had more sense.
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Mein bachpan say bara hogaya but I have yet to find this on a consistent basis
 
shah_1 said:
This mentality will get us nowhere. You need a wicket taker with the new ball, not trying to keep it tight.
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On flat UAE wickets???? I dont think so. Usually teams keep utility bowlers.
England has almost all bowlers bowling at Anwar Ali pace so why isnt it an issue for them.
The fact is the management knows in these pitches it is better to keep a tall batting order than a tall bowling order. Because batting generally wins you games on flat tracks.
Plus we have the worst tail in the world.
 
We are finished as an ODI team. Don't have the bowlers and batsmen for this format.
 
Can someone tell me what is Anwar doing in the team??

He is averaging 52 with the ball which is even worse for this year; around 70 odd.
 
#GreenRoars said:
Wait for a while, now people will come up with the argue that bowler should bat well otherwise he shouldn't be in the team :))
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IF your top 7 can't do the job, no one will.


Pick your best four bowlers and 5th bowler should be an All rounder. A big NO NO to bits and pieces cricketers
 
waleed88 said:
On flat UAE wickets???? I dont think so. Usually teams keep utility bowlers.
England has almost all bowlers bowling at Anwar Ali pace so why isnt it an issue for them.
The fact is the management knows in these pitches it is better to keep a tall batting order than a tall bowling order. Because batting generally wins you games on flat tracks.
Plus we have the worst tail in the world.
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Maybe because they swing the new ball.... just a thought.
 
Mamoon said:
We are finished as an ODI team. Don't have the bowlers and batsmen for this format.
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+1 .
Our Odi bowling attack is on par with india if not worse ..
Not too long ago i loved to watch Pakistan bowling but this bowling attack is toothless..


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Arsal_AK said:
Really?? What game were you watching??



:facepalm:
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What did Zafar Gohar do honestly? The amount of turn he was getting he was still getting hit around by the batsmen. I call that pathetic bowling rather than anything else.
Yasit wouldn't've have wasted the turn he got like zafar did.
He is a moeen Ali level bowlerr at best.
Imad wasim is much more superior to him and will displace both Zafar and Yasir once he comes in.
 
So, because I have been away from PP for a bit, can I have a rundown of the eleven players who are being unfairly kept out of the team.
 
arehaan said:
Anwar Ali is not an Odi player. Simple as that wasting the new ball
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Absolutely, he can hit a few, but can't play a long innings.

He can decieve the batsmen with slower balls in T20's, but doesn't have enough skills to get out batsmen in ODI's.
 
right so another loss today? I have zero hope..simply waiting for this series to end..
 
Mamoon said:
We are finished as an ODI team. Don't have the bowlers and batsmen for this format.
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Bowling is fine, we regularly restrict teams between 250 to 270, the batting can't make more than 200.
 
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