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Pakistan v New Zealand | ICC World T20 Super8: Match 5 | Bridgetown | 5/8/10| NZ Inn|

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ZAK said:
Salam everybody.
Wa'asalam.

Make yourself comfortable. This evening is going to be a special one. For one reason or the other. :afridi
 
Afridi is not a very good leader his body language is not good. He looks nervous, compared to younis khan, he looked strong at the toss and determined.
 
Exactly what happened in the last world T20 cup, Pakistan going against New Zealand to go into the semis.
 
Bowling 1st could be a wrong decision in my opinion, as it is a pressure match and our batsmen dont seem to handle pressure well.

Inshallah i will be proven wrong
 
Both captains wanted to bowl first so seems like it was the sensible decision.
 
For all the Fawad lovers.

What was he doing in the team anyway?

He doesn't bowl because he isn't a good enough bowler. Afridi and Waqar only have enough faith in him to make him bat at 8.

He's in the team for his fielding. Simple. Our fielding is pathetic anyway. I don't know how one player will make a difference in a team largely made up of poor fielders.

It may not be his own fault but he's just beeing wasted in the team so he might aswell sit out.
 
Nassir hussain: a lot of short stuff from New Zealand for the Pakistani batting line up

thats scary :/
 
Good luck, though the shaggers tend to be good in these short matches.
 
Come on Captain Boom Boom!!! We know you have a some what cricket smart & aggressive brain in that head lets start using it!!! :afridi

Lets bring our A+ game today and more or less kick NZ out this tourny!
 
Good decision to bowl first after winning the toss but team selection raising a lot of eyebrows. There is a statistic on cricinfo for fast bowlers and spinners in T20 World cup 2010 and it shows clearly that fast bowlers have been leading with wickets and better average. Why the damn hell are we playing rehman on this wicket ? . Dropping asif is a blunder and bringing back sami is a risk but not entirely a bad move considering pitch conditions especially a lot of moisture available.


I have to say as much as i love to see pakistan defend it's title successfully, i just can't see how we will pull wins off in the remaining two matches with poor team combinations. Why is hafeez still there in the team , has he not been exposed ? What the hell has team management been doing toying around with fawad alam in the last two matches ???.

Unfortunately we are going to pay a price for not picking the rigth squad by leaving out shazhaib hasan, Mohammed irfan , Asad Shafiq, Wahab riaz and Rana Naved ul hasan ( Had he not been banned for reasons still not clear ! )
 
Do or die for pakistan ,lets see which pakistan side will show up today.Inshallah the one everyone is afraid off.
 
Lets hope they just win this game.

I don't see them beating South Africa. I don't think this team deserves to get through to the semi's.

But they can atleast put a smile back on the faces of their supporters with a win here.
 
chui_kadoo said:
who should open the bowling with Amir. Should it be Sami or Razaq?

Surely its worth giving Sami the ball. He is the quicker one and early wickets are important.
 
This band seriously needs to learn how to play our national anthem.
 
Juggernaut said:
Lets hope they just win this game.

I don't see them beating South Africa. I don't think this team deserves to get through to the semi's.

But they can atleast put a smile back on the faces of their supporters with a win here.

Eng should beat SA & in a must win situation we all know how SA does . if Pak can win this one , they are in with a chance
 
The pace-spin equation, and a D/L snippetA look at how fast bowlers and spinners have fared in Twenty20 internationals, and the key to favourable targets in D/L matches

S Rajesh

May 7, 2010

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Dirk Nannes has been one of the fast bowlers who has had no problems with the conditions in the West Indies © AFP


Related LinksNumbers Game : Last week's column - To bat or field first, and the busiest batsmen
Players/Officials: Umar Gul | Daniel Vettori
Series/Tournaments: ICC World Twenty20


All stats till the end of the group stages of the ICC World Twenty20, i.e, till May 5.

In the lead-up to the ICC World Twenty20, what was generally agreed upon was that the pitches in the West Indies would greatly assist spin, and that spinners would be far more difficult to get away than fast bowlers. Intuitively that seems a reasonable assessment, as the pitches have lost much of their pace at most venues there. Add to that the fairly large outfields, which generally help spinners get batsmen out caught in the deep, and it's fair to assume that spinners will enjoy the conditions more than the fast men.

What's transpired so far - till the end of the group stage - though, is quite different. Spinners haven't done badly, taking 50 wickets at a decent average and economy rate, but they've been upstaged by the fast bowlers. In the first 12 matches in the World Twenty20, medium pace or pace has taken 90 out of the 140 wickets that have fallen to bowlers, at an average of 17. The three leading wicket-takers - Dirk Nannes, Mohammad Aamer and Darren Sammy - are all from that category, with all of them averaging fewer than 10 runs per wicket. Hamid Hassan of Afghanistan and Shaun Tait have sub-ten averages as well.

On the other hand, while some spinners like Daniel Vettori and Shakib Al Hasan have done well, several others have had less success than anticipated. Yusuf Pathan and Mohammad Hafeez are among those with economy rates of more than 10 runs per over. And the ploy of opening the bowling with spin hasn't met with much success either: on the 11 occasions when they've bowled the first or second over of an innings, spinners have gone for 70 runs without taking a single wicket.


Pace and spin in the 2010 ICC World Twenty20 Wickets Average Economy rate Strike rate
Pace 90 17.06 7.02 14.5
Spin 50 26.72 7.22 22.2



The performances of pace and spin so far in the World Cup are a departure from their overall records in Twenty20 internationals. In all matches, pace- or medium-pace bowlers average 23.76 runs per wicket and concede 7.53 runs per over; the corresponding numbers for spinners are 20.77 and 6.76. Doing the same analysis for matches featuring only the top 10 teams (excluding the Associate countries), the difference is still similar: fast bowlers concede more runs per wicket and per over compared to spinners.

One of the reasons for this could be the period of the innings when these bowlers are used: fast bowlers have usually bowled the first few and the last few overs of 20-over games, when batsmen are more inclined to take chances. However, the good performances of spinners in a format in which it was initially feared they'd have no role has encouraged captains to use them more often in difficult periods. That trend was noticeable during the IPL, and it's likely to continue in internationals as well.


Pace and spin in all Twenty20 internationals involving the top 10 teams Wickets Average Economy rate Strike rate
Pace 892 25.54 7.85 19.5
Spin 421 21.93 7.05 18.6
 
Good to see Sami back. Lets hope we field better. Asif was not threatening in the last match at all.

I think we are one batsman short. Latif should have been in for either Ajmal or Rehman. I

am afraid that Rehman might do something
 
The most strangest pakistani anthem I have heard
 
2nd ball left outside off this time angleing across the right hander havent seen any movment yet
 
SirRyanOfSalford said:
Pisses me off that none of our players sing the national anthem, proly don't even know the words.


Hahahaha you should check our Afridi sometime when the anthem's going on. He is quiet but as soon as the camera is on him, he starts mouthing something that definitely does not look like the words of our anthem!! :))) :)))
 
Pace and spin in the 2010 ICC World Twenty20

Wickets Average Economy rate Strike rate

Pace 90 17.06 7.02 14.5
Spin 50 26.72 7.22 22.2



According to those statistics above and what we have see from matches to date especially with australia's pace triplet of nannes, tait and johnson's success on pacy and bouncy wickets of bridgetown, barbados why the hell are we playing rehman in today's match ??? . It would have been right to retain asif today and bring back sami in the team. what is the team management thinking ???
 
Please put a spinner to partner Aamir Captain Boom Boom speacially not Hafeez
 
Look how the fielder collects the ball down at third man with the legs open huh
 
here we go a pull for 4 ... i wonder if pakistan will be able to do that

6/0

1 over
 
7 of the first over, OK over from Aamer
 
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