[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Saim Ayub - the real deal or a flash in the pan?

[RedwoodOriginal]

Zak Crawley has played over 200 first class games unlike saim who isn't even a seasoned domestic player.

Saim has had enough chances had a great opportunity this series to show something but failed so don't expect anything against Ireland or England.

That's why it's better to just go back to status quo with rizwan and Babar opening because we have a world cup.

After World cup the think tank can see what players need axing and which youngsters need to be given a go in the team.

But intl cricket is not where a batsmen learns to bat its not a school to learn you do that in domestics.

Pakistan can't afford for saim to come good just like we did with asif ali and khushdil shah opportunity after opportunity and never delivered after all the talk and fanfare. How many games did we give asif ali the fake sixer machine the fake jos butler hoping for him to give that butler performance never happened .and rightly discarded alongwith the whimpy performer khushdil who at one point I believe was even crying in the dressing room

Haha what? Zak Crawley has not played 200 FC games. Where are you getting your stats?

And this is a delusion. If we keep chasing this idea then young players will never be ready. Saim Ayub is not Asif Ali or Khushdil Shah. And no amount of domestic bashing can compare to international cricket. It is the best place to learn.

 

[shaz619]

Haha what? Zak Crawley has not played 200 FC games. Where are you getting your stats?

And this is a delusion. If we keep chasing this idea then young players will never be ready. Saim Ayub is not Asif Ali or Khushdil Shah. And no amount of domestic bashing can compare to international cricket. It is the best place to learn.

Man if people want to drop Saim, at least suggest better players then those two jobbers

 

[emranabbas]

Point taken but pakistan doesn't have gun batsmen

Our best batsmen is babar azam.

We have been trying various domestic performers and hyped up players and all have looked pretty ordinary.

Recent one is this usman khan hyped up as next big thing , big injustice by pcb , big performances in psl , sacrificed uae and now he has played intl cricket and we have witnessed he doesn't even know where his feet are .

But yes it's all babars fault , rizwan is doing jadoo and giving nazar , naqvi is corrupt noora , misbah destroyed pakistan cricket etc etc

yes babar is our best batsmen, he should play every game vs nepal, uganda, china etc..

name me 1 opener that has been tried in the last few years and has been given a long run?

how long are babar and rizwan going to play? 50 years? 60 years?

are we even thinking about developing a opener after babar as rizwan retires?

all that's been happening is rizwan and babar hogging the opening slot so they could score maximum runs at a snail rate to inflate their averages

give any other batsmen from pakistan that slot and tell them to take 0 risks and play t20's like a test and will you will have 100's of babar's and rizwan's

yes it babar's fault for hogging the opening position with 0 intent and 0 impact

 

[Ahmed216]

Talented but raw. Still not aware of his strengths and weaknesses as batsman due to little FC exposure. Him , Haider, Haris all need to play more domestic cricket. Learn from someone like Rizwan

 

[Ahmed216]

Successful duo Riz and Babar have played 204 FC games combined. Top ranked SKY has played 82 FC games

 

[mazkhan]

Haha what? Zak Crawley has not played 200 FC games. Where are you getting your stats?

And this is a delusion. If we keep chasing this idea then young players will never be ready. Saim Ayub is not Asif Ali or Khushdil Shah. And no amount of domestic bashing can compare to international cricket. It is the best place to learn.

If you add his 4 day games, 50 /40 over one day cup , and domestic t20s they come over to a total of 200 fc games.

This is a player who has come through an established domestic structure through the school and academy teams then went through local club teams before representing the second xis of Kent and progressing to the first team . And then entered the elite development programme of the ecb and England lions.

So please jog on

 

[mazkhan]

yes babar is our best batsmen, he should play every game vs nepal, uganda, china etc..

name me 1 opener that has been tried in the last few years and has been given a long run?

how long are babar and rizwan going to play? 50 years? 60 years?

are we even thinking about developing a opener after babar as rizwan retires?

all that's been happening is rizwan and babar hogging the opening slot so they could score maximum runs at a snail rate to inflate their averages

give any other batsmen from pakistan that slot and tell them to take 0 risks and play t20's like a test and will you will have 100's of babar's and rizwan's

yes it babar's fault for hogging the opening position with 0 intent and 0 impact

Shahzad , imam , Abdullah shafique , abid ali , sharjeel , haider ali etc have all been given consistent chances over various three formats

Saim was even handed a test debut.

So this myth that babar won't Try players.

Various players have been tried in the middle order umar akmal , asif alis , shoaib maqsood , hussain talats , khushdils etc over the years if they can't dislodge a 50 Yr old chacha then whose fault is that . At one point we even played azhar ali and fawad alam in odi team
Even shafiq was given a consistent run in odi team.

It's come to a situation where pakistan are even trying like of nawaz and shadab and imad as batsmen when everyone knows they are fake all-rounders and not proper batsmen.

 

[mominsaigol]

Shahzad , imam , Abdullah shafique , abid ali , sharjeel , haider ali etc have all been given consistent chances over various three formats

Saim was even handed a test debut.

So this myth that babar won't Try players.

Various players have been tried in the middle order umar akmal , asif alis , shoaib maqsood , hussain talats , khushdils etc over the years if they can't dislodge a 50 Yr old chacha then whose fault is that . At one point we even played azhar ali and fawad alam in odi team
Even shafiq was given a consistent run in odi team.

It's come to a situation where pakistan are even trying like of nawaz and shadab and imad as batsmen when everyone knows they are fake all-rounders and not proper batsmen.

This comment is ignorant on various factors.

Babar and misbah only kept people in their friends group and everyone else got a few games before being booted.

1) First of Fawad alam was the highest run getter in the middle order in 2014 and the star of the asia cup, yet he was dropped for the wc in 2015 for literally no reason other then YK's tantrum and after failing in 2016 in Bangladesh odi in which every player including shehzad and others failed resulting in a 3-0 loss he got booted out, but players like shehzad, rizwan etc remained.

Fawad's avg and sr in 2014 alone never warranted a drop over YK, nor did one bad series warrant a drop when everyone failed in that series haris sohail, and sarfraz included.

2) Azhar was the captain chosen by Misbah and he led the team to no 9 rank spot and almost didn't even get Pakistan to qualify for Ct 2017, he disnt get dropped, he retired after 2017, and he was stubbornly opening and in a format courtesy of Misbah. He never deserved a consistent run, but he got one because he's a misbah clique

3) Shehzad is another Misbah product, the kid got his chance post 2013 CT, but after his severe regression in 2014 and early 2015, a drop was warranted, but despite this he was given a respite by misbah and azhar for no reason other then being a part of the clique, it was only inn2017 post azhar era where sarfraz removed him for good and even in 2018 discarded him.

In fact shehzad never deserved to see the light of day bit Misbah the beloved decided to include this moron inn2019 out of the blue despite Pakistan t20 team being ranked no 1.

All of this is dosti yaari nepotism that people have memed and dubbed friendship 11.

4) Akmal, Asif, Hussain talat, Maqsood and Kushdil are also misbah products, these bozos weren't even a part of the 1 t20 rank team set up yet misbah gave then a rope out of the blue. They deserved a boot, Akmal has no business keeping for 6 games over sarfi. These guys got a rope because of the friendship clique.

5) Imam isn't a misbah product but yes a nepotism baby, and tbf he was better then all our other openers back in 2018 besides fakhar. In fact the original plan was to drop Imam and have abid ali replace him, but Inzimam stubbornly selected Imam for 2019 and after that Abid ali had a heart attack, However 2023 wc is an indication that Abdullah shafiq will replace Imam.

As for Abdullah shafiq, he's yet to be given a full rope and pretty sure he's a part of the pdi and test set up full time.

Sharjeel fixed and haider ali got dropped and rightfully so.

^^ The problem is that some players are discarded without being given a fair run or if they are performing in the case of fawad alam, they get dropped out of the blue because their not a part of the friendship 11.

But some players stubbornly get long ropes due to the tu hai mera match winner meme.

As for babar, no he doesn't Try out different combinations, that's a myth, look at last year series and this year, he doesn't swip swop until forced at the last minute. He only swip swoops bowlers and that's it. Atm theirs an issue going on with management

However if babar got his way, then rizwan and babar would be opening with saim at no 3, Fakhar at no 4, shafab at no 5, Chacha at 6 and irfan Khan niazi at 7.

This is a friendship clique, and it was installed by Misbah

 

[mazkhan]

This comment is ignorant on various factors.

Babar and misbah only kept people in their friends group and everyone else got a few games before being booted.

1) First of Fawad alam was the highest run getter in the middle order in 2014 and the star of the asia cup, yet he was dropped for the wc in 2015 for literally no reason other then YK's tantrum and after failing in 2016 in Bangladesh odi in which every player including shehzad and others failed resulting in a 3-0 loss he got booted out, but players like shehzad, rizwan etc remained.

Fawad's avg and sr in 2014 alone never warranted a drop over YK, nor did one bad series warrant a drop when everyone failed in that series haris sohail, and sarfraz included.

2) Azhar was the captain chosen by Misbah and he led the team to no 9 rank spot and almost didn't even get Pakistan to qualify for Ct 2017, he disnt get dropped, he retired after 2017, and he was stubbornly opening and in a format courtesy of Misbah. He never deserved a consistent run, but he got one because he's a misbah clique

3) Shehzad is another Misbah product, the kid got his chance post 2013 CT, but after his severe regression in 2014 and early 2015, a drop was warranted, but despite this he was given a respite by misbah and azhar for no reason other then being a part of the clique, it was only inn2017 post azhar era where sarfraz removed him for good and even in 2018 discarded him.

In fact shehzad never deserved to see the light of day bit Misbah the beloved decided to include this moron inn2019 out of the blue despite Pakistan t20 team being ranked no 1.

All of this is dosti yaari nepotism that people have memed and dubbed friendship 11.

4) Akmal, Asif, Hussain talat, Maqsood and Kushdil are also misbah products, these bozos weren't even a part of the 1 t20 rank team set up yet misbah gave then a rope out of the blue. They deserved a boot, Akmal has no business keeping for 6 games over sarfi. These guys got a rope because of the friendship clique.

5) Imam isn't a misbah product but yes a nepotism baby, and tbf he was better then all our other openers back in 2018 besides fakhar. In fact the original plan was to drop Imam and have abid ali replace him, but Inzimam stubbornly selected Imam for 2019 and after that Abid ali had a heart attack, However 2023 wc is an indication that Abdullah shafiq will replace Imam.

As for Abdullah shafiq, he's yet to be given a full rope and pretty sure he's a part of the pdi and test set up full time.

Sharjeel fixed and haider ali got dropped and rightfully so.

^^ The problem is that some players are discarded without being given a fair run or if they are performing in the case of fawad alam, they get dropped out of the blue because their not a part of the friendship 11.

But some players stubbornly get long ropes due to the tu hai mera match winner meme.

As for babar, no he doesn't Try out different combinations, that's a myth, look at last year series and this year, he doesn't swip swop until forced at the last minute. He only swip swoops bowlers and that's it. Atm theirs an issue going on with management

However if babar got his way, then rizwan and babar would be opening with saim at no 3, Fakhar at no 4, shafab at no 5, Chacha at 6 and irfan Khan niazi at 7.

This is a friendship clique, and it was installed by Misbah

But didn't we try your players in Afghanistan series when babar and rizwan were rested

How did that end up

If they got smashed by a top team that's understandable but when they got undone by a minnow level country what is the excuse .

I've told you before that intl cricket is not a school , players are supposed to be finished products in domestic cricket but in pakistan you have players coming to the intl team struggling against pace, short bowling, can't play spin , flawed techniques , head and feet not balanced .

You talk of shahzad and haider ali , then what about saim he's going exactly the same way as haider ali who was mickey Arthur's love child alongwith with faheem ashraf .

Saim ayub has already been given three series, give him 2 more and a world cup he will nearly play 40 games and if there is no consistent performance or ability to put price on a wicket then what . How long do you want the rope to be .

Your backing of saim is simply on an ethnic and political basis of karachi based players.

I sussed that when you have done a glowing commentary of fawad alam as the next micheal bevan when everyone knows he was an absolute clown with the bat in white ball cricket.
And a horrendous technique in test cricket where he flopped outside Asia against Australia

 

[mominsaigol]

But didn't we try your players in Afghanistan series when babar and rizwan were rested

How did that end up

If they got smashed by a top team that's understandable but when they got undone by a minnow level country what is the excuse .

I've told you before that intl cricket is not a school , players are supposed to be finished products in domestic cricket but in pakistan you have players coming to the intl team struggling against pace, short bowling, can't play spin , flawed techniques , head and feet not balanced .

You talk of shahzad and haider ali , then what about saim he's going exactly the same way as haider ali who was mickey Arthur's love child alongwith with faheem ashraf .

Saim ayub has already been given three series, give him 2 more and a world cup he will nearly play 40 games and if there is no consistent performance or ability to put price on a wicket then what . How long do you want the rope to be .

Your backing of saim is simply on an ethnic and political basis of karachi based players.

I sussed that when you have done a glowing commentary of fawad alam as the next micheal bevan when everyone knows he was an absolute clown with the bat in white ball cricket.
And a horrendous technique in test cricket where he flopped outside Asia against Australia

That is wrong.

First of Afghanistan that you claim is a minnow butchered our team this WC, what happened then? Why did we get our @ss beat by a minnow team?

The truth is since 2014 most of pur encounters have been close affairs with Afghanistan always having the upper hand but losing due to botches. Their team is even and actually atm superior to ours.

Now when it comes to that series, that series is good. The fact that we even won 1 game gave valuable experience to our youngsters and it was a step in the right direction.

NZ sent their c team this year and last year, and they expected to get whitewashed.

Robinson is not a finished product, yet he's showing promise already.

That series should have been persisted with, That team with Abdullah, tayyab, Haris and saim needed more tours irrespective of whether we win or lose to give them valuable match experience, in the same vein that NZ and Australia usually try out various factors.

Instead PCB deliberately played that series and used that tour as a scapegoat to justify the inclusion of Babar and rizwan amd get heat of them for the embrassment of 2022 and social media wanted these bafoons dropped.

They knew full well what would have happened and still we managed to get one W over a team that is usually even to pur full strength.

Mark my words, Tayyab, Abdullah, Saim and haris are not finished products but their already more valuable then chacha, Shadab and all these clowns.

Lastly as for saim not performing, saim is not going the way of haider ali, Haider Ali was a hack who was hyped to the moon, Saim on the other hand can play proper cricket shots such as cover drives, cut shots, leg side scoops and he tries to be innovative. Yes he hasn't kicked off but he has shots and isn't a slogger like usman khan, Haider Ali and these hacks are. But if he doesn't perform for a few more games, drop him, I don't mind. Max rope Is give is 25 games. But not 4 freaking years that shehzad and akmal vet and even get called back up due to misbah clique.

As for fawad, he was the highest run scorer in the middle order in 2014 scoring 77 and 101 back to back, I'm asking in what basis was he dropped for younis Khan completly out of the blue. His statistics in white ball are averaging in the 40's.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

If you add his 4 day games, 50 /40 over one day cup , and domestic t20s they come over to a total of 200 fc games.

This is a player who has come through an established domestic structure through the school and academy teams then went through local club teams before representing the second xis of Kent and progressing to the first team . And then entered the elite development programme of the ecb and England lions.

So please jog on

First Class Cricket just includes 4 and 5 day matches. First Class Cricket does not include 50 Over and Domestic T20s. Do you really not know this?

Okay but his record was rubbish. And he had played more test matches than most Pakistani players do in their entire career.

 

[mazkhan]

First Class Cricket just includes 4 and 5 day matches. First Class Cricket does not include 50 Over and Domestic T20s. Do you really not know this?

Okay but his record was rubbish. And he had played more test matches than most Pakistani players do in their entire career.

Pedantics on your part I should have said total domestic games.

Your the one who bought up Zak Crawley who isn't even an established white ball player in the England setup.

So why bring him up in relation to t20 cricket or the upcoming t20 world cup.

I guess your probably advocating now saim be given a consistent run in test cricket now ?

 

[shamaan]

I will stick with Saim in the squad atleast.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Member Selection Committee, Abdul Razzaq Speaking during the squad announcement press conference:​

“There is a lot of potential in Saim Ayub. It’s true that he didn’t perform in New Zealand and in home series as we were expecting, but we still hope that he will perform well. Such a player needs only 1 good innings to get his confidence back.”

 

[Usman Chadda]

Member Selection Committee, Abdul Razzaq Speaking during the squad announcement press conference:

“There is a lot of potential in Saim Ayub. It’s true that he didn’t perform in New Zealand and in home series as we were expecting, but we still hope that he will perform well. Such a player needs only 1 good innings to get his confidence back.”​

Not sure how many chances we can keep giving Saim for that '1 good innings'.

I like him, and really hope he is not a domestic cricket performer only.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Not sure how many chances we can keep giving Saim for that '1 good innings'.

Not sure how many games will he need but so far, his performances have shown that he is another hack and a league bully.

I hope he proves me wrong in the upcoming series.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Member Selection Committee, Abdul Razzaq Speaking during the squad announcement press conference:​

“There is a lot of potential in Saim Ayub. It’s true that he didn’t perform in New Zealand and in home series as we were expecting, but we still hope that he will perform well. Such a player needs only 1 good innings to get his confidence back.”

And to wait for his one good inning, we have to keep losing all the matches in which we are giving him chances expecting that one day our no look boy will score a tripple century in T20Is

 

[FearlessRoar]

Speaking on a local news channel, while acknowledging the talent of Saim Ayub, Shahid Afridi expressed concerns about his inconsistency:

“Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan are not the issue, Saim Ayub is the issue. We support him a lot, he is a young talented boy, but we need runs. The opening stand is very important for the game. Despite 15 to 16 innings having gone by, Saim Ayub has not even made a 50 yet. He is getting opportunities, and now he will have to demonstrate responsibility and perform. Openers who play this kind of attacking cricket should score runs in at least three out of five matches. If not three, then they should at least do it in two, so that they can change the match and become game changers. So far, we have not seen this from Saim Ayub, but maybe he will get more opportunities.”

“I feel that when he is batting, he is thinking a lot. There is a shot that is his strong suit, which he plays on the leg side. When he get the pace, that shot will go for a six but again slow deliveries he will struggle. You will see that all the bowlers will try to get them out there.”

 

[mominsaigol]

Speaking on a local news channel, while acknowledging the talent of Saim Ayub, Shahid Afridi expressed concerns about his inconsistency:

“Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan are not the issue, Saim Ayub is the issue. We support him a lot, he is a young talented boy, but we need runs. The opening stand is very important for the game. Despite 15 to 16 innings having gone by, Saim Ayub has not even made a 50 yet. He is getting opportunities, and now he will have to demonstrate responsibility and perform. Openers who play this kind of attacking cricket should score runs in at least three out of five matches. If not three, then they should at least do it in two, so that they can change the match and become game changers. So far, we have not seen this from Saim Ayub, but maybe he will get more opportunities.”

“I feel that when he is batting, he is thinking a lot. There is a shot that is his strong suit, which he plays on the leg side. When he get the pace, that shot will go for a six but again slow deliveries he will struggle. You will see that all the bowlers will try to get them out there.”

Agree with afridi tbh

 

[mazkhan]

Ireland and England series will be make or break

At the end he will have 5 series in t20s
And a test cap debut very early

Thats more than a long rope given by the management.

 

[ExpressPacer]

He will come good. Best young batsman in Pakistan and most of all, he plays for the team. Hope that never changes.

 

[mazkhan]

He will come good. Best young batsman in Pakistan and most of all, he plays for the team. Hope that never changes.

Well let's hope so he delivers and becomes that gun opener for us.

Hope he doesn't go the way of haider ali or asif ali , faheem ashraf , m nawaz who were given a consistent run of games and 95% ,of the time were never consistent or delivered any match winning performances.
Atm he's falling in that category of player flashes of brilliance but overall a disappointment.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

He has some mental issue i guess because he plays entirely different in leagues.

 

[PakEngFan]

He will come good. Best young batsman in Pakistan and most of all, he plays for the team. Hope that never changes.

Averages less than Babar and rizwan and his Sr is lower too. But Babar and rizwan play for them self and Saim for the team. Brilliant.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Ireland and England series will be make or break

At the end he will have 5 series in t20s
And a test cap debut very early

Thats more than a long rope given by the management.

He needs a run of 30 LOI and 5 tests.

He clearly has talent compared to the rest of the hacks coming through.

 

[PakEngFan]

He needs a run of 30 LOI and 5 tests.

He clearly has talent compared to the rest of the hacks coming through.

He should be given as many chances as possible because he clearly has the potential.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

He should be given as many chances as possible because he clearly has the potential.

If someone like Shan Masood can get 33 tests than Saim should get as many as possible for him to establish himself.

 

[PakEngFan]

If someone like Shan Masood can get 33 tests than Saim should get as many as possible for him to establish himself.

Agreed. If we can waste a million of games on rubbish like shan than Saim deserves even more as he's miles ahead in terms of skill and talent.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Agreed. If we can waste a million of games on rubbish like shan than Saim deserves even more as he's miles ahead in terms of skill and talent.

But what's the benefit when Saim is giving you even worse results compared to Shan Masood?

Shan's batting average is 30 in T20Is while Saim only has 14.60.

If you compare the strike rate both have almost the same one. So who is better Shan or Saim?

 

[Asad T]

Speaking on a local news channel, while acknowledging the talent of Saim Ayub, Shahid Afridi expressed concerns about his inconsistency:

“Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan are not the issue, Saim Ayub is the issue. We support him a lot, he is a young talented boy, but we need runs. The opening stand is very important for the game. Despite 15 to 16 innings having gone by, Saim Ayub has not even made a 50 yet. He is getting opportunities, and now he will have to demonstrate responsibility and perform. Openers who play this kind of attacking cricket should score runs in at least three out of five matches. If not three, then they should at least do it in two, so that they can change the match and become game changers. So far, we have not seen this from Saim Ayub, but maybe he will get more opportunities.”

“I feel that when he is batting, he is thinking a lot. There is a shot that is his strong suit, which he plays on the leg side. When he get the pace, that shot will go for a six but again slow deliveries he will struggle. You will see that all the bowlers will try to get them out there.”

Our ex-players are toxic. Do nothing but dent the confidence of our young, emerging players. Saim needs to be persevered with.

 

[cricketmania22]

Speaking on a local news channel, while acknowledging the talent of Saim Ayub, Shahid Afridi expressed concerns about his inconsistency:

“Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan are not the issue, Saim Ayub is the issue. We support him a lot, he is a young talented boy, but we need runs. The opening stand is very important for the game. Despite 15 to 16 innings having gone by, Saim Ayub has not even made a 50 yet. He is getting opportunities, and now he will have to demonstrate responsibility and perform. Openers who play this kind of attacking cricket should score runs in at least three out of five matches. If not three, then they should at least do it in two, so that they can change the match and become game changers. So far, we have not seen this from Saim Ayub, but maybe he will get more opportunities.”

“I feel that when he is batting, he is thinking a lot. There is a shot that is his strong suit, which he plays on the leg side. When he get the pace, that shot will go for a six but again slow deliveries he will struggle. You will see that all the bowlers will try to get them out there.”

What an idiot this guy is. How can a newbie be the issue? These guys don’t think before speaking on the tv.

 

[mominsaigol]

Speaking on a local news channel, while acknowledging the talent of Saim Ayub, Shahid Afridi expressed concerns about his inconsistency:

“Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan are not the issue, Saim Ayub is the issue. We support him a lot, he is a young talented boy, but we need runs. The opening stand is very important for the game. Despite 15 to 16 innings having gone by, Saim Ayub has not even made a 50 yet. He is getting opportunities, and now he will have to demonstrate responsibility and perform. Openers who play this kind of attacking cricket should score runs in at least three out of five matches. If not three, then they should at least do it in two, so that they can change the match and become game changers. So far, we have not seen this from Saim Ayub, but maybe he will get more opportunities.”

“I feel that when he is batting, he is thinking a lot. There is a shot that is his strong suit, which he plays on the leg side. When he get the pace, that shot will go for a six but again slow deliveries he will struggle. You will see that all the bowlers will try to get them out there.”

Shahid afridi: Babar and rizwan are not the issue

Me: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[JattMaula]

Speaking on a local news channel, while acknowledging the talent of Saim Ayub, Shahid Afridi expressed concerns about his inconsistency:

“Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan are not the issue, Saim Ayub is the issue. We support him a lot, he is a young talented boy, but we need runs. The opening stand is very important for the game. Despite 15 to 16 innings having gone by, Saim Ayub has not even made a 50 yet. He is getting opportunities, and now he will have to demonstrate responsibility and perform. Openers who play this kind of attacking cricket should score runs in at least three out of five matches. If not three, then they should at least do it in two, so that they can change the match and become game changers. So far, we have not seen this from Saim Ayub, but maybe he will get more opportunities.”

“I feel that when he is batting, he is thinking a lot. There is a shot that is his strong suit, which he plays on the leg side. When he get the pace, that shot will go for a six but again slow deliveries he will struggle. You will see that all the bowlers will try to get them out there.”

Lala should take Saim under his mighty wings.

Guide him towards consistency!

 

[BouncerGuy]

Lala should take Saim under his mighty wings.

Guide him towards consistency!

You want saim's career to perish for good before it even starts. LOL

 

[mazkhan]

For once lala is talking sense.

But saim career will be over in next 2 series in Ireland and England those quick will bag him no time.

Just hope the replacement isn't shan masood and imam ul haq I'm having a feeling one of them will be drafted into the squad for WC if saim fails in the upcoming games.

I wouldn't be surprised if its shan masood who will be placed at number 3.

 

[FearlessRoar]

While speaking to the media today ahead of the Ireland and England tour, Saim Ayub said:

"I have not yet played a big innings at international level but I am trying to do better. It is a process. The management is back every player. I will not change my style and I am confident I will perform in future."

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Lala should take Saim under his mighty wings.

Guide him towards consistency!

Saim is already so consistent in not scoring runs so lala wont have to work so hard on him

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Such players needs extreme confidence and a very long run and even after that there is a 50% chance that they will not make it big in the first run and they possibly need a long run second time as well after couple of years , examples are Sangakkara , Dilshan , Rohit Sharma , Micheal Vaughn etc. But being in Pakistani setup there is 90% likelihood that he will fail and disappear and then come back for 4/5 matches and then be dropped forever.

 

[mominsaigol]

Saim is already so consistent in not scoring runs so lala wont have to work so hard on him

Lala himself wasn't consistent lol

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Do remember Saim Ayub always find it difficult to adjust when stepping up , first he had a terrible time adjusting to U19 cricket after dominating U16 and after one year he started performing in the U19 cricket then he jumped to domestic cricket where had a terrible start and then he later start dominating. Same is the case with Saim in international cricket , however this is the biggest jump for him. So he need 2 years to adjust himself in.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

He has really only features against the kiwis.

For T20 cricket I believe a player needs to play matches against 4-5 team in different conditions to really see what they are capable of

 

[Mamoon]

Do remember Saim Ayub always find it difficult to adjust when stepping up , first he had a terrible time adjusting to U19 cricket after dominating U16 and after one year he started performing in the U19 cricket then he jumped to domestic cricket where had a terrible start and then he later start dominating. Same is the case with Saim in international cricket , however this is the biggest jump for him. So he need 2 years to adjust himself in.

It is a fair observation and if it is true, then it means that he is not as talented and people like him out to be.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Most talented PAK batter in a decade.

Guyana Warriors and Prasanna Agoram didn't take him in their side just to fill overseas numbers.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

It is a fair observation and if it is true, then it means that he is not as talented and people like him out to be.

He is talented no doubt about it but adjusting to International cricket is not always simple. Hopefully he will manage.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

He is not getting out in International cricket due to technical fault or inability to handle international level bowling like extra pace, bounce, swing or spin but mainly due to poor shot selections and lapses in concentration. These 2 things can be overcome with hard work and focus.

 

[Mamoon]

He is talented no doubt about it but adjusting to International cricket is not always simple. Hopefully he will manage.

But you mentioned that he has always struggled whenever he has moved to a higher level. Not just international cricket.

This shows that he is not very natural gifted. It is more about his grit and determination.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

But you mentioned that he has always struggled whenever he has moved to a higher level. Not just international cricket.

This shows that he is not very natural gifted. It is more about his grit and determination.

No , its about being overconfident and dominant nature , whatever works for him to dominate at junior levels will not necessary work for him at senior levels hence he needs to realize that keep his feet on the ground , The prime example is the no look shot , while it works for him at the domestic cricket , it's definitely not working for him at International cricket for now , he needs to play orthodox cricketing shot and put price on his wicket.

If you remember his first PSL season , he was trying to dominate every ball and was all at sea , in the later season he starts taking risk selectively and had a good season and after that he starts dominating the domestic bowlers which was troubling him in the first PSL.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

You look at talent by the way he plays his shot or by the way he gets out/gets beaten by the delivery , If he was getting out the Faisal Iqbal way then one can tell from just couple of innings that he is not talented , If you see Irfan Niazi you can just tell from seeing him bat for 2 overs without even getting out that he is not talented enough for International cricket.

 

[Usman Chadda]

He is not getting out in International cricket due to technical fault or inability to handle international level bowling like extra pace, bounce, swing or spin but mainly due to poor shot selections and lapses in concentration. These 2 things can be overcome with hard work and focus.

He was worked over by Matt Henry in New Zealand, with the ball that angled across him at high pace. Saim doesn't have the ability to cut effectively against that kind of length at pace. Needs to sort that out, as international level bowlers will utilize their height to cramp him up and dry up his scoring areas.

 

[Mamoon]

No , its about being overconfident and dominant nature , whatever works for him to dominate at junior levels will not necessary work for him at senior levels hence he needs to realize that keep his feet on the ground , The prime example is the no look shot , while it works for him at the domestic cricket , it's definitely not working for him at International cricket for now , he needs to play orthodox cricketing shot and put price on his wicket.

If you remember his first PSL season , he was trying to dominate every ball and was all at sea , in the later season he starts taking risk selectively and had a good season and after that he starts dominating the domestic bowlers which was troubling him in the first PSL.

I haven’t seen his overconfidence in international cricket. He has mostly looked nervous to me.

 

[U$ofA]

He is not getting out in International cricket due to technical fault or inability to handle international level bowling like extra pace, bounce, swing or spin but mainly due to poor shot selections and lapses in concentration. These 2 things can be overcome with hard work and focus.

What? He has hardly batted long enough in his 17 T20I matches. He averages 10 balls faced per inning. If he cannot maintain concentration even for that length of time, what does that tell us?

 

[MenInG]

Very fluky Saim at the moment - could have been out a few times already.

 

[MenInG]

Very fluky Saim at the moment - could have been out a few times already.

Picking up the pace and much more assured now. Good stuff.

 

[aukhan]

Kuch bhi nahi seekha apne baron say. Why didnt he go for his 50. Its okay to slow down for personal milestone. I have given up on him.

 

[JAV12341]

Very fluky Saim at the moment - could have been out a few times already.

Like I said he’s a flash in the pan won’t last. Struggled against a New Zealand D team and now against a pathetic Ireland side will be eaten alive at the World Cup

 

[Savak]

The media, social media and ex players have hyped this guy so much that he already thinks hes made it. Just look at his interviews. He has done Zilch for Pakistan.

 

[Rana]

The media, social media and ex players have hyped this guy so much that he already thinks hes made it. Just look at his interviews. He has done Zilch for Pakistan.

What did he do wrong today?

 

[Mamoon]

What did he do wrong today?

0 fifties in 16 innings and a SR of 130 is plenty of wrong.

He broke up the pair of Babar and Rizwan and has so far proved to be worse than both of them.

 

[Rana]

0 fifties in 16 innings and a SR of 130 is plenty of wrong.

He broke up the pair of Babar and Rizwan and has so far proved to be worse than both of them.

He should be sent to the gallows for that?

 

[emranabbas]

0 fifties in 16 innings and a SR of 130 is plenty of wrong.

He broke up the pair of Babar and Rizwan and has so far proved to be worse than both of them.

Wow he played 16 innings today

 

[Usman Chadda]

What did he do wrong today?

Got out when set.

He either throws his wicket away in the powerplay or he gets a start at a reasonable SR but never pushes on.

If he wants to be a sub-25 averaging player with a middling SR, that’s up to him.

Played a stupid shot to get out today, when he should have tried to get close to the ball and then attempt that hit.

 

[Rana]

If he wants to be a sub-25 averaging player with a middling SR, that’s up to him.

He needs to up his strike rate

Don’t care about the average

 

[Mamoon]

Wow he played 16 innings today

If 40 odd runs vs Ireland is the benchmark for success than that means that you don’t rate him to begin with and hence have lowly expectations that he was able to meet today.

 

[Mamoon]

He should be sent to the gallows for that?

Not at all, but have the chops to admit that he has been rubbish so far and worse than both Babar and Rizwan.

 

[Rana]

Not at all, but have the chops to admit that he has been rubbish so far and worse than both Babar and Rizwan.

He’s been ok. And he hasn’t been worse than Babar or Rizwan. He wants to do his job for Pakistan as an opener, where there is a risk involved.

Babar and Rizwan want to do their job for their agency.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

They need to give him this series and England. Give him lots of confidence and coaching. After the runout today Rizwan had his arm around him, this is good.

Most natural batter I've seen since Umar Akmal and the closest we have got to a Saeed Anwar regen, after 20 years.

 

[Mamoon]

He’s been ok. And he hasn’t been worse than Babar or Rizwan. He wants to do his job for Pakistan as an opener, where there is a risk involved.

Babar and Rizwan want to do their job for their agency.

Average of 16 and a SR of 130 is not okay. It is awful.

I don’t care who he wants to job for, but these numbers are worse than what Babar and Rizwan would give you on a bad day.

He has been awful so far and because he has been awful, Pakistan has gained nothing by splitting the opening pair of Babar and Rizwan.

We wouldn’t have heard the end of it had Saim hit the ground running and scored big runs at 180+ SR that he was brought to do admit all the hype and the swag, and now all we have are excuses.

Personally, I have nothing against him. In fact, I like him and I want him to do well and I do believe that he is the natural heir to Fakhar as a high impact aggressive player at the top, but none of that changes the fact that he has been abysmal so far and we shouldn’t hesitate in admitting it.

If he turns a corner in this series or the England series or the World Cup it will be wonderful, but so far, he has been nothing to write home about.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Look at this, buttery smooth. Who else in Pakistan the land of hacks can do this?

 

[MenInG]

Hopes fading fast for Saim at this rate.

 

[Master Blaster]

There is no one else in the world that can play those cute no look shots. Gun bat.

 

[FearlessRoar]

So, where are those posters who were telling me that Saim is a real talent? If he has talent, then when will he show it? It's already been 18 T20Is and still no fifty, with an average of 16.50.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Bhai I am done with Saim now!

plz give someone else a chance to open, he is just a waste of the resource.

 

[pakistani pride]

Over to usman khan please (opening).

 

[AAli98]

Playing a stylish shot on 1 leg doesn’t make you Lara !!

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Give him the worldcup I am dead sure he will come good , he just need one big fifty against good team to get his groove going on International cricket. Discarding him now will not actually make him a better player otherwise M.Haris , Haider Ali and Asif Ali would have gone back to the domestic cricket and would have come back as better players , so just stick with Saim till the worldcup.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

He hasn't shown presence of mind so far in his international career. The way he got out today, I have no idea what you are expecting to get after hitting the ball straight to the fielder. He didn't even look to hit it in the air or keep it down. It was simply hitting the ball straight to the fielder.

 

[Mamoon]

Look at this, buttery smooth. Who else in Pakistan the land of hacks can do this?

Keep watching his net practice because there is nothing to see when he’s playing for Pakistan.

A total flop so far. Talented for sure but he has been bloodied in earlier than he should have. He needs to grind in domestic cricket and go on some more A tours before he is ready.

 

[Caved12]

In cricket, many players look like millions dollars in nets because there is no pressure there and you can continue playing even after getting out. Talent is not everything in cricket! He should have been able to score a fifty after playing 16 plus matches and that too at a position where he has all the time in the world to execute his plans and play a long innings. I still have faith in him, but time is running out for this young man. He must get his head out of his knees and stop thinking about playing that no look shot. This is not basketball.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Said it last year as well. Typical mismanagement by the PCB. Every young batsmen needs at the least three seasons in FC to understand the basics of batting. This is something that has helped the likes of Babar, Rizwan.

Even if its T20 batting isn't all about slogging. You need to learn to cope with every type of bowling and situation in the match.

 

[Amjid Javed]

No shock yet another youngsters is failing at top of order in limited overs game.

1st you have the issue that the player hasn't played enough domestically to develop, then you have babar and rizwan in top 3 who add extra pressure by batting at one pace, which means this youngster is force with more pressure to score quickly. Poor management once again.