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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Chinaman: The legend of Kuldeep Yadav

He will become a Legend now after winning India their 2nd WT20. Unfortunately he couldn't perform in WC 2023 Final. But he will have his chance again in this WT20.
 
JaDed said:
We will lol like we did against Pak, eventhough Kuldeeep has Babar’s number.
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There is absolutely no cricketing logic in playing Jadeja ahead of Kuldeep in any format, any conditions, any ground.

But he is still gets picked ahead of Kuldeep as if it's his birth right to be in XI, regardless of the format.
 
MP2011 said:
There is absolutely no cricketing logic in playing Jadeja ahead of Kuldeep in any format, any conditions, any ground.

But he is still gets picked ahead of Kuldeep as it's his birth right to be in XI, regardless of the format.
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In Tests Jadeja is great but white ball you cannot drop Kuldeep.
 
A chinaman bowler is always dangerous , wrist spinners maybe expensive sometimes , but they are always wicket taking.
 
Kuldeep has lot of control for a wrist spinner, you hardly see him bowling full tosses. His economy in T20Is is just 6.7, which is brilliant for a wrist spinner.
 
Not sure why India was not playing him before but he came at the right moment. Probably the match-winning spell from him against Australia. Maxwell would have smashed them but he got him out at the right moment, cheaply.
 
I'd be so mad if Kuldeep does not play all 10 tests scheduled over the next 12 months in AUS and ENG.

One of Ashwin/jadeja to make way for him.
 
And to think Chahal was preferred over him for some time!

Jadeja at least has an excuse of being pseudo all rounder, what does Chahal bring to the table?
 
AMSS said:
I'd be so mad if Kuldeep does not play all 10 tests scheduled over the next 12 months in AUS and ENG.

One of Ashwin/jadeja to make way for him.
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Hard to drop either of them, but with the way Kuldeep batted against England, India might just play 3 spinners + 2 pacers. How are you going to drop two bowlers who took 29 & 19 wickets respectively in the recent series and have 516 & 294 Test wickets? Kuldeep, Jadeja & Ashwin played 4 Tests together against England and we will see the same combination against Bangladesh and New Zealand. No need to drop anyone in home Tests, just two pacers are more than enough. In Australia though India will play with just 1 spinner unless it is Sydney, so there may be Kuldeep can play as the lone spinner but not for the home Tests.
 
MP2011 said:
And to think Chahal was preferred over him for some time!

Jadeja at least has an excuse of being pseudo all rounder, what does Chahal bring to the table?
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Chahal was not preferred, Kuldeep himself lost his form and was even benched from KKR side at that time. Kudos to him for going away and working on his bowling and coming back strong. Chahal and Kuldeep played as a combination but Kuldeep lost his form and was dropped as he wasn't picking up wickets and was expensive as well.
 
giri26 said:
Hard to drop either of them, but with the way Kuldeep batted against England, India might just play 3 spinners + 2 pacers. How are you going to drop two bowlers who took 29 & 19 wickets respectively in the recent series and have 516 & 294 Test wickets? Kuldeep, Jadeja & Ashwin played 4 Tests together against England and we will see the same combination against Bangladesh and New Zealand. No need to drop anyone in home Tests, just two pacers are more than enough. In Australia though India will play with just 1 spinner unless it is Sydney, so there may be Kuldeep can play as the lone spinner but not for the home Tests.
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I am specifically talking about overseas tests. India could easily go with just Kuldeep as their sole spin option or pair him with Jadeja. It's not a hard decision.
 
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giri26 said:
Chahal was not preferred, Kuldeep himself lost his form and was even benched from KKR side at that time. Kudos to him for going away and working on his bowling and coming back strong. Chahal and Kuldeep played as a combination but Kuldeep lost his form and was dropped as he wasn't picking up wickets and was expensive as well.
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Kuldeep was dropped even after performing well in his last game.

He took 5 wickets in an ODI. He was dropped next game.

He was MoM in that test against BD. He was dropped for next test.

As for Chahal, even an out of form and injured Kuldeep is ahead of him in all facets of the game. There is no reason why Chahal should be picked at all in any format.
 
Also, getting dropped by an IPL team doesn't mean much because these franchisees are business entities who go by their own interests.
 
MP2011 said:
Kuldeep was dropped even after performing well in his last game.

He took 5 wickets in an ODI. He was dropped next game.

He was MoM in that test against BD. He was dropped for next test.

As for Chahal, even an out of form and injured Kuldeep is ahead of him in all facets of the game. There is no reason why Chahal should be picked at all in any format.
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This is the record of Kuldeep between 2020-2022, 17 games 20 wickets, average of 45.55 and economy of 5.87. This is the phase where he lost his spot in the playing X1. During the same time Chahal played 20 games and took 33 wickets at an average of 28.4 and economy of 5.7. This is the time when Chahal was preferred more but even then Kuldeep played almost same number of games as Chahal even though the latter was doing better. Kuldeep after getting dropped revamped, worked on his game and made a comeback in 2023 and since then he has been playing without being dropped. It was not the high average or economy, he was not effective at all in ODIs during that period. Chahal just played as a default as India needed an experienced spinner in ODIs and he wasn't doing that bad during the same period.
 
giri26 said:
This is the record of Kuldeep between 2020-2022, 17 games 20 wickets, average of 45.55 and economy of 5.87. This is the phase where he lost his spot in the playing X1. During the same time Chahal played 20 games and took 33 wickets at an average of 28.4 and economy of 5.7. This is the time when Chahal was preferred more but even then Kuldeep played almost same number of games as Chahal even though the latter was doing better. Kuldeep after getting dropped revamped, worked on his game and made a comeback in 2023 and since then he has been playing without being dropped. It was not the high average or economy, he was not effective at all in ODIs during that period. Chahal just played as a default as India needed an experienced spinner in ODIs and he wasn't doing that bad during the same period.
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In Tests it was more of Ashwin and Jadeja being in the team and the rise of Axar for a while which meant that he was kept out. The reason being the the above 3 were getting a lots of wickets and were also contributing with the bat at home. It was hard to keep Kuldeep in the team. I am sure after the England series he isn't going to miss out on any home games anymore. Not sure what India will do in Australia but I hope he plays all the games.
 
Piyush Chawla, the veteran Indian leg-spinner, while speaking to a sports program on a local media platform:

"Kuldeep Yadav's resurgence has been one of the greatest comebacks in the history of Indian cricket. His absence in the 2022 semi-final was a significant miss for India, but this time, he's in prime form and ready to make a substantial impact. Kuldeep's unorthodox left-arm wrist spin and the ability to extract turn and bounce, coupled with his deceptive variations, can be a game-changer in the middle overs."

"He also has a good record playing against England. In the upcoming semi-final, Kuldeep will be crucial in disrupting England's aggressive batting mantra. He will be India's trump card against England's explosive batting order. Given his current form and confidence, Kuldeep Yadav is poised to be a significant threat, making the middle overs a challenging period for England batsmen."
 
It would be Kuldeep vs South Africa tomorrow, any turning track would be a bowling heaven for him.
 
MP2011 said:
Kuldeep was dropped even after performing well in his last game.

He took 5 wickets in an ODI. He was dropped next game.

He was MoM in that test against BD. He was dropped for next test.

As for Chahal, even an out of form and injured Kuldeep is ahead of him in all facets of the game. There is no reason why Chahal should be picked at all in any format.
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Axar was played ahead of Kuldeep in the recently concluded England series.

Kuldeep got his chance because of Jadeja s injury.

And after his brilliant performance team management had to play him ahead of Axar.

Dravid is a very biased coach.

See how he kept Playing KL till media pressure forced him.

Then Axar ahead of Kuldeep.

Now Dube ahead of Samson.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Axar was played ahead of Kuldeep in the recently concluded England series.

Kuldeep got his chance because of Jadeja s injury.

And after his brilliant performance team management had to play him ahead of Axar.

Dravid is a very biased coach.

See how he kept Playing KL till media pressure forced him.

Then Axar ahead of Kuldeep.

Now Dube ahead of Samson.
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Tbf Kuldeep lost confidence in 2019 so he did need a break. The added pace has made him devastating now. The accuracy is also insane.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Tbf Kuldeep lost confidence in 2019 so he did need a break. The added pace has made him devastating now. The accuracy is also insane.
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He has added 5 ks to his average pace. There is this slide on deliveries that he delivers at 115 kph at times. Also his landing has improved a lot. Trajectory has gotten slightly flatter occasionally. Sure he can also go for runs. Part of parcel of a wrist spinners career.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Axar was played ahead of Kuldeep in the recently concluded England series.

Kuldeep got his chance because of Jadeja s injury.

And after his brilliant performance team management had to play him ahead of Axar.

Dravid is a very biased coach.

See how he kept Playing KL till media pressure forced him.

Then Axar ahead of Kuldeep.

Now Dube ahead of Samson.
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Thank god, Dravid is leaving or else we'd have to put up with him during Australia tour.

Hope Gambhir is better judge of talent.
 
MP2011 said:
Thank god, Dravid is leaving or else we'd have to put up with him during Australia tour.

Hope Gambhir is better judge of talent.
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Dont know. If it was his input that helped choose the Zimbabwe squad, i am not hopeful.

Bhai if GG doesn't perform, please don't blame the sangh.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Dont know. If it was his input that helped choose the Zimbabwe squad, i am not hopeful.

Bhai if GG doesn't perform, please don't blame the sangh.
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Lol, I won't blame anyone. Hope things don't come to that pass.

As for Zimbabwe team, well what one can say! Dube has somehow sneaked in the squad despite not being originally there.
 
If Gambo takes over then perhaps we might see Kuldeep feature in all the 10 (potentially 11) tests lined up in AUS/ENG over the next 12 months.

Only one of Ashwin/Jaddu has to play and pair with Kuldeep based on form and opposition. Of course, all 3 canplay at home or subcontinent like conditions.

The fact that Pant, Jaiswal, Gill are going to be in the playing Xi should ease the anxiety of TM who feel Ashwin/Jaddu combo provides them with some batting cushion.
 
Kuldeep will be the guy who is the key against South African batters in the final. He has been phenomenal so far and his partnership with Axar is working perfectly atm.
 
AMSS said:
If Gambo takes over then perhaps we might see Kuldeep feature in all the 10 (potentially 11) tests lined up in AUS/ENG over the next 12 months.

Only one of Ashwin/Jaddu has to play and pair with Kuldeep based on form and opposition. Of course, all 3 canplay at home or subcontinent like conditions.

The fact that Pant, Jaiswal, Gill are going to be in the playing Xi should ease the anxiety of TM who feel Ashwin/Jaddu combo provides them with some batting cushion.
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Kuldeep can also give that batting cushion, he has improved his batting... Outside India anyways batting of Ashwin/Jadeja cannot be totally trusted. Until we find a batting alrounder with spin bowling skills, we need to select proper spinner (wrist spinner particularly) outside India as our lone spinner and we need to find other arrangements to provide cushion to our batting (even if it means we play only 4 bowlers)
 
Kuldeep Yadav while speaking to the local media:

"This World Cup was for him [Rohit Sharma], the way he planned and the way he loved this team. The intent and approach that he used to talk about in team meetings, he implemented that in the tournament while batting, led from the front. So this trophy is for him."

"There is probably no better feeling than this,. In the final Virat bhai hit the 70-odd runs, won the player of the match. I am sure he will be very happy with his career in the T20 format, same for Rohit bhai. Jadeja as well, he played such brilliant cricket over the years."
 
RamLakhan said:
Kuldeep can also give that batting cushion, he has improved his batting... Outside India anyways batting of Ashwin/Jadeja cannot be totally trusted. Until we find a batting alrounder with spin bowling skills, we need to select proper spinner (wrist spinner particularly) outside India as our lone spinner and we need to find other arrangements to provide cushion to our batting (even if it means we play only 4 bowlers)
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Fun fact : Since 2018 (I.e last 6.5 years), Jadeja averages 33.25 in SA, Eng, Aus and NZ. To put things into perspective, no Indian batter averages more than 40 in the same period.

Also since 2020, Jadeja's avg of 29.8 is 4th in thr list after Pant (38.8), Rohit (37.8) and Kohli (30.3). He is good enough to be playing as a specialist option in SENA and his bowling is a big bonus (and he avgs a handy 32.2 since 2018).

Kuldeep and Jaddu should be playing all tests regardless of location from now on and Ashwin as the third option. Axar is not a proven quantity especially overseas and his bowling has fallen off after an amazing debut but primarily on home grounds.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Tbf Kuldeep lost confidence in 2019 so he did need a break. The added pace has made him devastating now. The accuracy is also insane.
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By sep 21,kd was back with new innovations and he bamboozled sa first eleven in 3 match odi series. Dravid was blind to hold on to chahal even when kd was man of the match for taking 10 wickets against bng in Dec 21.Dravid will never throw any one out and will test the patience of fans with his bias.
 
Vikram1989 said:
By sep 21,kd was back with new innovations and he bamboozled sa first eleven in 3 match odi series. Dravid was blind to hold on to chahal even when kd was man of the match for taking 10 wickets against bng in Dec 21.Dravid will never throw any one out and will test the patience of fans with his bias.
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I mean 22 in both cases
 
Sir Alex said:
Fun fact : Since 2018 (I.e last 6.5 years), Jadeja averages 33.25 in SA, Eng, Aus and NZ. To put things into perspective, no Indian batter averages more than 40 in the same period.

Also since 2020, Jadeja's avg of 29.8 is 4th in thr list after Pant (38.8), Rohit (37.8) and Kohli (30.3). He is good enough to be playing as a specialist option in SENA and his bowling is a big bonus (and he avgs a handy 32.2 since 2018).

Kuldeep and Jaddu should be playing all tests regardless of location from now on and Ashwin as the third option. Axar is not a proven quantity especially overseas and his bowling has fallen off after an amazing debut but primarily on home grounds.
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Yes, it is actually unfortunate that we have Jadeja as our best batsman at No.6... India plays extra bowler solely for this reason (Jadeja being a better batsman than any of our batting option at No.6) Actually we need a more reliable primary batsman who can bowl some part-time spin. (even if it is Joe Root quality spinner it is enough) It would have been ideal if one of our top order batsmen could bowl some spin. In that case we would have played a proper spinner (even if it meant he is a weaker batsman - like say Kuldeep) With Indian fast bowling culture improving, we lost batsmen who could roll over their arms (like Sehwag, Yuvaraj, Raina, etc).

The problem with Jadeja is he is forcing us to select 5 bowlers all the time and also include a bits-n-piece bowler like Thakur. Overall we are effectively playing 3 bowlers and 5 batsmen + 1 WK (in overseas), and if Pant is not available then it weakens the balance further more! Instead of this, it is better we go with 6 proper batsmen + 4 proper bowlers (3 proper pacers + 1 proper spinner) + 1 WK (Pant is ideal)
 
This combination (inclusion of Jadeja in overseas tests + Thakur) has cost us many series in England, South Africa...
 
Wish Pakistan can find a bowler like Kuldeep Yadav, a quality spinner is dearly required
 
RamLakhan said:
Yes, it is actually unfortunate that we have Jadeja as our best batsman at No.6... India plays extra bowler solely for this reason (Jadeja being a better batsman than any of our batting option at No.6) Actually we need a more reliable primary batsman who can bowl some part-time spin. (even if it is Joe Root quality spinner it is enough) It would have been ideal if one of our top order batsmen could bowl some spin. In that case we would have played a proper spinner (even if it meant he is a weaker batsman - like say Kuldeep) With Indian fast bowling culture improving, we lost batsmen who could roll over their arms (like Sehwag, Yuvaraj, Raina, etc).

The problem with Jadeja is he is forcing us to select 5 bowlers all the time and also include a bits-n-piece bowler like Thakur. Overall we are effectively playing 3 bowlers and 5 batsmen + 1 WK (in overseas), and if Pant is not available then it weakens the balance further more! Instead of this, it is better we go with 6 proper batsmen + 4 proper bowlers (3 proper pacers + 1 proper spinner) + 1 WK (Pant is ideal)
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I don't get it. That seems like a great problem to have. Jadeja has the third best average (51.63) of any batter batting at 6 or 7 in the last 5 years in world cricket. Only Dhananjay Silva and Joss Buttler are better and they play as full batters. Even away he's top 10. So basically you're getting a top class late order batter who's pretty good at bowling and is a great fielder. I can't see what else you could ask for. He averages better in tests (home and away) than the likes of Yuvraj and Raina who used to play in that slot earlier AND is a better bowler than them

It's not his fault that the Indian team management is looking for even more insurance and preferring bowlers who can bat a bit like Thakur. They should trust in his batting and play match-winning bowlers (if available).
 
RamLakhan said:
Yes, it is actually unfortunate that we have Jadeja as our best batsman at No.6... India plays extra bowler solely for this reason (Jadeja being a better batsman than any of our batting option at No.6) Actually we need a more reliable primary batsman who can bowl some part-time spin. (even if it is Joe Root quality spinner it is enough) It would have been ideal if one of our top order batsmen could bowl some spin. In that case we would have played a proper spinner (even if it meant he is a weaker batsman - like say Kuldeep) With Indian fast bowling culture improving, we lost batsmen who could roll over their arms (like Sehwag, Yuvaraj, Raina, etc).

The problem with Jadeja is he is forcing us to select 5 bowlers all the time and also include a bits-n-piece bowler like Thakur. Overall we are effectively playing 3 bowlers and 5 batsmen + 1 WK (in overseas), and if Pant is not available then it weakens the balance further more! Instead of this, it is better we go with 6 proper batsmen + 4 proper bowlers (3 proper pacers + 1 proper spinner) + 1 WK (Pant is ideal)
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My point is that Jadeja is performing better than so called specialist batsmen and hence good enough to be considered as a batter on his own accord. His numbers are there for everyone to see. And he has always made the hard runs. Standing up when the team needs.

Thakur did a very good job as a bowler in Aus and Eng conditions and delivered with the bat too in test cricket.

Jadeja is not forcing to.play 5 bowlers , but rather he is giving India the opportunity to play an additional spinner if needed and 3 pacers or 4 full time pacers as he can fill in the spinner role if required.

The primary issue that has been plaguing India overseas has not been of bowlers but pathetic batsmanship by the top order especially since Covid. Pujara, Kohli and Rahane all have been dire and KL couldn't step up either (neither did Shreyas). Thankfully India has moved on from Pujara and Rahane and I hope they do with Kohli as well. Time to give Jaiswal and Gill a proper run and Sarfaraz as well. These 3 can be the new pillar of Indian test team in future and will significantly reduce the pressure on Pant and Jadeja and lower order a lot.

For me the ideal team if its a decent Melbourne pitch is as follows

Rohit c
Jaiswal
Gill
Kohli
Pant (wk)
Sarfaraz
Jadeja
Bumrah
Kuldeep
Shami
Siraj
 
RamLakhan said:
This combination (inclusion of Jadeja in overseas tests + Thakur) has cost us many series in England, South Africa...
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They both have played only 4 overseas tests together and India have won 2, drew 1 and lost 1 (Bairstow freak innings waala).
 
Red-Indian said:
I don't get it. That seems like a great problem to have. Jadeja has the third best average (51.63) of any batter batting at 6 or 7 in the last 5 years in world cricket. Only Dhananjay Silva and Joss Buttler are better and they play as full batters. Even away he's top 10. So basically you're getting a top class late order batter who's pretty good at bowling and is a great fielder. I can't see what else you could ask for. He averages better in tests (home and away) than the likes of Yuvraj and Raina who used to play in that slot earlier AND is a better bowler than them

It's not his fault that the Indian team management is looking for even more insurance and preferring bowlers who can bat a bit like Thakur. They should trust in his batting and play match-winning bowlers (if available).
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I just don't understand the criticism vs Jadeja in tests.

In the last 5 years, he is averaging over 40.8 with the bat and less than 25 with the ball.

During the same period, Outside Asia, he averages 34 with the bat and 28.5 with the ball. For a spinning allrounder that's terrific numbers. He averages under 25 with the ball in WI, Aus and NZ.
 
Kuldeep Yadav now has the fifth-best strike rate in ODI cricket

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Kuldeep Yadav, who is currently in Australia for a short family trip, stated during a media interaction:

"As cricketers, we will play wherever we are sent. I have never been to Pakistan before, so I am excited. The Pakistani people are great, and whenever we get the chance, we will definitely go and play there."
 
Kuldeep Yadav dismissed Salman Ali Agha in the group-stage encounter of the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 to complete his 300th international wicket
 
Kuldeep Yadav holds the third-best strike rate among bowlers with at least 300 international wickets.

With 302 wickets in 170 innings, he boasts an average of 22.70 and a strike rate of 28.3.

Miss 300 wickets*

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Kuldeep is the real bogeyman​

While Kohli gets all the attention — and deservedly so — for his demolition job against Pakistan match in, match out, one man whose impact in this particular matchup is not talked enough is Kuldeep Yadav.

The left-arm spinner has developed a liking for Pakistan greater than even Kohli. This is because despite all that we think of Kohli, whose ODI batting average of 59.84 against Pakistan is only marginally better than his career average of 58.2. He does things to Pakistan but he does it to everyone else, too. Yadav, on the other hand, has a Pakistan specific bowling average of 14.0, which is almost 100pc better than his career ODI average of 26.24.

Almost every time he has been given the ball in an ODI against Pakistan, he has picked up key wickets, and this Sunday was no different. The 30-year-old picked up three this time and conceded just 40 in his nine overs.

Being troubled in this fashion is almost strange and a far cry from the 1990s when Pakistan batters used to absolutely dominate spinners. But let’s not touch this sob-fest of what we used to be and what we are now.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1893855/5-takeaways-as-india-exposes-pakistans-50-over-frailties-yet-again
 
FearlessRoar said:
Kuldeep Yadav holds the third-best strike rate among bowlers with at least 300 international wickets.

With 302 wickets in 170 innings, he boasts an average of 22.70 and a strike rate of 28.3.

Miss 300 wickets*

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Wow i never Zampa’s SR was so good. Always goes under the radar this little man.
 
Game changer

He will go down one of the greatest LOI spinners ever
 
Kuldeep Yadav’s improved alignment in 2025, with a closer landing position, better body control and an upright posture

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