PCB Patron's XI vs England XI (Day 2 thread)

[Lightning]

Thanks for the insight.

 

[Waseem]

Yasir Arafat's performance has surprised me, i saw him bowl against Australia A and he looked nothing special. He has short runup, bowls at Razzaq's pace but YES, he got some swing but didn't think he can be that effective. It's not that he has achieved something extraordinary, this track was tailor made for such bowlers but what's impressive is that all six of his wickets were BOWLED. That's impressive indeed!!!!!!

I always knew Najaf is a good bowler, he is one of those bowlers who looks so dangerous in one over but bowls RUBBISH in the next. But then most of the young and talented bowlers have similar problems. It's upto them how much they wanna improve with practice and training.

Irshad also either destroys the opposition or goes wicketless.

 

[DM]

Again, let me say that I have only seen them bowl in a couple of games...so don't believe 100% of what I say but surely the truth is some where in there too

Yasir looked more disciplined, better built of the two cause he is taller and when he fills up with age, he will be really built like a young Ian Bishop (i.e. if he works on his fitness from here on), he swung the ball at quite serious pace, and his line-n-length was much better

Irshad is built well for his height but I thought he could become better if he tightened his stomach area which kinda looked pudgy (a la Shoaiby these days), he had just decreased his run up a bit as per advice of Sadiq Mohammed (ext-Test Opener and Multan team's coach now), he had a very powerful approach to the wicket and was building speed towards the end but when I saw him he wasn't looking like the finished product.

Since then he has bowled well in almost in every game that he has been part of so something is going right for him. Maybe he has finally become comfortable with his shorter run up and has worked on his fitness. He swung the ball but I don't have too much recollection of how well he did that

Interesting report, I wonder if either Irshad or Yasir Ali have been timed recently after refining their actions

 

[tahaqureshi]

Maybe if wasim bari wasnt selector...one of Yasir Ali, M Irshad and Yasir Arafat qould surely be in the squad.

 

[ZM]

gwaaaaaaan pakiz, i jus checked the score as i in school,
39-6 lmaooooooooooo

 

[HAFRIDI]

wow what a performance, well done irshaad and yasiR!!!

 

[MIG]

As usual its the batsman who need to prove themselves now!! Cmon Pak batsman - win this for Pakistan !!!

 

[Muddaser]

And well played Zulqarnain for his 34 not out.

Again the only Pakistani batsmen who looked comfortable out there.

 

[kas]

And well played Zulqarnain for his 34 not out.

Again the only Pakistani batsmen who looked comfortable out there.

did u watch the match? how do u know he looked comfortabe? are u just assuming he looked comfortable cos he made 34 not out

 

[Muddaser]

did u watch the match? how do u know he looked comfortabe? are u just assuming he looked comfortable cos he made 34 not out

I'm assuming cause I have seen him do it many times. Forget the runs, he faced 90 deliveries.

The guy has a better technique than most our specialist batsmen.

 

[kas]

I'm assuming cause I have seen him do it many times.

The guy has a better technique than most our specialist batsmen.

do u think he can challenge akmal?

 

[Amir_rulez]

Zulqarnain is proly a better option than Adnan Akmal and Humayun Farhat in absence of Kamran Akmal.

 

[Muddaser]

do u think he can challenge akmal?

Akmal is the better keeper but Zunlqarnains keeping is very good too.

Zulqarnain is the better batsmen but Akmal is also very good too.

 

[Muddaser]

Zulqarnain is proly a better option than Adnan Akmal and Humayun Farhat in absence of Kamran Akmal.

Well he is the only option.

Go check the players on central contracts and retainer contracts.

That will tell you clearly which players are next in line.

 

[Monsee]

do u think he can challenge akmal?

I personally think that had Akmal not improved his glove work and batting, in the last year or so..Zoni would have gotten in the team in place of Akmal!

This kid is just that good. His keeping is just about as good as Kamran's, maybe a bit less at the moment but with FC experience he will become even better

His batting is as Muddaser said "Better than most of our proper batsmen"...when he bats, it's this calmness of approach, time to play the shot, playing each ball on the merit, and always playing valuable innings under pressure, that reminds me of a younger Inzi.

By no stretch, I am saying he is as good as Inzi in batting, but his calm and composed style is reminiscent of a younger Inzi

 

[Amir_rulez]

"he is the only option",
"Better than most of our proper batsmen",
"playing each ball on the merit, and always playing valuable innings under pressure"
....
bottomline: Is he playing in the first test or not? Is K.Akmal injured for real or was that just a rumor? ........Noddy bhai?

 

[Hydro]

does any one know if bob was watching this match so he could see the talent of the reserve bowlers himself

 

[Hash]

Bob was definitely there on day 1. I saw him on sky sports news talking to duncan fletcher.

 

[immubhai]

Akmal is for sure injured. I have seen the highlights myself. He was bowled a very fast yorker of Shoaib. The bowl was too good and they had to take Akmal out while holding him on arms. Akmal had his shoe off and he was escorted with the physio. I have seen Zoni batting yesterday and i must say, Zoni is a very hot contender for the place.. I was just wondering how come he was not sent up in the batting order. He looked like a complete batsman and i am of Monsee's opinion regarding Zoni's batting.

 

[Amir_rulez]

Well, ok. Zoni is in then.

 

[immubhai]

Najaf Shah's bowling action and speed has reminded of young Wasim Akram. I really have no clue why they had taken Khalil with to Austrailia? or why Woolmer cant spot the talent in Najaf shah? Yasir Arafat ......Mohammad Irshad......i dont know, personally i like more Yasir Ali. I tell you guys, this bloke is going to be our next Waqar younus. He is fast ( probably the fin the 85-88 zone) and right on target. He was bowling on the right length. Wicket-to-wicket. No idea why they took Rao, Khalil, Sami to Austrailia? a tour like that could have brought more and early success to Shah, Yasir Ali.

 

[Monsee]

Najaf Shah's bowling action and speed has reminded of young Wasim Akram. I really have no clue why they had taken Khalil with to Austrailia? or why Woolmer cant spot the talent in Najaf shah? Yasir Arafat ......Mohammad Irshad......i dont know, personally i like more Yasir Ali. I tell you guys, this bloke is going to be our next Waqar younus. He is fast ( probably the fin the 85-88 zone) and right on target. He was bowling on the right length. Wicket-to-wicket. No idea why they took Rao, Khalil, Sami to Austrailia? a tour like that could have brought more and early success to Shah, Yasir Ali.

When I spoke highly of Yasir Ali in March, after seeing him in the domestic games, no one really listened...I guess Monsee's cricketing vision is shocking and challenging for a few here

Hopefully now everyone's attention is on this kid...lets bombard Bob with questions about Yasir Ali and Najaf Shah...come on

 

[immubhai]

I already did Monsee ji,cheers

 

[Amjid Javed]

well done patrons x1. lets hope the batsmen make a better fist of batting 2nd time round and gain a victory over england!

 

[w4s1m786]

i think most people knew of yasir ali's talent when he made his test debut at the age of 18

 

[Monsee]

i think most people knew of yasir ali's talent when he made his test debut at the age of 18

But they also discarded him quickly as they called him another 'Chucker'...his old action was really dodgy

His new action is as clean as it can be though

 

[Shoaib A]

its such a joke to see england batting like this... but just wait u will see, that they can bat even better against pak... england are experimenting to much with pitch, bowling and batting......

 

[Monsee]

its such a joke to see england batting like this... but just wait u will see, that they can bat even better against pak... england are experimenting to much with pitch, bowling and batting......

How do you suppose they can do that...they are not in UK, if U didn't notice that

 

[Usman]

Ok true these guys are good bowlers but most of you are jumping to the conclusion that all 4 should replace the current 4 pacers which is a very wrong conclusion! If England had got their act together today you guys would be saying "I always knew that Irshad/Ali/Arafat/Shah were overhyped" so don't so quickly jump to say that all these bowlers are international standard just by watching a single game! I look into this performance with the view that it speaks well for the FUTURE of Pakistan cricket. Currently however Shoaib,Shabbir,Rana,Sami and Gul are the best pacers available in the whole of Pakistan because these are the ones who are international standard already. The rest have bright futures in Pakistan cricket however there time has not come yet. Be a little patient!

 

[Shoaib A]

How do you suppose they can do that...they are not in UK, if U didn't notice that

well I meant, that they are making too much out of it, eventhough they know that subcontinent pitches are different.... so they are experimenting in some way I would say...

 

[Jonty]

thats awesome.. i would really like to see footage of these bowlers. I also want to see how Arafats batting is..

 

[akpower]

arafat has been doing awfully well in the recent past, but because of abdul razaq he hasnt been able to get a chance in the squad. i'm not saying it coz of this game, coz after all its only ONE game, but this guy should be part of our odi roster. alot of his critics would say that he is just an average medium pacer, but really he has been very successful in our domestic cricket and deserves a shot at the national squad. i hope our board doesnt wastes him. i'm not saying that he will be a surefire hit, but atleast give him some reward for his performances in first class matches.

 

[akpower]

Najaf Shah's bowling action and speed has reminded of young Wasim Akram. I really have no clue why they had taken Khalil with to Austrailia? or why Woolmer cant spot the talent in Najaf shah? Yasir Arafat ......Mohammad Irshad......i dont know, personally i like more Yasir Ali. I tell you guys, this bloke is going to be our next Waqar younus. He is fast ( probably the fin the 85-88 zone) and right on target. He was bowling on the right length. Wicket-to-wicket. No idea why they took Rao, Khalil, Sami to Austrailia? a tour like that could have brought more and early success to Shah, Yasir Ali.

did u even watch the odi's in australia? rao did very well, considering it was his first tour where he got consistent chances to play. y the took sami and khalil is another story!

 

[akpower]

But they also discarded him quickly as they called him another 'Chucker'...his old action was really dodgy

His new action is as clean as it can be though

Aamir sohail is the one who spotted him. lets give him credit for that. if he kept his head a little cooler, he would have styll been the chief selector. but knowing him, that obviously was not possible! Though I styll like him better then bari.

 

[w4s1m786]

if ammir sohail was still a selector he would of picked Yasir ali and some of the other youngsters by now and Mohammed Hafeez would be captain aswell

 

[Monsee]

Aamir sohail is the one who spotted him. lets give him credit for that. if he kept his head a little cooler, he would have styll been the chief selector. but knowing him, that obviously was not possible! Though I styll like him better then bari.

I believe Yasir Ali was playing at Rashid Latif academy at that time...so I am not sure if Aamir should get all the credit