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S Africa v Pakistan | 2015 WC | Group B 29th Match | 7th March '15 | Auckland | Pakistan innings

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Arsal_AK said:
No that is not how it works.

When you come at the crease your partner should make life easy for rather than dwad batting everthing.

Umar got out trying to accelerate otherwise we wer going nowhere.
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sorry i don't agree..misbah did start to pick up..can't blame misbah for younis, maqsood and akmal's wickets.
 
Shafi said:
We need a big clean up after this World Cup. Kick out Jamshed, Team man, Shehzad, Akmal, Maqsood, Bhatti, Adil and unfit Irfan
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Relax. Adil did nothing he hasn't got a chance to prove himself.

Maqsood needs to improve his footwork.

Bhatti is not in the team. Jamshed should never play.

Irfan is a late bloomer let him play he is not doing that bad.

Umar Akmal will never learn what to do with him is beyond human brain.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Misbah being terrible today doesn't excuse Sohaib and Umar Akmal.

But I can understand how people in Pakistan love shifting blame, so darling and golden boys of Pakpassion Umar and Sohaib will be justified for their failures.
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Oh please stop this crap.No one is saying Maqsood and Akmal are saints.

But this mess is all Misbah's fault and noones else. Sucked the momentum out of the innings and gift wrapped it to SA. End of story.
 
Our middle order Justifies misbahs stance. We need this to be a 40 over game. Throw the sink 4 3 overs and that will leave 240 ish off 40 overs
 
The rain might be a good thing for Pakistan as they might have failed to bat 50 overs! fewer over to bat for Afridi, the better.
 
So it's his fault the two played crap shots as usual to get out? Wonderful logic.
 
arsal_ak said:
no that is not how it works.

When you come at the crease your partner should make life easy for rather than dwad batting everthing.

Umar got out trying to accelerate otherwise we wer going nowhere.
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hahahah what total were we chasing down?

Are you really naive to think that umar akmal got out because of scoreboard pressure?

We are 170/4 in 37 overs. What pressure does he have? He has fantastic platform to carry on.
 
ritzy_123 said:
Relax. Adil did nothing he hasn't got a chance to prove himself.

Maqsood needs to improve his footwork.

Bhatti is not in the team. Jamshed should never play.

Irfan is a late bloomer let him play he is not doing that bad.

Umar Akmal will never learn what to do with him is beyond human brain.
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Will it help if Umar bats up the order? Do you think he has the required skill to handle the new ball? Sehwag was playing the same way down the order until he was asked to open. That helped his batting
 
Umar akmal and maqsood got out because like always everyone knows they are talented but error prone.

Their batting comes with errors..

Is the reason you always see them getting out after hitting a 4 or a 6.
 
Abdul-Jalil said:
Our middle order Justifies misbahs stance. We need this to be a 40 over game. Throw the sink 4 3 overs and that will leave 240 ish off 40 overs
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Yeah, if Pakistan get to 200 in a 40 over match then SA's target should be around 240-50 in 40 overs. Defendable I think.
 
nads_rocks said:
Maqsood tried to play aggressive from the get go he got out, Umar Akmal did the same he got out. Just because Safraz started off well don't mean the pitch is a belter. Safraz had a point to prove for his selection and to show the management what they missed out on while he was on the bench so he had to perform better than everyone and he did just that, he rushed his 50 and got run out. Shahzad played the same as he has done all World Cup. Younis had to prove his selection and his comeback again after sitting out 2 games thats why he played at a decent rate.
Misbah had to and has to play out according to the situation, we were not collapsing but if he had kept the momentum going he knows if he goes, the ones below him are nothing but walking wickets and unreliable to get to anything respectable and last out 50 overs. Maqsood proved it and so did Umar Akmal and don't be expecting anything from Afridi. Wahab is the last chance with Misbah so take Misbah's innings and runs construction out the of the equation and this team can barely manage 200 and last 40 overs.
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Have you seen the game against West Indies we didn't won that game but without Misbah Umar and Sohaib both made partnership and they played well.

I agree Misbah thinks like that but these guys don't play their natural game when they're at the crease with Misbah. That's my personal opinion I may be wrong but this is what I have noticed so many times.
 
This is a 300+ run ground, make no mistake about it.

Let's hope the rain keeps pouring as these losers will not even get 250.
 
Arsal_AK said:
Thats a horrible excuse.

If he doent rely on them then why pick them in the first place??
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I know, he needs to trust them, but maybe that's why he plays slow.

Or maybe it's just his inability to rotate the strike early in his innings.
 
Pantani said:
Yeah, if Pakistan get to 200 in a 40 over match then SA's target should be around 240-50 in 40 overs. Defendable I think.
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Pitches in NZ are different to the ones in AUS. Chasing was difficult in AUS but it has been much easier in NZ. Considering the dimensions of the ground, 300 is a par score
 
13 overs is a long time guys. Last 7 overs on this batting first they could have got 90. Umar would have been better off taking only the risk free single until 40th over. Ala Misbah. We would still have fair chance of getting 280 plus. As it is, nothing is certain now. Tahir could run through this tail
 
Ideal scenario would be five more overs. Misbah, Afridi and Wahab could get 40 or 50 in that time.
 
Watsupdoc said:
I know, he needs to trust them, but maybe that's why he plays slow.

Or maybe it's just his inability to rotate the strike early in his innings.
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When you are 41 years old, your hand eye coordination and reflexes are slower. It takes time to get your 'eye' in. ON top of that, he doesn't trust the batsmen under him. That is the reason for the tuk-tuk
 
Arsal_AK said:
Oh please stop this crap.No one is saying Maqsood and Akmal are saints.

But this mess is all Misbah's fault and noones else. Sucked the momentum out of the innings and gift wrapped it to SA. End of story.
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YOU ARE WRONG ! ..Misbah did play a few overs without rottion but he picked up the rate later, who told younis, maqsood and akmal to play rubbish shots ? sorrry your logic is pathetic...our run rate was not 3 or 4 n over..it dropped from 5.47 to 4.83 then we got it back to 5.02..then it slipped to 4.888..it was not terrible run rate to play rash shots to get out.
 
waleed88 said:
hahahah what total were we chasing down?

Are you really naive to think that umar akmal got out because of scoreboard pressure?

We are 170/4 in 37 overs. What pressure does he have? He has fantastic platform to carry on.
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:facepalm:

Did Akmal play a crap shot?? Yes.

Does that excuse Misbah's approach?? NO.

Did Misbah hand the game to SA?? Yes.

Did Misbah put undue pressure on his partners?? Yes.

Hope this helps.
 
rhony said:
Pitches in NZ are different to the ones in AUS. Chasing was difficult in AUS but it has been much easier in NZ. Considering the dimensions of the ground, 300 is a par score
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300 in 50 overs is the same as 240 in 40...

All depends on how many overs will be lost to rain.
 
Shehzad playing slow did not affect Sarfraz but some say Misbah playing slow affected Akmal and Sohaib? Lol. :))
 
rhony said:
Will it help if Umar bats up the order? Do you think he has the required skill to handle the new ball? Sehwag was playing the same way down the order until he was asked to open. That helped his batting
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I don't know Umar never learns at any stage and it's been years now so I am hopeless to be honest.
 
Misbah had 9 off 29. Since maqsood and umar came it, it has been over 5 an over , close to run a ball. 5 an over is right for the middle overs. MISBAH CAN NOT BE BLADE FOR UMAR AND MAQSOOD WICKETS.in fact I'm suee misbah would have been telling them to relax and take there time knowing the damage that can be inflicted in the last 10 overe
 
sam18696 said:
that's it? Four dot balls? You are acting like he played 15 dots when akmal got there.
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nobody asked akmal to start slogging from ball 1.

He had the time to establish himself and play a good knock..

The biggest crime is to get out after getting a start.
 
so whats the situation with the weather

any chance of match being washed out
 
Arsal_AK said:
:facepalm:

Did Akmal play a crap shot?? Yes.

Does that excuse Misbah's approach?? NO.

Did Misbah hand the game to SA?? Yes.

Did Misbah put undue pressure on his partners?? Yes.

Hope this helps.
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This! Why arent we getting this simple logic?
 
Arsal_AK said:
No that is not how it works.

When you come at the crease your partner should make life easy for rather than dwad batting everthing.

Umar got out trying to accelerate otherwise we wer going nowhere.
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Umar gets out the same way in Power Play for 2000 BC now.

The easiest excuse is lipstick shade.

The hardest is Misbah.

It just revolves around that since 2000 BC.
 
65 metere Boundaries.

SA will eat any score under 300 for breakfast on this ground.
 
"4.48 pm: Well, that didn't take too long. Firdose has just relayed to us that we are expecting play to resume in 10 minutes' time. There will only be a half-hour innings break, and the best news of all, no reduction in the overs. That is the plan for now.
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ritzy_123 said:
Have you seen the game against West Indies we didn't won that game but without Misbah Umar and Sohaib both made partnership and they played well.

I agree Misbah thinks like that but these guys don't play their natural game when they're at the crease with Misbah. That's my personal opinion I may be wrong but this is what I have noticed so many times.
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Every Misbah hater wants him to play like an Umar, Sohaib and Afridi, if he gets run out or caught out, whats left? Walking wickets, whatever Misbah does he gets blamed. When he leaves Pakistan fans will really miss Misbah's inclusion, involvement and his crucial knocks, because without him this team is incapable of surviving 40 overs and scoring over 200.
 
Well, that didn't take too long. Firdose has just relayed to us that we are expecting play to resume in 10 minutes' time. There will only be a half-hour innings break, and the best news of all, no reduction in the overs. That is the plan for now. cricinfo
 
4.48 pm: Well, that didn't take too long. Firdose has just relayed to us that we are expecting play to resume in 10 minutes' time. There will only be a half-hour innings break, and the best news of all, no reduction in the overs. That is the plan for now.
 
Bilsher007 said:
YOU ARE WRONG ! ..Misbah did play a few overs without rottion but he picked up the rate later, who told younis, maqsood and akmal to play rubbish shots ? sorrry your logic is pathetic...our run rate was not 3 or 4 n over..it dropped from 5.47 to 4.83 then we got it back to 5.02..then it slipped to 4.888..it was not terrible run rate to play rash shots to get out.
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A few??

Of course he picked it up. He cant have been batting at a SR of 35 forever.

The fact is he played a crap innings and handed the game to SA. Umar and Maqsood have nothing to do with that.

And yes the shots those thre played wre terrible. Wher have I said so otherwise??
 
lets hope rain saves pakistan its been the same old story for the batsman , really disappointed with sarf today should of carried on, Akmal maqsood and younis are the major culprits
 
To fans of Misbah, what excuse Misbah have after good start to come and score just 9 runs of 30 balls (5 overs)???
 
The departure of Akmal will be very costly potentially.

At 174-4 in 37 overs the target in a 40 over match would probably have been 260 or so under Duckworth-Lewis. You and I both know that the team wouldn't have got there in 50 overs after Afridi came in with 12 overs left.

If the rain delay is substantial, the extra wicket probably means a target of 230 in 40 overs.
 
I remember we had a decent start, then fell asleep, what happened in the middle? Quick summary?
 
Blackbradman said:
4.48 pm: Well, that didn't take too long. Firdose has just relayed to us that we are expecting play to resume in 10 minutes' time. There will only be a half-hour innings break, and the best news of all, no reduction in the overs. That is the plan for now.
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No lost overs is vital, Maqsood and Akmal throwing their wickets away would have killed us when it came to Duckworth-Lewis calculations.
 
4.48 pm: Well, that didn't take too long. Firdose has just relayed to us that we are expecting play to resume in 10 minutes' time. There will only be a half-hour innings break, and the best news of all, no reduction in the overs. That is the plan for now. Love how Milli Vanilli's "Blame It On The Rain" is belting across the ground.
 
nads_rocks said:
Every Misbah hater wants him to play like an Umar, Sohaib and Afridi, if he gets run out or caught out, whats left? Walking wickets, whatever Misbah does he gets blamed. When he leaves Pakistan fans will really miss Misbah's inclusion, involvement and his crucial knocks, because without him this team is incapable of surviving 40 overs and scoring over 200.
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I agree but that's life Misbah has to leave. Trust me still this is not excuse the way Misbah plays he is such an experienced player he should try to find a way to be aggressive in a such a way that he should be independent of other players.

I know Misbah could not be Dhoni but he should have learned this by now due to our fragile batting line up.
 
Abdul-Jalil said:
Misbah had 9 off 29. Since maqsood and umar came it, it has been over 5 an over , close to run a ball. 5 an over is right for the middle overs. MISBAH CAN NOT BE BLADE FOR UMAR AND MAQSOOD WICKETS.in fact I'm suee misbah would have been telling them to relax and take there time knowing the damage that can be inflicted in the last 10 overe
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This exactly my point in my last post that the run rate was till healthy so misbah can't be blamed for rash shots by younis, maqsood and akmal.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Umar gets out the same way in Power Play for 2000 BC now.

The easiest excuse is lipstick shade.

The hardest is Misbah.

It just revolves around that since 2000 BC.
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Again Akmal played a crap shot??

But does that excuse Misbah's horrendous inings??

Its like saying we lost the SF in Mohali because Akmal got out, completly forgetting the person at ther end is dead batting everthing.
 
Oh what

Just started watching soa

I thought it be an hour before covers would be off
 
Lol at the people saying why did we take PP. How many of you actually watch cricket and known the rules.
 
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