Rohit Sharma vs Umar Akmal

[Master Blaster]

Umar Akmal is still miles ahead of Ghambir and Shewag.

 

[battler]

Rohit averaging 288 in tests

 

[the Great Khan]

Umar Akmal is still miles ahead of Ghambir and Shewag.

what in the paratha eating stakes? or perhaps in the wearing lipstick stakes?

 

[mithyaa]

Rohit averaging 288 in test

this

 

[Abdul Ahad]

First they compared him with Virat and now Rohit. Even Rohit Sharma left Umar Akmal far behind whereas Umar Akmal is still looking to play properly. A bastman who cannot even stand properly and dance while batting can never be compared with proper batsmen.

 

[Gunner85]

If i was Sehwag or Gambhir i will create a fake account on this forum and starts threads like Sehwag versus Umar Akmal or Gambhir versus Umar Akmal.

 

[Electron]

If i was Sehwag or Gambhir i will create a fake account on this forum and starts threads like Sehwag versus Umar Akmal or Gambhir versus Umar Akmal.

Umar Akmals powers don't work with old guys. See how Sachin deteriorated after the comparison was made.

 

[pakistanalltheway]

Rohit Sharma vs Umar Akmal [Merged]

If he stopped dancing around and slogging he would be a lot better player . Honestly that shot for 6 was a beauty and all it needed was timing no dancing or slogging .

 

[velu]

If i was Sehwag or Gambhir i will create a fake account on this forum and starts threads like Sehwag versus Umar Akmal or Gambhir versus Umar Akmal.

if i am sachin , i will create one thread as arjun tendulkar vs umar akmal

 

[Major]

The comparisons started from Tendulkar, then Viv Richards, then Virat Kohli, Raina, Rohit Sharma and now Ashwin....

Umar Akmal ended up being a failure, if compared to Kohli and co.

 

[Abdul Ahad]

Never seen a PROPER batsman trying to paddle sweep the off side wide balls. He has done it many times. It's necessary for him to get out of the crease after blocking the ball. His stance is poor, not even close to a PROPER batsman. He can play as a wicket keeper and his supporters must expect 20-30 rusn from him. Rohit Sharma struggled a lot with a bad form but he never did the goof up and dancing like Umar.

 

[leatherface58]

Come on Rohit please thank Umar for your resurgence in the presentation ceremony for once. Don't be ungrateful.

 

[shikari]

First it used to be Umar Akmal vs Virat Kohli comparisons

Then its Umar Akmal vs Rohit Sharma
Soon or I should say now it should be Umar Akmal vs Ashwin

In the future it will be Umar Akmal vs Umar Akmal

I dont see any hopes for Umar Akmal as a batsman. He is what he is cannot change him

 

[Savak]

Pakistani fans are without a doubt the worst in the world. Entitlement and glory hunting mentality, I doubt they have ever really supported any player in difficult times.

I still remember the CT trophy reaction when everyone changed face that akmal should only be compared to Pakistani batsmen and not to international players.

And Ofcourse whenever Misbah is compared everyone brings mitigating circumstances into play as his defense but not to akmal, Shafiq, shehzad, jamshed, Amin etc.

We honestly do not have the patience or stomach for team building.

 

[endymion248]

Exactly. They dismiss good players after one or two failures and, nowadays, bring up list A averages to put down newbies.

 

[Buffet]

Sharma had a huge temperament issue for a long time. Who knows may be Umar may get better. He is not old and has plenty of years left.

 

[Aman]

Sharma had a huge temperament issue for a long time. Who knows may be Umar may get better. He is not old and has plenty of years left.

Exactly. They dismiss good players after one or two failures and, nowadays, bring up list A averages to put down newbies.

Well said.

What's worse is the same fans want to make Afridi (despite his performances) and Alam captain.. Just goes to show how much weight their opinion should hold..

 

[test_fan]

Looks like it's working LOL

 

[endymion248]

Well said.

What's worse is the same fans want to make Afridi (despite his performances) and Alam captain.. Just goes to show how much weight their opinion should hold..

IMO, Amin is more similar to Rohit than Ukmal because Ukmal doesn't have a pleasing technique like Rohit, on top of temperament issues.

 

[Aman]

IMO, Amin is more similar to Rohit than Ukmal because Ukmal doesn't have a pleasing technique like Rohit, on top of temperament issues.

Amin looks a classy batsmen but seems mentally weak. I never expect much from him when he comes to bat he lacks confidence and isn't really good at reading the game.

 

[endymion248]

Amin looks a classy batsmen but seems mentally weak. I never expect much from him when he comes to bat he lacks confidence and isn't really good at reading the game.

That is what Rohit used to be. You can overcome mental issues. Akmal can never be as classy as either Amin or Rohit.

 

[Strike Rate]

We need to make this thread active again to boost rohit performance!

 

[velu]

We need to make this thread active again to boost rohit performance!

multiplying a zeo by anything yields no more than a zero onting

 

[Square Drive]

Can't believe I made such a silly comparison... and that silly comparison has reached 5 pages as well.

Umar Akmal > Team India #nuffsaid

 

[London_Lahori]

Lol these two players are throwing their careers away.

 

[Anfield]

Rohit Sharma is a hack overseas. He can't pierce the gap along the ground in first 10 overs. Whoever said that Rohit is the most talented batsman in India should take a walk.

 

[CricketCartoons]

What is the latest on this comparison from two most talented cricketers?

 

[manick badsha]

Rohit wins this round

 

[Bhaijaan]

Not sure if Umar is capable of playing such innings anymore, that Rohit just pulls out of the hat once in every 2-3 months.

 

[Adnan Siddiqui]

Not sure if Umar is capable of playing such innings anymore, that Rohit just pulls out of the hat once in every 2-3 months.

Umar Akmal is limited player. He can play only 2 shots, midwicket and cut

 

[Hamza_]

Umar has just Two ODI Tons,One against SL other Afghanistan in which he was dropped twice. Akmal is terrible

 

[Tusker]

First it used to be Umar Akmal vs Virat Kohli comparisons

Then its Umar Akmal vs Rohit Sharma
Soon or I should say now it should be Umar Akmal vs Ashwin

In the future it will be Umar Akmal vs Umar Akmal

I dont see any hopes for Umar Akmal as a batsman. He is what he is cannot change him

Pretty sure there is/was a thread comparing him with Tendulkar

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Umar Akmal is limited player. He can play only 2 shots, midwicket and cut

Rohit is a limited player too. He can only play on flat pitches.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Rohit scores 170 and Umar is back in the side for the 1st T20i against NZ. Let's see if Umar can improve his game on this tour.

 

[axl100mph]

An average of 30 (which is inflated by runs against Zimbabwe) after so many years shows what an overrated and garbage player he is. He is 26 now, not even a youngster.

He isn't even a poor man's Umar Akmal let alone more talented than him hahaha.

When and where has he shown this huge amount of talent? If he can't prove end product what is the use of his unbelievable talent?
Go and watch Umar bat and not just highlights. I admit he throws his wickets away but he isn't a cross batted slogger at all. He is a very well rounded batsman. It isn't about playing beautiful shots. Even Hafeez plays some gorgeous shots but we all know what a useless batsman he is?

 

[SpellChecker]

Is this thread title some kind of a Joke? Comparing Rohit to Akmal LOL

 

[Major]

lol what an insult to Rohit

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Is this thread title some kind of a Joke? Comparing Rohit to Akmal LOL

There was a time when this comparison wasn't funny and looked like a genuine competition.

How wrong were we ...


Also, I believe since these comparison threads are the kiss of death for our batters, we should make threads like Rohit Sharma vs. Aizaz Cheema

 

[Rightarmfast]

Can you guys plz make threads like Bhuvaneswar Kumar vs Wahab Riaz? lets see if our bowlers start outperforming your bowlers or not

 

[The_KING]

Rohit is miles ahead of Umar. I would happily have him in my team over Akmal any day of the week.

 

[axl100mph]

Can you guys plz make threads like Bhuvaneswar Kumar vs Wahab Riaz? lets see if our bowlers start outperforming your bowlers or not

 

[msb314]

Never has [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] misjudged a player so badly LOL!

This is almost as bad as the 'Steven Smith is the worst player to ever play for Australia' by Saqs!

 

[LegendAli]

What an insult to Mr. Sharma.

 

[Acricketfan]

Rohit Sharma is a hack overseas He can't pierce the gap along the ground in first 10 overs. Whoever said that Rohit is the most talented batsman in India should take a walk.

Two odi hundreds against the best ODI team of this era in their own backyard. That too at Melbourne and Perth.

 

[Anfield]

Two odi hundreds against the best ODI team of this era in their own backyard. That too at Melbourne and Perth.

Seems like hack is improving. But let's not exaggerate against the best six. It's their third string bowling attack.

 

[WC-Passion]

Damn these threads really do boost the other player that Umar is being compared to lol, while Umar slowly becomes worse.

 

[Firebreaker]

HAHAHAHAH Rohit has scored same amount of centuries in the space of 3 days which Umar has scored in his whole career

 

[Iqbal6]

No doubt.

Its Rohit Sharma.

 

[Bhaijaan]

lol Akmals record is far superior in odis . Sharma hasnt played tests, akmal has played all but one innings in asia and during that time period had the highest average for a pakistani bat.

only in t20s does sharma take the apple

Sharma? Who avges 22 in his last 12 odis and 31 overall?

Please!! Akmal all the way

Lost patience with Rohit now. He's got it all yet continues to fail. Plays with legends, is supported to play his natural game and is still failing. Has had so many chances. Been moved around the order but still failing.

Umar is a lot different. Averaging a lot more then Rohit. Best PAK batsman(stats wise) and he isn't allowed to play in his natural position.

Umar > Rohit.

Rohit is a poor man's Bopara with the bat.

^ Rohit averages around 30 in ODIs
Umar averages nearly 40 in ODIs

Don't see how they're comparable

Umar is a far better batsman and performer, despite being denied playing at home he averages a lot more than rohit.

Indian posters say Rohit is talented but how, Kohli is much better,Rohit is not international standard

Rohit is a nobody, he can bugger off.

Pakistan however will sink without Akmal's middle-order batting and keeping skills.

Lol what a poor comparison.

Rohit is a poor man's Umar at best.

It has taken him years to take his average beyond the 20s.

His talent is imaginary; got very little to show for it.

Umar has a far better average and far better strike rate. He's in a different league to Rohit. Very lame comparison.

Umar is definitely better

rohit lol..another batsman who is bekaar..bit of swing, bit of pressure and the glass man shatters..another boring indian player.

Based on what?



Both toured WI in the space of few days.

Rohit - 5 matches, 217 runs at an average of 54.

Umar - 5 matches, 175 runs at an average of 58.

Since Rohit was opening, he had the opportunity to score more runs. But on balance of play, it is very fair to say that both had equally good tours.



Umar's last 15 matches before he was dropped = average of 43.

Umar' last 6 matches before he was dropped = average of 50.

How is that inconsistent? and why shouldn't we focus on overall averages? because it makes Rohit look bad and Umar look good?

Besides, no of hundreds are not the most important factor. It is your consistency of runs.

Hussey, one of the greatest ODI batsman of all time has only 3 hundreds compared to someone like Tharanga who has 13. So who is a better ODI batsman?



Please stop living under this delusion that Umar and Rohit are players of similar class and pedigree who have both followed similar career paths. Sorry to say but that is pure **.

it took Rohit 100 matches to take his ODI average beyond 30. Tried and tested failures like Farhat and Malik average more than him.

Umar Akmal is in a completely different league to Rohit. No comparison between the two.

Talent is meaningless when you have nothing to show for it at the highest level. 1/2 good series cannot wash away the 6 years of garbage.

Comparing Rohit to Umar is as pathetic as comparing Umar to Kohli.

Kohli is on a different level to Umar and Umar is on a different level to Kohli.

I dont remember a single batsmen in India's Odi history who has gone on to represent the country for more than 100 times, undeservingly and with such ease.

Even the likes of Sidhu, Ajay Jadeja, kaif, Manjrekar, Kambli gave more better performance after 100 Odis.

Its a shame that a more talented bat like Umar Akmal is being forced to keep wickets to earn a place in the time while a crap performer like Rohit is being given chances as dole.

Who would u consider a better player and bigger asset to his team?

There are two questions here and doesn't necessarily make the same answer.

1. Who is better player? ***** sharma. He has a place in Indian batting lineup that says a lot.

2. Who is bigger asset to his team? here Umar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***** sharma.

Hack, Umar is bigger asset to his team than Tendu to indian team.

Two different frame of reference on the latter question.

^ What a stupid logic. Umar is not an Indian hence he cannot play for India and have a place in their batting line up so how does that make Rohit better than him?

Answer this. If Umar could play for India, would you pick him ahead of Rohit? looking at their track record, any sane person would.

Rohit behind UA....now that goes to show how pathetic Rohit has been that he is behind UA...... rohit's main problem is his attitude.....he looks like taking his place for granted and has looked so for 6 years now...UA is better

Reading the posts on page 1 and 2 especially Mamoon's

What a remarkable turnaround from Rohit! Incredible.

He's turned from complete garbage to diamond ever since he started opening.

 

[Snak3eye5]

Reading the posts on page 1 and 2 especially Mamoon's

What a remarkable turnaround from Rohit! Incredible.

He's turned from complete garbage to diamond ever since he started opening.

Just wow, !!!! reading all the above comments from Mamoon.

 

[Savak]

Jokes aside, I think Umar Akmal is clearly the better player.

No bias.

How times change

 

[CadPakFan]

Umar Akmal makes Rohit Sharma look like Don Bradman.

 

[Savak]

This thread is proof that its about getting the best out of your players. Attapatu was a failure in his first few years.

Rohit Sharma had played a hundred plus ODI's and was averaging 30 and many ex players were losing patience with him and calling for him to be dropped. Umar Akmal at that stage in 2013 had a higher average than Rohit.

How times change. Umar Akmal will probably never play for Pakistan again now.

 

[Sam99]

How time changed. Rohit #2 batsman in odis just behind kohli and umar akamal is no way near pakistan team.

 

[Indiafan]

This thread is proof that its about getting the best out of your players. Attapatu was a failure in his first few years.

Rohit Sharma had played a hundred plus ODI's and was averaging 30 and many ex players were losing patience with him and calling for him to be dropped. Umar Akmal at that stage in 2013 had a higher average than Rohit.

How times change. Umar Akmal will probably never play for Pakistan again now.

If Rohit Sharma had done all the antics Umar did and had the same ill discipline, he wouldn't be selected again. Kambli, Sreesanth are some examples

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Reading the posts on page 1 and 2 especially Mamoon's

What a remarkable turnaround from Rohit! Incredible.

He's turned from complete garbage to diamond ever since he started opening.

hence proved don't take mamoon seriously

 

[Mamoon]

5 years is a long time in cricket. More than Umar’s demise, Rohit’s rise as a top class opener deserves more attention.

From 2007 to 2013, he was hardly better than Umar of today, and whoever was behind the decision to make him open deserves a lot of credit. Right up there with the decision to make Dilshan open for Sri Lanka after 10 years of mediocrity in the middle-over.

Of course Rohit deserves a lot of credit for the transformation as well, he has improved his temperament leaps and bounds.

Maybe Umar could have been tried as opener 5-6 years back, was surely a better bet than Imran Farhat and a few others, but that ship has sailed now. I don’t think he would have transformed like Rohit, but it could have saved his career.

People digging up old posts and making fun of them should understand the timing, context and the reason(s) behind those posts. No one can predict the future, including me, except that Pakistan cricket will remain mediocre for a long, long time.

 

[Hitman]

If Rohit Sharma had done all the antics Umar did and had the same ill discipline, he wouldn't be selected again. Kambli, Sreesanth are some examples

The guy had the audacity of faking an injury just because his older brother wasn't picked in the playing 11, that too during the infancy of his career. That itself would have made the BCCI kick him out permanently.

 

[Bhaijaan]

5 years is a long time in cricket. More than Umar’s demise, Rohit’s rise as a top class opener deserves more attention.

From 2007 to 2013, he was hardly better than Umar of today, and whoever was behind the decision to make him open deserves a lot of credit. Right up there with the decision to make Dilshan open for Sri Lanka after 10 years of mediocrity in the middle-over.

Of course Rohit deserves a lot of credit for the transformation as well, he has improved his temperament leaps and bounds.

Maybe Umar could have been tried as opener 5-6 years back, was surely a better bet than Imran Farhat and a few others, but that ship has sailed now. I don’t think he would have transformed like Rohit, but it could have saved his career.

People digging up old posts and making fun of them should understand the timing, context and the reason(s) behind those posts. No one can predict the future, including me, except that Pakistan cricket will remain mediocre for a long, long time.

Wasn’t making fun of you bro. Happens to the best of us. Let’s look at it and laugh it off. You defended Umar Akmal with some passion on this thread in your early days. You were spamming it pretty much

 

[RyanRyan10]

If Umar played for India or any other team, he'd be the best batsman in the world right now.

Now he would struggle to make it to any top Ranji side and won't even be having an IPL contract

On the other hand Rohit would be the best of odi batsman of the most of FMs

 

[RyanRyan10]

Kohli & Rohit have got the blessings of Umar Akmal

Hopefully Rahul also benefits from that

Also need Umar Akmal vs Shaw/Gill threads so that they can also blessed from the Lord

 

[Tyler Durden]

Kohli & Rohit have got the blessings of Umar Akmal

Hopefully Rahul also benefits from that

Also need Umar Akmal vs Shaw/Gill threads so that they can also blessed from the Lord

Is there a Rahul vs Akmal thread?

 

[RyanRyan10]

Is there a Rahul vs Akmal thread?

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?275002-KL-Rahul-vs-Umar-Akmal

 

[Mp812]

Umar akmal still plays? Haven't seen him long time on field

 

[spiderreddy]

What happened to Umar akmal ? Can he get a chance after the WC is over ?

 

[fanofcricket4life]

Jokes aside, I think Umar Akmal is clearly the better player.

No bias.

What do you think of this now?

 

[Mueez]

Kohli vs Akmal...............that thread made Kohlis career take off like a smooth plane.
I guess time will tell where this thread takes Rohits career

Lol so true )

 

[jnaveen1980]

Is there a thread Umar Akmal vs Donald Trump exists? i won't be surprised if it does.

 

[xbronze]

Umar Akmal is still miles ahead of Ghambir and Shewag.

Umar Akmal is miles ahead of Sehwag? Okay, whatever makes you happy.

 

[xbronze]

5 years is a long time in cricket. More than Umar’s demise, Rohit’s rise as a top class opener deserves more attention.

From 2007 to 2013, he was hardly better than Umar of today, and whoever was behind the decision to make him open deserves a lot of credit. Right up there with the decision to make Dilshan open for Sri Lanka after 10 years of mediocrity in the middle-over.

Of course Rohit deserves a lot of credit for the transformation as well, he has improved his temperament leaps and bounds.

Maybe Umar could have been tried as opener 5-6 years back, was surely a better bet than Imran Farhat and a few others, but that ship has sailed now. I don’t think he would have transformed like Rohit, but it could have saved his career.

People digging up old posts and making fun of them should understand the timing, context and the reason(s) behind those posts. No one can predict the future, including me, except that Pakistan cricket will remain mediocre for a long, long time.

While I agree with your post that no one can predict the future, some threads are purely laughable and just a result of national pride.

I remember thread upon thread here on PP on Ahmed Shehzad vs Kohli where Pak fans including some very respectable contributors went gaga about Shehzad and how much better he is than Kohli and how Kohli should learn from Shehzad and how Kohli's career will derail whereas how Shehzad shall become the next Tendulkar or Lara of world cricket.

Btw, just to make this post I had to think real hard to recall his name as some 'sezad', and then too decided to use google search to get the correct name/spelling of Ahmed Shehzad (searched 'sezad pakistan cricketer').

Whats my point? That, Shehzad has gone so far and deep into oblivion today, in the consciousness of cricket fans (atleast non Pakistani cricket fans. Wont be surprised, if many Pakistan fans still consider Ahmed Shehzad 10 times better than Kohli, and strongly rebut this post of mine. That is what blind nationalism does to a rational cricketing mind, which in turn results in laughable threads)

 

[Titan24]

Change in batting position was the game changer for Rohit.

 

[Canistani Hero]

Umar Akmal should be made into an opener, he could really reinvent himself as a batsman. Majority of his false shots would be boundaries during the powerplay

 

[xbronze]

If Rohit Sharma had done all the antics Umar did and had the same ill discipline, he wouldn't be selected again. Kambli, Sreesanth are some examples

Agree 100%. Shining examples of how attitude and temperament is crucial in sports. Coaches must make is a point to drill the importance of these traits and mentor their wards to imbibe these virtues within their personalities.

That coupled with hard work and sound techniques imbibed into young cricketers by the coaches will build a great foundation.

 

[Chokli]

Umar Akmal should open

1.Umar Akmal
2.Imam Ul Haq
3.Babar Azam
4.Haris Sohail
5.Mohammad Rizwan (c) (wk)
6.Saud Shakeel
7.Aamir Yamin
8.Shadab Khan
9.Mohammad Amir
10.Shaheen Afridi
11.Zafar Gohar

 

[PetroDollars]

umar akmal was probably the most talented batsmen i had seen when he broke iun the team, however his poor dismiss wasnt his own fault, yes he was to blame partially but alot of it had to do with the managment too.

he was by far the best batsmen in our team yet he came in at 6 and sometimes even 7 while hafeez, malik and noboddys got to bat ahead of him and got chance after chance, in the end he lost it mentally and we lost a gem of a talent, i still belive even today bar barber azam he would still be our best batsmen.

This is way pakistan team is in this position, managment is a mess and they dont look at talent, its all about sifarishi, family and friendship and you get in the team.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

This thread is exactly why KL Rahul should not be written off. It took 6 years for Rohit Sharma to turn from what many people called a "hack" to an ODI beast.

 

[dravidthewall]

This comparision is proof that if any ordinary cricker being compared with umar akmal will turn gaint.

 

[Slog]

Jokes aside, I think Umar Akmal is clearly the better player.

No bias.

Damn damn damn.

Haha. Man how times change

I thought in early 2000s Yasir Hameed would be great

 

[AdamM97]

This thread looks like jokes now but in all honesty, Umar Akmal looked like a gem back in the days.

Maybe he got spoiled by the early fame he got or maybe we Pakistani fans are just too quick to call anyone who looks decent a future ATG.

 

[hitthestump]

Umar Akmal should be made into an opener, he could really reinvent himself as a batsman. Majority of his false shots would be boundaries during the powerplay

You may be joking but i've thought this for a long time. He'd be way less of a liability as an opener and surely more productive as a batsman.