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Pakistan vs South Africa | 2nd Test | Lahore | 12/10/07 | Day 5

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They'll look to get after Steyn, could see a flurry of boundaries here.
 
It is important not to lose another wicket before lunch here. It seems that Pakistan has come out of the little tight period.
 
zaf1986 said:
SMith heard Waqar - on comes Steyn
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Guess Smith already allowed Yousaf to settle in. Hope he will build on this start, and Younis should start a new innings and shouldnt throw away his wicket. His job is not done yet.

He should play carefully and sensibly, once Yousaf get into his 30s then he could accelerate as Yousaf will be well set by then.
 
kablooee87 said:
I'll ask again...when is lunch?
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According to cicinfo;

hours of play: 09.30 start, Lunch 12.00-13.00, Tea 15.00-15.40, Close 17.30
Current time: 12:13 local, 07:13 GMT
 
slix10 said:
That's what I'm saying...

when's lunch? take lunch already!
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Guess on final day and also because of friday prayer; they started game 30 min earlier and will take lunch in 15 min at 12:30 and Lunch might be of 1 hour. So game will resume at 1:30 PST.
 
kablooee87 said:
I thought this session would be 2.5 hours. But we're going on 3 hours now.
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True, lunch should have started 15 mins ago.
 
saffer said:
pakistan still well in this...not much in the pitch ..
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457 is a tall order. They haven't reached half the score yet. Worst case SA will bowl wide balls and negative balls. So SA is pretty much safe here. May be they can reach within 50 runs. only large scale screw up from SA can let this game away from them.
 
W63L35 said:
According to cicinfo;

hours of play: 09.30 start, Lunch 12.00-13.00, Tea 15.00-15.40, Close 17.30
Current time: 12:13 local, 07:13 GMT
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I guess they're not following that..
 
W63L35 said:
According to cicinfo;

hours of play: 09.30 start, Lunch 12.00-13.00, Tea 15.00-15.40, Close 17.30
Current time: 12:13 local, 07:13 GMT
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think that should be lunch : 12:30 to 1:00
 
jackal786 said:
457 is a tall order. They haven't reached half the score yet. Worst case SA will bowl wide balls and negative balls. So SA is pretty much safe here. May be they can reach within 50 runs. only large scale screw up from SA can let this game away from them.
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Being an Indian or India fan, you could wish SA win 2-0 or atleast you will wish Pakistan just could draw it.
 
much better going from these two now

We can get 150 from the last 30 overs if we have wickets
 
It is a definite draw. Pitch has not crumbled inspite of being 5th day pitch. I think if light is offered Pakistan will take.
 
jackal786 said:
It is a definite draw. Pitch has not crumbled inspite of being 5th day pitch. I think if light is offered Pakistan will take.
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Do you assume Tendulkar is playing?
 
Hash said:
much better going from these two now

We can get 150 from the last 30 overs if we have wickets
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exactly. The way they aren't playing IS NOT PLAYING FOR A DRAW like some people are saying.
 
457 is a tall order. They haven't reached half the score yet. Worst case SA will bowl wide balls and negative balls. So SA is pretty much safe here. May be they can reach within 50 runs. only large scale screw up from SA can let this game away from them.
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It will all come down to this partnership...pakistan can afford to go for it , but two more wickets would see them have to block it out..
 
jackal786 said:
457 is a tall order. They haven't reached half the score yet. Worst case SA will bowl wide balls and negative balls. So SA is pretty much safe here. May be they can reach within 50 runs. only large scale screw up from SA can let this game away from them.
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Don't think they would do that, they should play positive cricket :batman:
 
jackal786 said:
It is a definite draw. Pitch has not crumbled inspite of being 5th day pitch. I think if light is offered Pakistan will take.
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There are only two results of this game, either Pakistan win or SA win.
 
winning will be tough because the next two sessions will only be 1.5 hours each. so that means 40 more overs after lunch. Even if they score 18 runs in the last 10 minutes t means 220 in 40 overs. and in a test match it wont be easy.
 
its playing out a little like a one day game........s.a will take a draw as a win (considering they declared 4 wickets down and won the series)
 
nosferatu372 said:
winning will be tough because the next two sessions will only be 1.5 hours each. so that means 40 more overs after lunch. Even if they score 18 runs in the last 10 minutes t means 220 in 40 overs. and in a test match it wont be easy.
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In test matches, last session also include 20 mandatory overs, so for Pakistan it is important to keep wickets intact and in last session if they are within 120-130 runs of the target; I am sure they will go for it.
 
saffer said:
its playing out a little like a one day game........s.a will take a draw as a win (considering they declared 4 wickets down and won the series)
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It cannot be played like one day game because there are no power plays, over-restrictions. Wides are leniently interpreted. Lot of time wasting tactics can be used like Australia used when NZ almost chased out a total in Australia.
 
241 runs needed in 50 overs at 4.82 R/O


Think of getting 241 in an ODI....
differences here are;

1) No field restrictions.
2) No 10 over limit on the bowlers.
3) Wicket is a little helpful to Harris.
 
W63L35 said:
241 runs needed in 50 overs at 4.82 R/O


Think of getting 241 in an ODI....
differences here are;

1) No field restrictions.
2) No 10 over limit on the bowlers.
3) Wicket is a little helpful to Harris.
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4- almost forget about the wide ball rule
 
nosferatu372 said:
winning will be tough because the next two sessions will only be 1.5 hours each. so that means 40 more overs after lunch. Even if they score 18 runs in the last 10 minutes t means 220 in 40 overs. and in a test match it wont be easy.
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lunch is in 5 mins

minimum 48 over left. We wont take the light if we have a sniff of victory.
 
Harris looks like bowling like 25 overs 25 runs spell. It is other bowlers they have to go after. But new ball is due.
 
1st session: 9:30am to 12:30pm
second session: 1:30pm to 3:00pm
3rd session: 3:20pm to 4:50pm

These were the timings I saw on TV before the day's play.
 
Yousuf is still finding his touch. But once YOunis is gone, shutters will be down completely.
 
FAM said:
1st session: 9:30am to 12:30pm
second session: 1:30pm to 3:00pm
3rd session: 3:20pm to 4:50pm

These were the timings I saw on TV before the day's play.
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Thanks.
 
We can probably score 150 off the last 30 overs max, so that means another 85 runs in the next 17 overs, which is 5 an over anyway.
 
i dont know if they will take the new ball. we are scoring a lot more freely of the faster bowlers. its harris and his negative line that is keeping us pinned down.

if we dont lose a wicket to the new ball it might actually help us to get closer to the target
 
Things so far are not going SA way; especially most of the calculations. Since they bowled 74 overs at lunch so they have to bowl atleast 6 more overs after lunch before they could ask for a new ball, which will allow Yousaf and Younis to settle down before they face new ball post lunch. Plus SA will be debating about new ball as long as these twos are at the crease, which mean SA will be defensive than attacking.
 
222/2 right now

Dave Sheppherd would have been petrified.
 
s.a need a wicket soon if they want a chance to win..but seems they are happy with a draw (credit to pakistan in this).
 
222/2

235 runs needed in 47 overs at 5.00 R/O
 
saffer said:
s.a need a wicket soon if they want a chance to win..but seems they are happy with a draw (credit to pakistan in this).
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This pitch requires two good spinners. Pace bowlers have no hopes on this surface.
 
With wickets in hand and pitch is not doing too much; it is not impossible to score 118 runs in each session (lunch to tea; and tea to close of the day).
 
But i dont think we will try and go for the target till after tea. I cant remember which test it was against india but they had lost only one wicket by lunch on the fifth day and we still got them all out before the day ended.

inzi to come, who is not great form,
Misbah has yet to prove himself,
and while Malik has played relatively well in the karachi test, i dont yet have the greatest confidence in him, so to try and push to early might result in a loss.

I know people are saying what difference a 1-0 or a 2-0 loss makes, but i think it makes an immense difference to get whitewashed at home.
 
Things so far are not going SA way; especially most of the calculations. Since they bowled 74 overs at lunch so they have to bowl atleast 6 more overs after lunch before they could ask for a new ball, which will allow Yousaf and Younis to settle down before they face new ball post lunch.
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or 6 overs to get them out..so that you can bowl the new ball at the new batsmen...perfect if you ask me...
 
players off to lunch, me off to sleep. Good night guys, its 3:30am here... :D
 
Pakistan scored 114 runs in 43 overs at 2.65 R/O before lunch!
235 runs needed in 47 overs at 5.00 R/O
 
they need about 5 runs an over from here...not impossible but would require risky cricket which could lead to an S.A win .....worth the risk though in my opinion.
 
Progress since morning;

350 runs needed in 90 overs at 3.89 R/O
316 runs needed in 82 overs at 3.85 R/O
311 runs needed in 80 overs at 3.89 R/O
309 runs needed in 79 overs at 3.91 R/O
306 runs needed in 78 overs at 3.92 R/O
304 runs needed in 77 overs at 3.95 R/O
303 runs needed in 76 overs at 3.99 R/O
295 runs needed in 75 overs at 3.93 R/O
295 runs needed in 74 overs at 3.99 R/O
294 runs needed in 73 overs at 4.03 R/O
291 runs needed in 72 overs at 4.04 R/O
290 runs needed in 71 overs at 4.08 R/O
288 runs needed in 70 overs at 4.11 R/O
285 runs needed in 69 overs at 4.13 R/O
284 runs needed in 68 overs at 4.18 R/O
282 runs needed in 67 overs at 4.21 R/O
281 runs needed in 66 overs at 4.26 R/O
279 runs needed in 65 overs at 4.29 R/O
279 runs needed in 64 overs at 4.36 R/O
274 runs needed in 63 overs at 4.35 R/O
274 runs needed in 62 overs at 4.42 R/O
272 runs needed in 61 overs at 4.46 R/O
271 runs needed in 60 overs at 4.52 R/O
270 runs needed in 59 overs at 4.58 R/O
269 runs needed in 58 overs at 4.64 R/O
265 runs needed in 57 overs at 4.65 R/O
260 runs needed in 56 overs at 4.64 R/O
258 runs needed in 55 overs at 4.69 R/O
257 runs needed in 54 overs at 4.76 R/O
250 runs needed in 53 overs at 4.72 R/O
248 runs needed in 52 overs at 4.77 R/O
242 runs needed in 51 overs at 4.75 R/O
241 runs needed in 50 overs at 4.82 R/O
237 runs needed in 49 overs at 4.84 R/O
236 runs needed in 48 overs at 4.92 R/O
235 runs needed in 47 overs at 5.00 R/O
 
We went too slowly in that session. Just a tad too slowly.

RR should have been 3.25 or so. 25-30 runs short.

We have plenty of batting to come so hopefully they start taking some risks when we come back.
 
it'll all come down to the firsthour after lunch...if pakistan can see off and maybe up the rate against the new ball , then it's game on....but if S.A can get 2 wickets....well...it's going to be interesting ....

and to think I hardly bothered to watch today ...

interesting scenario...inzi comes in and hits the winning runs in his last test match , that looked to be a no hope scenario ....even as a south african I can appreciate the drama in that....

(but I still would prefer a win/draw for us of course !!)
 
We should draw this because we lost only 1 wicket in 43 overs today....and we have only 47 overs to go....we know we can draw the test match easily........!!!
 
the problem with run rates is once it gets over 6 it starts to climb with every dot ball....with harris bowling leg side it sure wont be easy to get the win........but it would be sad for them not to even try.
 
Hash said:
222/2 right now

Dave Sheppherd would have been petrified.
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Good morning / afternoon / evening all, wherever you are on the planet, and if you're celebrating Eid, please keep back some mithai for me!

Back to the cricket, 222/2, what a relief, of sorts, but Hash prepare yourself for walking on hot coals, may help to improve your predictions! :)


Bye all.
 
Much rather we try to go for the win and then lose no probelm. But to go for a draw is stupit. We have nothing to lose. 1-0 or 2-0 either way we lose series.
 
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