Shoaib Malik Support & Performance Watch

[saeed-sohail]

Fixed

Lol.

 

[zimran72]

No they are of same quality;
we say in Urdu, "Unees, Bees ka farq hay"

Yeh banda waqai pagal ho gaya hai...

 

[UP]

Mr. Anwaar, please reply to post # 1530.

Thank You.

 

[zimran72]

I honestly don't think any of the sensible posters should waste their time here any longer. Anwaar is on a payroll it seems and he is definitely not going to change his mind.

 

[UP]

Yeh banda waqai pagal ho gaya hai...

Zimran - read post # 1510.

 

[W63L35]

No they are of same quality;
we say in Urdu, "Unees, Bees ka farq hay"

uneees: 51.18
beeees: 33.45

 

[Black Zero]

To judge whether a batsman is the best, simply the average is not good enough

You have to look at
(i) The average
(ii) Number of runs scored (eg Yasir Arafat's 47 average isn't enough to judge him at the 9th best batsman of all time because he has one 1 match)
(iii) The number of 100s
(iv) No of Match winning innings
(v) Consistency
(vi) Success against different oppositions etc etc etc

Which is why Malik's average of 40 against South Africa based on just 211 runs is not fair to judge his performance against them yet because sample is too sample. Furthermore he hasn't played a single big innings which clearly shows average is magnified because of not outs

Most elements are redundant
As 100s are already included in average and match winning innings also include in average and possibly also in number of 100s and also in match winning innings...

Parameters must be mutually independent.

 

[zimran72]

Mr. Anwaar, please reply to post # 1530.

Thank You.

Mr. Paracha,

Mr. Anwaar only responds to selective posts and it is unfortunate he has ignored your post. It must be because you have asked him a sensible question and put him on the spot and he is unable to respond therefore he thought it was best he ignored you.

For details and stats please refer to previous posts over the past 20 pages in this thread.

Thank you.

 

[Black Zero]

uneees: 51.18
beeees: 33.45

You are not taking notice, people don't believe in averages man!.

 

[Black Zero]

Mr. Paracha,

Mr. Anwaar only responds to selective posts and it is unfortunate he has ignored your post. It must be because you have asked him a sensible question and put him on the spot and he is unable to respond therefore he thought it was best he ignored you.

For details and stats please refer to previous posts over the past 20 pages in this thread.

Thank you.

He knows the reason.

 

[saeed-sohail]

I honestly don't think any of the sensible posters should waste their time here any longer. Anwaar is on a payroll it seems and he is definitely not going to change his mind.

Its good fun on Eid night after a boring day spent with uncles and aunties.

 

[W63L35]

You are not taking notice, people don't believe in averages man!.

Just like you don't beleive in 28 failures in a row and still insisting that he should be integral part of the team?

 

[UP]

He knows the reason.

I don't know the reason.

Please explain.

 

[W63L35]

You are not taking notice, people don't believe in averages man!.

Just like you don't beleive in 28 failures in a row and still insisting that he should be integral part of the team?

Let me ask you the question one more time;

In how many matches do you think a batsmen has to fail before you decide... enough is enough?

 

[zimran72]

Its good fun on Eid night after a boring day spent with uncles and aunties.

Mein distract hora hoon. Essay pey kaam karna hai

 

[saeed-sohail]

Mein distract hora hoon. Essay pey kaam karna hai

You go and complete your essay this thread is in safe hands.

 

[Black Zero]

That is last 30 matches .... which different than the perspective I am presenting above. I am showing that he has failed in 28 innings in a row.

It's not reasonable to jumble all the formats together...

In last 10 T20I he averages close to his career average
and few points drop in last 10 ODIs and Tests.

Nothing to be worried about...

Plus you have added so many in failures where he did really well...

to point out couple
his 58 against Aus in Aus
Also when he was second highest against Eng.

 

[Black Zero]

You go and complete your essay this thread is in safe hands.

In any case he would get C-minus

 

[UP]

Mr. Anwaar,

Please explain the reason that you mentioned I know. To be honest, I'm not aware of any reason.

I can't go to sleep because your peer's name is not in All time World XI and it bothers me. Justice is not being done.

Can you help and tell me the reason?

 

[Black Zero]

Mr. Anwaar,

Please explain the reason that you mentioned I know. To be honest, I'm not aware of any reason.

I can't go to sleep because your peer's name is not in All time World XI and it bothers me.

Can you help and tell me the reason?

No need to go to sleep so early...its 8:30 atm...
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[UP]

No need to go to sleep so early...its 8:30 atm...

I have to work early morning and please tell me the reason.

 

[zimran72]

In any case he would get C-minus

At least I'll pass.

You, on the other hand, wouldn't even pass in a special needs school.

Heard Mcdonalds laid you off because you tried to spread Malik-ism at your work place. It's okay keep living off of welfare son.

 

[W63L35]

It's not reasonable to jumble all the formats together...

I knew, you will not have an answer!
"not reasonable"??? Just because you are saying it? Which team would have played any player (even Bradman) if he had failed in 28 innings in a row. You find me one example in 100 year of cricket history, I send you $20.

In last 10 T20I he averages close to his career average
and few points drop in last 10 ODIs and Tests.

Who cares what his average was and what the average is now.

His last 12 test innnings:
2, 32, 9, 3, 58, 19, 26, 10, 38, 9, 3, 3 = 212 runs in 6 test @ 17.66 ave.

His last 9 ODI innings:
27, 2, 26, 11, 28, 2, 36, 8, 39 = 179 runs @ 19.88 ave and 66.05 S/R

His last 7 T20 innings:
6, 7, 3, 33, 13, 21, 12 = 95 runs @ 13.57 ave and 94.05 S/R

I have been following cricket for a long time but have never seen a batsman out of form this bad... and still so many chance given!

Since September 30, 2009 ... 73 batsmen have scored 200 or more test runs. Malik is at # 70!
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

Since September 30, 2009 ... 135 batsmen have scored 150 or more ODI runs. Malik is at # 122! Yes, YK is below him and YK also does not belong in ODI team.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

Since September 30, 2009 ... 70 batsmen have scored 95 or more T20 runs. Malik is at # 68!

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

Nothing to be worried about...

You need to get worried becuase what if PCB decides that all current players (Asad Sahfiq, Umar Akmal, Azhar Ali, Misbah, YK, Fawad) will keep playing until all of them have failed for 28 innings each. If that is the case, then Malik better keep attending Tennis tournaments for next couple of years!

 

[W63L35]

) )
You can fool other people with your phony speadsheets but not me!!!!

WHERE IS ZULQARNAIN IN YOUR LIST???

 

[saeed-sohail]

I knew, you will not have an answer!
"not reasonable"??? Just because you are saying it? Which team would have played any player (even Bradman) if he had failed in 28 innings in a row. You find me one example in 100 year of cricket history, I send you $20.


Who cares what his average was and what the average is now.

His last 12 test innnings:
2, 32, 9, 3, 58, 19, 26, 10, 38, 9, 3, 3 = 212 runs in 6 test @ 17.66 ave.

His last 9 ODI innings:
27, 2, 26, 11, 28, 2, 36, 8, 39 = 179 runs @ 19.88 ave and 66.05 S/R

His last 7 T20 innings:
6, 7, 3, 33, 13, 21, 12 = 95 runs @ 13.57 ave and 94.05 S/R

I have been following cricket for a long time but have never seen a batsman out of form this bad... and still so many chance given!

Since September 30, 2009 ... 73 batsmen have scored 200 or more test runs. Malik is at # 70!
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

Since September 30, 2009 ... 135 batsmen have scored 150 or more ODI runs. Malik is at # 122! Yes, YK is below him and YK also does not belong in ODI team.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

Since September 30, 2009 ... 70 batsmen have scored 95 or more T20 runs. Malik is at # 68!

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting


You need to get worried becuase what if PCB decides that all current players (Asad Sahfiq, Umar Akmal, Azhar Ali, Misbah, YK, Fawad) will keep playing until all of them have failed for 28 innings each. If that is the case, then Malik better keep attending Tennis tournaments for next couple of years!

Great post and agree with every single point.YK did not deserve to be in ODI side but played OK in ODI series 2 50s in 5 meaning he here to stay.Malik should be a very worried man right now.

 

[Black Zero]

I knew, you will not have an answer!
"not reasonable"??? Just because you are saying it? Which team would have played any player (even Bradman) if he had failed in 28 innings in a row. You find me one example in 100 year of cricket history, I send you $20.


Who cares what his average was and what the average is now.

His last 12 test innnings:
2, 32, 9, 3, 58, 19, 26, 10, 38, 9, 3, 3 = 212 runs in 6 test @ 17.66 ave.

His last 9 ODI innings:
27, 2, 26, 11, 28, 2, 36, 8, 39 = 179 runs @ 19.88 ave and 66.05 S/R

His last 7 T20 innings:
6, 7, 3, 33, 13, 21, 12 = 95 runs @ 13.57 ave and 94.05 S/R

I have been following cricket for a long time but have never seen a batsman out of form this bad... and still so many chance given!

Since September 30, 2009 ... 73 batsmen have scored 200 or more test runs. Malik is at # 70!
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

Since September 30, 2009 ... 135 batsmen have scored 150 or more ODI runs. Malik is at # 122! Yes, YK is below him and YK also does not belong in ODI team.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

Since September 30, 2009 ... 70 batsmen have scored 95 or more T20 runs. Malik is at # 68!

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting


You need to get worried becuase what if PCB decides that all current players (Asad Sahfiq, Umar Akmal, Azhar Ali, Misbah, YK, Fawad) will keep playing until all of them have failed for 28 innings each. If that is the case, then Malik better keep attending Tennis tournaments for next couple of years!

I'll respond but first some pending issues...

You returned to averages again?
you claimed you had "different point of take" as compared to SS...

as I mentioned few of his above par innings, are you willing to accept that you over-stated that he failed in last "some random number" matches/innings?
plus one sorry is pending when you misquoted innings/matches...right?

 

[UP]

God knows why his thread has dragged onto 20th page.

Mr. Anwaar if you can give me a reasonable answer why your peer is not in All time World XI, you will win this thread.

 

[saeed-sohail]

) )
You can fool other people with your phony speadsheets but not me!!!!

WHERE IS ZULQARNAIN IN YOUR LIST???

Fair play to you for going through these lists from Anwaar.I gave up ages ago.

 

[W63L35]

Here is the accurate list ... see where your "hero" is;

	     Test Runs	S/R	% Runs
Trott		404	45.13	13.72%
Broad		250	58.96	 8.49%
Prior		234	59.39	 7.95%
U Akmal		184	73.89	 6.25%
Morgan		175	51.92	 5.94%
Cook		167	53.18	 5.67%
Strauss		155	50.48	 5.26%
Azhar		152	35.51 	 5.16%
Pietersen	140	46.51	 4.76%
Butt		128	48.48	 4.35%
Collingwood	119	41.17	 4.04%
Farhat		118	35.54	 4.01%
Yousuf		 99	52.94	 3.36%
Haider		 88	43.78	 2.99%
Gul		 87    101.16	 2.96%
Ajmal		 67	62.03	 2.28%
Amir		 67	20.87	 2.28%
[B]Malik		 53	50.00	 1.80%[/B]
Swann		 48	44.44	 1.63%
Hameed		 41	55.40	 1.39%
Amin		 40	48.78	 1.36%
Riaz		 29	29.89	 0.99%
K Akmal		 24	46.15	 0.82%
Kaneria		 23	56.09	 0.78%
Asif		 23	25.00	 0.78%
Anderson	 19	28.35	 0.65%
Finn		 10	14.08	 0.34%

 

[GOAT]

W63L35,

We didn't get along in the Miandad vs. Inzi thread, but you, sir, have earned my respect. Let this be a start of a wonderful internet friendship. (a shickelburger emoticon would be PERFECT for this moment)

Sincerely,

GOAT

 

[*sallu*]

Anwaar your defense for Malik is atrocious

I completely understand you like Malik as a player and I respect that. Everyone has personal preferences. But to defend him like this despite him averaging 17 in his last 28 innings (thanks for the info W63L35) is in bad taste to be honest

Like a true fan and supporter you should be asking Malik to go through first class cricket, perform, and get back in the side with his chest high rather than basing it on utterly rubbish statistical manipulation.

If Malik performs, like he did in his first QeA match of the season, and continues to do so, and is still not selected, I will stand by you and ask for Malik's inclusion in all formats in which he has performed in first class cricket based on merit.
But really, this has got to stop mate, support him like a true fan, not a blind one

 

[*sallu*]

W63L35,

We didn't get along in the Miandad vs. Inzi thread, but you, sir, have earned my respect. Let this be a start of a wonderful internet friendship. (a shickelburger emoticon would be PERFECT for this moment)

Sincerely,

GOAT

An excellent poster I must say, have enjoyed reading his posts immensely since he rejoined.

Good going mate, keep it up !!!

 

[UP]

Anwaar's getting a classic pawnage by the hands of W63L35!

Get a life idiot.

 

[GOAT]

An excellent poster I must say, have enjoyed reading his posts immensely since he rejoined.

Good going mate, keep it up !!!

I haven't seen anyone keep their cool and dismantle Anwaar's statistics like this. Usually you just get too frustrated. Its like arguing with a brick wall. Kudos to you sir.

 

[saeed-sohail]

An excellent poster I must say, have enjoyed reading his posts immensely since he rejoined.

Good going mate, keep it up !!!

W63L35 has always been a great poster and glad he made a great comeback.

 

[W63L35]

W63L35,

We didn't get along in the Miandad vs. Inzi thread, but you, sir, have earned my respect. Let this be a start of a wonderful internet friendship. (a shickelburger emoticon would be PERFECT for this moment)

Sincerely,

GOAT

Thanks mate.

Sorry for jumping the gun too early after seeing another comparision thread.... you are very good poster yoursefl!

 

[W63L35]

I'll respond but first some pending issues...
You returned to averages again?
you claimed you had "different point of take" as compared to SS...

No. I just compared him ... how he faired with other batsmen in the other teams. You want to use S/R, I can use S/R.

I'll s I mentioned few of his above par innings, are you willing to accept that you over-stated that he failed in last "some random number" matches/innings?

What kind of point/argument this is??? I asked you a simple question.... which other team will still keep playing a player who has failed 28 innings in a row and you are yet to reply.

 

[saeed-sohail]

Anwaar's getting a classic pawnage by the hands of W63L35!

Get a life idiot.

He does this for a living.Please take some time to go through this thread.All these questions have been asked many times.WL has just taken it to another level I must say.

 

[Black Zero]

Fair play to you for going through these lists from Anwaar.I gave up ages ago.

I don't know what list he's talking about...

only new lists are updated ones, rest are re-telecast from this very thread....

thats why I ask "new comers" to go through the thread first...
(though today I am thinking about to post SM FAQ or prepare a write-up titled "SM for Dummies").

 

[Black Zero]

What kind of point/argument this is??? I asked you a simple question.... which other team will still keep playing a player who has failed 28 innings in a row and you are yet to reply.

Incorrect statement.

 

[*sallu*]

thats why I ask "new comers" to go through the thread first...
(though today I am thinking about to post SM FAQ or prepare a write-up titled "SM for Dummies").

Isn't that a prerequisite to be a Shoaib Malik fan anyways?

 

[ballack13]

shoaib maliks zindabaad wapis aah ja yaar

 

[ballack13]

he is much better than YK

 

[ballack13]

miles better

 

[Black Zero]

Anwaar's getting a classic pawnage by the hands of W63L35!

Get a life idiot.

Thanks for reminder....

Sayonara

 

[Black Zero]

Isn't that a prerequisite to be a Shoaib Malik fan anyways?

I.Q. > 132 and great cricketing sense are the only pre-requisite.

 

[UP]

Thanks for reminder....

Sayonara

Why don't you answer the questions that are being asked.

Why ignore them because your underwear can be seen by people?

When you argue, you answer all questions. Learn the art of arguing. Post # 1530 still awaits your response.

 

[GOAT]

Anwaar, is Malik related to you? Be honest.

 

[W63L35]

to point out couple
his 58 against Aus in Aus

One fifty in 28 international inning ...... success!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What form..... what a batmans!

Also when he was second highest against Eng.

2nd highest in what??? Runs, average, S/R ????? )


What is this list supposed to be by the way... minus Zulqarnain????

Incorrect statement.

Allow me to rephrase, please;

Which other team will still keep playing a player who has failed 27 innings in last 28 innings with only ONE score of above 50?

Sayonara

So soon???? I was just done warming up!

 

[Black Zero]

But to defend him like this despite him averaging 17 in his last 28 innings (thanks for the info W63L35) is in bad taste to be honest

It was actually presented by SS, 2/3 pages ago and responded promptly at that time.

Like a true fan and supporter you should be asking Malik to go through first class cricket, perform, and get back in the side with his chest high rather than basing it on utterly rubbish statistical manipulation.

You change FC structure, format and based selection on FC performance and i would agree with you.
Till then, we have to agree on disagreement.

If Malik performs, like he did in his first QeA match of the season, and continues to do so, and is still not selected, I will stand by you and ask for Malik's inclusion in all formats in which he has performed in first class cricket based on merit.
But really, this has got to stop mate, support him like a true fan, not a blind one

Thats really helpful, I'd say.

I just suggest that Malik do his ShowBiz stuff and give 10% of his earning to

 

[Black Zero]

What is this list supposed to be by the way... minus Zulqarnain????





Allow me to rephrase, please;

Which other team will still keep playing a player who has failed 27 innings in last 28 innings with only ONE score of above 50?


So soon???? I was just done warming up!

That was the RBPC for one match.
You are allowed and welcome to retreat your statements...

I have babies to take care now

 

[W63L35]

I don't know what list he's talking about...

The list in post 1555. If you don't know, then some mod must have sneeked it in.

"SM for Dummies".

Sure, he is!

 

[W63L35]

That was the RBPC for one match.

It took you 37 mintues to explain that?? )


What does RBPC stand for? How do you calculate it? I just want to check your work!
Which one match was it for?
Did you specify that it was for one match? This what you said above the list;

Also when he was second highest against Eng.

One more time.... 2nd in what.... ave, S/R, or something else?

You are allowed and welcome to retreat your statements...

Nice try. )

 

[*sallu*]

It took you 20 mintues to explain that?? )

What does RBPC stand for?
Which one match was it for?
Did you specify that it was for one match? This what you said above the list;

One more time.... 2nd in what.... ave, S/R, or something else?

Nice try. )

Thats actually one of Anwaars very clever inventions that I support

He allocates 100 marks per match that are allocated to players depending on their net contribution in the game (% of runs made and % of wickets scored)

Thats his 1 stat thing that I would've liked for him to do for every game but he stopped doing it

 

[Black Zero]

) )
You can fool other people with your phony speadsheets but not me!!!!

WHERE IS ZULQARNAIN IN YOUR LIST???

Key to the mystery is in the first column of the table.
You need an I.Q. of 80 to sort it out.

P.S...

Your statement about Malik's failures is just over statement...
Bring some logically correct objections and I'll be more than happy to respond...

 

[Black Zero]

Thats actually one of Anwaars very clever inventions that I support

He allocates 100 marks per match that are allocated to players depending on their net contribution in the game (% of runs made and % of wickets scored)

Thats his 1 stat thing that I would've liked for him to do for every game but he stopped doing it

and you know the reason...
They dropped Malik....

 

[*sallu*]

and you know the reason...
They dropped Malik....

c'mon man, keep doing it for the rest of us

I thought this was a great little innovation

 

[GOAT]

Anyways, back on topic, I haven't made an actual contribution to the thread.

There's no case for Malik the Test player, his FC average is 30 so I won't touch that. Some posters mention that he is a "must" for their LOI squads. Theres room for argument there. Personally, I think he's an acceptable ODI batsmen but just barely. In the current squad I would much rather a youngster like Asad Shafiq make it in.

What Malik has been doing recently in his last few ODI's is consolidating after a collapse. I recall a game in Australia particularly where our top three were blown away and Malik consolidated with Umar Akmal before being run out. However, he only managed about 30 odd where as one of Fawad or Umar went on to make a 60.

I don't think Malik can be trusted to perform that role in the team tbh. I want a batsmen who, once he's got his eyes in, can go on to make a decent score. Fawad, Asad, and Umar are all capable of this. And they're all going to be in the squad as permanent members sooner or later, if not already. Currently, they need an experienced head to help them out and thats where Younis fits in. He's not an amazing One day bat but he ca manage to keep his head cool in tough situations. I'd rather see:

3. Younis Khan
4. Asad
5. Fawad.
6. Umar Akmal

Then..

3. Younis
4. Yousaf
5. Malik
6. Umar

Gives the team good balance and gives youngsters who've scored runs a chance to be in the squad. What has Malik done to be in the squad? He has a [great] ODI Hundred against India in an ICC event, but that's not enough to warrant a place if you fail in your last 28 innings. This does not cut it, even by Pakistani standards.

 

[ballack13]

seems like anwar made 4000 runs defending Shebyy Malik

kuch or karne ko nahi hai bhai

 

[Black Zero]

It took you 37 mintues to explain that?? )


What does RBPC stand for? How do you calculate it? I just want to check your work!
Which one match was it for?

--> 37 mins--- There were too many posts and i missed it...
--> RBPC Rating based on performance and contribution...
Think about 100 coins (50 each for bowling and batting) and 22 players fighting for those coins. (This rating based on ratios so automatically compensate even if the match is high scoring or low scoring) though Fielding part is missing.
---> Hint 1:This match was against Eng
Hint 2: Line-up is in the list.
Hint 3: Also present in your list of "failed matches"
Hint 4: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/426413.html

 

[ballack13]

Anyways, back on topic, I haven't made an actual contribution to the thread.

There's no case for Malik the Test player, his FC average is 30 so I won't touch that. Some posters mention that he is a "must" for their LOI squads. Theres room for argument there. Personally, I think he's an acceptable ODI batsmen but just barely. In the current squad I would much rather a youngster like Asad Shafiq make it in.

What Malik has been doing recently in his last few ODI's is consolidating after a collapse. I recall a game in Australia particularly where our top three were blown away and Malik consolidated with Umar Akmal before being run out. However, he only managed about 30 odd where as one of Fawad or Umar went on to make a 60.

I don't think Malik can be trusted to perform that role in the team tbh. I want a batsmen who, once he's got his eyes in, can go on to make a decent score. Fawad, Asad, and Umar are all capable of this. And they're all going to be in the squad as permanent members sooner or later, if not already. Currently, they need an experienced head to help them out and thats where Younis fits in. He's not an amazing One day bat but he ca manage to keep his head cool in tough situations. I'd rather see:

3. Younis Khan
4. Asad
5. Fawad.
6. Umar Akmal

Then..

3. Younis
4. Yousaf
5. Malik
6. Umar

Gives the team good balance and gives youngsters who've scored runs a chance to be in the squad. What has Malik done to be in the squad? He has a [great] ODI Hundred against India in an ICC event, but that's not enough to warrant a place if you fail in your last 28 innings. This does not cut it, even by Pakistani standards.

what do you say to this

3. Younis Khan
4. Fawad
5. Malik
6. Umar Akmal

 

[ballack13]

--> 37 mins--- There were too many posts and i missed it...
--> RBPC Rating based on performance and contribution...
Think about 100 coins (50 each for bowling and batting) and 22 players fighting for those coins. (This rating based on ratios so automatically compensate even if the match is high scoring or low scoring) though Fielding part is missing.
---> Hint 1:This match was against Eng
Hint 2: Line-up is in the list.
Hint 3: Also present in your list of "failed matches"
Hint 4: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/426413.html

how long did it take you to learn these stats

why do you worry he will be back in the team for WC11 he is chilaxxing wiv his wifey!

i can givw you gurantee that he will be in WC11 squad and no one can change that not even afridi

 

[saeed-sohail]

how long did it take you to learn these stats

why do you worry he will be back in the team for WC11 he is chilaxxing wiv his wifey!

i can givw you gurantee that he will be in WC11 squad and no one can change that not even afridi

Afridi fans sharpening their knives.

 

[GOAT]

I just can't be certain Malik is going to score substantially. He's not the worst player to be a LOI squad, however I don't see him scoring a substantially. He's a bits and pieces player, really. I'd much rather a promising young player be in the squad ahead of him.

Tbh, I might not be as critical of him if it wasn't for his politicking aways.

 

[Black Zero]

how long did it take you to learn these stats

why do you worry he will be back in the team for WC11 he is chilaxxing wiv his wifey!

i can givw you gurantee that he will be in WC11 squad and no one can change that not even afridi

Learn this stats? ...

No one is worried... we are mere spectator.
In fact I do not want him back in any format under administration, even as captain.

 

[Decipher]

i can givw you gurantee that he will be in WC11 squad and no one can change that not even afridi

Can ICC change that or Firdous Awan has a "Jogaar" in ICC as well ?

 

[Black Zero]

I just can't be certain Malik is going to score substantially. He's not the worst player to be a LOI squad, however I don't see him scoring a substantially. He's a bits and pieces player, really. I'd much rather a promising young player be in the squad ahead of him.

Tbh, I might not be as critical of him if it wasn't for his politicking aways.

If I am not mistaking, you suggested that I might be politician?

 

[saeed-sohail]

I just can't be certain Malik is going to score substantially. He's not the worst player to be a LOI squad, however I don't see him scoring a substantially. He's a bits and pieces player, really. I'd much rather a promising young player be in the squad ahead of him.

Tbh, I might not be as critical of him if it wasn't for his politicking aways.

Words nail,head and hit come to mind.

 

[GOAT]

If I am not mistaking, you suggested that I might be politician?

All the manipulation and lies, could you blame me ?

 

[Black Zero]

Can ICC change that or Firdous Awan has a "Jogaar" in ICC as well ?

link please
View attachment 9757

 

[W63L35]

Key to the mystery is in the first column of the table.
You need an I.Q. of 80 to sort it out.

May be so, because with my IQ, I don't think I am able to read hidden column heading.

Your statement about Malik's failures is just over statement...

27 failures in 28 innings is an over statement? Very "logically correct"!

Bring some "logically correct" objections and I'll be more than happy to respond...

Are you kidding me or you are just a wind up???

What part of "dropping a player because of the lack of performance" you do not understand? I am sure, an IQ of 80 is certainly not needed to udnertsand that.

and you know the reason...
They dropped Malik....
...

idiot selectors .... how could they drop him when he was in such a sparkling form of his life?

 

[Black Zero]

All the manipulation and lies, could you blame me ?

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3160198&postcount=1433

and let me guess about you...

you must be an ordinary person in real life.

 

[GOAT]

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3160198&postcount=1433

and let me guess about you...

you must be an ordinary person in real life.

lol, I'm a pretty cool guy actually

But if we're stooping so low as to try and call me a "loser" on the interwebs, something must be getting on your nerves

 

[Black Zero]

May be so, because with my IQ, I don't think I am able to read hidden column heading.




27 failute in 28 innings is over statement? Very "logically correct"!



Are you kidding me or you are just a wind up???

What part of "dropping a player because of the lack of performance" you do not understand? I am sure, an IQ of 80 is certainly not needed to udnertsand that.


idiot selectors .... how could they drop him when he was in such a sparkling form of his life?

- Forget the chart, just count 1 to 22.
- 27 failures, still incorrect.
- Nothing wrong was with his form, it was playing conditions. His performance against england was 2nd best among top order... there was no justification to frop the 2nd best player ahead of other 3/4 players.

 

[Black Zero]

lol, I'm a pretty cool guy actually

But if we're stooping so low as to try and call me a "loser" on the interwebs, something must be getting on your nerves

I don't do this normally (you can check history and verify from others) but I had to say it as you have earned it.

 

[W63L35]

- 27 failures, still incorrect.

Because???

- Nothing wrong was with his form, it was playing conditions.

As I said, he was in form of his life.

His performance against england was 2nd best among top order... there was no justification to frop the 2nd best player ahead of other 3/4 players.

Out of thoose 28 innings, he played only 7 innings in England.
21, 12, 26, 10, 38, 9, 3...... no matter what other batsmen did, still not acceptable by any standards.

Still, it was want to select him based on these 7 phenominal scores, then why not drop him based on 20 previous scores????????? By your logic then, he should not have been in the sqaud for England!

 

[Decipher]

May be so, because with my IQ, I don't think I am able to read hidden column heading.
.

Thanks man, otherwise I thought I was the only one unable to understand some "hidden mystery" in column one.

Anwaar, whatever you've been smoking must be on sale. ehehehe jk but on a serious note .though...

What is your input on ICC clearing Malik's name for the WC squad ? Do u think that would be a problem, or Malik ko shadi raas nahi aayi?

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

http://legslip.com/2009/08/07/
More Facts about Malik

Still he has a big clout and a lobby of supporters within the PCB and among the commentators like, Ramiz Raja, Waqar Younus and not to mention Inti Alam and Yawar Saeed.

Abdul Qadir, when he was the chief selector spotted Malik’s negative tactics and forming groups and alliances creating divisions and factionalism in the team during the time Pakistan was playing against Australia in Dubai and asked for Malik’s removal from the team.

In fact Abdul Qadir used a very strong word he said, “I wanted to kick out Shoaib Malik from the team. But, it was Butt who paid no heed to my recommendation.” One of the major differences between Abdul Qadir and Ijaz Butt is Shoaib Malik’s presence in the team and he resigned because of this.

Shoaib Malik’s personal vindictiveness against anyone who is a threat to him, be it Shahid Afridi or, Fawad Alam is not just against those individuals – it is against Pakistan team.

His presence in the team is like a growing cancer, he is like the dead fish in a pond that pollutes the whole pond, he needs to be chucked out ASAP.

Politicking really isnt good.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

^^ Malik's performance has not been an issue for selectors as he has been one of very few players who had been an automatic selection for all three formats for last many years.

MoYo and YoYo tried to settle the scores by not letting him play. Thats was one of the reasons for YoYo's ban beside fishing trips as board said that about captains.

If the ban remains implemented (I have my doubts), still I am satisfied.

As MoYo and YoYo and Ijaz and Bari had destroyed cricket in last two years, I would be happy at the sacrifice of one year of Malik's cricket to get rid of old junk.
Still two to go (Butt and Bari), then we will have some fresh air.

Link?

 

[Poison]

Anwaar, Shoaib isn't single anymore.