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Pakistan vs South Africa | 2nd Test | 23/11/2010 | Abu Dhabi | Day 4 : Session 1

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But don't you think that if we just bat for too long, SA instead will just go for a draw?

SA will try and win this. Imagine Australia going for a draw against Windies, thats how skewed Pakistan and SA are in terms of rankings.
 
Tanveer's avg in first class is above 20..... i saw him playing he is a decent player should play above gull
 
SA will try and win this. Imagine Australia going for a draw against Windies, thats how skewed Pakistan and SA are in terms of rankings.

Regardless, in that case, if anything we'd reduce our chances of winning to 0.
 
Tanveer's avg in first class is above 20..... i saw him playing he is a decent player should play above gull

I think it dpends what we need. If we need quick runs, gul is required as there are few of our actual 'batsman' who can out hit gul in terms of power.
 
Sami batting at #11, tells you this tail is not bad at all. Sami usually bats at #8
 
Does anyone know what are the best all round figures on debut? Wondering if Tanvir will have the best all round figures on debut for Pakistan if he reaches his half century.
 
But don't you think that if we just bat for too long, SA instead will just go for a draw?

Exactly. I would actually want Pakistan to concede a lead of about 150 and let SA bat. SA would not be able to figure out when to declare.

To be safe SA will bat out most of the day and add about 200 runs. Set Pakistan a score of about 350 with 3 sessions of play left. SA's only chance of winning is to entice Pakistan to go for the target of 350 and get themselves out, bacuse if SA makes Pakistan play for a draw, there's no way they are going to get Pakistan out with such little time left
 
How? Then we can't win!

Lunch

412/8

In my opinion, they should bat till there are 7-8 overs left in the session, hopefully hitting around the 490 mark and declare.

because when you go into a shell, you're more likely to get knocked over.
 
What if Tanvir Ahmed scores a century along with 6 wicket in his debut match.had anyone done that before?
 
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