Politics - Pakistani 2018 General Election and post-election discussion

[Mian]

A banner from a street of of Punjab. (Only for those who can read and understand Punjabi)

 

[Syed1]

A banner from a street of of Punjab. (Only for those who can read and understand Punjabi)

My Punjabi is very bad... but I tried reading it like Urdu.. koi enj da jadoo dus patwariya... mein sharam likhan tenu ajavay


What does it mean?

 

[Mian]

My Punjabi is very bad... but I tried reading it like Urdu.. koi enj da jadoo dus patwariya... mein sharam likhan tenu ajavay


What does it mean?

Koi is qisam ka jaadu bataao ae patwari, Main sheram likhoon or tumko aa jaaye!

Inspired by that famous punjabi shaer "Koi inj da jaadu das dhola, Mein pyar likhan tenu ho jaave" (Koi is qisam ka jaadu bataao mere mehboob, Main payar likhoon or tumko ho jaaye!)

 

[hussain.r97]

Guys instead of doing a seat by seat prediction, which is going to take too long, can someone put a graph/sheet of all constituencies and put an educated prediction for each seat. We can then all look at it and give some comments and then we will have one final prediction sheet?

If more than one person can do this and make his own sheet that's fine too and then we can come up with a final sheet.

When doing this especially in Punjab if it is too close to call between pti and pmln in a given seat and if a pmln candidate is looking stronger then just give the seat to the pmln candidate. This way we won't overestimate PTI's chances in a tight seat. It's better to be conservative rather than be too optimistic.

If we can have this all finalized by this Sunday then that would be great.

I think that is a much better idea. Doing each seat one by one will take ages, and it is hard to all be online together too. I will make a prediction list, would be nice if more than one person did it though? Once we do that, we can compare and then discuss a few specific seats that require discussion.

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[DrSchultz]

I heard the government had allocated 25 billion rupees for these projects in the budget.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

Pakistan's caretaker government accused of vote rigging by Sharif's brother

The brother of Pakistan’s ousted prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, has accused the country’s caretaker government of “naked” pre-poll rigging against their party, as tensions rise ahead of the 25 July general election.

Shahbaz Sharif, who heads the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N), accused authorities of arresting hundreds of the party’s workers and supporters before Nawaz’s expected return to Pakistan on Friday.

The former prime minister was sentenced in absentia last week to 10 years in prison by a corruption court over the purchase of high-end properties in London, dealing a serious blow to his party’s bid to win a second consecutive election.

“Hundreds of our workers have been arrested in Punjab [province] … and locked up for 30 days,” Shahbaz said at a press conference in Lahore, the provincial capital. “It is naked pre-poll rigging.”

Shahbaz served three terms as chief minister of Punjab, Pakistan’s most populous province and a PML-N stronghold. He is spearheading the party’s election campaign, which suffered a major setback last July when Nawaz Sharif was ousted as prime minister by the supreme court on corruption charges. He was later barred from politics for life.

Nawaz is currently in London where his wife is being treated for cancer, and has said he will return to Pakistan despite the prison sentence. Pakistan has no extradition treaty with the UK.

His younger brother said that despite the wave of police raids and arrests, thousands of supporters will go to Lahore’s airport to welcome Nawaz, who remains a powerful symbol for his party.

“The whole world knows that PML-N is being targeted,” Shahbaz said. “We’ll go to the airport tomorrow despite this brutality, and we will remain completely peaceful.”

A senior police official in Lahore told AFP that “at least 250 activists” from Sharif’s party were arrested.

Authorities have identified at least 50 locations in the city to block with freight containers on Friday if needed, added the police official, who asked to remain anonymous.

Pakistan’s election will pit the PML-N against its main rival, the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, which is led by cricket star-turned-politician Imran Khan.

The poll would be only the second-ever democratic transfer of power in the country.

Nawaz Sharif was the 15th prime minister in Pakistan’s 70-year history – roughly half of it under military rule – to be removed before completing a full term.

The military remains the most powerful institution in the country, and has faced allegations in recent months that it is pressuring the media and politicians in a bid to manipulate the polls against the PML-N. The military has denied the accusations, and said it has “no direct role” in the elections.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...r-government-accused-of-vote-rigging-by-pml-n

 

[hussain.r97]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PML(N)'s campaign against the Avenfield case decision might just serve them well as a large 34% of the electorate does not agree with the decision. <a href="https://t.co/L9a4xEzfF4">pic.twitter.com/L9a4xEzfF4</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@OpinionRoshan) <a href="https://twitter.com/OpinionRoshan/status/1017730070830514178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[hussain.r97]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PML(N) dominating among voters who disagree with the Avenfield Case Decision, PTI among those who agree. <a href="https://t.co/pKSo0FTGGC">pic.twitter.com/pKSo0FTGGC</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@OpinionRoshan) <a href="https://twitter.com/OpinionRoshan/status/1017742744121462785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Syed1]

Three blasts in just a week. Plan's have been activated to disrupt the election process

 

[hussain.r97]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bloody election 2018.Another politician lost his life today in Balochistan.Siraj Raeesani candidate from PB 35 Mastung killed in bomb blast along with many others but we should not delay election it's a challenge and we must meet this challenge with unity <a href="https://t.co/T8oondztQe">pic.twitter.com/T8oondztQe</a></p>— Hamid Mir (@HamidMirPAK) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamidMirPAK/status/1017749867542777856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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First the ANP attack, and now this? This is really sad. The last thing we need is violence, I hope and pray that this is the last of these attacks.

 

[the Great Khan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bloody election 2018.Another politician lost his life today in Balochistan.Siraj Raeesani candidate from PB 35 Mastung killed in bomb blast along with many others but we should not delay election it's a challenge and we must meet this challenge with unity <a href="https://t.co/T8oondztQe">pic.twitter.com/T8oondztQe</a></p>— Hamid Mir (@HamidMirPAK) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamidMirPAK/status/1017749867542777856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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First the ANP attack, and now this? This is really sad. The last thing we need is violence, I hope and pray that this is the last of these attacks.

Somebody doesnt want this election to take place..I wonder..

 

[Mian]

Somebody doesnt want this election to take place..I wonder..

This man was one of those patriotic baloch sardars willing to die for Pak we lost another gem today. All his speeches use to end with Pakistan Zindabad.

 

[the Great Khan]

This man was one of those patriotic baloch sardars willing to die for Pak we lost another gem today. All his speeches use to end with Pakistan Zindabad.

Brave Shaheed...

I think the NS verdict, the terrorism and his arrival are all linked..I believe the same people who dont want him to lose power also do not want this election to take place..

 

[Mian]

Brave Shaheed...

I think the NS verdict, the terrorism and his arrival are all linked..I believe the same people who dont want him to lose power also do not want this election to take place..

So far 4 parties are targeted interestingly 2 of them are known to be on bed with Establishment (PTI and BAP) third is JUIF mullah party also in contacts with military. So only ANP is the secular one that is hit so far and it will be hard for desi liberols to find establishment hand behind this

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mian Nawaz Sharif should admit without hesitation that he was wrong in supporting removal of YRG and for his activities against Benazir Bhutto in the 1990s. <a href="https://twitter.com/BBhuttoZardari?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BBhuttoZardari</a> should forgive him and Asif Zardari should join forces with him.</p>— Yasser Latif Hamdani (@theRealYLH) <a href="https://twitter.com/theRealYLH/status/1017727898441183237?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trust him. Save the country. PML-PPP unite for that first P in both your names Pakistan ���� Zindabad.</p>— Yasser Latif Hamdani (@theRealYLH) <a href="https://twitter.com/theRealYLH/status/1017729014352502785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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PML-N and PPP unite to save the country

 

[Mian]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mian Nawaz Sharif should admit without hesitation that he was wrong in supporting removal of YRG and for his activities against Benazir Bhutto in the 1990s. <a href="https://twitter.com/BBhuttoZardari?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BBhuttoZardari</a> should forgive him and Asif Zardari should join forces with him.</p>— Yasser Latif Hamdani (@theRealYLH) <a href="https://twitter.com/theRealYLH/status/1017727898441183237?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trust him. Save the country. PML-PPP unite for that first P in both your names Pakistan ���� Zindabad.</p>— Yasser Latif Hamdani (@theRealYLH) <a href="https://twitter.com/theRealYLH/status/1017729014352502785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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PML-N and PPP unite to save the country

First P to PTI main be aata he )

 

[the Great Khan]

So far 4 parties are targeted interestingly 2 of them are known to be on bed with Establishment (PTI and BAP) third is JUIF mullah party also in contacts with military. So only ANP is the secular one that is hit so far and it will be hard for desi liberols to find establishment hand behind this

theyll still blame the Army..they cant help it..

 

[the Great Khan]

Plane definatley landing in Lahore..another flight scheduled for 9:45pm for Islamabad..He will probably be arrested on landing and then put on a plane to islamabad..

also Luqman is saying that their vote will increase through the victim hood vote etc..

 

[venomousx]

Our military intelligence has been a complete failure! Shame on them for being unable to provide security to our parties during this critical time. A case of sheer incompetence!

 

[Waseem]

Aik tou yahan har aik ko tragedies main bhi apna agenda nahi bhoolta

 

[Bewal Express]

Plane definatley landing in Lahore..another flight scheduled for 9:45pm for Islamabad..He will probably be arrested on landing and then put on a plane to islamabad..

also Luqman is saying that their vote will increase through the victim hood vote etc..

Dont care about the vote increase, but him behind bars is massive victory for a poor country.

 

[waqar goraya]

All parties should seize active campaigning for couple of days in respect of Baluchistan loss of life. Local candidates may continue their campaigns but at national level we need some soul searching. PTI should have also not held Islambad jalsa, in a festive mood today.

Furthermore, TV ads of parties should be suspended for couple of days.

 

[Mian]

All parties should seize active campaigning for couple of days in respect of Baluchistan loss of life. Local candidates may continue their campaigns but at national level we need some soul searching. PTI should have also not held Islambad jalsa, in a festive mood today.

Furthermore, TV ads of parties should be suspended for couple of days.

Completely Agree.

btw PTI canceled their Peshawer jalsa and other activities in respect of Bilour and they are also withdrawing the candidate against his wife.

 

[Syed1]

Would be interesting to see next round of Roshan Pakistan surveys and what impact that Nawaz's return have on their seat projections.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

Barbs fly in Senate over Imran’s remarks

ISLAMABAD: Lawma*kers of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) and the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) traded barbs in the Senate as members of various political parties continued to speak up against what they described as the denial of a level playing field for all candidates and the absence of adequate security for political leaders and candidates who faced threats to their lives.

Senator Saadia Abbasi, sister of former prime minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, took strong exception to PTI chief Imran Khan’s remarks: “those greeting Nawaz Sharif are donkeys”.

She said that she would be shortly leaving for Lahore to greet PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif, and added that 36 senators of the PML-N had already left for Lahore. “Are there 37 donkeys sitting in this House?” she asked, adding: “Is this the language of politicians?”

PTI’s parliamentary leader in the Senate Nauman Wazir retorted saying, what else should those greeting a convicted criminal be called. “Only corrupt people will support corrupt leaders,” he remarked.

He said it was inappropriate to glorify criminal behaviour in Pakistan. “This is what you are teaching to the young generations of Pakistan,” he remarked.

Mr Wazir also criticised Pakistan Peoples Party-Parliamentarians (PPP) chief Asif Ali Zardari for stating in a TV show that the National Accountability Bureau could not dare hold an inquiry against him. Insisting that NAB had evidence of money laundering against Mr Zardari, he asked the Supreme Court registrar to explain why the investigation process against him had been stopped.

He deplored the surge in terrorism ahead of general elections and said it would continue to happen unless a plan was chalked out and implemented. “For now apparently there is no plan,” he remarked.

He said members of proscribed organisations were contesting elections and noted that those who had cleared them should be taken to task.

Leader of the opposition in the Senate Sherry Rehman criticised both the PTI and PML-N, saying that one party abused parliament while the other belittled it. She, however, spoke up against the arrests of PML-N activists ahead of Mr Sharif’s return to Pakistan.

She said Najaf Mirza who had tortured Asif Ali Zardari in jail was heading a joint investigation team against him. She sought an apology from caretaker Information Minister Barrister Ali Zafar for his remarks that the Senate had no mandate to oversee the Election Commission. She insisted that the Senate had the powers to oversee elections, election processes and the ECP, and asked the minister to take back his words.

Chief of the National Party Mir Hasil Bizenjo in his speech alleged that the caretakers had come with an agenda to rig the elections. “They are part and parcel of the crime being committed,” he said.

He added that those who had refused to accept dictates had to face NAB, while a certain political party had been given a complete walkover. He said there was a plan to sideline the entire political leadership to pave the way for the creation of a government of their choice.

Barrister Saif of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement, while referring to a series of terrorist attacks, said that such incidents took place prior to elections held in the country every time, and added that no lessons had been learnt from this history. He regretted that an institutional mechanism for agencies could not be developed.

Former Senate chairman Mian Raza Rabbani regretted that 500 activists of a party had been arrested overnight and 150 containers had been placed at various points, but nothing effective could be done to improve the security environment.

He said some 200 people belonging to banned outfits were contesting elections. He said these outlawed organisations had not changed their stance with regard to violence and preservation of democracy.

He also referred to reports of a meeting between intelligence chiefs of Pakistan, China, Russia and Iran reportedly held in Islamabad and said the foreign office had expressed its ignorance over the meeting. “Where is the civilian government,” he asked.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1419964/barbs-fly-in-senate-over-imrans-remarks

 

[hussain.r97]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Busting the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jeep?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jeep</a> Party Myth! Only 3/136 candidates contesting on Jeep are electables. Complete analysis below!<br>Its a joke, a media spin or can be anything but something important.<br>For Details watch: <a href="https://t.co/aww7ilzHGJ">https://t.co/aww7ilzHGJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/WDBydHzkTH">pic.twitter.com/WDBydHzkTH</a></p>— Ubair Khan (@ubairkhaan) <a href="https://twitter.com/ubairkhaan/status/1017322444456153090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[hussain.r97]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PTI candidate slightly ahead in the seat ANP has won several times, including the notorious defeat of former PM late Benazir Bhutto in 1990 in this constituency. However, tactical voting by PML(N), MMA and PPP voters like in the 2013 by-election could deliver Mr. Bilour victory. <a href="https://t.co/48miOrfKcC">pic.twitter.com/48miOrfKcC</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@OpinionRoshan) <a href="https://twitter.com/OpinionRoshan/status/1018089257980874753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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ANP likely to win this seat after the unfortunate incident the other day.

 

[shah_1]

Barelvis may tip the scale in favour of PTI in Murree
The entire country is engrossed in preparation for the elections in July, as candidates canvass their constituencies. But not Murree. There is hardly anything going on in the hill station. The markers of an election fever, the flags, the hideously large banners, the untasteful posters advertising more loyalty than party ideology — all of them — are just not present except in a few locations.

But the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) claims to be flying high in the area. “We do not need anyone to campaign in Murree. The PML-N and Abbasi sahib have improved our lives immeasurably,” said a shop owner in Kashmir Bazaar.

Abbasi has remained a member of the National Assembly since 1988, losing only once in 2002. This time, however, the situation may take a different turn. He has not actively campaigned for his home constituency, NA-57, in Murree and has instead focused on building up momentum in NA-53, Islamabad, against Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan.

Abbasi kicked off his campaign on June 24 in Kahuta, but it did not go according to plan. Much to the surprise of the PML-N loyalist, a small group of protesters chanted slogans against him for allegedly failing to fulfil the promises he had made in his previous election campaign.

The Barelvis are making inroads now, and their candidates for NA-57 — TLP’s Javed Akhtar Abbasi and PST’s Mohammad Muneer Satti — are gaining some momentum.

The protest in Kahuta has also spilled over to Abbasi’s home constituency, “we have many problems — the four major commitments that he had made were, to resolve the water shortage issue, to establish a university, to sanction the building of a 100-bed hospital, and to launch a train service to Murree. There has been no progress on any of these fronts,” said a disgruntled resident, Almas Abbasi.

Like Almas, there are many other people in Murree who feel that Abbasi has not exclusively worked for his constituency as his father Khaqan Abbasi had done in the past. They also do not like the fact that he has concentrated all his campaigning efforts on Kahuta.

NA-57 used to be NA-36 when the senior Abbasi won it for the first time in the 1985 elections that were held on a non-party basis as ordered by the dictator, General Ziaul Haq. Since then, the Abbasi family has not looked back. After the death of his father, Abbasi himself ran as an independent in 1988 and won the seat. In 1990, he was victorious under the banner of the Islami Jamhoori Ittehad and returned to the National Assembly in 1993 and 1997 as a candidate of the PML-N.

The electorate

Covering Murree tehsil, Kotli Sattian tehsil, Kahuta tehsil, Sagri circle union councils of Rawalpindi tehsil and some areas of Kallar Syedan tehsil, NA-57 is a large constituency. The geographical spread makes it one of the more difficult seats to contest, and only eight candidates are in contention. The Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP), the Pakistan Sunni Tehreek (PST), the Tehreek-i-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP), the PML-N, and the PTI as well as three independent candidates are all in the running.

There are 590,372 registered voters in the entire constituency including 279,109 women, who are likely to play a decisive role in the polls.

The only election office in Murree city.—Photo by writer
The candidates

PTI candidate Sadaqat Ali Khan Abbasi could bag only 46,810 votes in the 2013 election, but things may turn out different this time. Ghulam Murtaza Satti, the only PPP candidate to win from Murree, Kahuta and Kotli Sattian after 1985 has now joined the PTI and is a candidate of the party for the provincial assembly seat PP-7.

Satti won the NA seat in 2002 with 74,259 votes. He managed 77,978 votes in 2008 but lost to Shahid Khaqan Abbasi who got 99,988 votes. In 2013, Abbasi bagged 133,906 votes and the count for Satti dropped to44,713 finishing third behind PTI’s Sadaqat Abbasi. This time the PTI is banking on the combined strength of its own supporters and the voters of the PPP in the hope of staging an upset.

The popularity of the PPP in the constituency has been on the decline, and its candidate Mehreen Anwar Raja — from Kahuta tehsil — faces the uphill task of competing with the heavyweights.

The religious sentiment

There is a growing popularity of the TLP in the area led by Khadim Hussain Rizvi. Like its leader, its candidates are hitting hard not only at the PML-N but also at their religious opponents, the Deobandis — a group that has been associated with the PML-N since Gen Zia’s dictatorship.

“The Deobandi groups including the Sipah-i-Sahaba and the Jamaat–i-Islami among others, have a support base in Murree but most of the population adheres to the Barelvi ideology,” said Qasim Abbasi, a journalist from the area. He further explained that the impact of the Deobandis has been overestimated — mostly because they built many mosques, and the Sipah-i-Sahaba had also held several rallies in the past.

The Barelvis are making inroads now, and their candidates for NA-57 — TLP’s Javed Akhtar Abbasi and PST’s Mohammad Muneer Satti — are gaining some momentum.

To make matters even more interesting, the Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat — the rebranded Sipah-i-Sahaba — has extended its support to the PML-N, which is going to antagonise the Barelvi inclined voters even more.

“We do not expect to win the seat but we want to show our loyalty to the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) and damage the PML-N’s vote bank,” said Awais Abbasi. Awais who washes cars for a living, pointed out that everyone in the bazaar had vowed to support the TLP for the sake of their faith.

Traditionally with the PPP, the Shia community has also decided to support the PTI due to the alliance between the Sipah-i-Sahaba types and the PML-N. All things considered, the situation in the constituency seems to be tilted in favour of the PTI.

Dawn

 

[shah_1]

Lifeless election campaign worries PML-N supporters in Khushab
FOR a district that has two seats at stake in the National Assembly and four in the provincial legislature and some 40 candidates in the race for the general election, Khushab seems immune to election fever.

Banners and streamers don’t dominate the skyline and the sight of vehicles adorned with slogans is uncommon. There have been — as yet — no rallies to write home about.

The disconnect is too obvious to be missed and the silence becomes all the more telling when one learns that candidates in the race cover the entire political spectrum — PTI, PML-N, PPP, ANP and MMA and Tehrik-i-Labbaik.

Local heavyweights such as Sumera Malik and the influential Tiwana family are among those in the run.

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The candidates do have an explanation for what looks like a city in slumber. They say the Election Commission, a hyperactive district administration and the provincial government have all combined to ensure that electoral activities remain low-key as all traditional ingredients vital to an election campaign have been excluded from the campaign.

“Panaflexes and banners make up 90 per cent of the election activity these days with their visual appeal and quality to withstand the vagaries of the weather. The ban on panaflexes has hit the campaign hard, robbing it of colour and pageantry,” according to Malik Asif Bha, a former provincial minister and PML-N candidate.

The Election Commission, a hyperactive district administration and the provincial government have all combined to ensure that electoral activities remain low-key as all traditional ingredients vital to an election campaign have been excluded from the campaign.

Only last week, the entire district was cleansed of banners and streamers. Those who muster the courage to put them up again face legal action. So far, 18 FIRs have been lodged against different candidates and their supporters in Khushab district.

As if this were not enough, rallies and corner meetings require permission that can only be obtained after a lengthy and tedious process. This has virtually taken such election staples off the campaign menu. “How can a candidate inject life into electioneering under such a squeeze?” Asif Bha wonders. “But we are trying to work around the code and breathe life into our campaign somehow,” he hastens to add.

The district administration says it’s confronted with a “damned if you do and damned if you don’t” dilemma. It gets flak from candidates and voters if it tries to implement the code of conduct while it is at the receiving end of the wrath of angry high-ups if it does not.

“One can hardly believe, but it is true, that the Special Branch (of police) and intelligence agencies are monitoring the handling (of the campaign) by the district administration. Any laxity draws official warnings,” says a junior employee of the administration.

Khushab district has long been a PML-N stronghold. The party swept the district in 2013, winning all six seats. But pundits say things may be changing now. Although clan and caste loyalties are still at work, even across party lines, some estimates say they seem to be favouring the PTI.

These assessments, however, have not deterred the likes of Sumera Malik, a PML-N nominee. She thinks she has got what it takes to win the NA-93 seat — tradition plus political clout, charisma and the party’s vote bank.

18 is the number of FIRs that have been lodged against different candidates and their supporters in Khushab district so far.

She has latched onto the development narrative of her leader Shehbaz Sharif and has been studiously refraining from uttering anything that can antagonise the establishment. “I beat my opponent (the PTI guy) in the last elections by 40,000 votes. Our campaign is gaining momentum by the day. The area belongs to the PML-N and July 25 is only going to reiterate it,” Sumera Malik asserts, confidence writ large on her face.

Doubts creeping in

Her support base, however, does not seem to be as optimistic. “The voter is feeling dejected because of the way things are moving against the PML-N leadership,” according to Malik Iqbal, a lawyer from Khushab. “The voter has stepped aside silently. The biggest challenge for the party is to revive the sagging morale among the voters.

“If it can lift its supporters’ spirits, it still has a massive vote bank in this area. The moot question is whether the party can ensure their presence in good numbers at the polling station on voting day.”

Malik Ehsanullah Tiwana, the PTI contestant in NA-94, agrees that the campaign has so far been lacklustre and it may affect the turnout. But he claims that “the PTI voters are fully charged and sensing victory like their leaders. The low turnout may be limited to PML-N voters”.

A political observer, who did not want to be named since he is a government employee, offered yet another explanation for the lifeless campaign. He thinks that everything “administratively possible” is being done to ensure a low turnout. “Someone has worked it out that a low turnout will hurt a particular party more than others.

“Otherwise, how can you explain imposition of Section 144 during an election campaign? It hardly makes sense. Nor do other restrictions,” the unnameable analyst reflected.

Dawn

 

[shah_1]

Close contest likely between PTI, PML-N in Shangla

SHANGLA: A tough competition is expected between PTI and PML-N candidates in NA-10 constituency of Shangla district in the July 25 general elections.

MMA candidate and Gujjar community leader Amir Sultan Gujjar is also likely to get reasonable votes of his community, which may dent the position of other parties.

Mr Gujjar had given tough time to Muqam’s son Niaz Ahmed Khan in the local bodies elections in Bengalai union council and lost the seat by only 40 votes.

The district also has two provincial assembly seats -- PK-23 and PK-24. The total registered voters are 374,343, including 162,049 women.

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A total of nine candidates, including three independents, are in the run for NA-10. Ibadullah, former MNA and younger brother of PML-N provincial president Amir Muqam, Haji Sadeed-ur-Rehman of ANP, Waqar Ahmed Khan of PTI, Amir Sultan of MMA, Bakht Naseeb of Awami Workers Party, Engr Hamid Iqbal of PPP, and independents Pervez Ahmed, Safeer Khan and Saeed Fareen.

Sources said the PPP had made an electoral alliance with PML-N in the constituency and won’t contest from here. However, PPP candidate from PK-23, Dr Afsarul Mulk, has denied the reports of alliance with PML-N.

The NA-10 was secured in the 2013 elections by Ibadullah of PML-N, bagging 29,728 votes. However, in the upcoming polls votes would be divided among four to five candidates.

The PML-N has maintained its stronghold in NA-10 but long absence of former MNA from the constituency has disappointed the voters.

According to political experts, Mr Muqam’s withdrawal from NA-10 is likely to affect the PML-N vote bank because his brother had zero performance in the constituency during last five years.

However, the party can cash in on the good vote bank in Puran tehsil as the area is the native town of Ibadullah.

Waqar Ahmed of PTI is also considered strong in NA-10 as he had bagged 2,900 votes when he had contested election from PK-23 in 2008 on the PML-N ticket due to his personal rapport.

His position has been further cemented after the disgruntled PTI worker Pervez Khattak announced withdrawal from the race in his support.

Moreover, PTI chairman Imran Khan held a big power show in Bisham recently which would go in favour of his party’s candidate.

Dawn

 

[shah_1]

PTI, MMA in two-way fight in Lakki Marwat

LAKKI MARWAT: A close contest is expected between Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf’s Ishfaq Ahmad Khan Meenakhel and Maulana Mohammad Anwar of Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal in the only national assembly seat of NA-36 in Lakki Marwat district.

The Election Commission of Pakistan has established 394 polling stations in the district to facilitate 421,224 voters, including 185,062 women, to exercise their right of franchise.

Mr Ishfaq, who remained district nazim for two years and resigned from the post of nazim Lakki-I union council to take part in national elections, belongs to influential Meenakhel family. During his tenure as district nazim he carried out a lot of uplift works both in Lakki city and rural areas, including pavement of streets, water supply schemes, provision of gas and electricity to the residents of urban locality. He also got approved a third power feeder for the city by using the influence of Saifullah brothers.

Political analysts say Mr Ishfaq had improved coordination and relations with councillors to win their support for his future plan of participating in general elections. In many localities the councillors are seeking people’s support for him.

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The PTI candidate has good number of voters in Lakki city and rural areas of PK-91, Lakki Marwat-I. The urban locality has over 30,000 votes and it is expected that many urban voters would vote for Mr Ishfaq, who is also the native of the locality.

However, his vote bank is thin in other two provincial assembly constituencies and he will have to rely on support of Saifullahs in the rural localities to ensure his victory.

The Saifullahs are running a joint campaign with Ishfaq and other PTI aspirants for provincial assembly seats, convincing supporters to cast votes in favour of PTI contenders.

Humayun Saifullah Khan has spared himself to win support for Ishfaq in Kurrum Par; Anwar Saifullah and Salim Saifullah Khan have focused on upper Marwat area to strengthen the position of PTI aspirants. The spiritual dynasties of Taunsa Sharif and Ghari Sharif have also extended their support to the PTI candidates.

On the other hand, MMA’s Maulana Anwar is a new entrant in the electoral politics as he spent over 40 years teaching religious education in a seminary in Darra Pezu town. He has tens of thousands of disciples in the district, who are the major vote bank of MMA candidates.

Though new in politics, Anwar knows the art of linking religion with politics to get votes.

Few days ago, JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman addressed big public gatherings in Tajori and Naurang towns, sending a clear message to rivals not to take light the fight with MMA.

Dawn

 

[Mian]

PTI, MMA in two-way fight in Lakki Marwat

LAKKI MARWAT: A close contest is expected between Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf’s Ishfaq Ahmad Khan Meenakhel and Maulana Mohammad Anwar of Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal in the only national assembly seat of NA-36 in Lakki Marwat district.

The Election Commission of Pakistan has established 394 polling stations in the district to facilitate 421,224 voters, including 185,062 women, to exercise their right of franchise.

Mr Ishfaq, who remained district nazim for two years and resigned from the post of nazim Lakki-I union council to take part in national elections, belongs to influential Meenakhel family. During his tenure as district nazim he carried out a lot of uplift works both in Lakki city and rural areas, including pavement of streets, water supply schemes, provision of gas and electricity to the residents of urban locality. He also got approved a third power feeder for the city by using the influence of Saifullah brothers.

Political analysts say Mr Ishfaq had improved coordination and relations with councillors to win their support for his future plan of participating in general elections. In many localities the councillors are seeking people’s support for him.

ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD

The PTI candidate has good number of voters in Lakki city and rural areas of PK-91, Lakki Marwat-I. The urban locality has over 30,000 votes and it is expected that many urban voters would vote for Mr Ishfaq, who is also the native of the locality.

However, his vote bank is thin in other two provincial assembly constituencies and he will have to rely on support of Saifullahs in the rural localities to ensure his victory.

The Saifullahs are running a joint campaign with Ishfaq and other PTI aspirants for provincial assembly seats, convincing supporters to cast votes in favour of PTI contenders.

Humayun Saifullah Khan has spared himself to win support for Ishfaq in Kurrum Par; Anwar Saifullah and Salim Saifullah Khan have focused on upper Marwat area to strengthen the position of PTI aspirants. The spiritual dynasties of Taunsa Sharif and Ghari Sharif have also extended their support to the PTI candidates.

On the other hand, MMA’s Maulana Anwar is a new entrant in the electoral politics as he spent over 40 years teaching religious education in a seminary in Darra Pezu town. He has tens of thousands of disciples in the district, who are the major vote bank of MMA candidates.

Though new in politics, Anwar knows the art of linking religion with politics to get votes.

Few days ago, JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman addressed big public gatherings in Tajori and Naurang towns, sending a clear message to rivals not to take light the fight with MMA.

Dawn

Salim Saifullah Khan family is with PTI now so it's gonna boost PTI chances.

 

[Mian]

In Chitral it's going to be a 5 way fight!

PTI vs PMLN vs PPP vs MMA vs APML

 

[hussain.r97]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Status of the 30 constituencies we have conducted individuals surveys in since June. Safe seats are places where the competitor stands little chance. Lean seats are seats where one party has a clear lead but a competitor is still in the game whereas toss-ups can swing either way. <a href="https://t.co/tm3BOK5IDh">pic.twitter.com/tm3BOK5IDh</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@OpinionRoshan) <a href="https://twitter.com/OpinionRoshan/status/1018102993433096192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Waseem]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Status of the 30 constituencies we have conducted individuals surveys in since June. Safe seats are places where the competitor stands little chance. Lean seats are seats where one party has a clear lead but a competitor is still in the game whereas toss-ups can swing either way. <a href="https://t.co/tm3BOK5IDh">pic.twitter.com/tm3BOK5IDh</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@OpinionRoshan) <a href="https://twitter.com/OpinionRoshan/status/1018102993433096192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Roshan Pakistan is doing everything that we wanted to do predicting results and that too based on real data

 

[Mian]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Status of the 30 constituencies we have conducted individuals surveys in since June. Safe seats are places where the competitor stands little chance. Lean seats are seats where one party has a clear lead but a competitor is still in the game whereas toss-ups can swing either way. <a href="https://t.co/tm3BOK5IDh">pic.twitter.com/tm3BOK5IDh</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@OpinionRoshan) <a href="https://twitter.com/OpinionRoshan/status/1018102993433096192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Roshan Pakistan is doing everything that we wanted to do predicting results and that too based on real data

I think Roshan Pakistan guys are actively following this thread and doing all they can to help us

 

[WebGuru]

We are comfortably ahead in my constituency NA-55 (Attock-1). PTI candidate Major (R) Tahir Sadiq is going to win this seat easily but he need to focus more on NA-56 (Attock-2) where the fight is still 50/50 in my view.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PML(N) incumbent candidate headed for a landslide defeat in Attock. <a href="https://t.co/NPD9E0Qmq7">pic.twitter.com/NPD9E0Qmq7</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@OpinionRoshan) <a href="https://twitter.com/OpinionRoshan/status/1018173951091134465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Amirforpresident]

We are comfortably ahead in my constituency NA-55 (Attock-1). PTI candidate Major (R) Tahir Sadiq is going to win this seat easily but he need to focus more on NA-56 (Attock-2) where the fight is still 50/50 in my view.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PML(N) incumbent candidate headed for a landslide defeat in Attock. <a href="https://t.co/NPD9E0Qmq7">pic.twitter.com/NPD9E0Qmq7</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@OpinionRoshan) <a href="https://twitter.com/OpinionRoshan/status/1018173951091134465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Are You from Attock bro My parents are from a village nearby called Jalalia.

 

[WebGuru]

Are You from Attock bro My parents are from a village nearby called Jalalia.

Ahaa Jalalia means you are from a chaachi family of Attock? Yep i am from main Attock city.

 

[Mian]

Lot of respect for these guys they traveled from UK and US not just to vote but to do door to door campaign for PTI in different cities saw them doing it in Karachi and now in Lahore and there are many volunteers of PTI who came from overseas to be part of the campaign.

 

[Amirforpresident]

Ahaa Jalalia means you are from a chaachi family of Attock? Yep i am from main Attock city.

Yes I am
Finally someone from that area. Ive been there about 3 years ago and cant wait to go back.
But dont want to derail the thread too much.

 

[LegendInzi]

Mehkama Zaraat now going after Dep. Information Secretary of PTI. Shame

https://www.facebook.com/nadia.choudhary.988/videos/426439437873557/
https://www.facebook.com/nadia.choudhary.988/videos/426443381206496/

 

[Mian]

Mehkama Zaraat now going after Dep. Information Secretary of PTI. Shame

https://www.facebook.com/nadia.choudhary.988/videos/426439437873557/
https://www.facebook.com/nadia.choudhary.988/videos/426443381206496/

Come on mehekema zeraat is not that dumb. I went through her timeline and what i found was she want to take credit of Panama case for giving some docs and she tagged like hundred of PTI leaders to get retweets and later threatened to do a press conf to get justice because she is saying i helped them get the docs from uk not zulfi. She is claiming she is the heroine of panama case lol

 

[last_knight]

Mehkama Zaraat now going after Dep. Information Secretary of PTI. Shame

https://www.facebook.com/nadia.choudhary.988/videos/426439437873557/
https://www.facebook.com/nadia.choudhary.988/videos/426443381206496/

Lol. You made me visit FB after an year.
My first impression is she was repeating what was being told to her. Long pause between sentences and her concentration + body language between sentences tells me someone was telling her what exactly she should say.

Let us wait it unfold more.

 

[Mian]

Lol. You made me visit FB after an year.
My first impression is she was repeating what was being told to her. Long pause between sentences and her concentration + body language between sentences tells me someone was telling her what exactly she should say.

Let us wait it unfold more.

Check my post above she wanted to be heroine of Panama case and wanted to take credit.

 

[Strike!]

I was on Umrah for the past four days, so I missed the jailing of Sharif & daughter.

 

[Mian]

I was on Umrah for the past four days, so I missed the jailing of Sharif & daughter.

Umrah Mubarak bhai jaan and welcome back!

 

[Bewal Express]

I was on Umrah for the past four days, so I missed the jailing of Sharif & daughter.

According to Rana the Qatil- waiting for criminals like NS at the airport is akin to a Hajj for Nooras.

 

[Strike!]

According to Rana the Qatil- waiting for criminals like NS at the airport is akin to a Hajj for Nooras.

Yes, just read that quote. What an embarrassment this man is.

 

[Strike!]

Umrah Mubarak bhai jaan and welcome back!

Thanks, I will try and post some updates again.

 

[Mian]

Thanks, I will try and post some updates again.

You should thread isn't active like before from last couple of days

Where are all of you guys? 10 more days to go! [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] [MENTION=135]Waseem[/MENTION] [MENTION=147106]PakWarrior[/MENTION] [MENTION=146984]awan_from_soon[/MENTION] [MENTION=48598]saeedhk[/MENTION] [MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=58539]waqar goraya[/MENTION] [MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION]

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] i have been in touch and people say that after khan jalsa things are rapidly turning in pti favor in lower Dir.Siraj ul haq is nervous and you can see it from his jalsa and he has been confined to his own constituency ,

 

[Mian]

[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] i have been in touch and people say that after khan jalsa things are rapidly turning in pti favor in lower Dir.Siraj ul haq is nervous and you can see it from his jalsa and he has been confined to his own constituency ,

Thats great but was there any JUIF votebank in Dir? Because MMA means not just JI but also JUIF vote will go to Siraj

 

[DRsohail]

Thats great but was there any JUIF votebank in Dir? Because MMA means not just JI but also JUIF vote will go to Siraj

In lower dir they have 20k votes in upper its almost non existing.

 

[DRsohail]

Thats great but was there any JUIF votebank in Dir? Because MMA means not just JI but also JUIF vote will go to Siraj

Sirajul haq was saying a day before to come with your women to the polling stations to cast their vote for islami inqilab.The same person who was strictly against women vote in Dir,The hypocrite.

 

[Mian]

In lower dir they have 20k votes in upper its almost non existing.

That votebank can play a big role to help MMA

Sirajul haq was saying a day before to come with your women to the polling stations to cast their vote for islami inqilab.The same person who was strictly against women vote in Dir,The hypocrite.

Tabdeeli aa nae rahi tabdeeli aa gae he!

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]..what about Lahore.Can we win 5 seats there ?

 

[last_knight]

Islamabad-Quetta-Jhang-Faisalabad-Sialkot-Islamabad.
This is IK schedule for 15 July.

FREAK

 

[Mian]

Islamabad-Quetta-Jhang-Faisalabad-Sialkot-Islamabad.
This is IK schedule for 15 July.

FREAK

I would like to use all those drugs mentioned in Reham's book

 

[Mian]

[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]..what about Lahore.Can we win 5 seats there ?

minimum 4 but we can get more depending on wave and campaign

 

[last_knight]

I would like to use all those drugs mentioned in Reham's book

IK covering 1000s of miles daily.
SS couldn't cover 10 miles on 13th.

And then people talk about level playing field.

 

[PakWarrior]

I was on Umrah for the past four days, so I missed the jailing of Sharif & daughter.

Umrah Mubarak Bro. May Allah grant yours and your family's Duas.

I've also been less active here as I've been busy with family.

Awaiting a prediction sheet from our brothers in this thread.

I'm very excited as we head in to the final days. I believe Allah is going to give us a great blessing on July 25th.

My analysis as of today:

PTI wave is continuing to build in Pakistan but it's going to be a tough battle in Punjab despite Nawaz's imprisonment. Guys, it's looking like a massive fight and 4 or 5 swing votes in favour of PTI can really set the momentum on the 25th.

 

[Syed1]

IK covering 1000s of miles daily.
SS couldn't cover 10 miles on 13th.

And then people talk about level playing field.

NS London se Lahore pohanch gaya leken SS airport na pohanch saka

 

[Syed1]

I'm most concerned about NS getting sympathy vote.... Our jahil awaam is too easy to sway.

 

[Syed1]

IK will win atleast 4 out of his 5 seats. He might lose the Bannu seat I think

 

[Mian]

IK covering 1000s of miles daily.
SS couldn't cover 10 miles on 13th.

And then people talk about level playing field.

IK is super fit and his die hard attitude at this age is amazing. I remember even in 2013 we had multiple jalsas every day but this time IK is breaking all records in numbers

 

[mmkextreme_1]

I'm most concerned about NS getting sympathy vote.... Our jahil awaam is too easy to sway.

Agreed.

This is my number one concern. I can just see swing voters with the mindset, "yaar anu kandhi na leader, wapis aya hei apni awam wasi...agar chor hundha yan dhar pok hundha, wapis na aandha" sadly this is the mentality in Pakistan and especially where N leagues vote banks is.

 

[Strike!]

https://youtu.be/L2Mte2ofel4
https://youtu.be/8dRxzFbsJPs
https://youtu.be/5GUJqBkWLYU
https://youtu.be/HFECRjeezDk
https://youtu.be/ij65-VhtY6A
https://youtu.be/zU89hSUzvHQ
https://youtu.be/HQac_V-eVek
https://youtu.be/ij8DPFRmFEA
https://youtu.be/wOzM0cQmXTg
https://youtu.be/BifBl0ZMYaU
https://youtu.be/x9n_qDpU3iM
https://youtu.be/pXwGkhTupgQ
https://youtu.be/b0MgsbcrnnI
https://youtu.be/qq1H25kUn6Q

 

[khanz141]

Sirajul haq was saying a day before to come with your women to the polling stations to cast their vote for islami inqilab.The same person who was strictly against women vote in Dir,The hypocrite.

I think one other thing helping PTIs cause in the area is MMA sitting out their candidate in NA 3... JI wasn't happy with this decision and is still backing their candidate as and independent.

 

[DRsohail]

I think one other thing helping PTIs cause in the area is MMA sitting out their candidate in NA 3... JI wasn't happy with this decision and is still backing their candidate as and independent.

JI and JUIF are not on the same page in Dir.They have allot of issues .

 

[Strike!]

https://youtu.be/69dOXUUhRsE
https://youtu.be/U_WK5W6vgQA
https://youtu.be/3TZPA3j9vug

 

[Bilal_103]

Can anyone give a rough estimate of how many seats pti will take?

 

[hussain.r97]

Can anyone give a rough estimate of how many seats pti will take?

At this stage it looks like PTI will take 90-95, but there is potential to go past 100 if things go well. There are a lot of seats that are very tight contests, and it will all come down to turnout.

90 seats would mean PTI would need to bring MQM on board, while 100 would ensure that they are kept out.

 

[PakWarrior]

Can anyone give a rough estimate of how many seats pti will take?

Nobody knows. Nobody can say how many seats PTI will take. Will have to wait until the 25th.

The competition in Punjab is going to be tough. PTI needs a minimum of 100 seats overall and then with the help of independents can form government.

They will need 65 to 70 seats from Punjab alone. But this is not a foregone conclusion as PMLN is still strong in Punjab despite everything.

If PTI wins 50 to 60 seats from Punjab then they will not form a government.

 

[Pakpak]

Nobody knows. Nobody can say how many seats PTI will take. Will have to wait until the 25th.

The competition in Punjab is going to be tough. PTI needs a minimum of 100 seats overall and then with the help of independents can form government.

They will need 65 to 70 seats from Punjab alone. But this is not a foregone conclusion as PMLN is still strong in Punjab despite everything.

If PTI wins 50 to 60 seats from Punjab then they will not form a government.

So sad people still supporting PMLN. After all this.

 

[hussain.r97]

Nobody knows. Nobody can say how many seats PTI will take. Will have to wait until the 25th.

The competition in Punjab is going to be tough. PTI needs a minimum of 100 seats overall and then with the help of independents can form government.

They will need 65 to 70 seats from Punjab alone. But this is not a foregone conclusion as PMLN is still strong in Punjab despite everything.

If PTI wins 50 to 60 seats from Punjab then they will not form a government.

I think PTI can form goverment with 90 seats, but it would mean forming a coalition with the MQM involved.

(PTI 90, MQM 11, BAP - 4, GDA - 9, PML-Q 4, AML 2, PSP 2, IND 18) Total 140

If PTI can get even 97 seats, it would keep MQM out of any coalition.

 

[Mian]

I think PTI can form goverment with 90 seats, but it would mean forming a coalition with the MQM involved.

(PTI 90, MQM 11, BAP - 4, GDA - 9, PML-Q 4, AML 2, PSP 2, IND 18) Total 140

If PTI can get even 97 seats, it would keep MQM out of any coalition.

That's going to be a very weak government without MQM how exactly we will make sure everyone from rest of them vote for us whenever there is a bill on table

 

[Mian]

So sad people still supporting PMLN. After all this.

Their propaganda is so powerful and some people are so dumb you can't believe. I was told by a guy today he is going to vote for PMLN because Imran said he will give seats to Qadianis in NA and that Khatam e Nabuvat Bill is saazish by Agencies to blame PMLN I kept asking him show me the video where Imran said this? I also offered him to show the clips where Nawaz said Qadianis are our brother but he refused to believe and blamed IK as a Qadiani supporter.

 

[hussain.r97]

That's going to be a very weak government without MQM how exactly we will make sure everyone from rest of them vote for us whenever there is a bill on table

That is the main problem, and I think it would be an even weaker government if it was PML-N, PPP, MMA, MQM, ANP.

It's really important that PTI gets enough seats to keep the number of coalition partners as low as possible, but I have a feeling that they will still form government if they end up with 90+ seats. Won't be ideal in any way.

Right now, the best case scenario is PTI voters turn up next Wednesday and give PTI 110 seats. That would mean (PTI 110, AML 2, PML-Q 4, IND 20) Total 136. + PTI have decent relations with BAP and GDA, and can try and bring them on board to vote if PML-Q don't cooperate.

 

[Mian]

That is the main problem, and I think it would be an even weaker government if it was PML-N, PPP, MMA, MQM, ANP.

It's really important that PTI gets enough seats to keep the number of coalition partners as low as possible, but I have a feeling that they will still form government if they end up with 90+ seats. Won't be ideal in any way.

Right now, the best case scenario is PTI voters turn up next Wednesday and give PTI 110 seats. That would mean (PTI 110, AML 2, PML-Q 4, IND 20) Total 136. + PTI have decent relations with BAP and GDA, and can try and bring them on board to vote if PML-Q don't cooperate.

True these coalition partners can change their mind anytime so you need to have safe numbers by having more coalition partner in case some of them turn.