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[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

Giroux28 said:
I would ask for CO hosting rights for the WC26 or the WC31.

This will give PCB to fully renovate the stadiums and host a share of the matches in one of these future ICC events.
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PCB will not get any co- hosting rights with india .

Anyway Current cycle hosting rights already sold out .

And the way things turning out for Champions trophy i dont think PCB will gets any hosting rights for next 10-12 years either.
 
Savak said:
The only thing the ICC and BCCI can offer to the PCB is a massive bump in revenue from ICC shares, an increase in the hosting fee in exchange for approving the Hybrid model
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massive bump in ICC revenue? sure. will 400% bump be enough?

your delusions are back.

ICC approved a budget for each scenario. end of story
 
Devadwal said:
PCB will not get any co- hosting rights with india .

Anyway Current cycle hosting rights already sold out .

And the way things turning out for Champions trophy i dont think PCB will gets any hosting rights for next 10-12 years either.
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Who are you to make that call? ICC has awarded India 3 events. If some sort of negotiation could solve the current CT issue and PCB demand is to be a part of one of them I'm sure ICC would consider it.
 
Expected but surprised. I genuinely thought that given an ICC tournament India will not be able to pull it off. But seems like Indian deep state is wiser and does not want to give any economic benefits to Pakistan. So good move overall.

It's not only cricket, it hurts tourism dollars and local economy of Pakistan. It's an open declaration of War. Thank you Modi Ji for the experience. We are Dushman Mulk of Kaafirs after all.
 
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Rajdeep said:
If this becomes a hybrid model, your Bangla boys also need to travel between Pak and UAE to play India. Remember Ind, Pak, BD and NZ in same group.

However, since your team won't progress after group stage, it will be travelling only once to play India and losing it ofcourse.

:kp
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His team is Australia
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
He does not decide. We the people of India decide and hence elected current government to make these moves against Pakistan..
It's a declaration of war.. an economic war.
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Did I say he decides I'm just saying what's reported in the media.

What's up with Indians bullying and showing attitude in the past few days?
 
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emranabbas said:
Did I say he decides I'm just saying what's reported in the media.

What's up with Indians bullying and showing attitude in the past few days?
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Chill bro. They are going mad because Pakistan was given hosting rights for an event they lost badly against the same team that is hosting it now...

Wounds are still fresh bro...
 
These Indians here are hypocrite.
They can't see their own PM is a mass murderer by killing Muslim and Hindus in India, Thousand of students in Bangladesh, many more in Kashmir, 7 sisters.
If there is any proper investigation all these Indian agents including their head PM should be rotting in jail forever.
Also no point to talk to these people as they are blind or may be involve same criminal activities themselves. No wonder they idolized Modi as their god.
 
Shafi said:
These Indians here are hypocrite.
They can't see their own PM is a mass murderer by killing Muslim and Hindus in India, Thousand of students in Bangladesh, many more in Kashmir, 7 sisters.
If there is any proper investigation all these Indian agents including their head PM should be rotting in jail forever.
Also no point to talk to these people as they are blind or may be involve same criminal activities themselves. No wonder they idolized Modi as their god.
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:ROFLMAO:

Ok complain against India, Modi, Indians. Go.
 
Giroux28 said:
Who are you to make that call? ICC has awarded India 3 events. If some sort of negotiation could solve the current CT issue and PCB demand is to be a part of one of them I'm sure ICC would consider it.
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PCB can demand anything and ICC can say no anything after "consideration".
 

No clandestine contact with India on cricket: FO​


Foreign Office Spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch on Thursday rubbished the claim of behind-the-scene talks with India on Champions Trophy cricket.

In her weekly press briefing, Ms Baloch denied that Pakistan and India were holding discussion on cricket. “The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is in contact with the ICC (International Cricket Council) on the Champions Trophy [tournament],” she added.


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No clandestine contact with India on cricket: FO

Ms Baloch expressed Pakistan’s concerns over Indian support to terror groups
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Everyday new new theory coming.

Yesterday that famous journalist was saying that Indian govt demanded something in return to send its cricket team to Pakistan. They were waiting for Pak govts response all these months. However, Pak govt rejected GOIs request and immidiately after that BCCI send the letter to ICC saying team India won't travel. That is why the decision came so late.

Not sure how true it is but he also gave a hint of what Indian govts demands were. Can anyone guess?
 
Vikrant Gupta from Sports Tak now reporting that India has proposed to host the CT25 between March - April should Pakistan choose to boycott the event.
 
Rajdeep said:
Everyday new new theory coming.

Yesterday that famous journalist was saying that Indian govt demanded something in return to send its cricket team to Pakistan. They were waiting for Pak govts response all these months. However, Pak govt rejected GOIs request and immidiately after that BCCI send the letter to ICC saying team India won't travel. That is why the decision came so late.

Not sure how true it is but he also gave a hint of what Indian govts demands were. Can anyone guess?
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Your first sentence answers your last. You guys are making stuff up in your heads then pronouncing them here as if they are reality.
 
The International Cricket Council (ICC) has sent the Champions Trophy from Dubai to Islamabad as Pakistan gears up to host the tournament from February 19 to March 9, 2025

Kicking off on November 16, the trophy tour will begin in Pakistan's scenic Skardu Valley, covering key cities set to host the Champions Trophy matches. The highlight of the tour will be the trophy’s symbolic stop at the K2 Base Camp before wrapping up on November 24.

However, this year’s tour has drawn attention for starting without an official tournament schedule, marking a first for the ICC. Typically, tournament schedules are announced months in advance, as seen with the recent Men's T20 and ODI World Cups.

The Champions Trophy schedule, initially set to be unveiled on November 11 in Lahore, has faced delays due to India’s hesitation to play in Pakistan. As a result, the ICC has yet to finalise and announce the match timeline, leaving fans in anticipation

tribune.com.pk

ICC Champions Trophy arrives in Pakistan | The Express Tribune

Trophy tour starts without an official schedule amid delays due to India's refusal to play in Pakistan
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adi_62941 said:
I think the Indian team’s visit to Pakistan is just one call away between Nawaz and Modi.
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Nawaz is ready and he was doing back channel diplomacy with india .

But his brother ( PM ) has different view and can't ready without Pakistan establishment support.


Indian government asked some answers from Pakistan but due to different opinion between Sharif brothers ,no progress could be made.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Your first sentence answers your last. You guys are making stuff up in your heads then pronouncing them here as if they are reality.
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Ofcourse everything is speculation now. The only official thing came out so far is BCCI wrote a letter to ICC regarding not sending the team to play in Pakistan. What you are hearing since is all media speculations from both sides but nothing official.
 
shah9425 said:
First South Africa now this guy is a clown
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Next we'll hear him hear reporting:

BCCI and GOI have proposed to host the CT at the moon. All participants will be on board Chandrayaan-2 and 3 and travel to the moon and back. Modi himself will welcome all teams and give a speech in English to launch the mega event at the South Pole of the lunar surface.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Thank you India for taking the fun out of cricket once again.

18 years ago when Pakistan was awarded the right to host the Champions Trophy, I remember being so excited to finally see an ICC tournament come to ….
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This is a lovely post, and written graciously.

However. As an Indian fan who’s been around for a very long time, let me give you another perspective. FWIW I’m liberal, and no supporter of the current Indian regime.

Every side has a story; India and Pakistan have theirs too. What the truth is, that’s debatable. No doubt that both sides are right and wrong in some ways.

That’s our history since 1947. We have and multiple incidents in the past few decades. The Kargil war of 1999, attacks on Indian Parliament in 2001, the 2019 standoff are examples.

Still, these are flashpoints. Perhaps even business as usual? Who knows.

But if you want to trace the roots of the current situation, you should know that entire generations in India have been scarred by what happened in Mumbai 2008. Anyone who was a teenager or older in that time will never forget it.

Who did 26/11, why, how - I won’t go there. But as an Indian it was traumatic to watch. It was infuriating.

I remember watching on TV what was going down in Mumbai at the time; it felt like I was on fire.

And that collective memory is part of our national psyche. And apart from it seeking deep into our consciousness, the people who watched it then as young men and women are the decision makers today. Politicians, bureaucrats, journalists, businessmen.

Look at any online discussion where India’s stance on this matter is brought up - I’ll wager that one of the first thing Indian fans bring up is 26/11.

In my opinion this “national wound” (if I can calm it that) is the reason that any government (far less a right wing one) will have to think more than twice to liberalise cricket relations with Pakistan. And few will speak up if BCCI refuse to do it.

Why don’t we do it in other fields. sports - say hockey or table tennis? You can argue it is hypocrisy, you can argue it’s realpolitik and hitting Pakistan where it hurts more.

I personally think that to change the current attitude will require an entirely new generation. Several generations in fact, who have forgotten 26/11.

In conclusion, this is not a post to argue what is right or wrong. It’s an attempt to explain why something is happening, maybe give a different perspective.
 
Giroux28 said:
Next we'll hear him hear reporting:

BCCI and GOI have proposed to host the CT at the moon. All participants will be on board Chandrayaan-2 and 3 and travel to the moon and back. Modi himself will welcome all teams and give a speech in English to launch the mega event at the South Pole of the lunar surface.
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hahaha, it’s not too far off from from what the Indian media will spout next. Btw, like the shoutout to Claude!
 
Giroux28 said:
Vikrant Gupta from Sports Tak now reporting that India has proposed to host the CT25 between March - April should Pakistan choose to boycott the event.
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Who is vikrant gupta no body here really cares what he has to say
 
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Rajdeep said:
Ofcourse everything is speculation now. The only official thing came out so far is BCCI wrote a letter to ICC regarding not sending the team to play in Pakistan. What you are hearing since is all media speculations from both sides but nothing official.
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I think mainly for the indian side I don't think anything really cares at the moment from pakistan side and everyone is waiting for reliable information from PCB ICC and BCCI
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
This is a lovely post, and written graciously.

However. As an Indian fan who’s been around for a very long time, let me give you another perspective. FWIW I’m liberal, and no supporter of the current Indian regime.

Every side has a story; India and Pakistan have theirs too. What the truth is, that’s debatable. No doubt that both sides are right and wrong in some ways.

That’s our history since 1947. We have and multiple incidents in the past few decades. The Kargil war of 1999, attacks on Indian Parliament in 2001, the 2019 standoff are examples.

Still, these are flashpoints. Perhaps even business as usual? Who knows.

But if you want to trace the roots of the current situation, you should know that entire generations in India have been scarred by what happened in Mumbai 2008. Anyone who was a teenager or older in that time will never forget it.

Who did 26/11, why, how - I won’t go there. But as an Indian it was traumatic to watch. It was infuriating.

I remember watching on TV what was going down in Mumbai at the time; it felt like I was on fire.

And that collective memory is part of our national psyche. And apart from it seeking deep into our consciousness, the people who watched it then as young men and women are the decision makers today. Politicians, bureaucrats, journalists, businessmen.

Look at any online discussion where India’s stance on this matter is brought up - I’ll wager that one of the first thing Indian fans bring up is 26/11.

In my opinion this “national wound” (if I can calm it that) is the reason that any government (far less a right wing one) will have to think more than twice to liberalise cricket relations with Pakistan. And few will speak up if BCCI refuse to do it.

Why don’t we do it in other fields. sports - say hockey or table tennis? You can argue it is hypocrisy, you can argue it’s realpolitik and hitting Pakistan where it hurts more.

I personally think that to change the current attitude will require an entirely new generation. Several generations in fact, who have forgotten 26/11.

In conclusion, this is not a post to argue what is right or wrong. It’s an attempt to explain why something is happening, maybe give a different perspective.
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I totally understand your stance but why does this not apply to when india plays pakistan on neutral grounds? Or heck india even allowed pakistanis in Mumbai to play cricket

If someone came from india and did what happened in Mumbai in lahore I wouldn't want them to set a foot in my country

No disrespect to the victims of the Mumbai attacks but your government is making a mockery out of them

Indian government can send tennis teams to Pakistan but not cricket team
 
emranabbas said:
I totally understand your stance but why does this not apply to when india plays pakistan on neutral grounds? Or heck india even allowed pakistanis in Mumbai to play cricket

If someone came from india and did what happened in Mumbai in lahore I wouldn't want them to set a foot in my country

No disrespect to the victims of the Mumbai attacks but your government is making a mockery out of them

Indian government can send tennis teams to Pakistan but not cricket team
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I had tried to address that on my post.

It could be Hypocrisy on our part or a desire to hit Pakistan where it hurts more.

It could be Balanced retaliation or a passive aggressive response.

The possibilities are endless. Take your pick. I won’t argue it.

I was just giving context.

Whether it’s right or wrong, well that’s another debate in another thread
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
This is a lovely post, and written graciously.

However. As an Indian fan who’s been around for a very long time, let me give you another perspective. FWIW I’m liberal, and no supporter of the current Indian regime.

Every side has a story; India and Pakistan have theirs too. What the truth is, that’s debatable. No doubt that both sides are right and wrong in some ways.

That’s our history since 1947. We have and multiple incidents in the past few decades. The Kargil war of 1999, attacks on Indian Parliament in 2001, the 2019 standoff are examples.

Still, these are flashpoints. Perhaps even business as usual? Who knows.

But if you want to trace the roots of the current situation, you should know that entire generations in India have been scarred by what happened in Mumbai 2008. Anyone who was a teenager or older in that time will never forget it.

Who did 26/11, why, how - I won’t go there. But as an Indian it was traumatic to watch. It was infuriating.

I remember watching on TV what was going down in Mumbai at the time; it felt like I was on fire.

And that collective memory is part of our national psyche. And apart from it seeking deep into our consciousness, the people who watched it then as young men and women are the decision makers today. Politicians, bureaucrats, journalists, businessmen.

Look at any online discussion where India’s stance on this matter is brought up - I’ll wager that one of the first thing Indian fans bring up is 26/11.

In my opinion this “national wound” (if I can calm it that) is the reason that any government (far less a right wing one) will have to think more than twice to liberalise cricket relations with Pakistan. And few will speak up if BCCI refuse to do it.

Why don’t we do it in other fields. sports - say hockey or table tennis? You can argue it is hypocrisy, you can argue it’s realpolitik and hitting Pakistan where it hurts more.

I personally think that to change the current attitude will require an entirely new generation. Several generations in fact, who have forgotten 26/11.

In conclusion, this is not a post to argue what is right or wrong. It’s an attempt to explain why something is happening, maybe give a different perspective.
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I appreciate your post. And I appreciate your attempt to explain the Indian perspective. I would say that I can definitely understand to a great degree, the anger that still exists among the Indian people for the tragic events of 26/11. I just hope that one day we can move forward and not continue to deprive our people of the immense joy that this sport can bring into all our lives if both boards resumed bilateral relations.
 
cricketjoshila said:
No India hasn't signed. India has objected since 2022


Can you post a source for the numbers you posted about the T20WC?

Participation in a tournament or visiting a country is dependent on government permission. But government cannot decide which match to play which not to play.
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It was signed by the all the boards in October 2021.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
This is a lovely post, and written graciously.

However. As an Indian fan who’s been around for a very long time, let me give you another perspective. FWIW I’m liberal, and no supporter of the current Indian regime.

Every side has a story; India and Pakistan have theirs too. What the truth is, that’s debatable. No doubt that both sides are right and wrong in some ways.

That’s our history since 1947. We have and multiple incidents in the past few decades. The Kargil war of 1999, attacks on Indian Parliament in 2001, the 2019 standoff are examples.

Still, these are flashpoints. Perhaps even business as usual? Who knows.

But if you want to trace the roots of the current situation, you should know that entire generations in India have been scarred by what happened in Mumbai 2008. Anyone who was a teenager or older in that time will never forget it.

Who did 26/11, why, how - I won’t go there. But as an Indian it was traumatic to watch. It was infuriating.

I remember watching on TV what was going down in Mumbai at the time; it felt like I was on fire.

And that collective memory is part of our national psyche. And apart from it seeking deep into our consciousness, the people who watched it then as young men and women are the decision makers today. Politicians, bureaucrats, journalists, businessmen.

Look at any online discussion where India’s stance on this matter is brought up - I’ll wager that one of the first thing Indian fans bring up is 26/11.

In my opinion this “national wound” (if I can calm it that) is the reason that any government (far less a right wing one) will have to think more than twice to liberalise cricket relations with Pakistan. And few will speak up if BCCI refuse to do it.

Why don’t we do it in other fields. sports - say hockey or table tennis? You can argue it is hypocrisy, you can argue it’s realpolitik and hitting Pakistan where it hurts more.

I personally think that to change the current attitude will require an entirely new generation. Several generations in fact, who have forgotten 26/11.

In conclusion, this is not a post to argue what is right or wrong. It’s an attempt to explain why something is happening, maybe give a different perspective.
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Going by this logic, India has been involved (and is proved many times) in destabilization in Pakistan and funding many militant groups operating in Pakistan. There should be total boycott for any link/relation/sports between both countries.

Pakistan has lost more lives than any other country in the world to terrorism.

Atm it's all about dirty politics and has absolutely nothing to do with sentiments. India should not come to Pakistan and next in line should be included on the other hand Pak should not visit India next year for Asia Cup or any upcoming cricket tournament.
 
As per reports:

BCCI's response to the ICC will emphasize concerns over the safety of Indian cricket team players in Pakistan. The dossier accompanying the BCCI's reply highlights fears of terrorist activities and cross-border terrorism, citing Indian players as potential high-value targets. Despite the support from local fans, the risk of terrorist attacks remains, similar to the 2009 incident involving the Sri Lanka team in Pakistan. The dossier will also reference terrorism incidents in Pakistan over the past year.

Both the PCB and the BCCI are firm on their stances, leaving the ICC with three potential solutions:

  1. Persuade the PCB to accept the BCCI's hybrid model proposal, playing five out of fifteen tournament games in the UAE.
  2. Relocate the Champions Trophy entirely from Pakistan, risking the PCB withdrawing from the tournament.
  3. Postpone the Champions Trophy indefinitely, which could significantly impact the revenues of both the ICC and the PCB, potentially costing them millions from the tournament.
The ICC is tasked with resolving this complex issue, considering the substantial financial implications involved.
 
As per reports:

During last month’s ICC Board meeting in Dubai, held alongside the ICC Women's T20 World Cup, no country, including India, expressed any concerns about the proposed schedule for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan, sources told Geo News.

According to minutes from the meeting, the schedule, which was also approved by ICC broadcasters, was shared with all participating teams, and no objections were raised.

“A match schedule has been developed in collaboration with the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB). The 15 matches are to be hosted across three venues in Pakistan: Rawalpindi, Lahore, and Karachi.

“The match schedule has been approved by ICC's main broadcast partner, Star, and each participating team has received a copy of their schedule for the event. No member has raised any concerns with the schedule as circulated,” it stated.

A source in Islamabad, familiar with the matter, suggested that India’s recent verbal communication to the ICC about its inability to travel to Pakistan may indicate "mala fide intentions" aimed at creating disruption ahead of the Champions Trophy.

“There was no discussion of such concerns during the ICC Board meeting, which is the appropriate forum to address such matters. Yet, just as Pakistan was set to host an event marking 100 days to the tournament, the BCCI informed the ICC of its position verbally,” the source said.

The source also confirmed that a high-profile event was planned for November 11 to unveil the match schedule, event identity, and trophy tour.

During the October board meeting, the PCB provided updates on the progress of development work at the three venues. Additionally, the ICC green-lighted the PCB to host an international testing event at all three venues before the Champions Trophy, which the PCB planned to hold in January.

Before the October meeting, the PCB and ICC had jointly briefed security managers from all participating teams on the tournament's master security plan, with no objections raised at any stage.

The PCB is currently awaiting a response from the ICC to a questionnaire sent two days ago, following India’s verbal communication to the ICC about its inability to travel to Pakistan.

“The delay in ICC’s reply suggests there is no written communication from the BCCI. If such a document existed, it would have been shared with the PCB by now. It has been two days since the PCB wrote to the ICC,” the source noted.

“Pakistan was announced as the host of the Champions Trophy long ago, and the host agreement was signed in December 2023. Why didn’t the BCCI consult its government about traveling to Pakistan when the event was announced? Why wait until the last minute?” the source questioned.

With less than 100 days remaining until the ICC Champions Trophy, the uncertainty surrounding the schedule is frustrating cricket fans globally and affecting stakeholders with commercial interests tied to the tournament.

“A lot of branding and brand activation activities are currently on hold due to this uncertainty,” another source said.

The final schedule, though already shared with participating teams and broadcasters, for the Champions Trophy 2025 is yet to be officially announced.
 
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BouncerGuy said:
As per reports:

BCCI's response to the ICC will emphasize concerns over the safety of Indian cricket team players in Pakistan. The dossier accompanying the BCCI's reply highlights fears of terrorist activities and cross-border terrorism, citing Indian players as potential high-value targets. Despite the support from local fans, the risk of terrorist attacks remains, similar to the 2009 incident involving the Sri Lanka team in Pakistan. The dossier will also reference terrorism incidents in Pakistan over the past year.

Both the PCB and the BCCI are firm on their stances, leaving the ICC with three potential solutions:

  1. Persuade the PCB to accept the BCCI's hybrid model proposal, playing five out of fifteen tournament games in the UAE.
  2. Relocate the Champions Trophy entirely from Pakistan, risking the PCB withdrawing from the tournament.
  3. Postpone the Champions Trophy indefinitely, which could significantly impact the revenues of both the ICC and the PCB, potentially costing them millions from the tournament.
The ICC is tasked with resolving this complex issue, considering the substantial financial implications involved.
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By this logic India and Israel need to be banned from any sorts of sports for doing atrocities all over the World including recent Bangladesh students massacre, Palestine lives,......... Mass murderer Modi needs to be arrested for supporting another murderer Hasina.
People supporting Modi and talk about terrorism are the biggest hypocrite.
 
Shafi said:
By this logic India and Israel need to be banned from any sorts of sports for doing atrocities all over the World including recent Bangladesh students massacre, Palestine lives,......... Mass murderer Modi needs to be arrested for supporting another murderer Hasina.
People supporting Modi and talk about terrorism are the biggest hypocrite.
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Start by banning Indian team from Pakistan.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
This is a lovely post, and written graciously.

However. As an Indian fan who’s been around for a very long time, let me give you another perspective. FWIW I’m liberal, and no supporter of the current Indian regime.

Every side has a story; India and Pakistan have theirs too. What the truth is, that’s debatable. No doubt that both sides are right and wrong in some ways.

That’s our history since 1947. We have and multiple incidents in the past few decades. The Kargil war of 1999, attacks on Indian Parliament in 2001, the 2019 standoff are examples.

Still, these are flashpoints. Perhaps even business as usual? Who knows.

But if you want to trace the roots of the current situation, you should know that entire generations in India have been scarred by what happened in Mumbai 2008. Anyone who was a teenager or older in that time will never forget it.

Who did 26/11, why, how - I won’t go there. But as an Indian it was traumatic to watch. It was infuriating.

I remember watching on TV what was going down in Mumbai at the time; it felt like I was on fire.

And that collective memory is part of our national psyche. And apart from it seeking deep into our consciousness, the people who watched it then as young men and women are the decision makers today. Politicians, bureaucrats, journalists, businessmen.

Look at any online discussion where India’s stance on this matter is brought up - I’ll wager that one of the first thing Indian fans bring up is 26/11.

In my opinion this “national wound” (if I can calm it that) is the reason that any government (far less a right wing one) will have to think more than twice to liberalise cricket relations with Pakistan. And few will speak up if BCCI refuse to do it.

Why don’t we do it in other fields. sports - say hockey or table tennis? You can argue it is hypocrisy, you can argue it’s realpolitik and hitting Pakistan where it hurts more.

I personally think that to change the current attitude will require an entirely new generation. Several generations in fact, who have forgotten 26/11.

In conclusion, this is not a post to argue what is right or wrong. It’s an attempt to explain why something is happening, maybe give a different perspective.
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I completely understand. I can only hope the culprits of 26/11 are brought to justice.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Thank you India for taking the fun out of cricket once again.

18 years ago when Pakistan was awarded the right to host the Champions Trophy, I remember being so excited to finally see an ICC tournament come to Pakistan. I was a very young fan back then who hadn't seen a single cricket match live in the stadium. I even remember seeing the schedule for the matches in the newspaper back in 2008. Even back then Karachi, Lahore and my hometown of Rawalpindi were the cities hosting the tournament. Then because of Pakistan's unfortunate security situation the tournament had to be moved out of Pakistan. But 13 years later, Pakistan was finally awarded the right to host the Champions Trophy again. After years of political, economic and social turmoil, Pakistan was finally given the go-ahead to host a major ICC tournament. As a Pakistan cricket fan it was a great moment because in many ways, it represented the progress this nation had made after some really dark years that saw us experience alot of tragedy and heartache. It was 2021 though and I wasn't the same naive fan now that I was back in 2008 or 2006. And the cynical side in me knew that one country would try their best to ruin this experience for our fans. And lo and behold that is exactly what happened.

I know Indian fans cannot relate to this feeling because they have seen their country host World Cups multiple times during this time. For them international cricket is a fact of life and something even some of their smaller cities get to experience fairly regularly. But for our fans and our country, this tournament was a major thing. But now thanks solely to your government that experience will be ruined for us. So I just hope that you take a moment to think about that before you bend over backwards to defend/tow the line for your far-right Hindu nationalist government.
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Bhai

If PCB can convince ICC, i as a Indian fan will not be complaining if CT is held without India.
 

ICC Champions Trophy Row: Pakistan Provokes India, Cricket Board Announces Trophy Tour In PoK​


The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has said it will conduct a tour with the Champions Trophy across the country, an announcement that has raised eyebrows for the inclusion of areas in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) on the list of destinations.

The announcement came in the backdrop of a big controversy, with BCCI making it clear that the Indian team will not travel to the neighbouring country due to strained ties and security concerns. Pakistan hold the hosting rights for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025.

“Get ready, Pakistan. The ICC Champions Trophy 2025 trophy tour kicks off in Islamabad on 16 November, also visiting scenic travel destinations like Skardu, Murree, Hunza and Muzaffarabad", a post by PCB said on Thursday.

Why This Is Provocation From Pakistan​


What stood out in its social media messaging was the specific mention of Skardu, Hunza and Muzaffarabad, all of which are in PoK, a disputed region India claims as its own.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI)’s refusal to play in Pakistan has irked PCB, which is currently run by Mohsin Raza Naqvi, who is also a federal minister.

The cold war has roiled the International Cricket Council (ICC)—and there have been reports that it is considering several formulas for avoiding a situation where the tournament is played without world cricket powerhouse India. A hybrid model where India play matches in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) has been in the news. So, have speculations over a complete change of venue and an indefinite postponement of the tournament. PCB, however, wants to go ahead without India. ICC, the world cricket governing, have yet to speak on the final venue.

The glittering trophy, meanwhile, has reached Islamabad from Dubai. The move to use PoK for provocation is from an old Pakistan playbook. It routinely invites foreign dignitaries for trips to PoK, a ploy that has drawn sharp Indian rebuttals time and again.

Earlier, the global cricketing body cancelled a major event marking the 100-day countdown to the Champions Trophy, that was supposed to be announced on November 11 in Lahore, owing to the hiccups they have encountered in scheduling, especially India games.

www.news18.com

Pakistan Board's Plan For Champions Trophy's PoK Tour Draws India's Flak, ICC Snub: Reports - News18

BCCI secretary Jay Shah objected to Pakistan Cricket Board's move to take the Champions Trophy for a tour of the disputed PoK
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FearlessRoar said:

ICC Champions Trophy Row: Pakistan Provokes India, Cricket Board Announces Trophy Tour In PoK​


The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has said it will conduct a tour with the Champions Trophy across the country, an announcement that has raised eyebrows for the inclusion of areas in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) on the list of destinations.

The announcement came in the backdrop of a big controversy, with BCCI making it clear that the Indian team will not travel to the neighbouring country due to strained ties and security concerns. Pakistan hold the hosting rights for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025.

“Get ready, Pakistan. The ICC Champions Trophy 2025 trophy tour kicks off in Islamabad on 16 November, also visiting scenic travel destinations like Skardu, Murree, Hunza and Muzaffarabad", a post by PCB said on Thursday.

Why This Is Provocation From Pakistan​


What stood out in its social media messaging was the specific mention of Skardu, Hunza and Muzaffarabad, all of which are in PoK, a disputed region India claims as its own.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI)’s refusal to play in Pakistan has irked PCB, which is currently run by Mohsin Raza Naqvi, who is also a federal minister.

The cold war has roiled the International Cricket Council (ICC)—and there have been reports that it is considering several formulas for avoiding a situation where the tournament is played without world cricket powerhouse India. A hybrid model where India play matches in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) has been in the news. So, have speculations over a complete change of venue and an indefinite postponement of the tournament. PCB, however, wants to go ahead without India. ICC, the world cricket governing, have yet to speak on the final venue.

The glittering trophy, meanwhile, has reached Islamabad from Dubai. The move to use PoK for provocation is from an old Pakistan playbook. It routinely invites foreign dignitaries for trips to PoK, a ploy that has drawn sharp Indian rebuttals time and again.

Earlier, the global cricketing body cancelled a major event marking the 100-day countdown to the Champions Trophy, that was supposed to be announced on November 11 in Lahore, owing to the hiccups they have encountered in scheduling, especially India games.

www.news18.com

Pakistan Board's Plan For Champions Trophy's PoK Tour Draws India's Flak, ICC Snub: Reports - News18

BCCI secretary Jay Shah objected to Pakistan Cricket Board's move to take the Champions Trophy for a tour of the disputed PoK
www.news18.com www.news18.com
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Let's see if ICC allows this.
 
FearlessRoar said:

ICC Champions Trophy Row: Pakistan Provokes India, Cricket Board Announces Trophy Tour In PoK​


The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has said it will conduct a tour with the Champions Trophy across the country, an announcement that has raised eyebrows for the inclusion of areas in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) on the list of destinations.

The announcement came in the backdrop of a big controversy, with BCCI making it clear that the Indian team will not travel to the neighbouring country due to strained ties and security concerns. Pakistan hold the hosting rights for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025.

“Get ready, Pakistan. The ICC Champions Trophy 2025 trophy tour kicks off in Islamabad on 16 November, also visiting scenic travel destinations like Skardu, Murree, Hunza and Muzaffarabad", a post by PCB said on Thursday.

Why This Is Provocation From Pakistan​


What stood out in its social media messaging was the specific mention of Skardu, Hunza and Muzaffarabad, all of which are in PoK, a disputed region India claims as its own.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI)’s refusal to play in Pakistan has irked PCB, which is currently run by Mohsin Raza Naqvi, who is also a federal minister.

The cold war has roiled the International Cricket Council (ICC)—and there have been reports that it is considering several formulas for avoiding a situation where the tournament is played without world cricket powerhouse India. A hybrid model where India play matches in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) has been in the news. So, have speculations over a complete change of venue and an indefinite postponement of the tournament. PCB, however, wants to go ahead without India. ICC, the world cricket governing, have yet to speak on the final venue.

The glittering trophy, meanwhile, has reached Islamabad from Dubai. The move to use PoK for provocation is from an old Pakistan playbook. It routinely invites foreign dignitaries for trips to PoK, a ploy that has drawn sharp Indian rebuttals time and again.

Earlier, the global cricketing body cancelled a major event marking the 100-day countdown to the Champions Trophy, that was supposed to be announced on November 11 in Lahore, owing to the hiccups they have encountered in scheduling, especially India games.

www.news18.com

Pakistan Board's Plan For Champions Trophy's PoK Tour Draws India's Flak, ICC Snub: Reports - News18

BCCI secretary Jay Shah objected to Pakistan Cricket Board's move to take the Champions Trophy for a tour of the disputed PoK
www.news18.com www.news18.com
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ICC cancels Champions Trophy tour in 3 cities in POK day after Pak board's announcement​


The International Cricket Council (ICC) has cancelled the tour of the Champions Trophy in the in cities Skardu, Hunza and Mazafarabad which fall in the territory of Pakistan occupied Kashmir (POK). Notably, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had announced a nationwide trophy tour of the Champions Trophy from November 16 to 24.

The eight-team tournament is set to be held in Pakistan in February-March 2025 and to build up for the cricketing extravaganza, the PCB had organized the trophy tour. However, India Today has learnt that the trophy tour has been cancelled in the cities falling under the disputed land of the Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK).

www.indiatoday.in

BCCI flags Pak board's plan to host Champions Trophy tour in POK: Sources

The Indian cricket board has raised its concerns with the International Cricket Council over Pakistan's plan to host the Champions Trophy tour in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK). ICC sources have told India Today that it would announce plans for the trophy tour soon.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in
 
FearlessRoar said:

ICC cancels Champions Trophy tour in 3 cities in POK day after Pak board's announcement​


The International Cricket Council (ICC) has cancelled the tour of the Champions Trophy in the in cities Skardu, Hunza and Mazafarabad which fall in the territory of Pakistan occupied Kashmir (POK). Notably, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had announced a nationwide trophy tour of the Champions Trophy from November 16 to 24.

The eight-team tournament is set to be held in Pakistan in February-March 2025 and to build up for the cricketing extravaganza, the PCB had organized the trophy tour. However, India Today has learnt that the trophy tour has been cancelled in the cities falling under the disputed land of the Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK).

www.indiatoday.in

BCCI flags Pak board's plan to host Champions Trophy tour in POK: Sources

The Indian cricket board has raised its concerns with the International Cricket Council over Pakistan's plan to host the Champions Trophy tour in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK). ICC sources have told India Today that it would announce plans for the trophy tour soon.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in
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Now this is the all the positive vibes PCB wanted India to come to India. :ROFLMAO: . "Don't mix poltics with Sports" Waah ji
 
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Local.Dada said:
Since BCCi took over ICC and made boards like ECB its stooges.
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This is close enough to the reality, no arguments there. But of course ICC won't ACTUALLY use such terminology to describe Pakistani territory, so that is really poor source to be quoting from. Should have waited for the actual statement from the ICC to give it the veneer of professionalism.
 
BCCI and Indian govt are even big jokers than Pakistan govt . Why can’t Pakistan do a trophy tour in POK . Why India ddint do a WC tour in Srinagar ? No one stopped them . India just needs an excuse to politicize the issue . Stooping to new lows day by day .
 
Asif321 said:
BCCI and Indian govt are even big jokers than Pakistan govt . Why can’t Pakistan do a trophy tour in POK . Why India ddint do a WC tour in Srinagar ? No one stopped them . India just needs an excuse to politicize the issue . Stooping to new lows day by day .
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India is like that insecure phupo

You know those Asian ladies who like to cause trouble and seek attention

India is so feminine about time they grow some and be a man and come face to face
 
As per reports:

The International Cricket Council (ICC) has requested a written explanation from the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) regarding their decision to skip the 2025 Champions Trophy in Pakistan. This comes after the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) sought a written copy of India's official stance from the ICC. The BCCI must provide solid reasons for not traveling to Pakistan for the tournament, scheduled for February 2025.

The BCCI informed the ICC that they won't be sending their team to Pakistan due to government advice. The PCB has received an official email from the ICC, stating the BCCI's refusal to travel to Pakistan. The PCB has forwarded the ICC's correspondence to the Government of Pakistan for further advice and guidance on how to proceed.

The ICC will assess the BCCI's reasons before making a final decision. If the reasons are deemed unsatisfactory, the ICC might enforce India's participation in the tournament. The Champions Trophy will feature eight teams, including Afghanistan, Australia, Bangladesh, England, India, New Zealand, Pakistan, and South Africa.
 
FearlessRoar said:

ICC cancels Champions Trophy tour in 3 cities in POK day after Pak board's announcement​


The International Cricket Council (ICC) has cancelled the tour of the Champions Trophy in the in cities Skardu, Hunza and Mazafarabad which fall in the territory of Pakistan occupied Kashmir (POK). Notably, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had announced a nationwide trophy tour of the Champions Trophy from November 16 to 24.

The eight-team tournament is set to be held in Pakistan in February-March 2025 and to build up for the cricketing extravaganza, the PCB had organized the trophy tour. However, India Today has learnt that the trophy tour has been cancelled in the cities falling under the disputed land of the Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK).

www.indiatoday.in

BCCI flags Pak board's plan to host Champions Trophy tour in POK: Sources

The Indian cricket board has raised its concerns with the International Cricket Council over Pakistan's plan to host the Champions Trophy tour in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK). ICC sources have told India Today that it would announce plans for the trophy tour soon.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in
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where did icc announce this? on
social media? any source of the news other than Indian media reports?
 
Its so Funny to think that India being Economically and Militarily a superior country and they cant take back their claimed territories by fighting an actual war so much they have to give Pakistan befitting replies through BCCI and ICC 😂😂😂
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Its so Funny to think that India being Economically and Militarily a superior country and they cant take back their claimed territories by fighting an actual war so much they have to give Pakistan befitting replies through BCCI and ICC 😂😂😂
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This is Pakistan at its absolute weakest and India still has more poverty :ROFLMAO:

Imagine when Pakistan goes back to baseline and starts heading up. Only a matter of time.
 
emranabbas said:
Yes when india was begging pakistan to visit India to play World Cup and in return they will visit pakistan for series which they did not
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PCB acted smart during IPl 2009 and they thought not sending Pak players would effect the tournament, result: IPl is only growing year on year. Pak is a very good team and a valuable competition in a sport played by a few teams but you overestimate them lol, till a couple of months back they had issues paying contract money to players for what it’s worth.
 
Local.Dada said:
What is your alternative source? The ever reliable Pakistani media? Ok.
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Its only the Indians who are desperate and hyped in this matter heck seems like whole of India have shifted to pakistani forums that's hoe desperate India is right now
 
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Local.Dada said:
PCB acted smart during IPl 2009 and they thought not sending Pak players would effect the tournament, result: IPl is only growing year on year. Pak is a very good team and a valuable competition in a sport played by a few teams but you overestimate them lol, till a couple of months back they had issues paying contract money to players for what it’s worth.
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We don't really care about ipl it's only you lot that are hyping it nobody here in Pakistan care and we dint regret it either
 
emranabbas said:
Its only the Indians who are desperate and hyped in this matter heck seems like whole of India have shifted to pakistani forums that's hoe desperate India is right now
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let me put it this way- if there are 2 sources Indian media and Pak media- I know my pick and so will any person with an iota of brain .
 
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Rajdeep said:
Rather than blaming Indian media, why don't you ask Pak media to actually post the images of Champions trophy tour in POK? If they can, that will be prove everything.

I highly doubt any media organization will cook up story like ICC banned trophy tour. They may add some mirch masala but overall news is correct.

Also Pak fought 4 wars with India to take over Kashmir and lost all of them. Knowing they cant beat India in customary war, they resort to terrorism.
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I did nt blame Indian Media. I just asked where did icc make such announcement? because PCB did on their social media about the tour and that its 16th Nov. 16th Nov is not here yet. Indian Media is reporting that icc has cancelled it without giving any source. who is adding mirch Masala?

At least we tried. what did India do to take back supposedly the POK? other than making movies and coercing ICC? 😂

Hunza and Skardu are not militarized zones. it has relative peace. why so much of Indian Army is deployed at Indian side of Kashmir? why?
 
Rajdeep said:
Rather than blaming Indian media, why don't you ask Pak media to actually post the images of Champions trophy tour in POK? If they can, that will be prove everything.

I highly doubt any media organization will cook up story like ICC banned trophy tour. They may add some mirch masala but overall news is correct.

Also Pak fought 4 wars with India to take over Kashmir and lost all of them. Knowing they cant beat India in customary war, they resort to terrorism.
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No one is blaming Indian media. If they want to present news of cricket tournaments like it is some act of war over disputed territory, whatever floats the boat. But we are looking for actual news here.
 
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RidiculousMan said:
This all propaganda by Indian media. They purposefully write this stuff to gaslight and make public's perception about the event
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why is there so much short term memory here- some of you were saying the same thing about Asia Cup and WC 2023. What happened in the end? I think Indian media got it right then over Pak media?
 
Best bet for Pakistan is to stick with their stance and have a firm policy in place that no game against India if CT25 will not happen completely in Pakistan.

Without India v Pakistan game the broadcaster will be under the pump cause they had signed to pay $3 Billion. They will call ICC and ICC will simply tell all the boards they can't pay money. BCCI will not have any problem cause they are rich. CA, ECB and PCB will also survive but it's the rest of boards that will get shockwaves from this. The stockholders will be on to have the India v Pakistan game happen cause this will not only stay like this for one event. Potentially Pakistan can refuse to then play India or in India for future ICC Tournaments.
 
Local.Dada said:
why is there so much short term memory here- some of you were saying the same thing about Asia Cup and WC 2023. What happened in the end? I think Indian media got it right then over Pak media?
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Since when Skardu, Hunza and Mazafarabad have been started to refer as POK?

This is like me saying Delhi is in Indian Occupied Pakistani land
 
RidiculousMan said:
Since when Skardu, Hunza and Mazafarabad have been started to refer as POK?

This is like me saying Delhi is in Indian Occupied Pakistani land
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Is it the word you are upset with? POK or “Azaad” Kashmir whatever you want to call it is a disputed territory and its clearly done to provoke India which is already citing diplomatic reasons to not travel.

You need to ask who are the geniuses running PCB?

I will apologize on behalf of BCCI if “pok” is the deal breaker here but again you guys are focusing on the wrong thing yet again.

If PCB really wanted Indian team to travel, the reach out should have happened during WT20 in USA when both Jay Shah and PCB chairman were there.
 
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