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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Controversial dismissal of Yashasvi Jaiswal in India's 2nd innings of the 4th Test against Australia – a fair call or a mistake?

Was Yashasvi Jaiswal's dismissal in the 4th Test against Australia fair?

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oatmeal said:
It was out but if Pakistan was at the receiving end of such a decision, there would 100% be threads complaining about it. its one of those things which stings if you are at the receiving end but not if you are a neutral
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Well currently its india complaining about it
 
Snowflake said:
The biggest load of bull I have heard in a while.

He used the evidence based on his vision. The deflection was so big that you do not even need intricate technology to prove it.

What in the world are you on about?
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His team lost so understandable why something as clear as this dismissal is hard to digest. Jasiwal was initially walking when reviewed. It wasn't even an edge, it hit his bat right at the top and then glove. Something like this should be given out after the initial replay.
 
The whole rule is stupid.

Overwhelming conclusive is itself ambiguous.

Indian fans can claim wrong decision but since the rule itself allows it, so it's out regardless it was right or wrong.

We are barking at the wrong tree here.

When we have two passengers, for accommodation of which the whole team composition gets disrupted including the balance, then above is the least problem.

It'll just distract the focus from these two and will portray as if this decision could have been not out, India would have won.

No wonder kohli and rohit gets away with these type of atrocious performances.
 
I'm still waiting for the Indian statsguru with stats I asked for, funny how certain posters 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️ off once India gets a pasting...
 
Itachi said:
The whole rule is stupid.

Overwhelming conclusive is itself ambiguous.

Indian fans can claim wrong decision but since the rule itself allows it, so it's out regardless it was right or wrong.

We are barking at the wrong tree here.

When we have two passengers, for accommodation of which the whole team composition gets disrupted including the balance, then above is the least problem.

It'll just distract the focus from these two and will portray as if this decision could have been not out, India would have won.

No wonder kohli and rohit gets away with these type of atrocious performances.
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This is what I said in regards to the rule aswell, to basically the initial decision gets to much protection. End result after review should be correct one.

Anyways seeing Indians crying and deflecting is hilarious 😂
 
Saurav said:
Then we need to abandon snicko and use something else
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Any technology is always going to have a frame rate limit. That frame rate means we may not always end up with a frame with the ball perfectly next to the bat.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Which rules says that snicko should be discarded.

If the technology is not apt why was it used? If it is used then why isn’t it being considered?
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The rules say if a piece of technology fails then the umpires should make their decision using the other available technology.
 
Just watched detailed video on hotstar.. that's clear out.. how the he** Sunny G said that is late swing? Ball is swinging into him then deflated away after kissing the glove..

But umpire's decision need to be consistent, they should get rid of umpires call, either it's out or not out.. umpires call shouldn't have nothing to do with it..
 
So a whole day has gone by and all off sudden you ask Indian fan for stats, they all dissapear 🤣🤣🤭
 
Visual evidence was enough here, That was a huge deflection that could not have been ignored.
 
Probably they should use all three types of tech to make a decision :-
1) Hotspot
2) Deflection angle (like they use for LBW decisions)
3) Snicko (not so accurate as sometimes bat touching the ground also creates a sound)

We dont know how far the Snicko catches the sound from anyways?
 
The ball clearly hit the bat and then the glove, with a noticeable deflection. While Snicko surprisingly didn’t show the spike it should have, the third umpire made the correct call based on the visible evidence. Instead of fixating on Snicko’s shortcomings, it’s important to appreciate the umpire’s sharp judgment. A less confident umpire might have played it safe and stuck with “not out,” relying solely on Snicko. This was excellent umpiring, and it’s surprising to see so much debate over this dismissal, with Indian fans, as usual, bringing up arguments that don’t hold much ground.
 
Just came across a video in which Head asked him about the nick and he said yes, then entire Aussies group started celebrating again before even start of 3rd umpire review
 
BCCI-Enforcer said:
If technology is useless then we should replace every DRS with Bangladeshi and Camera.

It will be more cheaper for the game.
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Did you see the deflection that the ball made???

It was a huge deflection but not as huge as Virat made to shoulder the 19 years old konstas...
 
Caved12 said:
The ball clearly hit the bat and then the glove, with a noticeable deflection. While Snicko surprisingly didn’t show the spike it should have, the third umpire made the correct call based on the visible evidence. Instead of fixating on Snicko’s shortcomings, it’s important to appreciate the umpire’s sharp judgment. A less confident umpire might have played it safe and stuck with “not out,” relying solely on Snicko. This was excellent umpiring, and it’s surprising to see so much debate over this dismissal, with Indian fans, as usual, bringing up arguments that don’t hold much ground.
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I think this incident has highlighted how petty and blind Indian fans can be.

It is mindboggling really.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Did you see the deflection that the ball made???

It was a huge deflection but not as huge as Virat made to shoulder the 19 years old konstas...
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Virat didn't cheat.

Aussie is king of sledging but when happens to them they cry.

Deflection on replay was optical illusion, confirmed by no movement on snicko.
 
Was the decision correct in the end? Yes. Absolutely.

Snicko malfunction is irrelevant if there is a visible deflection.
 
If Third Umpires given not out than taufel would have defend that by saying looks we have not conclusive evidence so third umpires is always go with on field umpire decision .

Kisi or Ko pagal Banana 🤣🤣

:kp
 
People are still missing the point. I don't care what Simon Taufel or Rohit Sharma is saying. The point still remains that the DRS showed no edge and technically Jaiswal was not out. Deflection and all is fine but 3rd umpire can't overrule onfield umpire decision if technology is saying otherwise. It is as simple as that but few not accepting it bcoz at the recieiving end was an Indian batsman.
 
Series would be 1-1 going to Sydney which is like a home ground for India.
 
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BCCI-Enforcer said:
Simon Taufel was not allowed to umpire in Aussie matches so why should we accept his analysis here.
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Umpires Never Criticized another Umpires decison on air . This is simple facts and they always defend them so no controversy can happen .

Above post i already said taufel would have defend not out decision as well .

:kp
 
As an Indian I say it's fair, but I doubt if it's an Australian the same yardstick would have been used..And also wondering wat wud have been ausies reaction..
 
Funny how certain posters don't watch games when they lose, also dissapear when asked for stats when their team loses aswell.
 
Technology is there to make and assist in making the right decision along with common sense. The right decision was made here, Jaiswal hit the ball with his glove. Infact Rohit confirmed that in the press conference. The bigger issue is - why Team Ind doesnt have the guts to drop rohit and kohli ? But no , biased umpiring nonsense drama. This is a dangerous path for Ind - going down the victim mentality path. You damn got beaten fair and square and rain saved you in Brisbane. Should have been 3-1 by now. Ind is lucky in that they still have a shot at 2-2. Dooooooooont want Ind to be a cry baby team
 
Buffet said:
I did not see the match, but saw the replay.

It was the right decision.

He was out and he was given out.
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Funny how you dissapeared once India was losing, we filled a missing person report for you 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️
 
Yar when Rohit said he was clearly out what’s left to discuss? Why can’t Indian fans just move on? When SKY’s catch was close to the rope even the South Africans accepted it as legitimate and moved on.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Funny how you dissapeared once India was losing, we filled a missing person report for you 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️
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I predited and wanted Aus to win.

May be discussing posts will help instead of poster. If not then carry on...
 
Rajdeep said:
The point still remains that the DRS showed no edge and technically Jaiswal was not out. Deflection and all is fine but 3rd umpire can't overrule onfield umpire decision if technology is saying otherwise
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Let’s say, if there was a gap between bat and ball, and the on field umpire gave it out, snicko shows a murmur at the time ball passes bat, should the 3rd umpire give it out when there’s daylight between bat and ball? (Jaiswal batting)
 
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YousafTheBeast said:
Let’s say, if there was a gap between bat and ball, and the on field umpire gave it out, snicko shows a murmur at the time ball passes bat, should the 3rd umpire give it out when there’s daylight between bat and ball? (Jaiswal batting)
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How is it a conclusive evidence of ball touching the bat or gloves if snicko shows no murmurs? This simple point no one is able to explain me (yet) with a straight face. Third umpire's job is to give a decision based on available technology which was snickometer in this case. He should not have gone against the snicko i.e conclusive evidence and overruled onfield umpire decision based on his whim and what he has seen in naked eye. If that has to be the case why even have technologies like hotspots, snicko or ball tracking? Let the 3rd umpire decide just based on replays only.

India lost that game on final session of final day with 14 overs to go. Had Jaiswal not been robbed by umpire at that stage, India definitely would have drew that test match. Then everything to play in Sydney with both team at 1-1. So this series win by Australia and final scoreline has massive asterisk. I refuse to accept the result.
 
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Rajdeep said:
How is it a conclusive evidence of ball touching the bat or gloves if snicko shows no murmurs? This simple point no one is able to explain me (yet) with a straight face. Third umpire's job is to give a decision based on available technology which was snickometer in this case. He should not have gone against the snicko i.e conclusive evidence and overruled onfield umpire decision based on his whim and what he has seen in naked eye. If that has to be the case why even have technologies like hotspots, snicko or ball tracking? Let the 3rd umpire decide just based on replays only.

India lost that game on final session of final day with 14 overs to go. Had Jaiswal not been robbed by umpire at that stage, India definitely would have drew that test match. Then everything to play in Sydney with both team at 1-1. So this series win by Australia and final scoreline has massive asterisk. I refuse to accept the result.
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Not sure why half of my post was removed, might as well have removed the entire post smh🤦🏻‍♂️

I’ll try this again… if the ball is hitting the middle of the bat and it goes up in the air, now, if the umpire is Stevie Wonder and he gives it NOT OUT, the bowling team reviews it and Snicko shows nothing, are you really telling me that it’s NOT clear enough for the third umpire to over turn the on field decision??!!??!!

My god, RAJDEEP please try to understand…

SCENARIO

- Lyon is bowling to Jaiswal

- bowler appeals for LBW, Umpire gives it OUT.
  • Jaiswal REVIEWS, REPLAYS shows GAP between BAT and BALL.
  • SNICKO SHOWS MURMUR WHEN BALL PASSES BAT
  • REPLAYS INDICATE BAT HITTING PAD


NOW, WHAT YOU’RE SAYING IS THAT THE 3rd UMPIRE IN THIS SCENARIO SHOULD GIVE JAISWAL OUT BECAUSE SNICKO SHOWED A MURMUR EVEN THOUGH YOU COULD FIT AZAM KHAN BETWEEN THE GAP OF BAT AND BALL????!!!!!

SNICKO FAILED, THE CORRECT DECISION WAS MADE, YOU KNOW IT HIT THE GLOVES, JAISWAL COULD COME OUT AND SAY HE HIT IT BUT YOU FOR SOME REASON WON’T ACCEPT BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY FAILED? REALLY????



I’ll end it here man.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Not sure why half of my post was removed, might as well have removed the entire post smh🤦🏻‍♂️

I’ll try this again… if the ball is hitting the middle of the bat and it goes up in the air, now, if the umpire is Stevie Wonder and he gives it NOT OUT, the bowling team reviews it and Snicko shows nothing, are you really telling me that it’s NOT clear enough for the third umpire to over turn the on field decision??!!??!!

My god, RAJDEEP please try to understand…

SCENARIO

- Lyon is bowling to Jaiswal

- bowler appeals for LBW, Umpire gives it OUT.
  • Jaiswal REVIEWS, REPLAYS shows GAP between BAT and BALL.
  • SNICKO SHOWS MURMUR WHEN BALL PASSES BAT
  • REPLAYS INDICATE BAT HITTING PAD


NOW, WHAT YOU’RE SAYING IS THAT THE 3rd UMPIRE IN THIS SCENARIO SHOULD GIVE JAISWAL OUT BECAUSE SNICKO SHOWED A MURMUR EVEN THOUGH YOU COULD FIT AZAM KHAN BETWEEN THE GAP OF BAT AND BALL????!!!!!

SNICKO FAILED, THE CORRECT DECISION WAS MADE, YOU KNOW IT HIT THE GLOVES, JAISWAL COULD COME OUT AND SAY HE HIT IT BUT YOU FOR SOME REASON WON’T ACCEPT BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY FAILED? REALLY????



I’ll end it here man.
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Your comparison is too simplistic man. If the ball hits middle of the bat and goes up in the air, no onfield umpire will give the batsman not out. Your hypothetical scenario of Stevie wonder being on field umpire makes no sense as it is international cricket and umpires are thoroughly tested. In this case the stand in umpire couldnt see any edge, the available DRS technology couldnt conclude any edge but 3rd umpire somehow found an edge.LOL. It was not out and a botch up job by umpire irrespective of whichever way you want to twist it.

Like Donald Trump never accepted 2020 election results as it was daylight robbery, I refuse to accept the result of this series as well due to multiple umpiring blunders with this one being the ultimate.
 
Are Indian posters still salty about it?

Game is done and dusted. Series is done and dusted. Give it a rest.

It has been determined it was out. Simon Taufel said it was out. Rohit Sharma said it was out. Ricky Ponting said it was out. Jaiswal himself said he hit it.
 
So catches should no longer be referred to the 3rd umpire, since we cannot go by the naked eye. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Rajdeep said:
How is it a conclusive evidence of ball touching the bat or gloves if snicko shows no murmurs? This simple point no one is able to explain me (yet) with a straight face. Third umpire's job is to give a decision based on available technology which was snickometer in this case. He should not have gone against the snicko i.e conclusive evidence and overruled onfield umpire decision based on his whim and what he has seen in naked eye. If that has to be the case why even have technologies like hotspots, snicko or ball tracking? Let the 3rd umpire decide just based on replays only.

India lost that game on final session of final day with 14 overs to go. Had Jaiswal not been robbed by umpire at that stage, India definitely would have drew that test match. Then everything to play in Sydney with both team at 1-1. So this series win by Australia and final scoreline has massive asterisk. I refuse to accept the result.
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The available technology was replays and snicko. Replays conclusively showed the ball hit the glove. Snicko therefore clearly failed in this instance and was disregarded as a result.
 
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