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Pakistan vs Australia | 2nd ODI | Sharjah | Mar 24, 2019 | Pakistan Innings

Pakistani think tank aren't smart enough to use Umar as an opener
 
UA holes out to deep midwicket? Same old story and people hoping he ll win us WC19 lolzzzz once a failure ll always be a failure
 
MMHS said:
Umar Akmal needs mental treatment. Today, even RR was over 5 after 22 overs.
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Yet you kept advocating his selection for the last few years.

Cricket is not about strokemaking ability but about temperament too which UA has never developed even after 110 ODIs.
 
Chokli said:
Pakistani think tank aren't smart enough to use Umar as an opener
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Right.... that’s what missing now, garbage ll always be garbage no matter where he plays enough with the nonsense of tailunt
 
castortroy said:
The shot was there to play. Execution was poor
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Yes, but if he would have given him 10 more bowls his eye would have been set and there was more probability of him executing it well.
 
Titan24 said:
Considering the ability he possesses I would like him to be given 5 matches as an opener
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People calling pak think tank not smart enough.. what about fans like u who still not able to understand what ki d of pkayer UA is.
 
Pakistanis cant play left arm spin even if it is a useless excuse of a pie chucker like Finch.
 
Plumb said:
Right.... that’s what missing now, garbage ll always be garbage no matter where he plays enough with the nonsense of tailunt
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Rohit, Dilshan, Sehwag were all garbage before becoming openers
 
Hope I have seen the last of Akmal in odi,s 🤦🏽*♂️ 2 saal kuch nahi seekha !!! ok for t20 but not an odi player anymore.. the ship has sailed ,the guy will be 29 in a few days & same goes for Aamir ...another genius who’s meant to be a world beater 🤷🏽*♂️
 
Finchs bowling spell will be reason for pak losing this match today. Pak dont have the brains to attack finch and put him and aus under pressure
 
Plumb said:
Lol comparing dilshan sehwag and rohit with UA... some oeople desperately needs to wake up n smell the coffee
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I knew you'd say that.

The Dilshan, Sehwag, Rohit we know only became the players we know after they became openers.

Before they were even worse than Umar
 
Plumb said:
Right.... that’s what missing now, garbage ll always be garbage no matter where he plays enough with the nonsense of tailunt
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With only two fielders outside in the first 10 overs, options to play shots is much more than in the middle overs.

Look at Roy, Bairstow they cant hit as many shots in the middle overs as they do in the 1st 10 and if they survive first 10 they are all set to keep going afterwards.
 
It’s not they can’t hit boundaries against finch. It’s that they can’t rotate the strike against him. If you rotate the strike against him (a) he is more liable to bowl a bad delivery as he has to adjust to different batsman regularly and (b) as a batter, you are not frustrated in to a rash dismissal
 
Mirpur express said:
Hope I have seen the last of Akmal in odi,s 🤦🏽*♂️ 2 saal kuch nahi seekha !!! ok for t20 but not an odi player anymore.. the ship has sailed ,the guy will be 29 in a few days & same goes for Aamir ...another genius who’s meant to be a world beater 🤷🏽*♂️
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Here’s whats gonna happen.. he ll fail next 2 games and play a 40 ball 45 in last game and try to make the headlines and cry in tv that what an amazing innings I played and brainless fans ll follow it.
 
Plumb said:
Lol comparing dilshan sehwag and rohit with UA... some oeople desperately needs to wake up n smell the coffee
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Rohit Sharma was averaging 25-29 before he was made opener. What he meant was maybe changing Umar's position may help.

Though I think its time to end Umar's ODI career, he's a TTF.
 
U Akmal is nothing but a product of media hype and huge back up from some former players.
 
Chokli said:
I knew you'd say that.

The Dilshan, Sehwag, Rohit we know only became the players we know after they became openers.

Before they were even worse than Umar
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Exactly, Rohit was averaging less than Umar in the middle order.
 
BUT, what are the options :(

Sarfraz is Captain, so he'll take one of the to 6 spots; Imam will be there, and Babar commands his spot. Left is 3 spots - Fakhar deserves his chances at least to start in first couple of games regardless of what he does against Poms, left is Hafeez, Malik, Haris. I don't see Malik contributing anything in UK, Hafeez might score some crispy runs, but without bowling he shouldn't be a confirmed starter, Haris won't last long 9 games in a month.

Poor timing from Fakhar, Imam to lose form and Malik was never that good outside Asia. On top of that, today the best player by some distance is Rizwan, who won't get into WC squad without injury. ......

Then we have PAK Coach telling that they are going to WC with a settled team.
 
Despite of poor show, UA need to be in the playing 11 for rest of the 3 ODI's. So that this chapter will be closed for good.
 
Rizwan needs to make a century if we are to score above 250.
 
Titan24 said:
With only two fielders outside in the first 10 overs, options to play shots is much more than in the middle overs.

Look at Roy, Bairstow they cant hit as many shots in the middle overs as they do in the 1st 10 and if they survive first 10 they are all set to keep going afterwards.
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Just stop it please... excuse after excuse for a useless player enough please stop embarrassing pakistan cricket.

UA is a 20-30 player on a good day the guy was brainless before and will remain brainless. Position he bats, fielders in circle, rotation of strike just stop it
 
Titan24 said:
With only two fielders outside in the first 10 overs, options to play shots is much more than in the middle overs.

Look at Roy, Bairstow they cant hit as many shots in the middle overs as they do in the 1st 10 and if they survive first 10 they are all set to keep going afterwards.
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Exactly this.

Our openers are more often than not always in the hut in the first 10, at least with Umar he'll have a lot more freedom and less pressure.
 
What’s this obsession of making UA an opener. It doesn’t matter what position he bats in he is a brain **** and always will be. Using the excuse that there’s only 2 fielders on the boundary doesn’t cut it as an opening position is a specialist position to face the new ball with pace usually. UA thrives of medium pacers and would struggle if the ball is swinging. Kick him out once and for all. Doesn’t have the brain for it.
 
FGS, Finch has 1-19 in 7 overs on this track and Sharjah is max 60 metre boundary!!! He is just darting away his 10 overs for 35 on a 300+ track.
 
Australia only need one of Lyon and Zampa if Finch can bowl.
 
Chokli said:
I knew you'd say that.

The Dilshan, Sehwag, Rohit we know only became the players we know after they became openers.

Before they were even worse than Umar
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He is not that great that I ll was experiment with this fat brainless slogger. I would rather give chance to anyone but him he has cost us many games.

If u know little bit of cricket and seen how he gets out game after game u would know...theres a reason I gave up on him 5-6 years ago. My club player is better than this guy.
 
Titan24 said:
Exactly, Rohit was averaging less than Umar in the middle order.
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But Rohit is more of Imran Nazir type. His strength has always been his is timing with lazy elegance. On the contrary Umar Akmal is pure slogger without brain. This guy will never learn. I bet if you allow him to bat at 11 positions in a practice match, he will repeat the same mistake on all 11 occasions.
 
Plumb said:
Just stop it please... excuse after excuse for a useless player enough please stop embarrassing pakistan cricket.

UA is a 20-30 player on a good day the guy was brainless before and will remain brainless. Position he bats, fielders in circle, rotation of strike just stop it
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Not saying he is a genious but someone who likes playing shots and has decent ability to hit, 2 fielders outside or 4-5 makes a big difference. Thats just my opinion, I am not a coach or selector so dont worry.
 
adzzy786 said:
What’s this obsession of making UA an opener. It doesn’t matter what position he bats in he is a brain **** and always will be. Using the excuse that there’s only 2 fielders on the boundary doesn’t cut it as an opening position is a specialist position to face the new ball with pace usually. UA thrives of medium pacers and would struggle if the ball is swinging. Kick him out once and for all. Doesn’t have the brain for it.
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It's not a specialist position, you open long enough you become a specialist.

The best ODI opener was worse than Umar Akmal in the middle order
 
Pakistan won't get more than 260 by the looks it that too if they manage to play out full 50 overs.

Poor batting and poor shots from the top 4 cost them
 
If you don’t have heart on top of talent and fitness you can’t do well at any position
 
Plumb said:
He is not that great that I ll was experiment with this fat brainless slogger. I would rather give chance to anyone but him he has cost us many games.

If u know little bit of cricket and seen how he gets out game after game u would know...theres a reason I gave up on him 5-6 years ago. My club player is better than this guy.
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Agreed.

But we don't have any other decent player in domestic cricket.

The goal should be to utilize what we have in the best way possible
 
Guys relax. It was him who gave momentum last inning and even today he came with intent. Otherwise this batting line play at snails pace. Umar akmal is needed for the WC and thats a fact. You dont have many option in quality of hitting power. If hafeez fails to recover than we have no option.
 
Umar Akmal as an opener would work well, Fakhar is not doing well either but can play spin well.

Umar Akmal
Imam
Babar
Fakhar
Sarfraz
Malik
Faheem
Shadab
Hassan Ali
Shaheen
Hasnain

This would be a good lineup
 
Anyone surprised with the suggestion of Umar opening needs to know that Umar started his cricket as an opener and was an opener in the U19 world cup.
 
This fascination of batting first needs to change - there is no 40 wicket taking overs any more that bowlers can take 10 wickets at lesser cost of whatever batsmen put batting first without any pressure. Among two skills, I would rather say it's probably bowling which is weak link - not sure why 2nd time they opted to bat first after experience of first game.
 
lahoriyah1234 said:
Guys relax. It was him who gave momentum last inning and even today he came with intent. Otherwise this batting line play at snails pace. Umar akmal is needed for the WC and thats a fact. You dont have many option in quality of hitting power. If hafeez fails to recover than we have no option.
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I agree. Bar Fakhar and malik, Hafeez against spin, we don't have other big hitting options
 
Umar doesn’t and will never have the temperament to bat at 3,4 or 5. This is a failed experiment and will never work.

That is why, there are only two positions where he can bring utility to the team - a number 6 dasher in the Asif role or a dasher at the top of the order

I personally feel that he has what it takes to play the Fakhar role with better success, and he was and always will be better than Asif.

However, if the selectors and management do not feel that he is in contention for the Fakhar and Asif roles, they should drop him and not waste the middle-order spots on him.

The likes of Saad, Shakil, Talat etc. are better served for number 4 and 5. Babar of course has made the number 3 his own for another 15 years.
 
MMHS said:
This fascination of batting first needs to change - there is no 40 wicket taking overs any more that bowlers can take 10 wickets at lesser cost of whatever batsmen put batting first without any pressure. Among two skills, I would rather say it's probably bowling which is weak link - not sure why 2nd time they opted to bat first after experience of first game.
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Raised the very same point in my first post in this thread. Irrespective of how good or bad bowling is chasing given how the wickets are now a days and how little they change its easier to chase.
 
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Chokli said:
Our best ODI bat was Inzi.

Fitness is overrated.
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He was a good Batsmen because his timing and talent were amazing. You don’t always get that and cricket era has changed since then. How much did Inzy under achieve? If he has ran harder? If he didn’t get run out in the field? If he could actually field in the outfield. Fitness is the core along with talent and techinque. If not you can create your own XI of Mr blobby’s
 
Just like Fakhar's regression started after that CT 100, Imams honeymoon period of his first 15-20 ODI seems to have taken a bit too.
 
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This World Cup will be another disaster with apart from Babar and Haris no proper reliable batsman in the team. Even with bowling we are not good enough. Don't expect to win more than 2-3 matches.
 
Umar Akmal
Shan Masood
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Sarfraz Ahmed
Mohammad Hafeez
Imad Wasim
 
adzzy786 said:
He was a good Batsmen because his timing and talent were amazing. You don’t always get that and cricket era has changed since then. How much did Inzy under achieve? If he has ran harder? If he didn’t get run out in the field? If he could actually field in the outfield. Fitness is the core along with talent and techinque. If not you can create your own XI of Mr blobby’s
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Fair point but you never know what could've happened.

Nasir Jamshed comes to mind when he said losing weight effected his balance and what not lol.

Fitness is important but shouldn't go over board with it.
 
Rizwan just showing its never on to discard players after playing them in positions unusual for them. This was his 2,3 rd oppurtunity throughout his career in a position where he usually plays.
 
Chokli said:
Fair point but you never know what could've happened.

Nasir Jamshed comes to mind when he said losing weight effected his balance and what not lol.

Fitness is important but shouldn't go over board with it.
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As if you believed that Nasir Jamshed rubbish? Come on. Simple common sense goes a long way here. Look the best batsmen in the world is probably the fittest Virat Kohli. If you look at all the other best batsmen all are very fit.
 
adzzy786 said:
As if you believed that Nasir Jamshed rubbish? Come on. Simple common sense goes a long way here. Look the best batsmen in the world is probably the fittest Virat Kohli. If you look at all the other best batsmen all are very fit.
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Pakistanis are far behind the world in more than one way
 
Wow Rizwan, thats some innings to target a WC squad
 
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