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Should Malik be in the plans for the 2019 WC?

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Malik recently won us a game against South Africa, despite being played out of position. He has finished countless games in the past against a wide variety of countries. As captain, he has one of the best W/L records ever in ODI's. His test average is a bit low, but that is because of his temperament back then, as a young player, he was more prone to trying to hit out.

As we can see in the stats above, he has little technical fault, in fact, less than Younis. He has been ignored and played out of position for 5 years, affecting his average.

He may not be an ATG, but I see someone who can average 45-50 easily in tests, and 45+ in ODI's, which would make him useful for Pakistan. He needs to captain our ODI team for the WC, if we are to have any chance of winning!
[MENTION=253]the Great Khan[/MENTION], [MENTION=134177]Sam18696[/MENTION]
 
MalikFan2015 said:
Malik recently won us a game against South Africa, despite being played out of position. He has finished countless games in the past against a wide variety of countries. As captain, he has one of the best W/L records ever in ODI's. His test average is a bit low, but that is because of his temperament back then, as a young player, he was more prone to trying to hit out.

As we can see in the stats above, he has little technical fault, in fact, less than Younis. He has been ignored and played out of position for 5 years, affecting his average.

He may not be an ATG, but I see someone who can average 45-50 easily in tests, and 45+ in ODI's, which would make him useful for Pakistan. He needs to captain our ODI team for the WC, if we are to have any chance of winning!

[MENTION=253]the Great Khan[/MENTION], [MENTION=134177]Sam18696[/MENTION]
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If we can get rid of him after WC I also support his inclusion in WC squad :excitedtroll
 
MalikFan2015 said:
Malik recently won us a game against South Africa, despite being played out of position. He has finished countless games in the past against a wide variety of countries. As captain, he has one of the best W/L records ever in ODI's. His test average is a bit low, but that is because of his temperament back then, as a young player, he was more prone to trying to hit out.

As we can see in the stats above, he has little technical fault, in fact, less than Younis. He has been ignored and played out of position for 5 years, affecting his average.

He may not be an ATG, but I see someone who can average 45-50 easily in tests, and 45+ in ODI's, which would make him useful for Pakistan. He needs to captain our ODI team for the WC, if we are to have any chance of winning!

[MENTION=253]the Great Khan[/MENTION], [MENTION=134177]Sam18696[/MENTION]
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your absolutely right. I was wondering when someone would finally agree with me. I mean how can people forget his massive double hundred against South Africa in South Africa? oozed class. That straight driven six off steyn is still talked about to this day. Disgraceful that he isn't in our squads!!
 
the Great Khan said:
your absolutely right. I was wondering when someone would finally agree with me. I mean how can people forget his massive double hundred against South Africa in South Africa? oozed class. That straight driven six off steyn is still talked about to this day. Disgraceful that he isn't in our squads!!
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And his 10fer that would make even Mushy and Murali bow down and worship him!!

Yes very unfair.
 
The biggest TTF in the history of Pakistan Cricket his record since 2009 is downright awful just awful yet some Jiyalas still lobby for his inclusion :najam
 
Kianig89 said:
The biggest TTF in the history of Pakistan Cricket his record since 2009 is downright awful just awful yet some Jiyalas still lobby for his inclusion :najam
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Did he or did he not smash Tsotsobe to win us a game?
Did he not win us a T20 against India?
Did he not win us the first T20 against England?

Despite being played out of position!
 
MalikFan2015 said:
Did he or did he not smash Tsotsobe to win us a game?
Did he not win us a T20 against India?
Did he not win us the first T20 against England?

Despite being played out of position!
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So he winning a couple of pyjama games in 15 years of cricketing career is a big deal :runaway:
 
Kianig89 said:
if i am not wrong he has only 1 fifty in last 5 years in ODI's #perpetuity
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Can you score a ton at number 6-7 with 10 overs left?

Check how many games he wins us, not how many he gets!

I'd take a match winning 30 over a match losing 50 like Misbah and Azhar get!
 
Sam18696 said:
[MENTION=137715]MalikFan2015[/MENTION] for how long have you been watching cricket?
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Ignore the haters [MENTION=137715]MalikFan2015[/MENTION] , their just jealous they don't have his talent and good looks. I'm just going to watch highlights of his triple hundred against Mcgrath and Warne all those years ago. Majestic innings. Do you remember the flicked six off Mcgrath? awesome shot.
 
Can someone tell me why Malik is not batting at no. 3 or 4 in Domestic? He is leading ZTBL and still hiding behind some youngsters?

Here his fans are saying he is our best batsman at no.3 or 4 in all formats
 
[MENTION=134474]Moe[/MENTION] is another convert to the cause!
[MENTION=133369]Vulcan[/MENTION], he is giving young kids a chance to improve against the new ball. Selfless player!
 
To all fans of Malik, I wish I could say what I really want to without getting banned!


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^^^
Or could just be that all Malik supporters dispel the same chaotic thinking and an iq of a Bafoon and hence come across as the same person?


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MalikFan2015 said:
[MENTION=134474]Moe[/MENTION] is another convert to the cause!
[MENTION=133369]Vulcan[/MENTION], he is giving young kids a chance to improve against the new ball. Selfless player!
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Let him allow management and captain to give chance to young kids in international arena and ask his fans to shut up! :inti
 
Hey Guys, Cool Down, MalikFan2015 is indeed Shoaib Malik in disguise,
He is the worst player to ever represent Pakistan in last 5 years or so in all forms of the game he had a chance to represent after selection, He's a mental midget, always crumble down under pressure, Now that we have a younger side developing under the greatness of Misbah, no need to bring back proven failures and look to the future not to the past, END!
 
DarkNight said:
Hey Guys, Cool Down, MalikFan2015 is indeed Shoaib Malik in disguise,
He is the worst player to ever represent Pakistan in last 5 years or so in all forms of the game he had a chance to represent after selection, He's a mental midget, always crumble down under pressure, Now that we have a younger side developing under the greatness of Misbah, no need to bring back proven failures and look to the future not to the past, END!
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Why the last 5 years? Why not before that?

What greatness of Misbah? We were whitewashed in the ODI's, lost to Lanka, lost the Asia Cup
 
Vulcan said:
He was watching series in which Malik was captain and Pakistan whitewashed Zimbos and Bangladesh in Pakistan :))
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His obsession with Malik is disturbing. I'm pretty sure he thinks Malik is a better all rounder than Imran Khan.
 
Why Pakistani fans like low quality cricketers like Afridi, Hafeez, Malik, Razaq???

All of them are neither world class bowler (they are all tier 2/3 bowlers) nor top class batsman (all of them are not top5 batsman)...

Alrounder means somebody who has at least one world class skill, like Imran, Wasim, Kallis, Sobers... If we don'r have any why so much fan base for such useless cricketers????
 
yasir said:
Why Pakistani fans like low quality cricketers like Afridi, Hafeez, Malik, Razaq???

All of them are neither world class bowler (they are all tier 2/3 bowlers) nor top class batsman (all of them are not top5 batsman)...

Alrounder means somebody who has at least one world class skill, like Imran, Wasim, Kallis, Sobers... If we don'r have any why so much fan base for such useless cricketers????
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Shoaib Malik is a class batsman, can hold his own in the team based on that!
 
MalikFan2015 said:
Shoaib Malik is a class batsman, can hold his own in the team based on that!
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You are right, but miss one word, 'third' class batsman...

He came back 13 times in 30 or so test. That tells his class. Malik is not international class batsman. Some how all of them have strong political lobby. They are cancer to Pakistan cricket... Pakistan fans IQ is low, they just see shinny silver and make up their mind. These player true colors can be seen in test and or when we play top team... People just remember Afridi's 1 win but forget 20 others in which he did not do anything.

Going back to these shitty players is just a step back... How long we are going to suffer from this non sense... Great teams are not made of bits and pieces allrounders, they are meant for medicore teams!!
 
MalikFan2015 said:
In tests. I'm talking about ODI's
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ODIs? Let's see... (without your precious Malik in the past two years)

West Indies in West Indies
South Africa in South Africa (Nov tour)
Asia Cup runners up
Sri Lanka in UAE

In tests
Whitewashed Australia
Sharjah test
Won a test against South Africa

Achievements with Malik in the team
India in India

Failures for the past two years:
South Africa in South Africa (Feb tour) Malik in the team
T20 World Cup 2014 Group stage exit, (Malik in the team)
Champions Trophy (Malik in the team)
Zimbabwe test
Recent tour to Sri Lanka
Australia ODI and t20

Am I forgetting something? :98:
 
Sam18696 said:
ODIs? Let's see... (without your precious Malik in the past two years)

West Indies in West Indies
South Africa in South Africa (Nov tour)
Asia Cup runners up
Sri Lanka in UAE

In tests
Whitewashed Australia
Sharjah test
Won a test against South Africa

Achievements with Malik in the team
India in India

Failures for the past two years:
South Africa in South Africa (Feb tour) Malik in the team
T20 World Cup 2014 Group stage exit, (Malik in the team)
Champions Trophy (Malik in the team)
Zimbabwe test
Recent tour to Sri Lanka
Australia ODI and t20

Am I forgetting something? :98:
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Windies are minnows, I don't count them
Lost to the only strong team in Asia Cup, India played B team
SA in SA was also B team, after they won 4-1 in Dubai!
Tukka of Hafeez
 
yasir said:
Why Pakistani fans like low quality cricketers like Afridi, Hafeez, Malik, Razaq???

All of them are neither world class bowler (they are all tier 2/3 bowlers) nor top class batsman (all of them are not top5 batsman)...

Alrounder means somebody who has at least one world class skill, like Imran, Wasim, Kallis, Sobers... If we don'r have any why so much fan base for such useless cricketers????
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Ever heard of the word "All rounder" ?
 
Sam18696 said:
India played their whole team minus Dhoni
SA played their whole team with AB, Steyn, Amla and Kallis.
Don't know what your definition of a B team is.
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Karthik was in Asia Cup. So was Hackadu and No hit
Kallis didn't play in ODI's before this, in fact his slow stuff lost them the series!
 
So Malik supporters on what basis does Malik deserve another chance??

Also list down in order for which format he should be chosen T20/ ODI's/Tests
then mention who should he replace and why

Or you want him straight in all formats as Vice Captain :shakib
 
Badsha said:
Ever heard of the word "All rounder" ?
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Maybe your definition of all rounder is different than mine... I consider a player all rounder only if he can be in the team for his primary skill. Like Wasim, Imran,Kallis were where as Hafeez,Afridi,Malik after playing for 10+ year are still no 4/5 bowler and Tula batsmen... They will never be world class in either bowling or batting, why invest in low quality? - They bring down quality of team.

Other major problem with these bits and pieces all rounder is culture, youngsters start to model them after these guys and not focus on developing primary skill... This is not good cricketing culture... Look at number of hack batsmen and bowlers we have seen in last decade or so, are we continue to invest in bits and pieces culture?? - You will never see quality from such a culture!!
 
Kianig89 said:
So Malik supporters on what basis does Malik deserve another chance??

Also list down in order for which format he should be chosen T20/ ODI's/Tests
then mention who should he replace and why

Or you want him straight in all formats as Vice Captain :shakib
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Don't insult their hero...he wants his old position back as the timid, defensive, bowling against Minnows yet missing against major ones, selecting new players but bowling and batting before them to ensure they don't get any recognition etc. Captain!
 
Malik>YK in LOIs.

It will be ridiculous if YK is in the ODI squad but Malik is sitting at home.
 
Question to all the people who visit this beautiful, lovely, and amazing thread, posted by one of the best people ever!

Would you have a player who averages 30 with the bat at a S/R OF JUST 73 and 36 with the ball

OR

A player who averages 33 with the bat at a great S/R of 38 and 36 with the ball?

Add to the fact that the 2nd player is a great captain, a team man and has always gotten the best out of whichever team he's played for.

Anyone?
 
^^^*
Deluded numpty. Malik can't play medium pace bowling on a flat pancake... His technique is pathetic... You are coming across a pretty pathetic now


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Hafeez is better than Malik at everything. Malik is garbage, he's done.

Easily among the three worst Pak cricketers of recent past along with Amin and Farhat.
 
These people come out with this rubbish. Hafeez is ten times the cricketer Malik will ever be. This is not 2008 folks its 2014. Have you seen Maliks record since 08?
 
saeed-sohail said:
These people come out with this rubbish. Hafeez is ten times the cricketer Malik will ever be. This is not 2008 folks its 2014. Have you seen Maliks record since 08?
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Hafeez at his peak was better than Malik at his peak too. Hafeez is just a better Shoaib Malik.
 
Bilal7 said:
Hafeez at his peak was better than Malik at his peak too. Hafeez is just a better Shoaib Malik.
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Hafeez is miles better as a bowler. When did Malik ever rank amongst top ten bowlers? As for batting malik was decent years ago and despite mental issues with Hafeez in his batting he is streets ahead of Malik of 09 onwards.
 
Agreed. Is there any argument for Malik's inclusion in the team?
 
Any stand out Hafeez innings? You can never remember a stand out Hafeez knock.

He's the Pakistan version of Ravi Jadeja.
 
There is two types of players.

Player 1* A consistent player with good average but choke in under pressure especially in big tournament.

Player 2* Non-consistent player with poor average, but perform in under pressure in big tournament


There is the reason why people still pick Inzimam over Mohammad Yousuf.
 
MalikMohsin said:
There is two types of players.

Player 1* A consistent player with good average but choke in under pressure especially in big tournament.

Player 2* Non-consistent player with poor average, but perform in under pressure in big tournament


There is the reason why people still pick Inzimam over Mohammad Yousuf.
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:facepalm:

Inzamam had a great average and was quite consistent. You Malik fans are losing it.
 
Bilal7 said:
:facepalm:

Inzamam had a great average and was quite consistent. You Malik fans are losing it.
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Inzimam had great average judging by his long career. But he wasn't consistent. I am big fan of Inzimam. We never expected him to perform when he didn't have to. As soon as the team is in under pressure, we would always count on Inzimam to rescue. In the past people did compain about his lack of consistent performance. He wasn't consistent enough but he was always there when the team needed him even in under pressure which most of current players in 11 squad team would choke.

We are not talking about Shoaib Malik. We are talking about two types of players; Inzimam was the other type performed when mattered the most.

saeed-sohail said:
Hafeez and Misbah were better performers on the day.
If we use your criteria then Inzi must have been rubbish considering how he failed in 1996 QF.
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Inzimam had played five WC at least. In five WC, Inzimam had success in two WCs only, WC 92 and WC 99 except final.

Younus Khan has been consistent in his whole career. Check out his performance in WC 2003, 2007 and WC 2011. He might get selected for another WC 2015. Even in Champion Trophy, he had failed in almost every matches.

Hafeez and Ahmed Shehzad are no different either. When the situation gets tough, they would be proned to choke like Misbah.
 
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Malik doesn't perform under pressure. He never performs. Please stop using silly justifications to make him seem like a good player when he isn't.

We are not talking about Shoaib Malik.
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You should be since this is a thread about him.
 
MalikMohsin said:
Inzimam had great average judging by his long career. But he wasn't consistent. I am big fan of Inzimam. We never expected him to perform when he didn't have to. As soon as the team is in under pressure, we would always count on Inzimam to rescue. In the past people did compain about his lack of consistent performance. He wasn't consistent enough but he was always there when the team needed him even in under pressure which most of current players in 11 squad team would choke.

We are not talking about Shoaib Malik. We are talking about two types of players; Inzimam was the other type performed when mattered the most.



Inzimam had played five WC at least. In five WC, Inzimam had success in two WCs only, WC 92 and WC 99 except final.

Younus Khan has been consistent in his whole career. Check out his performance in WC 2003, 2007 and WC 2011. He might get selected for another WC 2015. Even in Champion Trophy, he had failed in almost every matches.

Hafeez and Ahmed Shehzad are no different either. When the situation gets tough, they would be proned to choke like Misbah.
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Where does YK come into this debate. We are discussing Malik and truth is he a never been and never will be.
 
Hafeez was the reason we weren't chasing 320 in mohali. After the start India had it was Hafeez who choked them and got rid of Gambhir. He came on at India 63/0 after 7 and bowled 10 overs for 40. Was that not pressure?
 
saeed-sohail said:
Where does YK come into this debate. We are discussing Malik and truth is he a never been and never will be.
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Younus Khan is also consistent player, yet he is choker in under pressure situation. History attests to that.

We are talking two types of players;

A player who consistently perform but choke in under pressure.
A player who is not consistent but perform in under pressure.

saeed-sohail said:
Hafeez was the reason we weren't chasing 320 in mohali. After the start India had it was Hafeez who choked them and got rid of Gambhir. He came on at India 63/0 after 7 and bowled 10 overs for 40. Was that not pressure?
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Younus, Hafeez and Misbah played in the very same match.

Pakistan failed to chase 260 despite of so-called consistent players like Younus Khan, Misbah, Hafeez and Asad Shafique in the team. They have one thing in common and that is they are choker.
 
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Bilal7 said:
Malik doesn't perform under pressure. He never performs.Please stop using silly justifications to make him seem like a good player when he isn't.


You should be since this is a thread about him.
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His performance in International league begs to differ on both accounts. He did perform especially in under pressure. Check out semi final of Champion League 2014. Check out the final match of Carribean Premier League.

Since Shoaib Malik is no longer playing for Pakistan. To make his case on current form is to judge by the tournament he is currently playing. That's the best we can do about this.

That being said talking about Shoaib Malik is pointless considering he is not part of WC 2015 nor he is amongst the favorite for the WC 2015.

Younus Khan, Asad Shafique, Misbah and Hafeez; they will be playing for WC 2015.
 
MalikFan2015 said:
Time to call Shoaib into the test squad to replace Hafeez at the top of the order and offer a useful option
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Good Idea! Kiwis will be happy if Pakistan include Malik. Free wicket for them and they don't have to work hard for it! :))

By the way where is Shoaib Mirza? Not playing domestic after watching pitch with grass and overcast conditions? :))
 
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