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Should Malik be in the plans for the 2019 WC?

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PAKISTANI BATSMEN AGAINST SA in tests

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Anwaar said:
PAKISTANI BATSMEN AGAINST SA in tests

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A high average against one opposition doesn't make you a good batsman.

iHammad said:
Sad to see Malik not selected in the Test squad.
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Really? Which Malik? Salim Malik is still serving his ban and no other Malik is fit enough for test cricket.

Shoaib Malik averages 29 in first class cricket and the tests he played in England were his swan song as far as test cricket is concerned. He's just not good enough.

ODI cricket no player because he is a handy player with as much as talent as Hafeez and lots more brains.
 
zimran72 said:
A high average against one opposition doesn't make you a good batsman.
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Coincidently we are playing the same opposition.
And this is one of toughest opposition for a while.


Malik's high average also breaks the myth that he only performs against India (curr #1) and SL.
 
Poison said:
:))) Didn't we play 10 ODI's against Zim and BD under Malik? Take those out please :inti
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This is the main stat that assures me that Malik is not a fixer.
As these are the matches when fixers would make a lot of money specially when we were 3-0 or 4-0 up in a series.

I don't want Malik to play if he is not in form and I think it is better for him if he is not part of the team currently as he can get into form without worrying about team politics and problems.

Another thing YK and MY are likely to retire in 2 years maybe even after the world cup so the middle order will need someone with experience and Malik being a fit person and not that old he could still play for 5-6 years but him not being part of the world cup will hurt our chances.
 
Malik and Tests are two words which should never be spoken in the same sentence...unless it is a drug test etc. :-)

In ODIs, he deserved his place instead of YK (even though he scored two 50's, he was rather slow) and off course Malik has a much superior ODI record in Asia...outside Asia, he is a walking wicket and I don't need to look at any stats to confirm that!

Anwaar lagaay raho
 
Anwaar said:
Made double in first and 50 balls 50 in 2nd, so you calling for his inclusion now?
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I can speak for myself when I say this

But Malik needs to play in LOIs in Asia.

In test format and in conditions like we had in England, Australia and RSA he can take a break and go watch some tennis
 
*sallu* said:
I can speak for myself when I say this

But Malik needs to play in LOIs in Asia.

In test format and in conditions like we had in England, Australia and RSA he can take a break and go watch some tennis
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I am confused as "someone" wanted him to play 4 days domestic games?

So you agree that Malik shouldn't be playing QeA Trophy?
 
Monsee said:
Malik and Tests are two words which should never be spoken in the same sentence...unless it is a drug test etc. :-)
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:))
Hi Monsee, how are you? By the way, congrats .... for becoming a proud dad again! Hope you didn't name your child Salman Akhtar Mian! :)

Monsee said:
In ODIs, he deserved his place instead of YK (even though he scored two 50's, he was rather slow) and off course Malik has a much superior ODI record in Asia...outside Asia, he is a walking wicket and I don't need to look at any stats to confirm that!
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Yes, he may deserve place instead of YK but even YK does not deserve a place in ODI team. Malik has not done anything od the late.... specially since his last 100. With so many failures, he shouldn't be let any where close to the team.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...an;template=results;type=batting;view=innings


http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...8;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting
 
Anwaar said:
I am confused as "someone" wanted him to play 4 days domestic games?

So you agree that Malik shouldn't be playing QeA Trophy?
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Ofcourse he should be.

But his performance in QeA shouldn't be considered a major factor (but still should be taken into account) in selecting him, because that is 4 day cricket and World cup is one day cricket. Different formats all together.

If for example he fails miserably, he shouldn't be selected for WC. But really hes already got about 250 runs in 1 single game so he should just use the QeA for match practice and trying to work on his game
 
*sallu* said:
Ofcourse he should be.

But his performance in QeA shouldn't be considered a major factor (but still should be taken into account) in selecting him, because that is 4 day cricket and World cup is one day cricket. Different formats all together.

If for example he fails miserably, he shouldn't be selected for WC. But really hes already got about 250 runs in 1 single game so he should just use the QeA for match practice and trying to work on his game
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You are really confused.
 
Why is he keeping such a low profile? Why can't he talk about his plans to return into the team? He pretty much knows ICC has erected a big wall between him and Pak national squad.
 
Loo Shoib Malik has higher IQ level than Afridi

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Another reason why Afridi shouldn't be captain :D
 
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the funiest pak ad ever
 
Decipher said:
Why is he keeping such a low profile? Why can't he talk about his plans to return into the team? He pretty much knows ICC has erected a big wall between him and Pak national squad.
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No, do you read the news? they've erected a wall between these guys and the Pak National squad: Salman Butt, Mohammad Amer, Mohammad Asif, Kamran Akmal and Danish Kaneria, all are under match-fixing suspicion.

Malik was only ever dropped for poor form, the chief selector said it as did Aftab Gul.
 
Decipher said:
Why is he keeping such a low profile? Why can't he talk about his plans to return into the team? He pretty much knows ICC has erected a big wall between him and Pak national squad.
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you posted this desire of yours second time.

Time to prove it!

I am sure you can not.
 
Yes, bring back Malik Bradman. The savior of Pakistan cricket's future.
 
ODI:

Not a captian but as a player.

Ahmad Shehzad
Mohd Hafeez
Younus Khan
Fawad Alam
Umer Akmal
Shoaib Malik
Shahid Afridi
Abdul Razaq
Umer Gul
Mohd Aamer
Shoaib Akhtar
 
Decipher said:
Why is he keeping such a low profile? Why can't he talk about his plans to return into the team? He pretty much knows ICC has erected a big wall between him and Pak national squad.
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The team undermined his captaincy, took oath take against him, the media ridiculed him, PCB treated him worse, and also forced him to resign from the captaincy, and if you only believe Younus, he has confirmed most of them in interview.

Malik never complained, and always kept his mouth shut for the sake of nation. I don't think he has any reason to keep such a low profile when he is willing to handle humiliation and move on for the sake of nation. You, nice try!
 
MalikMohsin said:
The team undermined his captaincy, took oath take against him, the media ridiculed him, PCB treated him worse, and also forced him to resign from the captaincy, and if you only believe Younus, he has confirmed most of them in interview.

Malik never complained, and always kept his mouth shut for the sake of nation. I don't think he has any reason to keep such a low profile when he is willing to handle humiliation and move on for the sake of nation. You, nice try!
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In fact he expressed his disappointment for being dropped from ODI n T20 based on his performance in tests.
 
MalikMohsin said:
The team undermined his captaincy, took oath take against him, the media ridiculed him, PCB treated him worse, and also forced him to resign from the captaincy, and if you only believe Younus, he has confirmed most of them in interview.
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When did this happen? I want to see these interviews.

Malik never complained, and always kept his mouth shut for the sake of nation. I don't think he has any reason to keep such a low profile when he is willing to handle humiliation and move on for the sake of nation. You, nice try!
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Malik is smarter than that. He is not interested in getting involved in controversies. He'd rather keep himself busy with his multiple wives in India. I'm just sayin'.:malik
 
zimran72 said:
When did this happen? I want to see these interviews.



Malik is smarter than that. He is not interested in getting involved in controversies. He'd rather keep himself busy with his multiple wives in India. I'm just sayin'.:malik
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???? kitni hain.
 
Anwaar said:
you posted this desire of yours second time.

Time to prove it!

I am sure you can not.
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MalikMohsin said:
The team undermined his captaincy, took oath take against him, the media ridiculed him, PCB treated him worse, and also forced him to resign from the captaincy, and if you only believe Younus, he has confirmed most of them in interview.

Malik never complained, and always kept his mouth shut for the sake of nation. I don't think he has any reason to keep such a low profile when he is willing to handle humiliation and move on for the sake of nation. You, nice try!
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:)
Hopefully Malik will look into doing something else to make a living after ASCU's news today.

Personally, I don't have anything against Malik and he was once my favorite player to captain the team (right after Inzi's exit) but he turned out to be a bigger fool than I thought for choosing a slippery slope instead of playing with honesty and integrity.
And again, its not only Malik... we are genetically just not so smart of a people..... we are "kachay chores" when it comes to short cuts.

But since we are also worshipers of personalities and not acts, principles and laws, I am sure nothing will ever convince you to change your stance on Malik. :) enjoy your right

On the other hand, I am thankful to Mr Giles Clarke's favor for not barring the entire Pakistan cricket team from world cup due to the acts of few ... including Mr Malik.
 
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Decipher said:
:)
Hopefully Malik will look into doing something else to make a living after ASCU's news today.
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Where is link where ICC/PCB/ASCU accused Malik of any wrong doing?
(This issue is not related to our liking/disliking of Malik or any other player. If you are accusing him then you have to prove it...and stop bluffing)

You losing credibility with every post....:ibutt
 
Anwaar said:
Where is link where ICC/PCB/ASCU accused Malik of any wrong doing?
(This issue is not related to our liking/disliking of Malik or any other player. If you are accusing him then you have to prove it...and stop bluffing)

You losing credibility with every post....:ibutt
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I truly and honestly wish u have the last laugh. Seriously, it will be a pleasant surprise and I will be pleased as a pie.
 
Decipher said:
I will repeat your words "Here you go" once Pakistan's WC squad is "approved" and announced. :)
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This isn't second grade dude. lol.

you clearly didn't read the article yourself before suggesting me to look it up.

hopefully you'll decipher articles better next time. :yk
 
:) here is another second grader talking gibberish,

Imran Khan: "There is no doubt that our players have at some point done match-fixing. It's also true that our board has prevented a complete investigation into match-fixing to save itself from embarrassment and to save itself."

Kindly get your crowed and moan for proofs.
 
MALIK -

T20 - BRILLIANT
TESTS - USELESS
ODI - Hafeez or Malik for the opening slot alongside :kami
 
i hv heard he scored double century in Q trophy.
i hope he is gonna get back in worldcup as i firmly beleive he could be our best batsman in subcontinent
 
faysal9 said:
i hv heard he scored double century in Q trophy.
i hope he is gonna get back in worldcup as i firmly beleive he could be our best batsman in subcontinent
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Have you seen the quality of the bowling he is facing?
 
farazaidi said:
LOL ... none of these were bowling to him in that double century. And for that matter, Faisalabad didnt had a single known bowler.
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these r 4 day games and if you have 16 teams playing..it's impossible to have 3 quality bowlers per team...so in any case....Domestic Runs and Wickets are meaningless...as batsmen can always score of "other" bowlers and ok bowlers can always take tons of wickets of not so alert batsmen...
 
Malik for odi's??? Provlem is that he plays the short ball so badly, even when it's against medium pace trundlers (refer to kiwi series in UAE)..

Bowlers around the world are awake to it so I wouldn't place much hope on Malik in any format of the game.
 
Anwaar said:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3154098&postcount=47
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This is the same absurd logic you applied during the England tour, I.E. If malik does better then the other youngsters then he's had a succesful tour!!

Apart from Inzy and Moyo, we haven't had a class odi player in 7 years but does that mean we stick with mediocrity??
Ofcourse not! We move on from the tried and tested rubbish, such as Farhat and Malik and look to bring in younger, talented players who can become the next moyo or inzy!!!

With respect to experience within the odi team, we already have yk and moyo in the present odi lineups so there is no justification whatsoever for having Malik in the side...
 
I am so happy he is no longer part of the team....

His negativity and lack of people skills filter through the entire team

Let's hope he gets an Indian visa!
 
Anwaar said:
these r 4 day games and if you have 16 teams playing..it's impossible to have 3 quality bowlers per team...so in any case....Domestic Runs and Wickets are meaningless...as batsmen can always score of "other" bowlers and ok bowlers can always take tons of wickets of not so alert batsmen...
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Totally agreed..... Ignore these stats they do not matter anymore!
 
saeed-sohail said:
Must have missed it man,Have been awake for best part of 48 hours.
You know I dont rate Malik but I wont accept he is a fixer just on rumours.
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I am still waiting for you to respond to Malik's 250 in first match...
You said something about if he hit 2 100 even against quetta ...
 
Anwaar said:
I am still waiting for you to respond to Malik's 250 in first match...
You said something about if he hit 2 100 even against quetta ...
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Yes performances in FC cricket are most important and him getting some runs can only be good for him.As for me having him in test side not yet.He is fighting for a middle order place with Umar/Asad/Fawad.Umar is under pressure but Asad is next in line after a good FC season.Malik should keep performing and time will come when he will get a recall.
I said he should be playing FC cricket to regain his form and if he scores then he will have a good chance of a comeback.
 
Wow Malik score 200 against a Faisalabad and now he should be recalled?

Pakistans domestic game is **** poor for starters and am sure if he was picked for the new zealand tour he would probably be found wanting again against half decent fast bowlers and a bit of seam movement.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Wow Malik score 200 against a Faisalabad and now he should be recalled?

Pakistans domestic game is **** poor for starters and am sure if he was picked for the new zealand tour he would probably be found wanting again against half decent fast bowlers and a bit of seam movement.
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But thats the only thing a player can do after getting dropped.I agree FC structure is poor with too many teams in it.We need a regional 4 day tournament with 6 teams on round robin league basis.
 
MR__KHAN__JI said:
HS of 73 with 3 not outs.....
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Is it a good thing or a bad thing to remain not out?

MR__KHAN__JI said:
Anyway after 54 test inings I expect more than the below.... for a test player!
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There are few pages in this thread dedicated to this issue only and comparing Malik's Career to YK's...

I can convey the exact page# but you better discover yourself.
 
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Amjid Javed said:
Wow Malik score 200 against a Faisalabad and now he should be recalled?
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Malik should not have been dropped first place.


Amjid Javed said:
Pakistans domestic game is **** poor for starters and am sure
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I agree thats why I don't want players of Malik's stature to play FC as it got no bearing on player's skills improvement plus it also not related to squad selection... :ibutt :mohsin

Unfortunately SS and Sallu were condemning Malik for not playing first couple of matches.
 
Anwaar said:
Malik should not have been dropped first place.




I agree thats why I don't want players of Malik's stature to play FC as it got no bearing on player's skills improvement plus it also not related to squad selection... :ibutt :mohsin

Unfortunately SS and Sallu were condemning Malik for not playing first couple of matches.
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Are you out of your mind? After the showing he had in England the guy should have been captain I suppose.


Malik's stature? What is Malik's stature? A s*** player as far as first class cricket is concerned so obviously he shouldn't be playing that version of the game. The way you worship Malik is sickening because you make him sound like Tendulkar whereas the guy isn't even good enough to lace Tendulkar's boots.
 
Anwaar said:
Malik should not have been dropped first place.




I agree thats why I don't want players of Malik's stature to play FC as it got no bearing on player's skills improvement plus it also not related to squad selection... :ibutt :mohsin

Unfortunately SS and Sallu were condemning Malik for not playing first couple of matches.
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Why exactly shouldnt he have been dropped? He was given chances in england and failed! Plain and simple!

And please no of this comparison crap with other players!

Plain and simple he was main senior batsmen on UK tour and failed to lead by example!

The loser should stick to HK6s cricket!
 
zimran72 said:
Are you out of your mind? After the showing he had in England the guy should have been captain I suppose.


Malik's stature? What is Malik's stature? A s*** player as far as first class cricket is concerned so obviously he shouldn't be playing that version of the game. The way you worship Malik is sickening because you make him sound like Tendulkar whereas the guy isn't even good enough to lace Ravindra Jadeja's boots.
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Amended.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Why exactly shouldnt he have been dropped? He was given chances in england and failed! Plain and simple!

And please no of this comparison crap with other players!

Plain and simple he was main senior batsmen on UK tour and failed to lead by example!

The loser should stick to HK6s cricket!
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Harsh but true.
 
Of course, when Younis Khan was batting, everything other than remaining not out till the end was considered to be a failure because hes a senior player and responsibility is on him by anwaar

But when it comes to Malik, all the responsibility and seniority crap is ignored and a comparison table is drawn up
 
*sallu* said:
Of course, when Younis Khan was batting, everything other than remaining not out till the end was considered to be a failure because hes a senior player and responsibility is on him by anwaar

But when it comes to Malik, all the responsibility and seniority crap is ignored and a comparison table is drawn up
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Because Malik is more consistent.YK scores a 100 every fourth test and a 50 every 3rd test meaning he fails in other two.Malik scores 20/30 evey other game proving he is more consistent.
 
Anwaar said:
these r 4 day games and if you have 16 teams playing..it's impossible to have 3 quality bowlers per team...so in any case....Domestic Runs and Wickets are meaningless...as batsmen can always score of "other" bowlers and ok bowlers can always take tons of wickets of not so alert batsmen...
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Lol again. I said not a single known bowler and you are asking for 3.

And what is the point of posting Amir & Asif icons there? none of them were playing in that game.

As far his performance in QA trophy is concerned, I challenge him to maintain his form against WAPDA, SNGPL, HBL, ZTBL, NBP. I challenge you Malik!! :ibutt

I bet he'll miss atleast 2-3 games from that. Any takers?
 
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Anwaar said:
Is it a good thing or a bad thing to remain not out?



There are few pages in this thread dedicated to this issue only and comparing Malik's Career to YK's...

I can convey the exact page# but you better discover yourself.
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I was merely pointing out the limitation of your stat... not saying it wasnt a good stat or making a conclusion based on that....

I WAS however making a conlcusion based on these stats....

After 54 test inings I expect more than the below.... for a test player!

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3063968&postcount=30

(All innings since :yk made his debut in Feb 2000)

Nothing I have read so far overcomes this flaw.....
 
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oops anotehr hundred from yk..looks like malik will have to score a million to catch up now..lol..

seriously though im surprised this flash in the pan has any fans still left...has a very small heart and cant tough it out as evidenced in england where a newbie called azhar ali made this senior player look like a gully ka dundaybaaz!!
 
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