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Josh e Junoon is one option. [MENTION=152376]Manager102[/MENTION] [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] [MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] [MENTION=139314]ARK Rafay[/MENTION] pitch in with suggestions and votes!
 
:))) I love this :))) “Panama wala nawaz is a champion” :))) :))) :))) :))) let’s do this
 
[MENTION=152376]Manager102[/MENTION] bhai, spend some extra time in the nets... :yk
 
Mueez said:
:))) done!

Btw, you are looking in great touch!

Bowled brilliantly :akhtar
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I won’t have a diamond contract anymore so no incentive for the actual tournament :afaq it’s okay, we have other financing alternatives :butt
 
Mueez said:
[MENTION=152376]Manager102[/MENTION] bhai, spend some extra time in the nets... :yk
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Had a decent outing in a diamond less contract game.. good warm up for the real deal starting soon!

Saving the good stuff for the Tigers games!
 
Manager102 said:
Had a decent outing in a diamond less contract game.. good warm up for the real deal starting soon!

Saving the good stuff for the Tigers games!
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That’s more like it!

Anyways a good solid innings today!
 
Mueez said:
But this means that you were right about the fast-medium bowlers :afridi
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I hope so but no idea what it looks like without a contract, whether fast > fast medium or not. I suspect that fast medium go for fewer runs but fast takes more wickets. So we’ll have to see
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
I hope so but no idea what it looks like without a contract, whether fast > fast medium or not. I suspect that fast medium go for fewer runs but fast takes more wickets. So we’ll have to see
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Who needs a contact when there is a boost :afridi

But yeah we need to see some more matches to conclude something out of it.
 
Mueez said:
Who needs a contact when there is a boost :afridi

But yeah we need to see some more matches to conclude something out of it.
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*contract, pfff this auto correct stresses me out sometimes... :sarf
 
Please check this table for errors
Name Role Bat hand Bowl hand BowlType Contract Bat Skill Bowl Skill
Manager102 Bat Right Right legspin Diamond 85 0
ARK Rafay Bat Right Right medium Diamond 85 0
Bhaag Viru Bhaag Bat Left Left offspin Diamond 85 0
Mueez Bowler Right Right offspin Diamond 30 85
ahmadharis1 Bat Right Right medium Regular 75 0
Ibrahim.Imran Bat Left Left fast Regular 75 0
sweep_shot Bat AR Left Left legspin Regular 65 55
Thunderbolt14 Bowl Right Right fastmedium Regular 20 75
QalandarFan Bowl Left Left fastmedium Regular 20 75
Invincible Gujjar Bowl Right Right fast Regular 20 75
StreetSmart BowlAR Right Left fastmedium Regular 55 65
CadPakFan WK Left Right offspin Regular 75 0
Jacques Kallis BatAR Right Right fastmedium IntReg 65 55
Wasim Akram Bowl Left Left fast IntReg 20 75
Ravindra Jadeja BowlAR Left Left legspin IntReg 55 65
 
We did well but I think we can do better. Actually my thinking is if we play spicy, our spinners will do just as good if not better but our all rounders come into play (and we have to play them regardless since the all rounders are our only other spinning options). We will also be boosting them so actually we will have 3 top class spinners/wicket takers on a spicy pitch, as well as better batting depth than the other team since we are playing two boosted all rounders (which is equivalent to 8 batsmen, 4 of whom are diamond class)

Let’s try both normal and spicy and see which works better?
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
We did well but I think we can do better. Actually my thinking is if we play spicy, our spinners will do just as good if not better but our all rounders come into play (and we have to play them regardless since the all rounders are our only other spinning options). We will also be boosting them so actually we will have 3 top class spinners/wicket takers on a spicy pitch, as well as better batting depth than the other team since we are playing two boosted all rounders (which is equivalent to 8 batsmen, 4 of whom are diamond class)

Let’s try both normal and spicy and see which works better?
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I haven’t even mentioned the third boost, which we can play around with :sachin
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
We did well but I think we can do better. Actually my thinking is if we play spicy, our spinners will do just as good if not better but our all rounders come into play (and we have to play them regardless since the all rounders are our only other spinning options). We will also be boosting them so actually we will have 3 top class spinners/wicket takers on a spicy pitch, as well as better batting depth than the other team since we are playing two boosted all rounders (which is equivalent to 8 batsmen, 4 of whom are diamond class)

Let’s try both normal and spicy and see which works better?
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Thunderbolt14 said:
I haven’t even mentioned the third boost, which we can play around with :sachin
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Indeed. We will try out the spicy pitch as well in the practice matches and see what happens.

Absolutely agree with you about the allrounders.
 
Sounds like a solid strategy... all about that comparative advantage which we'll have with both the pitch+bowler type combo and batting depth
 
jeetu said:
Please check this table for errors
Name Role Bat hand Bowl hand BowlType Contract Bat Skill Bowl Skill
Manager102 Bat Right Right legspin Diamond 85 0
ARK Rafay Bat Right Right medium Diamond 85 0
Bhaag Viru Bhaag Bat Left Left offspin Diamond 85 0
Mueez Bowler Right Right offspin Diamond 30 85
ahmadharis1 Bat Right Right medium Regular 75 0
Ibrahim.Imran Bat Left Left fast Regular 75 0
sweep_shot Bat AR Left Left legspin Regular 65 55
Thunderbolt14 Bowl Right Right fastmedium Regular 20 75
QalandarFan Bowl Left Left fastmedium Regular 20 75
Invincible Gujjar Bowl Right Right fast Regular 20 75
StreetSmart BowlAR Right Left fastmedium Regular 55 65
CadPakFan WK Left Right offspin Regular 75 0
Jacques Kallis BatAR Right Right fastmedium IntReg 65 55
Wasim Akram Bowl Left Left fast IntReg 20 75
Ravindra Jadeja BowlAR Left Left legspin IntReg 55 65
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I am Right Handed :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I am Right Handed :inti
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Mueez said:
Team Name:

Cornered Tigers

Team Logo:
View attachment 100738

Stadium Name:
The Cage

Player Roles

Diamond:
[MENTION=152376]Manager102[/MENTION] - Bat (Right Hand Bat, Right Arm Leg Spin)
[MENTION=139314]ARK Rafay[/MENTION] - Bat (Right Hand Bat, Right Arm Medium)
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] - Bat (Left Hand Bat, Left Arm Off Spin)
[MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION] - Bowler (Right Arm Off Spin, Right Hand Bat)


Regular:
[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] - Bat AR (Left Hand Bat, Left Arm Leg Spin)
[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] - Bowl (Right Arm Fast-Medium, Right Hand Bat)
[MENTION=141804]QalandarFan[/MENTION] - Bowl (Left Arm Fast Medium, Left Hand Bat)
[MENTION=143916]CadPakFan[/MENTION] - WK-Bat (Left Hand Bat, Right Arm Off Spin)
[MENTION=142013]ahmadharis1[/MENTION] - Bat (Right Hand Bat, Right Arm Medium)
[MENTION=147605]Invincible Gujjar[/MENTION] - Bowl (Right Arm Fast, Right Hand Bat)
[MENTION=149016]Ibrahim.Imran[/MENTION] - Bat (Left Hand Bat, Left Arm Fast)
[MENTION=138307]StreetSmart[/MENTION] - Bowl AR (Left Arm Fast-Medium, Right Hand Bat)


International Regular:
# Wasim Akram - Bowl (Left Arm Fast, Left Hand Bat)
# Ravindra Jadeja - Bowl AR (Left Arm Leg Spin, Left Hand Bat)
# Jacques Kallis - Bat AR (Right Hand Bat, Right Arm Fast-Medium)



Captain: [MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION]
Vice Captain: [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]

Ground Characteristics:
Bounce: High
Swing: Low
Seam: Low
Spin: High
Deterioration: Low

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I went by this post.
 
Well played lads.

Tough luck for us.

Although I’m proud of how our batsmen showed up during the game.
 
[MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] can we make one player type change? There is still time until the deadline and now we have seen how the sim works
 
Watsupdoc said:
Would be unfair on other teams, unless all teams are allowed to make changes.
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I have no issues with changes , as long as final database is done (covering all 6 teams).
 
[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] let’s ask some practice matches.

We could go for two matches at home and one away.

Any ideas for the opposition, I was thinking about Misbah United, Pindi Boyz and Cerebral Assassin’s.

Let me know.
 
[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] want 6 batsmen, just for the guarantee?
 
Mueez said:
[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] want 6 batsmen, just for the guarantee?
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If you guys wants changes like add batsman in exchange for Bowlers or AR. Please do it quicker. So you can see it on trial matches.
 
Mueez said:
[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] want 6 batsmen, just for the guarantee?
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I was thinking of converting one fast bowler to a batsman as this will give us less variety but the option of a 7-man batting attack (it seems there is no benefit to playing 4 bowlers vs 5 bowlers in terms of variety, so I’m thinking we should switch [MENTION=147605]Invincible Gujjar[/MENTION] to a batsman and play 7 pure batsmen, 2 all rounders (spinners), 1 pure spinner diamond (you) and 1 fast bowler (me). It seems like this would be the optimal use of resources. This way Gujjar bhai will also be able to play more matches.

On fast bowling friendly pitches we will swap the AR spinners with AR fast bowlers. For shorter formats, we will still have the option for 5 bowlers as we have Wasim Akram and QalandarFan.

Is this okay? To summarize:

Player type change for [MENTION=147605]Invincible Gujjar[/MENTION] from (Bowl, Right Arm Fast, Right Arm Bat) to (Bat, Right Arm Bat)
 
Regarding matches — I want to try two ODI with our bowlers at the Cage. First one will be spin heavy 3/2 attack, on a spicy pitch. Second one will be spin heavy 3/2 attack on a flat pitch.

For the third game request, we can do the First Class game 3/2 on a spicy pitch against the Cerebral Assassins like you agreed with [MENTION=23911]Moh@n[/MENTION] on the other thread.
 
Review this and if you like it submit [MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION]

- ODI -
(boosts not available for trial in Warm Ups)

CORNERED TIGERS CC would like to play a warm up ODI against LOOSE CANNONS CC (Match Request #1)

Venue : The Cage

Pitch : FLAT

Toss : Heads, Bat First

Playing XI
Suggested Squad

[MENTION=142013]ahmadharis1[/MENTION]
[MENTION=149016]Ibrahim.Imran[/MENTION]
[MENTION=152376]Manager102[/MENTION]
[MENTION=143916]CadPakFan[/MENTION]
[MENTION=139314]ARK Rafay[/MENTION]
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]
[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION]
# Ravindra Jadeja
[MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION]
[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]
[MENTION=141804]QalandarFan[/MENTION]
 
[MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION] write up for the second match request, what do you think:

- ODI -
(boosts not available for trial in Warm Ups)

CORNERED TIGERS CC would like to play a warm up ODI against CEREBRAL ASSASSINS CC (Match Request #2)

Venue : The Cage

Pitch : SPICY

Toss : Heads, Bat First

Playing XI
Suggested Squad
[MENTION=142013]ahmadharis1[/MENTION]
[MENTION=149016]Ibrahim.Imran[/MENTION]
[MENTION=152376]Manager102[/MENTION]
[MENTION=143916]CadPakFan[/MENTION]
[MENTION=139314]ARK Rafay[/MENTION]
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]
[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION]
# Ravindra Jadeja
[MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION]
[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]
[MENTION=141804]QalandarFan[/MENTION]
 
- FC/TEST -
(boosts not available for trial in Warm Ups)

CORNERED TIGERS CC would like to play a warm up FC/TEST against CEREBRAL ASSASSINS CC (Match Request #3)

Venue : The Cage

Pitch : SPICY

Toss : Heads, Bat First

Playing XI
Suggested Squad
[MENTION=142013]ahmadharis1[/MENTION]
[MENTION=149016]Ibrahim.Imran[/MENTION]
[MENTION=152376]Manager102[/MENTION]
[MENTION=143916]CadPakFan[/MENTION]
[MENTION=139314]ARK Rafay[/MENTION]
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]
[MENTION=147605]Invincible Gujjar[/MENTION]
[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION]
# Ravindra Jadeja
[MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION]
[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]
 
I find the requested matches absolutely fine [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] bhai.

Also I agree with converting [MENTION=147605]Invincible Gujjar[/MENTION] into a bat as I also saw in the sim that there is no difference between 4 bowlers and 5.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
I was thinking of converting one fast bowler to a batsman as this will give us less variety but the option of a 7-man batting attack (it seems there is no benefit to playing 4 bowlers vs 5 bowlers in terms of variety, so I’m thinking we should switch [MENTION=147605]Invincible Gujjar[/MENTION] to a batsman and play 7 pure batsmen, 2 all rounders (spinners), 1 pure spinner diamond (you) and 1 fast bowler (me). It seems like this would be the optimal use of resources. This way Gujjar bhai will also be able to play more matches.

On fast bowling friendly pitches we will swap the AR spinners with AR fast bowlers. For shorter formats, we will still have the option for 5 bowlers as we have Wasim Akram and QalandarFan.

Is this okay? To summarize:

Player type change for [MENTION=147605]Invincible Gujjar[/MENTION] from (Bowl, Right Arm Fast, Right Arm Bat) to (Bat, Right Arm Bat)
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Exactly what I was thinking about the ARs.

Let’s go ahead with it :salute
 
Fantastic :salute I appreciate you being so receptive to my advice, we have a fantastic chemistry
 
Some exciting practice games lined up. Meray sherdil are you ready? Lots of cash to be made:butt
 
[MENTION=152376]Manager102[/MENTION] [MENTION=143916]CadPakFan[/MENTION] and the rest of the team.

Well played Tigers.

Nothing to worry about, we just played two proper bowlers.

Looking forward to the next match, exciting prospect!
 
[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]

Batting looking very promising!

Boosts will be very handy for us :ik
 
Things coming together well!

The context of the boosts is v important... we are being super competitive without the key to our whole strategy. Very promising!
 
One insight is that it might be beneficial to topload — openers did really well in the game, so maybe play our best batsmen at those positions so they take the game longer.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
One insight is that it might be beneficial to topload — openers did really well in the game, so maybe play our best batsmen at those positions so they take the game longer.
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Yes indeed.

Openers have done really well in both matches, however those pitches weren’t that supporting for the bowlers.

Let’s see what happens on a seaming wicket...
 
Manager102 said:
Things coming together well!

The context of the boosts is v important... we are being super competitive without the key to our whole strategy. Very promising!
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Agreed! These practice games have helped us identify key strengths and modifications which should be immensely helpful with the actual tournament.
 
What a win boys!

Kaptaan :ik must be proud of you guys!

Bounced back like true Cornered Tigers!

Well played team, great performance!
[MENTION=152376]Manager102[/MENTION] [MENTION=139314]ARK Rafay[/MENTION] [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] [MENTION=149016]Ibrahim.Imran[/MENTION] [MENTION=143916]CadPakFan[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] [MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION]

Our bowling attack looked decent and the batting is in top notch form.

Hyped for the next match :akhtar
 
This was the playing XI which we played in today’s win.
[MENTION=142013]ahmadharis1[/MENTION]
[MENTION=149016]Ibrahim.Imran[/MENTION]
[MENTION=152376]Manager102[/MENTION]
[MENTION=143916]CadPakFan[/MENTION]
[MENTION=139314]ARK Rafay[/MENTION]
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]
[MENTION=147605]Invincible Gujjar[/MENTION]
[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION]
# Ravindra Jadeja
[MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION]
[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]

3-1 spin attack was nasty!
 
Agreed, but keep in mind they were playing an all pace attack so victory was expected. What are your thoughts about batting positions and boosts? I’m thinking top load, but not sure about boosts.

Double boost AR + boost AR is one option
Boost AR + boost AR + boost batsman is the second option

I like the first option more personally
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
Agreed, but keep in mind they were playing an all pace attack so victory was expected. What are your thoughts about batting positions and boosts? I’m thinking top load, but not sure about boosts.

Double boost AR + boost AR is one option
Boost AR + boost AR + boost batsman is the second option

I like the first option more personally
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Having followed the matches I agree with the batting position being top load.

Batsmen are doing well...

Also agree with the double boost AR as that could be the difference between us and another team.

boost AR + boost AR + boost batsmen is also a good shout but I think that is more efficient for Test matches instead of LO...

So let’s see what happens during the LO games and once we know what suits us the best - we will choose once again...

However double boost AR is our priority and hopefully it will turn out good.
 
Some good lessons from the game. Analyzing the bowling unit: it seems that QalandarFan is more of a swing bowler whereas I am more of a seam bowler, given the ground characteristics (average seam, low swing). This will explain the drastic difference as we are the same bowler in all other respects. There should be no harm if we replace QalandarFan with Wasim Akram in the actual match (as we don’t know what his actual stats are but surely they must be at least equal if not better). (There was also high bounce, which may or may not be relevant)

Let’s keep an eye out for grounds where there is a difference between Seam attributes and Swing attributes.
 
Just looked through the scorecard. QalandarFan has the best economy at SD ka Adda which has High swing and Average seam.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
Some good lessons from the game. Analyzing the bowling unit: it seems that QalandarFan is more of a swing bowler whereas I am more of a seam bowler, given the ground characteristics (average seam, low swing). This will explain the drastic difference as we are the same bowler in all other respects. There should be no harm if we replace QalandarFan with Wasim Akram in the actual match (as we don’t know what his actual stats are but surely they must be at least equal if not better). (There was also high bounce, which may or may not be relevant)

Let’s keep an eye out for grounds where there is a difference between Seam attributes and Swing attributes.
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Good analysis I was looking at the scorecard and I was wondering why QalandarFan went for a plenty of runs.

Spinners did a okay job too.

I’ve come to the conclusion that spicy pitches are offering something for the spinners and fast-bowlers.
 
Loose Cannons
Ground Characterstics

Bounce : High
Swing : High
Seam : Avg
Spin : Avg
Deterioration : Low

Misbah United
Ground Characteristics

Bounce - High
Seam - Avg
Swing - Low
Spin - High
Deterioration - Good

Lightning Hawks
Ground Characteristics:

Bounce: Average
Swing: High
Seam: Average
Spin: Low
Deterioration: Low

Cerebral Assasins
Ground Characteristics
Bounce: Average
Swing: High
Seam: High
Spin: Low
Deterioration: Low

The Pindi Boyz
Ground Characteristics:

Bounce - High
Seam - Average
Swing - High
Spin - Low
Deterioration - Low


[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] ground characteristics of each team.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
Better swing than seam: LC, LH, PB

Better seam than swing: MU

Equal: CA, CT
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So we could play Wasim Akram or QalandarFan against MU and CA.

:ssa

Also I was thinking about playing spinners against CA and MU as they have pitches which offer something for the spinners.
 
Definitely, what do you think about the tradeoff. Maybe we can use Jacques Kallis and StreetSmart as well
 
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