[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

[Mesozoic]

Lol exactly. And this is always case with them .

PCB is begging not BCCI .
just two more days to clear all things after that all The Delusion posters will get back to reality .

Well the big reason behind all the emotional vitriol and fanfictions being posted here on this thread is because somewhere deep inside their heads, everyone here knows how this episode is gonna end eventually. They're just venting our their frustrations in advance which is sad to be honest.

I just hope that the Indian team doesn't humiliate Pakistan in Dubai like they did in Colombo or even at the Modi stadium last year. Poor lads here are gonna have serious brain trauma.

 

[HalBass9]

Goi and BCCI are looking towards interests of Indians. If that means throwing their weight around, where they can afford to, so be it. It is the PCB and pp’ers crying about it. PCB started it, BCCI is just learning the tricks. Man up and take it on the chin.

Nope. You are confusing calling out both BCCI and PCB with crying.

But India is acting like if one were to believe Indian’s reason not to engage Pakistan when they selectively play Pakistan.

 

[nuttyprof]

Nope. You are confusing calling out both BCCI and PCB with crying.

But India is acting like if one were to believe Indian’s reason not to engage Pakistan when they selectively play Pakistan.

India is shameless when it comes to it’s interests like all the countries in the world. Like Pak was at one point, only difference is Pak cannot afford to right now.
OTOH Pakistan media and cricketers either upset or begging India to visit Pakistan despite BCCI rubbing their face in sand. That is what I call lack of self respect.

 

[Shafi]

The Indian Blind Cricket team withdrew from world cup being held in Pakistan. There was no hybrid model to accommodate them.

So why is ICC/BCCI trying to shift the tournament to a hybrid model? Just withdraw from the Champions Trophy if you can't get "clearance" to play in Pakistan just like the Blind team. Precedent has been set.

Most of the Indians are hypocrite. They don't care their blind players as they are no where rich like Indian national team players. Their life or future doesn't matter.

 

[HalBass9]

India is shameless when it comes to it’s interests like all the countries in the world. Like Pak was at one point, only difference is Pak cannot afford to right now.
OTOH Pakistan media and cricketers either upset or begging India to visit Pakistan despite BCCI rubbing their face in sand. That is what I call lack of self respect

Maybe Pak is saying, it’s cricket and let’s play cricket.

If Pak refuses to play their matches outside of Pak then I guess only India will remain shameless.

 

[Hikaru]

Lol exactly. And this is always case with them .

PCB is begging not BCCI .
just two more days to clear all things after that all The Delusion posters will get back to reality .

The realisation will lead to expected emotional outbursts and several more alternate timelines.

Let them play Dr. Strange and mark it as a victory.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol exactly. And this is always case with them .

PCB is begging not BCCI .
just two more days to clear all things after that all The Delusion posters will get back to reality .

With nearly $2.5bn USD in reserves and 100s of millions in surplus from IPL and other revenues, BCCI can easily afford to let go off part of its ICC revenues.

But 50 per cent of PCBs revenue comes from ICC revenues.

How long can PCB afford loss of ICC revenues?

Najam Sethi said something similar and he is a former PCB chairman.

No amount of troll posts will change the above reality. Just like how the same troll claimed Indian economy was drowning and Pakistan was rising. May be he should have told IMF.

 

[Shafi]

With nearly $2.5bn USD in reserves and 100s of millions in surplus from IPL and other revenues, BCCI can easily afford to let go off part of its ICC revenues.

But 50 per cent of PCBs revenue comes from ICC revenues.

How long can PCB afford loss of ICC revenues?

Najam Sethi said something similar and he is a former PCB chairman.

No amount of troll posts will change the above reality. Just like how the same troll claimed Indian economy was drowning and Pakistan was rising. May be he should have told IMF.

If a person is honest they don't care about illegal money. Neither of Sethi, Naqvi are honest to resist just like most Indian fans. You can buy people like these any time.

 

[nuttyprof]

Maybe Pak is saying, it’s cricket and let’s play cricket.

If Pak refuses to play their matches outside of Pak then I guess only India will remain shameless.

Pak only started saying once their economy (cricket and national) started tanking and Indian gravy train stopped.
If Pak refuses to travel to India, majority would be glad. Atleast I would be glad. You see Indian cricket is not dependent on ICC for handouts!!

 

[nuttyprof]

Come on as if India is like Switzerland? If every country sends back India workers you will see how your master Modi can handle.

India is not Switzerland, far from it yet. It is a self respecting country. it doesn’t rely on IMF for handouts, or BCCI doesn’t rely on ICC for >50% revenue. India has taken body blows to get its economy going and the gravy train for her adversary needs to stop.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If a person is honest they don't care about illegal money. Neither of Sethi, Naqvi are honest to resist just like most Indian fans. You can buy people like these any time.

What illegal money?

What PCB earns goes into Pakistan cricket.

 

[BouncerGuy]

STAY ON TOPIC OR PLEASE LEAVE THE THREADS FOR OTHER

 

[emranabbas]

India is shameless when it comes to it’s interests like all the countries in the world. Like Pak was at one point, only difference is Pak cannot afford to right now.
OTOH Pakistan media and cricketers either upset or begging India to visit Pakistan despite BCCI rubbing their face in sand. That is what I call lack of self respect.

Only people upset are the Indians, Jay Shah still begging for a hybrid model

 

[HalBass9]

Pak only started saying once their economy (cricket and national) started tanking and Indian gravy train stopped.
If Pak refuses to travel to India, majority would be glad. Atleast I would be glad. You see Indian cricket is not dependent on ICC for handouts!!

India hasn’t visited Pakistan, yet Pakistani cricket has survived and will continue to survive.

It’s up to India to sever all ties with Pakistan, but it seems the principles of the BCCI and BJP are outweighed by the money they earn when India plays against Pakistan in other words, shameless , a special kind one, because it’s not like BCCI and BJP in need of that money.

I feel sorry for people like yourself who are standing up for their principles but yet your government refused to hear you.

 

[HalBass9]

STAY ON TOPIC OR PLEASE LEAVE THE THREADS FOR OTHER

I’m sorry, Indian stance is political, you can’t not have discussion excluding politics from it.

 

[nuttyprof]

India hasn’t visited Pakistan, yet Pakistani cricket has survived and will continue to survive.

PCB receives handouts from ICC. To paraphrase Rameez Raja, BCCI can shut down PCB.

It’s up to India to sever all ties with Pakistan, but it seems the principles of the BCCI and BJP are outweighed by the money they earn when India plays against Pakistan in other words, shameless , a special kind one, because it’s not like BCCI and BJP in need of that money.

It is not about money. Pak games are small potatoes when compared to overall revenue. Just that India lacks the self confidence to assert itself. You see India never at the power up until now.

I feel sorry for people like yourself who are standing up for their principles but yet your government refused to hear you.

I am not standing up for my government, but hate it that they are not using full force of the power. Expect PCB to be treated more like a roadside rag here on.

 

[nuttyprof]

Only people upset are the Indians, Jay Shah still begging for a hybrid model

Where did you derive that from ? India just said they don’t want to play in Pakistan.

 

[emranabbas]

Where did you derive that from ? India just said they don’t want to play in Pakistan.

And yet, Indians feel the need to come to a Pakistani forum just to bash Pakistanis. Many have even created new accounts specifically to do so in this thread. If India truly didn’t care, they wouldn’t be showing such desperation.

I don't see pakistanis joining indian forums to show their frustrations because we don't care if India come or not its only the Indians showing frustration

 

[Shafikapeo]

India hasn’t visited Pakistan, yet Pakistani cricket has survived and will continue to survive.

It’s up to India to sever all ties with Pakistan, but it seems the principles of the BCCI and BJP are outweighed by the money they earn when India plays against Pakistan in other words, shameless , a special kind one, because it’s not like BCCI and BJP in need of that money.

I feel sorry for people like yourself who are standing up for their principles but yet your government refused to hear you.

The entire world engages with Afghanistan in cricket, but has any international team ever gone there to play? In a similar vein, Pakistan’s relationship with India mirrors this paradox. Pakistan label us an enemy nation, orchestrate proxy attacks on our soil, and yet expect our players to visit your country and play?

The mastermind behind the 26/11 attacks continues to walk free in Pakistan. The Pakistani establishment orchestrated the Pulwama attack, initiated the Kargil War, and yet claims that India is the one sabotaging the relationship? Let’s be clear—India is not naive.

Extremism in Pakistan has been escalating year after year, reaching alarming levels by 2024. If this sounds exaggerated, I encourage you to review the detailed report on Pakistan by the South Asia Terrorism Portal (SATP), which highlights the gravity of the situation.

 

[mb3407]

And yet, Indians feel the need to come to a Pakistani forum just to bash Pakistanis. Many have even created new accounts specifically to do so in this thread. If India truly didn’t care, they wouldn’t be showing such desperation.

I don't see pakistanis joining indian forums to show their frustrations because we don't care if India come or not its only the Indians showing frustration

But I see a lot of Pakistani cricketers covering team india on YouTube including an ex PCB chairman

 

[nuttyprof]

And yet, Indians feel the need to come to a Pakistani forum just to bash Pakistanis. Many have even created new accounts specifically to do so in this thread. If India truly didn’t care, they wouldn’t be showing such desperation.

I don't see pakistanis joining indian forums to show their frustrations because we don't care if India come or not its only the Indians showing frustration

We do care about pur adversaries. Just that we like to have schadenfreude time and over again.

 

[emranabbas]

But I see a lot of Pakistani cricketers covering team india on YouTube including an ex PCB chairman

First off, I wouldn’t take YouTubers seriously, they’ll say whatever gets them views and likes. That’s not just a Pakistani issue; it’s a universal thing.

Secondly, those YouTubers don’t represent the Pakistani public.

Third, just look at this thread. Despite being a majority Pakistani platform, 80% of the posts here are from Indians. Clearly, we can see where the frustration is really coming from.

And lastly, if you’re upset about something a YouTuber said, why not start your own channel and respond there? No need to come here wagging your tail and venting frustration out on others.

Do you see Pakistanis flocking to Indian media or forums to vent their frustration? No, you don’t. It’s pretty clear which side is more frustrated about not playing in the Champions Trophy.

 

[emranabbas]

We do care about pur adversaries. Just that we like to have schadenfreude time and over again.

It's nothing misunfortunate for pakistan that ab jay shah desperate to arrange a meeting With PCB, and PCB showing him no interest.. that's it self Is embarrassing for indians. Thata why your here to vent your frustration

 

[Dr_Bassim]

It seems like India is frustrated that PCB has not backed down so far.

The next 48 hours are probably going to be really squirmy for Indian fans.

They have put their mouth and said Pakistan will accept hybrid model by force.

But deep down they seem to be worried how this situation will pan out.

Desperately hoping to save some face, these Indian goons.

You know who you are (not all).

 

[mb3407]

First off, I wouldn’t take YouTubers seriously, they’ll say whatever gets them views and likes. That’s not just a Pakistani issue; it’s a universal thing.

Secondly, those YouTubers don’t represent the Pakistani public.

Third, just look at this thread. Despite being a majority Pakistani platform, 80% of the posts here are from Indians. Clearly, we can see where the frustration is really coming from.

And lastly, if you’re upset about something a YouTuber said, why not start your own channel and respond there? No need to come here wagging your tail and venting frustration out on others.

Do you see Pakistanis flocking to Indian media or forums to vent their frustration? No, you don’t. It’s pretty clear which side is more frustrated about not playing in the Champions Trophy.

I think an ex PCB chairman represents Pakistan more than some trolls/posters on a cricket forum.

If Ramiz doesn't represent pakistan then no way do Indian posters here represent India

 

[mb3407]

First off, I wouldn’t take YouTubers seriously, they’ll say whatever gets them views and likes. That’s not just a Pakistani issue; it’s a universal thing.

Secondly, those YouTubers don’t represent the Pakistani public.

Third, just look at this thread. Despite being a majority Pakistani platform, 80% of the posts here are from Indians. Clearly, we can see where the frustration is really coming from.

And lastly, if you’re upset about something a YouTuber said, why not start your own channel and respond there? No need to come here wagging your tail and venting frustration out on others.

Do you see Pakistanis flocking to Indian media or forums to vent their frustration? No, you don’t. It’s pretty clear which side is more frustrated about not playing in the Champions Trophy.

Why will I be upset over a youtuber. If anything the Pakistani youtubers butter India and bash Pakistan generally.

 

[emranabbas]

It seems like India is frustrated that PCB has not backed down so far.

The next 48 hours are probably going to be really squirmy for Indian fans.

They have put their mouth and said Pakistan will accept hybrid model by force.

But deep down they seem to be worried how this situation will pan out.

Desperately hoping to save some face, these Indian goons.

You know who you are (not all).

They’ll likely start pressuring other boards, threatening not to play against them or won't their players to play IPL if they don’t support the hybrid model.

But pakistan should not back down at any cost

 

[emranabbas]

I think an ex PCB chairman represents Pakistan more than some trolls/posters on a cricket forum.

If Ramiz doesn't represent pakistan then no way do Indian posters here represent India

This has nothing to do with Ramiz Raja,
like you said, he’s an "EX" PCB Chairman.

Your current daddy is Mohsin Naqvi, who is directly tied to the government. And last I checked, the government represents the country.

 

[mb3407]

This has nothing to do with Ramiz Raja,
like you said, he’s an "EX" PCB Chairman.

Your current daddy is Mohsin Naqvi, who is directly tied to the government. And last I checked, the government represents the country.

Mohsin's daddy is Jay Shah who will soon be sitting on top of ICC.

People of a country do represent the country, so I don't know what you are on about.

 

[boomboomcheema]

Indians fans were confident that their Board/Government will be able to bully PCB once again into submission just like it happened during the Asia Cup where Pakistan was the host yet the India , Pakistan match was held in SL, the Finals of the Tournament too..

Indians fans were bragging how Pakistan had to travel out of their country for their host tournament and expected the same to happen this time. So deep down they are in a shock since PCB is refusing to compromise again..

It will be victory for PCB as long as Pakistan don't travel outside to play their own matches and Final of the tournament is played in Pakistan . BCCI Fans can twist it as they like and cope but it will be defeat for their Bully Board..

 

[mb3407]

Indians fans were confident that their Board/Government will be able to bully PCB once again into submission just like it happened during the Asia Cup where Pakistan was the host yet the India , Pakistan match was held in SL, the Finals of the Tournament too..

Indians fans were bragging how Pakistan had to travel out of their country for their host tournament and expected the same to happen this time. So deep down they are in a shock since PCB is refusing to compromise again..

It will be victory for PCB as long as Pakistan don't travel outside to play their own matches and Final of the tournament is played in Pakistan . BCCI Fans can twist it as they like and cope but it will be defeat for their Bully Board..

Final is unlikely to happen in Pakistan.

 

[emranabbas]

Mohsin's daddy is Jay Shah who will soon be sitting on top of ICC.

People of a country do represent the country, so I don't know what you are on about.

Ramiz raja isn't bigger than the government that's the point in that post. Do you not have any common sense?

 

[emranabbas]

Final is unlikely to happen in Pakistan.

Based on what?

 

[mb3407]

Ramiz raja isn't bigger than the government that's the point in that post. Do you not have any common sense?

You have 0 common sense. Don't know why you brought government in the first place.

Even the government agreed to hybrid model in past so I don't know...

 

[mb3407]

Based on what?

Past anecdotes

 

[emranabbas]

Past anecdotes

You’re missing the point.

In the past, you were dealing with a journalist like Najam Sethi, a nobody like Ramiz Raja, and a businessman like Zaka Ashraf.

Now, you’re dealing with Mohsin Naqvi, who is directly connected to the government and the Interior Minister of Pakistan.

He won’t view this as just a sport, he’s a politician, and his stance is already firm.

Meanwhile, Jay Shah is clearly wetting his pants about it.

 

[HalBass9]

The entire world engages with Afghanistan in cricket, but has any international team ever gone there to play? In a similar vein, Pakistan’s relationship with India mirrors this paradox. Pakistan label us an enemy nation, orchestrate proxy attacks on our soil, and yet expect our players to visit your country and play?

The mastermind behind the 26/11 attacks continues to walk free in Pakistan. The Pakistani establishment orchestrated the Pulwama attack, initiated the Kargil War, and yet claims that India is the one sabotaging the relationship? Let’s be clear—India is not naive.

Extremism in Pakistan has been escalating year after year, reaching alarming levels by 2024. If this sounds exaggerated, I encourage you to review the detailed report on Pakistan by the South Asia Terrorism Portal (SATP), which highlights the gravity of the situation.

Teams aren’t visiting Afghanistan because they do not have infrastructure to hold cricket tournaments.

Every team is willing to visit Pakistan except India.

 

[Rajdeep]

It seems like India is frustrated that PCB has not backed down so far.

The next 48 hours are probably going to be really squirmy for Indian fans.

They have put their mouth and said Pakistan will accept hybrid model by force.

But deep down they seem to be worried how this situation will pan out.

Desperately hoping to save some face, these Indian goons.

You know who you are (not all).

Many Indian fans like myself also wanted our team to travel Pakistan to play this tournament considering it is an ICC event. If we can welcome them in India for WC 2023 or if we can play them everywhere in all ICC/ACC events, I see no reason why can't we play there unless Indian govt received some intel about security issue for our players.

However, you need to understand that BCCI is at top here due to their money power & clout. I mean ICC didn't even allow Pakistan written as host country on trophy tour and also banned it in PoK. In a situation like this, ICC accepting PCBs demands is a far fetched dream. So you will never find a situation where Indian fans have to save their face as India will not budge from their initial stance of not sending its team to Pakistan, including in finals.

Now if PCB also remain firm on their stance (which I hope they do), one of the following things will happen:

1. (Least likely scenario) - Entire tournament will be hosted in another country without Pakistan. The chances of this happening is slim but if it does it will have massive repercussion's in Pakistan cricket. ICC may ban them from upcoming future events for foreseeable future and stop funding of PCB. Then PCB need to rely on PSL and bi lateral tours to run their cricket.

2. (Likely scenario) - Champions Trophy will be postponed indefinitely. PCB will be loser in this financially and ICC will also lose money as they have to pay back broadcasters. ICC may ask both BCCI and PCB to pay for the loses.

3. (Most likely scenario) - All 12 member boards will vote to decide on the Hybrid model which BCCI will win by getting at least 10 votes. Apart from PCB themselves and probably BCB, no one will vote against BCCI. Moshin Naqvi can go back to his countrymen and say "Look I tried, didn't budge to BCCIs demands and shown them eye to eye but if member boards voted us out we have to respect the democratic process." This is like killing 2 birds with the same stone. Moshin Naqvi's political career will not get impacted as people will perceive him as strong man who took on dushman mulk till the end, PCB will also be applauded by public for not shying away from fighting, Champions trophy also goes ahead in hybrid model as BCCI wanted and PCB gets all the profits/money being host boards.

This is the way I am reading things and there are no other alternatives.

 

[HalBass9]

PCB receives handouts from ICC. To paraphrase Rameez Raja, BCCI can shut down PCB.

It is not about money. Pak games are small potatoes when compared to overall revenue. Just that India lacks the self confidence to assert itself. You see India never at the power up until now.

I am not standing up for my government, but hate it that they are not using full force of the power. Expect PCB to be treated more like a roadside rag here on.

PCB receive their share just as other cricketing team does.

It is about money for India. If it wasn’t then India would have refused to play Pakistan at every venue.

 

[Mesozoic]

Every team is willing to visit Pakistan except India.

Yes.

We can also put it this way..

No other team had it's countries' civilians killed by Pakistani terrorist filth except India.

No other team has the "privilege" of small dog syndrome induced obsessive hatred from Pakistan except India.

You know...just saying.

 

[emranabbas]

Yes.

We can also put it this way..

No other team had it's countries' civilians killed by Pakistani terrorist filth except India.

No other team has the "privilege" of small dog syndrome induced obsessive hatred from Pakistan except India.

You know...just saying.

keep your puppies in India they are not wanted in Pakistan anyways its your dogs begging for a hybrid model.

 

[HalBass9]

Yes.

We can also put it this way..

No other team had it's countries' civilians killed by Pakistani terrorist filth except India.

No other team has the "privilege" of small dog syndrome induced obsessive hatred from Pakistan except India.

You know...just saying.

You’re barking up the wrong tree. The right address is the Government of India. Try convincing them to stop India from playing against Pakistan at any venue, unless, of course, the Indian government values money more than the well being of its citizens.

 

[Mesozoic]

You’re barking up the wrong tree. The right address is the Government of India. Try convincing them to stop India from playing against Pakistan at any venue, unless, of course, the Indian government values money more than the well being of its citizens.

Unless you've been living under a rock, we have stopped Pakistan bilaterally at all venues. The only games we play are out of obligation for us being part of ICC and ACC.

And lol at Indian government wanting money from playing pakistan. You guys are just so damn clueless..

 

[HalBass9]

Unless you've been living under a rock, we have stopped Pakistan bilaterally at all venues. The only games we play are out of obligation for us being part of ICC and ACC.

And lol at Indian government wanting money from playing pakistan. You guys are just so damn clueless..

Obligation? I guess being obliged is superior than principles for India.

It is about money, if it wasn’t then India would have refused to play Pakistan at all venue in all tournament.

 

[Mesozoic]

keep your puppies in India they are not wanted in Pakistan anyways its your dogs begging for a hybrid model.

You are seriously projecting your inner insecurities with that "begging" word here on this thread. Let's just not get into that... you're a Pakistani it won't end well when you use the B word.

 

[mb3407]

Obligation? I guess being obliged is superior than principles for India.

It is about money, if it wasn’t then India would have refused to play Pakistan at all venue in all tournament.

Lol money. India Pakistan match revenue, heck entire BCCi revenue is chump change for the Indian government

 

[mb3407]

You are seriously projecting your inner insecurities with that "begging" word here on this thread. Let's just not get into that... you're a Pakistani it won't end well when you use the B word.

Yup not like we are discussing Pakistan and IMF here. Strange word here

 

[Mesozoic]

Obligation? I guess being obliged is superior than principles for India.

It is about money, if it wasn’t then India would have refused to play Pakistan at all venue in all tournament.

Who said it's about principles? And what principle exactly?

It's a simple government policy to not have any kind of bilateral relations with Pakistan. They do not want to let Pakistan earn money directly by using bilateral cricketing tours. simple as that.

 

[HalBass9]

Lol money. India Pakistan match revenue, heck entire BCCi revenue is chump change for the Indian government

Exactly

Who said it's about principles? And what principle exactly?

It's a simple government policy to not have any kind of bilateral relations with Pakistan. They do not want to let Pakistan earn money directly by using bilateral cricketing tours. simple as that.

Great.

So which one is it obligation to play ICC tournament, bilateral series, or not engaging Pakistan?

You all need to get on one page.

 

[mb3407]

Exactly


Great.

So which one is it obligation to play ICC tournament, bilateral series, or not engaging Pakistan?

You all need to get on one page.

They both are are coherent with each other. Its just your understanding mate

 

[Mesozoic]

So which one is it obligation to play ICC tournament, bilateral series, or not engaging Pakistan?

This doesn't even make any sense lmao..what even are you asking?

Not engaging Pakistan bilaterally and fulfilling our obligation to play them in ICC events is quite clearly mutually exclusive...can't believe I even have to explain this to you.

Are you seeing spots or something?

 

[Mesozoic]

They both are are coherent with each other. Its just your understanding mate

These guys have lost it.

I think part of the frustration is also that India beats their team in tournaments every year instead of just giving them the 2 points as bheek citing the so called "principle" that these guys have created themselves.

 

[nuttyprof]

This doesn't even make any sense lmao..what even are you asking?

Not engaging Pakistan bilaterally and fulfilling our obligation to play them in ICC events is quite clearly mutually exclusive...can't believe I even have to explain this to you.

Are you seeing spots or something?

These guys have lost it.

I think part of the frustration is also that India beats their team in tournaments every year instead of just giving them the 2 points as bheek citing the so called "principle" that these guys have created themselves.

Bhai. You are not gonna get thru. Somehow the delusions are they are owed the money and India stands to gain from 2 India Pak games we play . And this is not the worst of all. Some genius posts have been deleted. Ask @Hitman
No wonder is where it is right now.
And

 

[HalBass9]

These guys have lost it.

I think part of the frustration is also that India beats their team in tournaments every year instead of just giving them the 2 points as bheek citing the so called "principle" that these guys have created themselves.

But they aren’t mutually exclusive, as India continues to engage with Pakistan in ICC tournaments. If the goal is to weaken Pakistan financially, India should ideally refuse to play against them in any tournament. However, India doesn’t seem to do so perhaps the points are more important than the principles they often try to impose on others.

 

[Mesozoic]

But they aren’t mutually exclusive, as India continues to engage with Pakistan in ICC tournaments. If the goal is to weaken Pakistan financially, India should ideally refuse to play against them in any tournament. However, India doesn’t seem to do so perhaps the points are more important than the principles they often try to impose on others.

Yes India does engage in iCC tournaments because....as the name itself suggests, it is an "ICC" tournament. India doesn't have any control of which it can play during the tournament.

As I said above clearly, India's policy is to do whatever it is in its control to stop Pakistan from making money off of them and their cricket team. Now the only thing that is in its control is to decide whether to have bilateral tours with Pakistan or not.. because as you may know (or may not) FTP and tours are agreed between the boards voluntarily.

 

[HalBass9]

Bhai. You are not gonna get thru. Somehow the delusions are they are owed the money and India stands to gain from 2 India Pak games we play . And this is not the worst of all. Some genius posts have been deleted. Ask @Hitman
No wonder is where it is right now.
And

No! If Indians think they’re obligated to play against Pakistan but want to make sure Pakistan doesn’t benefit financially,especially since India vs. Pakistan games bring in big money for the ICC, shouldn’t they just refuse to play and shrink that purse?

By not boycotting Pakistan, India’s actions don’t really match the “principled stance”they keep talking about. Indians claim they don’t need the ICC’s “chump change,”but Pakistan does.

So, it seems like getting points in an ICC tournament matters more to India than sticking to their principles.

 

[nuttyprof]

No! If Indians think they’re obligated to play against Pakistan but want to make sure Pakistan doesn’t benefit financially,especially since India vs. Pakistan games bring in big money for the ICC, shouldn’t they just refuse to play and shrink that purse?

By not boycotting Pakistan, India’s actions don’t really match the “principled stance”they keep talking about. Indians claim they don’t need the ICC’s “chump change,”but Pakistan does.

So, it seems like getting points in an ICC tournament matters more to India than sticking to their principles.

India/BCCI still haven’t experienced how to use power effectively in institutions. It is because cricket is the first field India has complete monopoly in.
We still have some remnants of Gandhi/Nehru virus.
We still have sole internal traitors who love Pakistan.
We are not there yet and we are getting there.
In the meantime, no bilaterals, no gravy train for Pakistanis is a good start, which India can hopefully build on.

 

[zn426]

Yes.

We can also put it this way..

No other team had it's countries' civilians killed by Pakistani terrorist filth except India.

No other team has the "privilege" of small dog syndrome induced obsessive hatred from Pakistan except India.

You know...just saying.

You want to play these games? How many Pakistanis have been killed by the India-backed Northern Alliance terrorists? How many Pakistanis have been killed by the Indian-backed Balochi separatist movement?

Heck, I'm American. Let's flip this around and have a review. How many Americans have been killed by movements you've supported? You're playing with the Ayatollahs in Iran. Guess we need to start hammering you for buying oil from them and funding their terror all over the Middle East. Stop importing Iranian oil. Stop trading at all with Iran. Cancel all investments in Chabahar port. Do it now.

Stop pretending that you're the only one who's "suffered". There's been plenty of death caused by India.

This is politics gentlemen. It kills people.

If this is the mood among Indians, then frankly in one area I'd have to agree-they don't deserve Pakistani hospitality and shouldn't come to Pakistan. India must learn to be a good neighbor and not cause violence in other countries...

Why is Pakistan playing cricket with India at all? Seems the only reason is because broadcasters are dependent on that sweet Indo-Pak advertising revenue and they need it to pay their broadcasting agreements with India.

 

[guard]

You want to play these games? How many Pakistanis have been killed by the India-backed Northern Alliance terrorists? How many Pakistanis have been killed by the Indian-backed Balochi separatist movement?

Heck, I'm American. Let's flip this around and have a review. How many Americans have been killed by movements you've supported? You're playing with the Ayatollahs in Iran. Guess we need to start hammering you for buying oil from them and funding their terror all over the Middle East. Stop importing Iranian oil. Stop trading at all with Iran. Cancel all investments in Chabahar port. Do it now.

Stop pretending that you're the only one who's "suffered". There's been plenty of death caused by India.

This is politics gentlemen. It kills people.

If this is the mood among Indians, then frankly in one area I'd have to agree-they don't deserve Pakistani hospitality and shouldn't come to Pakistan. India must learn to be a good neighbor and not cause violence in other countries...

Why is Pakistan playing cricket with India at all? Seems the only reason is because broadcasters are dependent on that sweet Indo-Pak advertising revenue and they need it to pay their broadcasting agreements with India.

Which indian sportsmen/women were killed by Pakistan?!

 

[PakFan2010]

Everybody knows a hybrid model will be announced.

ICC should just hurry up and do it.

 

[nuttyprof]

You want to play these games? How many Pakistanis have been killed by the India-backed Northern Alliance terrorists? How many Pakistanis have been killed by the Indian-backed Balochi separatist movement?

Heck, I'm American. Let's flip this around and have a review. How many Americans have been killed by movements you've supported? You're playing with the Ayatollahs in Iran. Guess we need to start hammering you for buying oil from them and funding their terror all over the Middle East. Stop importing Iranian oil. Stop trading at all with Iran. Cancel all investments in Chabahar port. Do it now.

Stop pretending that you're the only one who's "suffered". There's been plenty of death caused by India.

This is politics gentlemen. It kills people.

If this is the mood among Indians, then frankly in one area I'd have to agree-they don't deserve Pakistani hospitality and shouldn't come to Pakistan. India must learn to be a good neighbor and not cause violence in other countries...

Why is Pakistan playing cricket with India at all? Seems the only reason is because broadcasters are dependent on that sweet Indo-Pak advertising revenue and they need it to pay their broadcasting agreements with India.

some potent stuff you are smoking. It is Pakistan who is crying about India not visiting…..
India just said they are not willing to travel.
Meanwhile the discussion is not about who is in the right and who is in the wrong.

 

[ChennaiFan]

some potent stuff you are smoking. It is Pakistan who is crying about India not visiting…..
India just said they are not willing to travel.
Meanwhile the discussion is not about who is in the right and who is in the wrong.

Being logical is going to work with those who are not only delusional, but also brainwashed. Fake bravado and aggression is a way to hide one's insecurities.

 

[Mesozoic]

You want to play these games? How many Pakistanis have been killed by the India-backed Northern Alliance terrorists? How many Pakistanis have been killed by the Indian-backed Balochi separatist movement?

Heck, I'm American. Let's flip this around and have a review. How many Americans have been killed by movements you've supported? You're playing with the Ayatollahs in Iran. Guess we need to start hammering you for buying oil from them and funding their terror all over the Middle East. Stop importing Iranian oil. Stop trading at all with Iran. Cancel all investments in Chabahar port. Do it now.

Stop pretending that you're the only one who's "suffered". There's been plenty of death caused by India.

This is politics gentlemen. It kills people.

If this is the mood among Indians, then frankly in one area I'd have to agree-they don't deserve Pakistani hospitality and shouldn't come to Pakistan. India must learn to be a good neighbor and not cause violence in other countries...

Why is Pakistan playing cricket with India at all? Seems the only reason is because broadcasters are dependent on that sweet Indo-Pak advertising revenue and they need it to pay their broadcasting agreements with India.

Lots of Ooga booga without any backing..reading all that.

Until and unless a group of Indian men enter Lahore or Karachi and shoot up innocent Pakistani civilians and children, this is all just terrible false equivalence. You can cry and moan all you want about India supporting separatist groups in Pakistan without any solid proof but what happened on 26/11 is reality and should be a bloat on any country's existence. And lol at "Pakistani hospitality".

 

[emranabbas]

some potent stuff you are smoking. It is Pakistan who is crying about India not visiting…..
India just said they are not willing to travel.
Meanwhile the discussion is not about who is in the right and who is in the wrong.

Show me how many pakistanis here are crying about India not visiting?

Everyone is saying champions trophy needs to go on with or without india.

But you Indians are butt hurt even new indians have joined this forum to cry that they want a hybrid model

 

[Dr_Bassim]

some potent stuff you are smoking. It is Pakistan who is crying about India not visiting…..
India just said they are not willing to travel.
Meanwhile the discussion is not about who is in the right and who is in the wrong.

I dont think Pakistanis even care if India comes or not as long as we can have the Champions Trophy to ourself.

India Pakistan match is always nice.

But it doesnt stop time.

Or a tournament.

The real crying is by Indians who have REFUSED to come to an ICC event and then are trying to force the ICC to shift the tournament out of Pakistan or hybrid model because they still want to play and get some money.

If that is not hypocrisy, what is?

You pulled out already.

Now why are you sticking your nose and trying to control ICC to make a decision?

Seriously!

 

[Shafikapeo]

Teams aren’t visiting Afghanistan because they do not have infrastructure to hold cricket tournaments.

Every team is willing to visit Pakistan except India.

First, you should do your research. Afghanistan does have proper cricket infrastructure, including international-standard stadiums like Ghazi Amanullah Stadium in Jalalabad, Kandahar International Stadium, and grounds in Herat and Kunduz for emerging divisions. The issue isn’t infrastructure—it’s the security situation. That’s why the Afghanistan Cricket Board (ACB) hosts home matches in neutral venues like India or the UAE. Teams avoid traveling to Afghanistan due to safety concerns, not a lack of cricket facilities.

As for your second point: India and Pakistan's relationship is fundamentally different from Pakistan's relationships with other countries. Do you label other nations as 'enemy states'? The reasons behind this dynamic are well-documented and have already been explained in my previous posts. I won’t repeat myself endlessly. If you prefer to remain ignorant despite knowing the facts, that’s your choice.

 

[Mesozoic]

INDIANS

"We ain't coming. Sorry ".


PAKISTANIS


"Why won't you come.. everyone is coming."


"We won't give you hybrid model"


"We will boycott ICC "


"Stop bringing politics into sports."


"We won't come to India in 2026"


"We won't play against you in future events"

 

[HalBass9]

India/BCCI still haven’t experienced how to use power effectively in institutions. It is because cricket is the first field India has complete monopoly in.
We still have some remnants of Gandhi/Nehru virus.
We still have sole internal traitors who love Pakistan.
We are not there yet and we are getting there.
In the meantime, no bilaterals, no gravy train for Pakistanis is a good start, which India can hopefully build on.

Your comments seem irrelevant, and I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here.

No one is discussing Nehru or Gandhi. The focus is on India’s selective protests, which reflect hypocrisy.

If ordinary individuals like you and I can recognize this, then India, as you claim to have total control over cricket, should have taken a firm stance by refusing to play against Pakistan in any event.

 

[HalBass9]

First, you should do your research. Afghanistan does have proper cricket infrastructure, including international-standard stadiums like Ghazi Amanullah Stadium in Jalalabad, Kandahar International Stadium, and grounds in Herat and Kunduz for emerging divisions. The issue isn’t infrastructure—it’s the security situation. That’s why the Afghanistan Cricket Board (ACB) hosts home matches in neutral venues like India or the UAE. Teams avoid traveling to Afghanistan due to safety concerns, not a lack of cricket facilities.

As for your second point: India and Pakistan's relationship is fundamentally different from Pakistan's relationships with other countries. Do you label other nations as 'enemy states'? The reasons behind this dynamic are well-documented and have already been explained in my previous posts. I won’t repeat myself endlessly. If you prefer to remain ignorant despite knowing the facts, that’s your choice.

No sir, Afghanistan doesn’t have infrastructure to host any international standard tournament.

 

[Shafikapeo]

I dont think Pakistanis even care if India comes or not as long as we can have the Champions Trophy to ourself.

India Pakistan match is always nice.

But it doesnt stop time.

Or a tournament.

The real crying is by Indians who have REFUSED to come to an ICC event and then are trying to force the ICC to shift the tournament out of Pakistan or hybrid model because they still want to play and get some money.

If that is not hypocrisy, what is?

You pulled out already.

Now why are you sticking your nose and trying to control ICC to make a decision?

Seriously!

I don't think we refused to play in the ICC tournament. Unfortunately for us, it is being hosted in Pakistan, a country we prefer not to travel to. There is a different!

 

[emranabbas]

INDIANS

"We ain't coming. Sorry ".


PAKISTANIS


"Why won't you come.. everyone is coming."


"We won't give you hybrid model"


"We will boycott ICC "


"Stop bringing politics into sports."


"We won't come to India in 2026"


"We won't play against you in future events"

check the beginning of the thread

the 1st, 2nd, 4th reply on this thread is by Indians that says it all

 

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Floodgates are open, prepare for incoming deluge

 

[Shafikapeo]

No sir, Afghanistan doesn’t have infrastructure to host any international standard tournament.

Your claim that Afghanistan lacks infrastructure to host international-standard tournaments is factually incorrect. Afghanistan has developed several international-standard stadiums, including:

1. Ghazi Amanullah Stadium (Jalalabad) – Designed to host international matches.


2. Kandahar International Cricket Stadium – Built to global standards.


3. Etisalat Cricket Stadium (Kabul) – A fully functional facility.


4. Herat and Kunduz Grounds – Emerging venues for competitive cricket.



The Afghanistan Cricket Board (ACB) has officially stated that it's their security concerns, not infrastructure (as you mentioned), are the reason they host matches in neutral venues like the UAE or India. This is well-documented and easily verifiable—it's even mentioned on Wikipedia.

So, before making blanket statements, please ensure they’re backed by facts. Afghanistan's cricketing journey has been challenging, but to claim they lack infrastructure is to overlook their tremendous efforts and progress. To be clear, security concerns—not a lack of infrastructure—remain the primary hurdle for international cricket in Afghanistan.

 

[Devadwal]

Damn this thread will take another BIg U - turn after next 40 hours.

I'll wait untill that time because some Delusion fans wont understand currently .
To the Pakistan delusion fans,Keep the excuse ready for the inevitable decison

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I don't think we refused to play in the ICC tournament. Unfortunately for us, it is being hosted in Pakistan, a country we prefer not to travel to. There is a different!

No difference.

Either you are in it, or you aren't.

If you aren't, then that's that.

Stop begging the ICC to make it hybrid so you can play.

We don't care as long as ICC replaces your stars with another team.

 

[Devadwal]

No difference.

Either you are in it, or you aren't.

If you aren't, then that's that.

Stop begging the ICC to make it hybrid so you can play.

We don't care as long as ICC replaces your stars with another team.

India is begging?? India just said we don't want to travel Pakistan.

India is not begging but ICC or all other boards are not agree to Play any ICC tournaments without india.

Who will pay the Bill you or PCB ?? If You or PCB can assured the ICC or all the boards than host it without india.

ICC will gladly accept this offer. Hai dum ?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I am the first to admit that this Champions Trophy has been hijacked by BCCI who will flex its muscle and force the ICC and PCB to adopt a hybrid model or change its venue completely.

But then to say Indians don't care about CT happening in Pakistan is a big ton of codswallop. You guys signed off the CT thinking Pakistan will beg India. Pakistan said bye bye and said they won't adopt hybrid.

Jay Shah holds a meeting with ICC to find a way for India to enter again. Jay Shah forces ICC and PCB to make India play using the hybrid model or changing the venue.

BCCI and Indian posters say they don't care about Champions Trophy.

What a load of falsehood and nonsense !

 

[Dr_Bassim]

India is begging?? India just said we don't want to travel Pakistan.

India is not begging but ICC or all other boards are not agree to Play any ICC tournaments without india.

Who will pay the Bill you or PCB ?? If You or PCB can assured the ICC or all the boards than host it without india.

ICC will gladly accept this offer. Hai dum ?

Do you have any proof that all other countries have refused to play CT if there is no India or have refused to play the CT in Pakistan ?

 

[Devadwal]

I am the first to admit that this Champions Trophy has been hijacked by BCCI who will flex its muscle and force the ICC and PCB to adopt a hybrid model or change its venue completely.

But then to say Indians don't care about CT happening in Pakistan is a big ton of codswallop. You guys signed off the CT thinking Pakistan will beg India. Pakistan said bye bye and said they won't adopt hybrid.

Jay Shah holds a meeting with ICC to find a way for India to enter again. Jay Shah forces ICC and PCB to make India play using the hybrid model or changing the venue.

BCCI and Indian posters say they don't care about Champions Trophy.

What a load of falsehood and nonsense !

Jay shah= ICC. Keep crying

 

[Devadwal]

Do you have any proof that all other countries have refused to play CT if there is no India or have refused to play the CT in Pakistan ?

Check the statement of ECB chief .

Champions Trophy without India not an option, say ECB chiefs

There are "lots of contingencies available" in the event that India do not travel to Pakistan for the tournament but, to "protect broadcast rights", replacing India in the line-up is not one of them

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