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Pakistan vs South Africa - Warm up Match on March 9th

omad said:
salam all

great allround preformance :) by " the Boys " lol if we chase this down insAllah wit no problems then shame on them South africians for whining like babys lol

that if should be in CAPS brotha
 
Gul, Rao, Sami and Kaneria the bowlers for me. With Malik and Hafeez in the middle order.
 
Is this game being telecast anywhere?
 
I think everyone really knew that the setup for this world cup would be a little short, will really see how they cope with all the extra tourists once the games really get under way. I am going to catch the final 3 super eights and will let you know
 
199 AO. Very nice bowling performance from Pakistan, good to see Gul, Kaneria, Arafat, and Mahmood getting a work out.
 
classic said:
Imagine if this was happening in Pakistan..We would be called all sorts all over the world ...Pakistan are not organised..Pakistan cant showcase the worldcup...Pakistan are this Pakistan are that etc.etc etc.

There is no excuse in my opinion we are living in the 21st century man..where are all the techies ? Shame on the organizers !!:16:

Next you will be asking for live coverage of the net sessions too. Why don't you do what CricketEurope have done? they have created a website to provide live coverage of all Non-Test nations matches. They know they wouldn't get coverage in the mainstream media.
 
Nice going by Pakistan, even if its a terrible pitch. Nicely done by Sami.

Even though this is a terrible pitch, this will give him confidence, therefore; Sami and Gul should open the bowling next game, with RANA as first change.
 
looks like the spinners will be crucial in the world cup. we need to play atleast 3 from kaneria afridi malik hafeez.
 
MCMLXXXII said:
Next you will be asking for live coverage of the net sessions too. Why don't you do what CricketEurope have done? they have created a website to provide live coverage of all Non-Test nations matches. They know they wouldn't get coverage in the mainstream media.


Ecuse me mate.. but if INDIAN game is LIVE on EVERY website.. then WHY not PAK v's SouthAfrica?

U dontknow wot ur talking about.

HOW ARE PICTURES getting back quicker than commentry???

If u not gonna show ONE warmup game cus its WARMUP, then u SHUDNT show ANY of em shud u?

THIS IS A WARM UP GAME between the TOP 2 ODI teams!
 
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can we open with shahid afridi and imran nazir, just for fun :) ;) im just joking hehehe....or am i..? :O
 
Come the game that matters Sami will be back, don't lose sleep over this performance.
 
In last 2 matches some unlikely bowling performances. The folks who were expected to do good were below par besides Gul.

Good Bowling:
Hafeez
Sami
Gul
Rao

Average:
Kineria
Malik
Afridi
Mehmood

Below Average:
Rana

Keep in mind this is also considering what type of side we are playing.
 
Kaneria average? What? Are we reading the same scorecard? He did very well when looking at his past ODI record. A economy of under 4 is impressive in todays game.
 
They should have their real batting ORDER (as far as the top 8 go)

Go with this:

Nazir, Younis, Yousuf, Inzamam, Malik, Hafeez, Afridi, Akmal, Azhar, Arafat, Sami

(only because we played all 15 players)
 
Thank God the rana epidemic is over. Now if we could use rana as a replacement for asif or akhtar once the super 8s start and that'd be like topping of condensed milk on gola ganda.
 
shoaib said:
This is just typical Pakistan - all the no-hopers like Sami are getting wickets in a friendly and will now get picked for the real matches and DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I despair.

Real pakistan fan you are :14:
 
PlanetPakistan said:
Salam/hello guys,

So is Rana totally out of the equation or is he injured?

I think dropping Rana and Rao was more to do with giving Sami and Arafat practice than anything else
 
well he didnt bowl, so im thinking he mite out of favor. but they might have rested him to play sami and arafat
 
SameerM said:
Ecuse me mate.. but if INDIAN game is LIVE on EVERY website.. then WHY not PAK v's SouthAfrica?

U dontknow wot ur talking about.

HOW ARE PICTURES getting back quicker than commentry???

If u not gonna show ONE warmup game cus its WARMUP, then u SHUDNT show ANY of em shud u?

Indian game is live because the broadcasters are in place at that venue for the opening ceremony to take place on Sunday. During the world cup, there will be at most 2 matches concurrently, and broadcasters have sent 2 teams for this. That is why only 2 games are televised anywhere in the world. One team has been set up in Jamaica for the opening ceremony and the 1st match of the world cup, the second has been set up in St. Lucia for the second match. The costs of moving around and setting up to telecast live events is a lot and it doesn't seem reasonable that they will spend money to go to a place to telecast a warm up match, taking 21 cameras with them, number of engineers, producers, commentators, only to leave after the match and go somewhere else to set up for another match? The costs don't allow it, and this warm up match was not worth it.

It is as simple as that. The print and other internet media are to blame for not sending their reporters to the ground to cover this event but the same reason applies to them, they would have to fly in, reside in a hotel and then go and cover a warm up match and then have to fly out somewhere else so that they can be in place for when the world cup starts.

People should look at this rationally. none of you paid any money to cricinfo or any other provider and you expect them to cover it for you? People should quit complaining! Wait till Monday, let the world cup start, then we can complain all we want about how Biased cricinfo is towards India or England but jumping up and down because no one is covering this warmup game, its just ridiculous!
 
Ive just seen the scorecard and i was impressed with the opening bowlers gul and sami who kept the runs down and got some early wickets which is crucial in the absence of asif and akhtar. Im glad rana has been dropped because we just cant afford to give 7 or 8 runs an over!
 
My team vs WI would be:

Nazir
YK
Inzi
MoYO
Hafeez
Malik
Akmal
Rao
Sami
Gul
Kaneria
 
MCMLXXXII said:
Next you will be asking for live coverage of the net sessions too.

Now wouldn't that be cool!! :19:

All Im saying is Pakistan are a great team to watch and with millions of followers of them and SA for that matter their should have been scorecards..if no coverage on the box..NO EXCUSES!!

If all the other matches are having it then why not Pakistan?
 
MCMLXXXII said:
Indian game is live because the broadcasters are in place at that venue for the opening ceremony to take place on Sunday. During the world cup, there will be at most 2 matches concurrently, and broadcasters have sent 2 teams for this. That is why only 2 games are televised anywhere in the world. One team has been set up in Jamaica for the opening ceremony and the 1st match of the world cup, the second has been set up in St. Lucia for the second match. The costs of moving around and setting up to telecast live events is a lot and it doesn't seem reasonable that they will spend money to go to a place to telecast a warm up match, taking 21 cameras with them, number of engineers, producers, commentators, only to leave after the match and go somewhere else to set up for another match? The costs don't allow it, and this warm up match was not worth it.

It is as simple as that. The print and other internet media are to blame for not sending their reporters to the ground to cover this event but the same reason applies to them, they would have to fly in, reside in a hotel and then go and cover a warm up match and then have to fly out somewhere else so that they can be in place for when the world cup starts.

People should look at this rationally. none of you paid any money to cricinfo or any other provider and you expect them to cover it for you? People should quit complaining! Wait till Monday, let the world cup start, then we can complain all we want about how Biased cricinfo is towards India or England but jumping up and down because no one is covering this warmup game, its just ridiculous!

Well if they could cover Ireland Vs South Africa on March 5th, why couldn't they cover this? Isn't this match played on the same ground? The coverage of Ireland Vs S.Africa and Pakistan Vs Canada shows a reporter was present in that part of the West Indies
 
MCMLXXXII said:
For all those of you who are complaining about the lack of coverage, try to understand the facts.

first of all, this is a warm up match. This is not the world cup. It does not deserve the same kind of coverage as the world cup. Like the teams, the broadcasters and organizers are also warming up. During the world cup, there will be at most 2 concurrent matches and the broadcasters have sent 2 teams everywhere. That is why there are only two matches being shown live every where around the world. One of those matches is at Trelawny, Jamaica, where the opening ceremony will take place. The crew is there in place of that and it is by coincidence that India is playing there. there is no conspiracy to show India matches and to not show Pakistan matches. The second live coverage is from St. Lucia, where the second match will take place. The broadcasters are there as it is the most efficient for them to be in place for the world cup to start. Its for logistical reasons. Why should they waste money to broadcast events for which rights have not been discussed and are not official matches and where the demand for watching it is low anyway? Bad mouthing Geo and Cricinfo is ridiculous. You cannot get everything you want all the time and stop thinking the whole world out there is against you!

So crcinfo are employing 4 people to do text commentry? WHat happens when there are 4 matches taking place on same day in different places?

What about the first 2 matches shown on tv and cricinfo? I guss they were warming up to next warm up matches.

How they going to cover match 3 and 4? Are they played at same grounds? or 3 four days later? OR week after? I guss they will fly straight after finish.
 
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this match should have been covered. there is no reaon not to cover this if bangla NZ match was covered.
 
MCMLXXXII said:
My team vs WI would be:

Nazir
YK
Inzi
MoYO
Hafeez
Malik
Akmal
Rao
Sami
Gul
Kaneria


I like the side but i think azhar will be chosen ahead of rao because bob does prefer batting at no8!
 
26 extras which included 7 no-balls and 6 wides! These little things can really come back to haunt the team
 
youre telling me that they cant fly 1 reporter to cover a match involving two of the top 4 nations in the world in a world cup warm up match? you don't know what youre talking about. all you need is 1 reporter and a laptop. if you cannot send that to a World Cup warm up game then how can you expect to satisfy fans who rely on cricinfo as possibly the best all around cricket website in the world? nobody said that they HAVE to televise it, but at least let fans know whats going on with their team less than 5 days before the start of the World Cup you really dont know what youre talking about so you should stop talking now.
 
Saqlain_doosra said:
So crcinfo are employing 4 people to do text commentry? WHat happens when there are 4 matches taking place on same day in different places?

What about the first 2 matches shown on tv and cricinfo? I guss they were warming up to next warm up matches.

How they going to cover match 3 and 4? Are they played at same grounds? or 3 four days later? OR week after? I guss they will fly straight after finish.

Cricinfo very rarely send their staff to the ground for their coverage. They rely on other media to transmit the live feed for them.

how come I don't hear anyone complain about the NZ vs SL game? There is no coverage for that either. And as for the minnows game, None of them were telecast and the live commentary was only for 2 of them.

Why does everyone has to make it so that everything is Anti-Pakistan?
 
MCMLXXXII said:
Why does everyone has to make it so that everything is Anti-Pakistan?

Logic doesn't always work when people want to see their team play. :))
 
if the cricinfo has only few employees or staff reporters( who might be covering only india vs west indies and aus vs england) then why the hell are they advertising on there home page, for the live scores and scorecards about the two other matches???????????????????????
 
IM NOT YOU said:
youre telling me that they cant fly 1 reporter to cover a match involving two of the top 4 nations in the world in a world cup warm up match? you don't know what youre talking about. all you need is 1 reporter and a laptop. if you cannot send that to a World Cup warm up game then how can you expect to satisfy fans who rely on cricinfo as possibly the best all around cricket website in the world? nobody said that they HAVE to televise it, but at least let fans know whats going on with their team less than 5 days before the start of the World Cup you really dont know what youre talking about so you should stop talking now.

Send one reporter, pay his airlines fee, his hotel fee, his salary, the technical team to set him up to transmit live data, to purchase bandwidth in the place, all for a warmup game? and then send him back to the place they were before to cover something more important? Its not worth it. They will be spending more then they make from that match.

BTW those getty images come faster because each team is embedded by a photographer who take photos of them in hotel, nets, and games and then send it to AP to sell to all other agencies.
 
MCMLXXXII said:
Cricinfo very rarely send their staff to the ground for their coverage. They rely on other media to transmit the live feed for them.

how come I don't hear anyone complain about the NZ vs SL game? There is no coverage for that either. And as for the minnows game, None of them were telecast and the live commentary was only for 2 of them.

Why does everyone has to make it so that everything is Anti-Pakistan?

You need to stop now -- no one agrees with you here.. The point we all are trying to make is that there is NO excuse whatsoever for not being able to provide regular updates on this match.. It all comes down to crap organisation by crapinfo and other media orgs!
 
MCMLXXXII said:
Cricinfo very rarely send their staff to the ground for their coverage. They rely on other media to transmit the live feed for them.

how come I don't hear anyone complain about the NZ vs SL game? There is no coverage for that either. And as for the minnows game, None of them were telecast and the live commentary was only for 2 of them.

Why does everyone has to make it so that everything is Anti-Pakistan?


I am complaining about crapinfo and broadcasters showing only India and England matches.

You still haven't answered my question?
 
South Africa mustered a respectable 199 in the World Cup warm-up with Pakistan, despite concerns over the pitch which almost led to the game being abandoned.

Put into bat, the South Africans were unhappy with the erratic bounce at Trinidad's Frank Worrell Stadium.

Coaches Mickey Arthur and Bob Woolmer came on to the field to discuss the pitch with the umpires Peter Parker and Ian Gould, causing a 10-minute delay.

Loots Bosman hit an attacking 53 to guide the Proteas to a useful total.

The South Africans were without Justin Kemp, who missed out with a toe injury and paceman Makhaya Ntini - who would no doubt have relished bowling on such a sprightly wicket - but was at home awaiting the birth of his child.

Pakistan omitted all-rounder Yasir Arafat and fast bowler Mohammed Sami from their expanded 13-man squad.

Opening bowlers Mohammed Sami and Umar Gul found some extravagant lift, but also saw some deliveries shoot along the ground.

AB de Villiers was the first casualty in Sami's opening over, playing back to one that did not bounce and trapped him lbw.

With no addition to the score, Graeme Smith was bowled and Herschelle Gibbs fell for 11 when he gloved a brutal delivery from Sami in the 10th over, leaving the world's top one-day side at 27-3.

They had recovered to 56-3 when the mid-pitch consultation took place.

"The batsmen were not happy with the way the ball was bouncing, but the umpires asked them to continue," said Dhiraj Malhotra, an International Cricket Council official at the venue.

I like the sound of that :D Lets hope Sami was bowling quick
 
TheLegend said:
I think rana and rao not playing coz i seen sami , gul, azhar, arafat, hafeez, kaneria

wow actually that line up is lethal! malik as well. Malik and hafeez seem to be doing well, is there a need for dani? i dont know.

so..

yk
nazir
moyo
inzi
hafeez
malik
akmal
azhar
arafat
sami
gul
 
thurkeebaba said:
You need to stop now -- no one agrees with you here.. The point we all are trying to make is that there is NO excuse whatsoever for not being able to provide regular updates on this match.. It all comes down to crap organisation by crapinfo and other media orgs!
Well since everyone thinks its crapinfo and its biased towards india, and they seem to KNOW it already, then why go there and why complain. Well cricinfo, generally has done a good job, and they have faltered in a couple of matches and lot of people start moaning oh "the whole world is against pakistan". C'mon people show some logic.
 
I am tired of posting here!

People need to start thinking rationally. Just because people provide news on the internet, you can't expect them to give you all the news all the time. Where are people going to provide information from if no sources have them? Reporters from the ground have been sending periodic coverages and all other sites are reflecting them in their score cards, there is no ball by ball coverage for it anywhere.

If someone thought that they could have made any money from this, then they definitely would have. It costs far too much more to satisfy a bunch of cricket fanatics who frankly would want to watch cricket in their sleep. There are not that many of us and no one thinks its economically feasible for it.
 
comon guys stop bikering about what cricinfo....lets focus on PAK vs SA game please.
 
Saqlain_doosra said:
I am complaining about crapinfo and broadcasters showing only India and England matches.

You still haven't answered my question?

I have mentioned this twice already in this thread.
 
Why don't you go and ask Osman Samiuddin, he is on cricinfo staff, you don't complain when you read the articles there, stop bitching all the time and think from head not the other way around....i mean snap out of that "whole world is against us" mode....
 
traveller007 said:
Well since everyone thinks its crapinfo and its biased towards india, and they seem to KNOW it already, then why go there and why complain. Well cricinfo, generally has done a good job, and they have faltered in a couple of matches and lot of people start moaning oh "the whole world is against pakistan". C'mon people show some logic.

ermm - I never said anything about "world against Pakistan".. I'm only trying to make a point that the coverage is crap today, not just cricinfo's but other orgs like GEO etc. !! read my post again!!!
 
traveller007 said:
Well since everyone thinks its crapinfo and its biased towards india, and they seem to KNOW it already, then why go there and why complain. Well cricinfo, generally has done a good job, and they have faltered in a couple of matches and lot of people start moaning oh "the whole world is against pakistan". C'mon people show some logic.

The problem is crapinfo only covering india and england matches. This is not the first time. MCC comes out with some bogus theory why they been doing that for last 2 worm up matches played by both teams.

Tell me why they have been covering only india and england in warm up matches.
 
traveller007 said:
Well since everyone thinks its crapinfo and its biased towards india, and they seem to KNOW it already, then why go there and why complain. Well cricinfo, generally has done a good job, and they have faltered in a couple of matches and lot of people start moaning oh "the whole world is against pakistan". C'mon people show some logic.

get one thing traveller if you want to be at the top ...you must set STANDARDS!! :30:

Cricinf are good ...but they are slipping in my opinion.
 
classic said:
get one thing traveller if you want to be at the top ...you must set STANDARDS!! :30:

Cricinf are good ...but they are slipping in my opinion.


A little competition won't hurt.
 
Saqlain_doosra said:
The problem is crapinfo only covering india and england matches. This is not the first time. MCC comes out with some bogus theory why they been doing that for last 2 worm up matches played by both teams.

Tell me why they have been covering only india and england in warm up matches.

Because they were the matches that were being televised. Thats why cricinfo was covering them ball by ball. guys Cricinfo don't send their staff to every match for their ball by ball coverage.

I will agree with you here, the games were set up so that India, england, Australia and West Indies would get the most TV exposure. This was built into the schedule. But every broadcaster and rights holder has promised full coverage of every ball of the world cup so it shouldn't matter then.

These teams were chosen by the organizers as they will return the most profits.

These two matches are being shown right now as the infrastructure is in place for the opening ceremony and the second game. It will cost too much to go to Trinidad right now, show the Pakistan wamrup and then come back and cover the opening ceremony or the second game. Also it will cost too much to hire additional teams to go cover this warm up. Why wont people just understand!
 
I agree with that, but have some patience, they are the only site fully dedicated to cricket and quite professional in my view, they seem to have more indian people on their staff, so it seems like india biased, but they have some pakistanis on their staff too, and I don't believe its a conspiracy not to show games of pakistan, its just some mess-up in the managing the resources. Having said that, they are giving full attention to india matches, but that would have to do with cricinfo staff , who are indians.
 
mcm !!!! are u still arguing if they were not posting the updates for indian match?????
 
Pace said:
A little competition won't hurt.
I agree with that, but have some patience, they are the only site fully dedicated to cricket and quite professional in my view, they seem to have more indian people on their staff, so it seems like india biased, but they have some pakistanis on their staff too, and I don't believe its a conspiracy not to show games of pakistan, its just some mess-up in the managing the resources. Having said that, they are giving full attention to india matches, but that would have to do with cricinfo staff , who are indians.
 
FATIMA said:
comon guys stop bikering about what cricinfo....lets focus on PAK vs SA game please.

We are bickering about cricinfo because we have no idea whats happening in the game! :))) :))) Have to wait for some updates to come through.
 
guys check out watsons 6 off lewis couple of minutes ago

a little flick sort of pull
reminds me of some pakistani player but i cant work out who

please help me out
 
MCMLXXXII said:
Why wont people just understand!

As main website for cricket it should cover these macthes. They are being played by international teams. It's just not good enough.
 
Saqlain_doosra said:
As main website for cricket it should cover these macthes. They are being played by international teams. It's just not good enough.

First, it is not an official match.

Second, did you ever pay them to cover it? They will cover whatever they want to cover. Stop complaining about them. If you don't like them don't go to their website. No one stopped you.
 
gambino said:
guys check out watsons 6 off lewis couple of minutes ago

a little flick sort of pull
reminds me of some pakistani player but i cant work out who

please help me out

moin khan? nazir?
 
:D
MCMLXXXII said:
We are bickering about cricinfo because we have no idea whats happening in the game! :))) :))) Have to wait for some updates to come through.

i wonder if we would still be bickering if we were being hammered today?? :D :D
 
If the pitch has awkward bounce, and is behaving erratically, is it worthwhile to send in our batsmen, and risk an injury, three days before the first game?

Unless the conditions are not as bad as reported elsewhere, I'd like to propose that we ask the authorities that the game be abandoned.

I'd call this game a success because our bowling clicked ... everyone got a chance to bowl, and did decent. The only unresolved problem with our bowling is Rana Naveed.

Any thoughts???
 
Obsessed_in_a_good_way said:
If the pitch has awkward bounce, and is behaving erratically, is it worthwhile to send in our batsmen, and risk an injury, three days before the first game?

Unless the conditions are not as bad as reported elsewhere, I'd like to propose that we ask the authorities that the game be abandoned.

I'd call this game a success because our bowling clicked ... everyone got a chance to bowl, and did decent. The only unresolved problem with our bowling is Rana Naveed.

Any thoughts???

definetly NOOOOOO!!!

We should at least get a chance to see the batting against No1 team.
 
Prince said:
Pakistan omitted all-rounder Yasir Arafat and fast bowler Mohammed Sami from their expanded 13-man squad.

Opening bowlers Mohammed Sami and Umar Gul found some extravagant lift, but also saw some deliveries shoot along the ground.

:13:
 
By all accounts Gibbs got a real beauty from Sami, lifted off a length. DeVilliers played back to one that he should have played forward to and was plumb in front. Gul made Smith look like a mug when he flattened his stumps.
 
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