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[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

Devadwal said:
Tournaments is happening just After 2 amd half months not 6 months.

I already said ICC Only thinking about current situation not what is going to happen after 2 month's.
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Oh, then I stand corrected. I thought we have 6 months left.
 
Buffet said:
2 months was too short a time and it was prime minister escaping the country and whole thing was upside down in Bangladesh.I am not sure it's apple to appple comparison. 6 months are left and it's not as bad as BD situation right now.
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BD situation started in July and everything went back to normal by the end of September. South Africa even toured BD without any issue.

I don't think CT should be moved just because of this. There's still a bit of time left before CT (almost 4 months).
 
Buffet said:
Given current situation, not unexpected.
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We are not far behind when CA ,ECB or NZ cricket board can realase a statement like we can't play champion trophy in pakistan due to current political turmoil there . ICC get's best possible reason to change the venues .
 
Devadwal said:
We are not far behind when CA ,ECB or NZ cricket board can realase a statement like we can't play champion trophy in pakistan due to current political turmoil there . ICC get's best possible reason to change the venues .
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Don't worry. Javed miandad will convince CA, ECB etc by releasing a video saying, "maut to ek din sabko aani hi he, come and play cricket in Pak".
 
Rajdeep said:
Suddenly I am getting a strong feeling that the tournament will be shifted to England and will be played in June.

Calendar wise it is perfect as most teams are free and last 2 editions of Champions Trophy there were super hit without any sub continental drama.

It is too late to organize tournament now in Feb
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& call it the rain cup.. how many tournaments have been ruined in eng by rain.
 
Rajdeep said:
Same thing is happening in Bangladesh. Don't want to make this political but just imagine the bad luck of India. Surrounded by these fanatical countries in both side.
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No need to visit these fanatic countries just sit home and relax. Why beg for a hybrid model?
 
emranabbas said:
No need to visit these fanatic countries just sit home and relax. Why beg for a hybrid model?
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Inshallah, lives of cricketers and the fans is important. No one should risk it.
Very much believe sane heads will prevail and the entire tournament be shifted out of a country on the brink of civil war.
 
emranabbas said:
@Bewal Express what's is this bro? Why you lot protesting when you know theirs champions trophy around the corner?
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Really? Our human rights have been destroyed, our elections have been been stolen and 1000s have been arrested for asking for basic human rights and not to mention the murder and kidnappings and you are worried about a cricket tournament. Check your morals and get your priorities right.
 
emranabbas said:
It was highly unprofessional of the BCCI to inform the ICC just three months before the tournament that they wouldn’t be traveling to Pakistan, seemingly just to disrupt the 100-day countdown celebration. This level of pettiness from India is evident, yet you have the audacity to criticize the PCB. The BCCI had several years to notify the ICC if the Indian team wasn’t planning to travel to Pakistan.
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On purpose!! To create disruption
 
Dr_Bassim said:
That is the opinion of ECB chief.

No country has said outright they "refuse to play CT in Pakistan without India".

Unfortunately, I completely agree that India will muscle its way into this CT by making it hybrid.

It's just that when you guys say "You don't care about CT or playing Pakistan" its a huge load of nonsense because if you clearly did not care, you wouldn't be muscling everyone to accept your power.
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They're fully aligned with the bully approach that BCCI has.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
That is the opinion of ECB chief.

No country has said outright they "refuse to play CT in Pakistan without India".

Unfortunately, I completely agree that India will muscle its way into this CT by making it hybrid.

It's just that when you guys say "You don't care about CT or playing Pakistan" its a huge load of nonsense because if you clearly did not care, you wouldn't be muscling everyone to accept your power.
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Rather everyone cares about Where India plays and makes concessions. Indian economy is on the rise. Imagine the case in next 5 years now
 
sweep_shot said:
Most dramas are created by BCCI and Indians. They seem to think world is an extension to Bollywood.

These dramas wouldn't have happened if India were okay to come to Pakistan just like 6 other teams (England, Australia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, New Zealand, and South Africa).
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These dramas would not have happened had ICC put in SL to replace India too.
 
As per reports, the ICC has called for a board meeting on November 29, hoping to get a clear answer on where and how the 2025 Champions Trophy will be played

With India not willing to travel to Pakistan and with Pakistan refusing to back down and adopt a hybrid model that allows India to play their games in a second country, it is likely members will be asked to vote on a solution. ESPNcricinfo understands the meeting will be virtual and a final decision could be taken after the ICC Board arrives at a consensus.

While the window for the eight-team ODI tournament has been earmarked between February 19 and March, the ICC has not announced the dates as well or a schedule formally. Normally, for a global tournament, the ICC has in the past announced the schedule 100 days prior to the event.

The reason for the delay is the Indian government's refusal to allow Rohit Sharma's team the permission to travel to Pakistan. That decision was communicated to the ICC a fortnight ago. The PCB, who were awarded the hosting rights for Champions Trophy in 2021, subsequently wrote to the ICC posing several questions around the exact reasons BCCI had given, and when they informed the ICC. According to a PCB official, they have not received a response from the ICC to date.

The PCB chairman Mohsin Naqvi has remained steadfast about hosting the entire tournament in Pakistan, at three venues: Lahore, Karachi, and Rawalpindi. Last week he said he would be open to a dialogue with the BCCI to break the deadlock. An ICC spokesperson confirmed Friday's meeting, but the PCB has made no comment so far.

The ICC Board comprises representatives from the 12 Full Member countries, three representatives from Associates, an independent director along with the ICC chairman and CEO. The meeting comes right at the end of the tenure of the current ICC chair Greg Barclay. This will be the last board meeting he chairs before, on Sunday (December 1st), he is replaced by Jay Shah, the BCCI secretary and a key figure in the Champions Trophy matter.

Naqvi, the PCB chairman, is also a key figure in the Pakistan government, as its interior minister. Over the last couple of days he has been preoccupied in Islamabad in an effort to quell political protests by PTI, the party of former premier (and captain) Imran Khan.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Last week he said he would be open to a dialogue with the BCCI to break the deadlock. An ICC spokesperson confirmed Friday's meeting, but the PCB has made no comment so far.
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So its Naqvi who is eager and begging to talk to BCCI? I thought it was the other way 😂
 
jnaveen1980 said:
May very well be. But the timing of these events will definitely be a problem for PCB. If one of the big three joins BCCI it show will end. They can't just explain away. It is all about optics.
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This is true. It seems political events in Pakistan have turned in favour of BCCI, this will definitely put PCB in a weaker position. A stroke of good luck for the Indian govt, and to be fair, the Pakistan establishment have done a great job of advancing Indian stance for a long time now.
 
Quite unlikely that Pakistan will be able to host Champions Trophy next year as per the schedule.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
This is true. It seems political events in Pakistan have turned in favour of BCCI, this will definitely put PCB in a weaker position. A stroke of good luck for the Indian govt, and to be fair, the Pakistan establishment have done a great job of advancing Indian stance for a long time now.
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There is danger to Imran if not the protesters have been calm for 2 years now won’t suddenly be on the streets with so much motivation.
 
sweep_shot said:
ICC and many different cricket boards have enabled BCCI to become such a big bully.

If they kept BCCI in check during the earlier days, this could've been prevented.
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Du you have time frame?

What should have been done differently?

What would have you done differently?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
That by definition means you care quite a lot then.
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They all do, they just pretend they do not but their reactions give it away.

Very emotional and insecure bunch.

I think sometimes they forget they are on a UK forum where the mindset isn't easily fooled as compared with India.
 
nuttyprof said:
The experience of joy or pleasure when learning of or witnessing another person's suffering, pain, humiliation, failures, or troubles

Which part in the above definition indicates, I care
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Honestly, if you need me to explain that to you, it's really not worth the bother. You've basically laid out my argument for me.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
This is true. It seems political events in Pakistan have turned in favour of BCCI, this will definitely put PCB in a weaker position. A stroke of good luck for the Indian govt, and to be fair, the Pakistan establishment have done a great job of advancing Indian stance for a long time now.
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Where are Nawas Sharif's relation with Modi when you need?
 
Just agree to hybrid model but refuse to play India at neutral venue. I think it's ridiculous for host to play any of its matches on neutral venues just to accommodate one team

ICC changes the groups and compensate the broadcaster.

India can play all it's matches in Dubai including the semifinal if they qualify
One semifinal in UAE other in Pakistan
Final in Pakistan whether India qualifies or not

This above model should be applied to ICC events in India. No more group matches. The final will be in India, If they qualify; Pakistan travels to India and plays the game
 
Giroux28 said:
Just agree to hybrid model but refuse to play India at neutral venue. I think it's ridiculous for host to play any of its matches on neutral venues just to accommodate one team

ICC changes the groups and compensate the broadcaster.

India can play all it's matches in Dubai including the semifinal if they qualify
One semifinal in UAE other in Pakistan
Final in Pakistan whether India qualifies or not

This above model should be applied to ICC events in India. No more group matches. The final will be in India, If they qualify; Pakistan travels to India and plays the game
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With ongoing situation and cancellation of SL today, some other countries may not want to tour Pakistan right now.

Tournament is 2 months away but countries are deciding right now, so it may not be upto Pakistan to agree on hybrid if some other country refuses to tour Pakistan right now.

With current events, it may be out of Pakistan's hand to decide anything.
 
Giroux28 said:
Just agree to hybrid model but refuse to play India at neutral venue. I think it's ridiculous for host to play any of its matches on neutral venues just to accommodate one team

ICC changes the groups and compensate the broadcaster.

India can play all it's matches in Dubai including the semifinal if they qualify
One semifinal in UAE other in Pakistan
Final in Pakistan whether India qualifies or not

This above model should be applied to ICC events in India. No more group matches. The final will be in India, If they qualify; Pakistan travels to India and plays the game
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Betaaa wake up and smell the coffee. The only real option is to boycott ICC.
 
Buffet said:
I went thorugh dawn for news. It seems domestic protest has esclated. I don't think it should have an impact on tournament happening after 6 months. Now if it keeps getting worse or if there are some terrorist killings then its a differnet situation.

Reports are calling it terorrist, but I think that's misleading. It's just domestic political protest getting out of hands.
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its happening within 3 months, not 6. ICC postponed T20 WC from BD for similar reasons around similar timelines.
 
Thanos said:
Don't worry. Javed miandad will convince CA, ECB etc by releasing a video saying, "maut to ek din sabko aani hi he, come and play cricket in Pak".
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if he is not able to convince them with that statement, he will try with his sword :)

www.mykhel.com

Why Javed Miandad Wants to 'Wield Sword Against Indians'? Controversial Video of Former Pak Cricketer Goes Viral

aved Miandads controversial video, where he threatens to wield a sword against Indians, has gone viral amid rising tensions between India and Pakistan over the ICC Champions Trophy. The former cricketers provocative remarks have sparked outrage online.
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At this rate, Pakistan will be lucky to get a hybrid model.

Once foreign governments issue guidance not to travel to Pakistan, the ICC will be left with no choice.
 
PTI supporters calling for more and more people in millions to come on the streets to cause disruption and chaos :facepalm:

they don't care about the tournament at all.

Expect England, NZ, Australia teams/boards to push for hosting the tournament out of Pakistan if this doesn't end soon .
 
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boomboomcheema said:
PTI supporters calling for more and more people in millions to come on the streets to cause disruption and chaos :facepalm:

, they don't care about the tournament at all.

Expect England, NZ, Australia teams/boards to push for hosting the tournament out of Pakistan if this doesn't end soon .
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It would appear that there are bigger issues in Pakistan that require immediate attention than the CT2025.

Would like to hear your explanation on if and how they are wrong
 
ICC had invited World Cup winning captains and one of them was in jail at that time. ICC failed to take a stand for him and now he is going to make ICC pay by forcing them to shift or cancel their tournament. Karma strikes!
 
arunp said:
@sweep_shot Still waiting.
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First of all, I get tagged by many different people. It is not practical to answer every single question. It can eat up all my time.

Secondly, the guy you quoted is on my ignore list. So, I can't see these posts, unless I click on "show ignored content".

Anyway, to answer @rpant_gabba, that "early period" started right before IPL started (2008-ish).
 
Srilanka cancelling their A tour is a significant move which will alarm the other cricketing boards. Unless Pakistan government de-esclates, it very quickly chances of hosting CT will evaporate.
 
sweep_shot said:
First of all, I get tagged by many different people. It is not practical to answer every single question. It can eat up all my time.

Secondly, the guy you quoted is on my ignore list. So, I can't see these posts, unless I click on "show ignored content".

Anyway, to answer @rpant_gabba, that "early period" started right before IPL started (2008-ish).
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What should have PCB done differently ?
 
sweep_shot said:
First of all, I get tagged by many different people. It is not practical to answer every single question. It can eat up all my time.

Secondly, the guy you quoted is on my ignore list. So, I can't see these posts, unless I click on "show ignored content".

Anyway, to answer @rpant_gabba, that "early period" started right before IPL started (2008-ish).
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Even before IPL BCCI was the highest contributor to ICC revenue.

What could ICC do?

Stop the IPL?

Take control of the IPL?

Takeaway revenue of the IPL?

What?
 
cricketjoshila said:
Even before IPL BCCI was the highest contributor to ICC revenue.

What could ICC do?

Stop the IPL?

Take control of the IPL?

Takeaway revenue of the IPL?

What?
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What you don’t realise is that you’ve destroyed the game people love, one day you’ll realise that too but your nationalist sentiment will stop you from admitting it.

Cricket isn’t any better for this t20 circus. International cricket will die. Cricket will be an Indian sport and you’ll be competing against each other rather than other countries.

Trust me, I know what I’m talking about here- you are killing cricket so you can make money in return.

History will remember this.
 
Personally I rather see the event get postponed to a future date than play the hybrid model. PCB can finish the renovation of its grounds and are ready to host the event when things calm down.

Hopefully the same thing happens in the upcoming Asia Cup. Either it gets postponed or the tournament happens at a neutral venue or Pakistan boycotts it if it's played in India.
 
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