Shoaib Malik Support & Performance Watch

[W63L35]

Malik is a match-winner. Good fielder, can bowl a few overs and has the X-factor.

Any comments .... now?

 

[Striver]

^^ yes just wait till he hits few more fours in the upcoming series )

 

[waqar_ahmad]

What's this X factor that he possesses, and we dont have a clue about?

 

[Markhor]

Unfortunately in Pakistan one is not picked on merit but the politicians they know..... What a shame that we have some talented youngsters waiting in the wings but we get SM which in other words is BS.

Only reason Malik is there.

 

[insaftak]

What's this X factor that he possesses, and we dont have a clue about?

X-factor :ayesha

 

[Black Zero]

So what does this simple rule say now????????

2, 14, 7 , 11

That is not my phone number, by the way.

Play him in tests.
and in ODIs/T20I against non-minnows

 

[insaftak]

Play him in tests.
and in ODIs/T20I against non-minnows

sharam kero haya kero.

Malik ke Jaga Hammad ko play kero

 

[Black Zero]

pants of fire..... pants on fire....

Sep 1st?

 

[Black Zero]

sharam kero haya kero.

Malik ke Jaga Hammad ko play kero

as a bowler or as a batsman ?

 

[W63L35]

Play him in tests.
and in ODIs/T20I against non-minnows

Yeh tu wohi baat hui.....

ib kay maaar tu bataun ga! tu zara ib kay maar kay tu dekh!!

1) Didn't you always believed that Malik belonged to ODI/T20 team more than test team?

2) What is your explanation for him failing so miserably vs minnows?

 

[W63L35]

Sep 1st?

Since your statement was from just before the Zimbabwe series....

all I am showing you is that ..... the player (YK) who did not deserve to be in ODI team, justified his selection and the player (SM) who deserved to be selected ... well, 3 4s in 4 innings! Some batting aye!

 

[ads101]

Didn't look in bad nick as the last few games he played internationally before his comeback leading to him getting dropped. Threw away his wicket in most if not all the games.

Had his chance and failed. Might find himself out of the team again, and rightly so. Has to start over, and start piling runs in domestic for a comeback again.

 

[AmmarAshraf]

as expected

 

[W63L35]

hur, I am bringing Malik's discussion to this thread from your following post;
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4177654&postcount=30

but he has lost it after staying out for so long!!

Malik stayed out for a 13 months ... from 6 Aug 2010 to 8 Sep 2011..... a little over one year.

Hafeez stayed out from 18 Oct 2007 to 1 May 2010 for more than 2.5 years.....a little over 29 months.

So what is your point?

MAlik was once a very good ODI player but he has lost it after staying out for so long!!

Was.... a good ODI player long time ago but so were Imran Khan, Miandad, Inzi...

Look at these charts first one is Malik's current ODI ranking. Then look at his highest rank .. 687 points on 13/2/2006....
2nd chart is the ranking for that date..... so at best (at his peak), he was only 19th best batsman .... 5 years ago. For how long we can keep selecting him just becuase he was semi-decent in 2006?

 

[saeed-sohail]

I did not follow this series and can't comment on his performance but BZ saying play him in tests makes me laugh. Test cricket and Malik? No thanks.

 

[W63L35]

I did not follow this series and can't comment on his performance but BZ saying play him in tests makes me laugh. Test cricket and Malik? No thanks.

With all due respect to BZ Bhai (BZ bhai please correct me if I am misquoting you), just before the series, he was also saying that ....

++ Malik is an automatic choice to be captain of limited over team (T20 & ODIs).... I just bumped the post/thread this morning.

++ Malik is the best ever ODI captain Pakistan has produced.

++ Malik is the best ever ODI fielder Pakistan has ever produced.

++ Malik is belongs to ODIs/T20s more than test team since he has 190+ ODIs and a successful T20 campaign ... and he has not played many test.

++ Exact quote from BZ bhai... "No one in current squad is half the odi player that Malik is" ... posted when squad to Zimababwe was announced.

Well read yourself;

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4176855&postcount=109


Point is ... BZ Bhai was advocating for Malik's place in ODI/T20 more than test squad .... before Zim series. I don't know why he is changing his stance now. Do you?

 

[Blitz]

Why the hell does this thread exist?

I mean why? Lets just go make a ''Hitler support thread''.


Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[W63L35]

I did not follow this series and can't comment on his performance but BZ saying play him in tests makes me laugh. Test cricket and Malik? No thanks.

Since you asked.... look at two charts below. First one is Malik's current test ranking and the second one is the ICC's test batsmen ranking on 20/07/2009 when Malik had his highest ICC test ranking.... at #37 below a few specialist keepers and all-rounders like Vetori.

 

[VTEC]

Lock this thread and Ban all Shoaib Malik support thread its a disgrace

Purchi Bits and Pieces Player

 

[emclub]

Look at these charts first one is Malik's current ODI ranking. Then look at his highest rank .. 687 points on 13/2/2006....
2nd chart is the ranking for that date..... so at best (at his peak), he was only 19th best batsman .... 5 years ago. For how long we can keep selecting him just becuase he was semi-decent in 2006?

Wow, thats an unbelievable drop, can he ever come back in the Top 20?

can you show the all rounder rankings? I think he was no 2 or 3 all rounder once, whats his ranking there now?

cant judge him purely as a batter

 

[emclub]

I agree lock this or close this thread because its a ''support'' thread only by name, dont see any support here for Malik

 

[W63L35]

I agree lock this or close this thread because its a ''support'' thread only by name, dont see any support here for Malik

You don't? You need to have your eyes checked brother!

Some one has 724 posts out of 3159 (23%) in this thread..... of unmatchable support to any cricket player ever given. So much so.. that we did not get any comment on Pakistan's 6-0 win today and yet we still got some posts supporting Malik.

No.... I'll strongly oppose to closing this thread. PP will lose a very valuable poster!

 

[farazaidi]

It's time to lock this thread.

on a second thought, its time to lock him up and throw over the bridge. Played a horrendous shot today, its just criminal

 

[Black Zero]

Wow, thats an unbelievable drop, can he ever come back in the Top 20?

can you show the all rounder rankings? I think he was no 2 or 3 all rounder once, whats his ranking there now?

cant judge him purely as a batter

WL isn't aware that if you don't play matches (and your country keep playing) then you lose points automatically!

So there is no sense arguing about his test points..until he plays continuously couple of years.

 

[Black Zero]

I did not follow this series and can't comment on his performance but BZ saying play him in tests makes me laugh. Test cricket and Malik? No thanks.

...i was thinking about you yesterday that you missed YK's performances.
Hope you are fine and returned safely.

Back to topic, I was surprised when "they" didn't include Malik in first tour game...and from both test matches...


I am also surprised that SM seemed least interested...in performing though always looked at ease in middle...

Now stage is set in LHR

 

[AZ]

I'd like to tender my resignation to the Shoaib Malik Supporters Club.

He's rubbish!

 

[W63L35]

WL isn't aware that if you don't play matches (and your country keep playing) then you lose points automatically!

So there is no sense arguing about his test points..until he plays continuously couple of years.

Let's not assume things like MM .... I was fully aware of that. Which is why I also posted his HIGHEST ranking for both tests and ODIs. Any comment on those, Sir/Janab-e-Aali?

 

[emclub]

I'd like to tender my resignation to the Shoaib Malik Supporters Club.

He's rubbish!

fair-weather supporter tsk tsk

 

[Black Zero]

on a second thought, its time to lock him up and throw over the bridge. Played a horrendous shot today, its just criminal

Something very uncharacteristic of Malik...

Team needed him to consolidate...had couple of boundaries against rice...there was no need (though ball seemed lose and was asking to be hit bounced and resulted in cb)...
Even playing for SS, I'd not expect malik to play like this...

In 2 odi's he was unlucky and got caught on blinders...
in 1st t20, only 7 balls left, so you had to hit...no blame there...

but today, it was weird that he started hitting boundaries..when team needed him to stay.

 

[W63L35]

I'd like to tender my resignation to the Shoaib Malik Supporters Club.

He's rubbish!

If my memory serves me right.... weren't you a huge Salman Butt fan?
So ... you supported two players and look what happened to them! Can you please not pick any performing player from current squad...for your support?

By all means.... please go ahead and fully support Imran Farhat.... Javid Miandad, Imran Khan, Inza, Wasim and Waqar!

 

[W63L35]

fair-weather supporter tsk tsk

What about countries where it is always bad (rainy) weather .... e.g. England?

 

[VTEC]

how does Malik's last 10 innings Batting Average look like now?

 

[W63L35]

Something very uncharacteristic of Malik...

Team needed him to consolidate...had couple of boundaries against rice...there was no need (though ball seemed lose and was asking to be hit bounced and resulted in cb)...
Even playing for SS, I'd not expect malik to play like this...

In 2 odi's he was unlucky and got caught on blinders...
in 1st t20, only 7 balls left, so you had to hit...no blame there...

but today, it was weird that he started hitting boundaries..when team needed him to stay.

So by your standards, would you call these 4 innings of 2, 14, 7 & 11 as failures or not?

Here is your previous definition of failures.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4104040&postcount=93

 

[W63L35]

how does Malik's last 10 innings Batting Average look like now?

BZ Bhai, I knew you wanted to do this but please let me save you a few minutes;

 

[VTEC]

2
14
7
11

These stats give a whole new meaning to the word Failure and just when u thought Malik couldnt get any worse than cheap 20s and 30s

 

[Black Zero]

Let's not assume things like MM .... I was fully aware of that. Which is why I also posted his HIGHEST ranking for both tests and ODIs. Any comment on those, Sir/Janab-e-Aali?

I have my doubts...

if you were aware, then why you mentioned his test rating?

even for odis, he is not regular after he lost captaincy...(so no point mentioning that also)

and at that point, jan 25th, 2009...he was 2nd highest ranked player after MoYo.

http://www.relianceiccrankings.com/datespecific/odi/?stattype=batting&day=25&month=01&year=2009

 

[W63L35]

I have my doubts...

if you were aware, then why you mentioned his test rating?

even for odis, he is not regular after he lost captaincy...(so no point mentioning that also)

and at that point, jan 25th, 2009...he was 2nd highest ranked player after MoYo.

http://www.relianceiccrankings.com/datespecific/odi/?stattype=batting&day=25&month=01&year=2009

....and a nose dive after that (Jan 25th 2009)?? How long we have to live with constant failures and live in the glory of past (if you call that glory)?

From that date (25th Jan 2009) to his ouster from ODI team (19 Jun 2010), Pakistan played 24 ODIs. Malik featured in 19 of them. See the two lists below;

1. List of ODIs (24 - won 7, lost 17) from 25 Jan 2009 to 19 Jun 2010.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...eam=7;template=results;type=team;view=results

Malik was part of 19 of those ODIs before getting kicked out;

2. Malik's record in 19 ODIs since 25th Jan 2009 to 19 Jun 2010 before getting kicked out.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...an;template=results;type=batting;view=innings

439 runs in 19 ODIs with ave of 24.38 at S/R of 69.57.

Why he should not have been dropped?

 

[AZ]

fair-weather supporter tsk tsk

LOL no way, BZ bhai is witness to my support for Malik even in the tough times.

If my memory serves me right.... weren't you a huge Salman Butt fan?
So ... you supported two players and look what happened to them! Can you please not pick any performing player from current squad...for your support?

By all means.... please go ahead and fully support Imran Farhat.... Javid Miandad, Imran Khan, Inza, Wasim and Waqar!

Zehreela pyaar.

 

[BoomBoomCricket]

Shaoib Malik faced 38 balls in 4 LO matches on this tour and was dismissed 4 times for just 34 runs together. He dropped catches in the field during the one day series which you'd expect him to take. He went at 7 an over with the ball when he did bowl. This too on flat pitches against a minnow side. Should he be selected for the Sri Lanka series? It's about as a horrible come back as it gets. There is competition from the likes of Hammad Azam for that no 5 or 6 spot. He has been hard done by after scoring 36 on debut and bowling a tidy spell against Ireland. Personally, I don't rate Malik too highly. He is a mediocre cricketer at best, but a brilliant outfielder.

 

[Black Zero]

LOL no way, BZ bhai is witness to my support for Malik even in the tough times.



Zehreela pyaar.

Yes,
but



there was no need for the resignation!
abhi tou achaay din aayay hein...

 

[W63L35]

Yes,
but



there was no need for the resignation!
abhi tou achaay din aayay hein...

If 2, 14, 7 & 11 are Achaay Din then I shudder to think of buray din!

 

[ahsan88]

I'd like to tender my resignation to the Shoaib Malik Supporters Club.

He's rubbish!

Finally.

M. Hafeez Fan Club awaits your application.

 

[farazaidi]

Yes,
but



there was no need for the resignation!
abhi tou achaay din aayay hein...

Achey din aa ker chaley bhi gaye bhaijaan. Malik is on his way out of the team you know :azeem

 

[insaftak]

I'd like to tender my resignation to the Shoaib Malik Supporters Club.

He's rubbish!

LOL no way, BZ bhai is witness to my support for Malik even in the tough times.



Zehreela pyaar.

I worry about hammad azam. Tera pyaar us ko be kahin ka nahi chore ga. lol

allah buri nazar say bachaye

 

[munda_khi]

Didn't look in bad nick as the last few games he played internationally before his comeback leading to him getting dropped. Threw away his wicket in most if not all the games.

Had his chance and failed. Might find himself out of the team again, and rightly so. Has to start over, and start piling runs in domestic for a comeback again.

i agree with this. i think he is good enough player but fail to use his chance. he should go back and start all over, he may or may not get selected down the road but on current performance he don't deserve it

 

[W63L35]

I worry about hammad azam. Tera pyaar us ko be kahin ka nahi chore ga. lol

allah buri nazar say bachaye

Why do you think Hammad is not selected yet?

 

[Black Zero]

Achey din aa ker chaley bhi gaye bhaijaan. Malik is on his way out of the team you know :azeem

No, I don't.

 

[W63L35]

Yes,
but



there was no need for the resignation!
abhi tou achaay din aayay hein...

If 2, 14, 7 & 11 are Achaay Din then I shudder to think of buray din!

Sir BZ, I am still waiting for the definition of "buray din"?

 

[Black Zero]

Sir BZ, I am still waiting for the definition of "buray din"?

Achay din...>

1) Afridi is out
2) moYo is out
3) Malik is back
4) Waqar is out
5) IB is on verge

.....
.....

.....

 

[IMMY69]

Achay din...>

1) Afridi is out
2) moYo is out
3) Malik is back
4) Waqar is out
5) IB is on verge

.....
.....

.....

So Malik fans are a reflection of the player himself! By this I mean stats and performances are secondary compared to ousting team and official members!!

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Achay din...>

1) Afridi is out
2) moYo is out
3) Malik is back
4) Waqar is out
5) IB is on verge

.....
.....

.....

You been spending time with Malik!!

 

[AZ]

Yes,
but



there was no need for the resignation!
abhi tou achaay din aayay hein...

LOL - BZ bhai aap jitni himmat mujhe mey naheen hain.

very tough to convince myself on why Malik should play ahead of someone like Shafiq or Junior.

 

[Fallen King]

^ AZ

We have to remember that Shoaib Malik barely performs against Minnow teams. There is the reason why he is never termed as Minnow basher in compared in Younis Khan (in ODI). Whenever Malik performs, he only performs against top quality teams, and India happens to be one of them.

Who knows he might find his form back on the upcoming series like Sri Lanka and England (ODI/T20 ONLY). Remember, Malik was once used to be second most consistent ODI batsman after Inzimam during Inzimam's captaincy. That's no coincident.

Malik is coming back after a very long time. Perhaps, we should be patient because as we are aware of players like Misbah and Younis don't give exactly hope to lead batting line in ODI/T20, but in Test, it's different matter because they are world class batsmen in Test only. And Afridi is no longer batsman anymore, and merely just pinch hitter (his word - not mine)

Malik would put up better fight in comparable to Misbah and Younis combined when it comes to India. LOL
Anyhow, the retirement of Younis Khan and Misbah are always on the card, and nor the possibility of return of Shahid Khan Afridi to Pakistan Cricket as long as Ijaz Butt. It's better if we be patient with Shoaib Malik for a while. After all, he is proven match winner in ODI/T20. His averages against South Africa, Sri Lanka, India and several other teams barring England are no fluke, and he is still the best batsman when it comes to encounter spinners. As what we are aware of our young players are always found out in Test because of spinners nowadays. This is very serious matter especially in Test format.

- I still can't believe how our batting line consists of Asad Shafique, Younis Khan, Misbah, Afridi, Hafeez, Umar and Kamran Akmal, Razzaq have failed and choked miserably against one of the most weakest bowling attack in the history of Cricket. I will never forget that. It seems like we needed Malik - Yousuf partnership alone in comparable to the whole batting. Right now, several of them are currently in the team performing like tigers now against Zimbabwe. Minnow Bashers!

 

[Black Zero]

LOL - BZ bhai aap jitni himmat mujhe mey naheen hain.

very tough to convince myself on why Malik should play ahead of someone like Shafiq or Junior.

 

[W63L35]

So Malik fans are a reflection of the player himself! By this I mean stats and performances are secondary compared to ousting team and official members!!

Pakistan team can go to dumps while Malik scores 2, 14, 7 & 11 ....and they are celebrating!

 

[W63L35]

Aozu billah min shaitan rajim
bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm
May Allah forgive me for saying anything wrong in this post and may Allah forgive the so-called Muslims who have double standards.
Bother Mohsin..May Allah forgive your and my sins...!

Aaameen

^ AZ
We have to remember that Shoaib Malik barely performs against Minnow teams. There is the reason why he is never termed as Minnow basher in compared in Younis Khan (in ODI).

So what are you saying?
1) Either Malik is totally incapable of performing against mediocre minnow bowling?
or
2) He deliberately gets out on low scores against minnows? If he does then he is match fixer. Are you calling Malik a

If he does not want to labeled as minnow basher then why he averages 76.50 against Hong Kong?

Whenever Malik performs, he only performs against top quality teams, and India happens to be one of them.

Astaghfirullah! MalikMohsin May Allah forgive your and my sins.
Which top quality team he has performed? England, Australia, New Zealand or Sri Lanka??
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...derbyad=reverse;template=results;type=batting

May Allah forgive the people who make up lies! Aameen!

Whenever Malik performs, he only performs against top quality teams, and India happens to be one of them.

MalikMohsin (May Allah forgive sins) are you calling India a top quality team when Malik scored runs vs India?

Here are the Indian bowlers that he played against got Malik's wickets. Now what does Islam say about calling these bowlers top quality when they are not?

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...late=results;type=batting;view=bowler_summary

Who knows he might find his form back on the upcoming series like Sri Lanka and England (ODI/T20 ONLY).

Who knows he might stay at the same form he has been for last 32 innings. So what is your point?

Remember, Malik was once used to be second most consistent ODI batsman after Inzimam during Inzimam's captaincy. That's no coincident.

Can you back up your claim with stats? Otherwise in eye of Allah it can be taken as a lie. May Allah give people courage to speak the truth and only truth. Aaaaameeen.

Malik is coming back after a very long time. Perhaps, we should be patient.

A lot of people have been patient with him for last 32 innings. How many chances you want given to your hero?
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...an;template=results;type=batting;view=innings

because as we are aware of players like Misbah and Younis don't give exactly hope to lead batting line in ODI/T20, but in Test, it's different matter because they are world class batsmen in Test only.

Look at this link: ODI top batsmen this year.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...1;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

So Misbah is not a world class ODI batsman when he is the 8th highest run scorer out of 332 batsmen this year?

So Misbah is not a world class ODI batsman when he has the 2nd highest average out of 322 batsmen this year?

So Younis Khan is not world class ODI batsman when he is the 16th highest ODI runs scores out of 322 batsmen?


MalikMohsin may Allah save you and me the sin of telling lies Aaameen....

Malik would put up better fight in comparable to Misbah and Younis combined when it comes to India. LOL

Here is the problem brother.... Pakistan has played 46 ODI since Oct 1, 2009 (roughly two years) .... but only two ODI were played against India. You want Malik to play so that he could play only 2 matches in 46 ODIs... and if you include upcoming 10 ODIs vs Eng/SL ... that would 56 ODIs... with only two vs India.

MalikMohsin ... may Allah give you and me the wisdom to think intelligently. Aameen!

Anyhow, the retirement of Younis Khan and Misbah are always on the card, and nor the possibility of return of Shahid Khan Afridi to Pakistan Cricket as long as Ijaz Butt. It's better if we be patient with Shoaib Malik for a while.

32 innins and counting.... how long .... how long more?

After all, he is proven match winner in ODI/T20.

Evrybody who has "won" matches ... is a proven match winner. BY the same logic he is a proven "match loser" also.

His averages against South Africa, Sri Lanka, India and several other teams barring England are no fluke,

Sri Lanka....??? 5 fifties in 33 matches @ ave of 31.9?
South Africa...?? 3 fifties in 189 matches??
Yeh, no fluke!

and he is still the best batsman when it comes to encounter spinners.

Can you back up your claim with stats? Otherwise in eye of Allah it can be taken as a lie. May Allah give people courage to speak the truth and only truth. Aaaaameeen.

As what we are aware of our young players are always found out in Test because of spinners nowadays. This is very serious matter especially in Test format.

Here is another problem.... every team plays 2-3 pace bowlers also in every match. What is your suggestion for pace bowlers, then?

- I still can't believe how our batting line consists of Asad Shafique, Younis Khan, Misbah, Afridi, Hafeez, Umar and Kamran Akmal, Razzaq have failed and choked miserably against one of the most weakest bowling attack in the history of Cricket. I will never forget that. It seems like we needed Malik

So Indian bowling is one of the weakest when Malik is absent and India is #1 ranked team and wins a world cup????

But India is TOP QUAILTY team when Malik scores against India???

Whenever Malik performs, he only performs against top quality teams, and India happens to be one of them.

So what is the truth MalikMohsin???? Does India has the weakest bowling attack or India the top quality team?


May Allah forgive us for telling lies and having double standards! Aaaaaaaameeeeeeeen!

 

[Legend Killer]

W63L35 i agree with your points but why are you brining islam into this as a joke, its unneeded and just plain offensive

 

[saeed-sohail]

Please play him in tests coz according to BZ he is on the verge of going on a mad run spree. Average of 60 over next 30 odd game is only a matter of time.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

LOL - BZ bhai aap jitni himmat mujhe mey naheen hain.

very tough to convince myself on why Malik should play ahead of someone like Shafiq or Junior.

Would you play him ahead of YK?

 

[saeed-sohail]

WL can you do us a favour if you have time to kill. BZ claimed about 18 months ago that Malik and YK have similar career paths in test cricket in their first 30 odd games. Can you please break their test careers down in 5 tests showing their respective stats in say 5/10/15/20 tests so we can see how similar their career paths have been.

I am in Pakistan and can't do it myself on my mobile.
Thanks.

 

[W63L35]

W63L35 i agree with your points but why are you brining islam into this as a joke, its unneeded and just plain offensive

I apologize if I offended you but ....this is exactly how I find MM's posts ...nothing but offensive.

I just spoke his language... and gave him taste of his own medicine.... hoping he is little careful in future when he brings Islam while discussing a sport which is nothing more than entertainment ....and the players who are nothing more than entertainers...and get paid for their profession!

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?p=4168047#post4168047

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?p=4175478#post4175478

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?p=4175507#post4175507

Above are a few examples .....of him doing exaclty the same ..or may be worse.

 

[W63L35]

WL can you do us a favour if you have time to kill. BZ claimed about 18 months ago that Malik and YK have similar career paths in test cricket in their first 30 odd games. Can you please break their test careers down in 5 tests showing their respective stats in say 5/10/15/20 tests so we can see how similar their career paths have been.

I am in Pakistan and can't do it myself on my mobile.
Thanks.

Comparison after EACH test match.... you still want stats broken by 5 tests?
Malik of the left..... YK on the right;
I'll post detailed country wise comparison later;

 

[W63L35]

Country and continent wise break up;

 

[Watsupdoc]

W63 bhai bhul jao what ever you do, Malik will still play

 

[ash 68]

Maliks performance cannot be defined by statistics, only by politics
same with farhat

 

[W63L35]

W63 bhai bhul jao what ever you do, Malik will still play

I know.... everybody does what they are capable of ....

Malik will keep doing what he is capable of ......
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...an;template=results;type=batting;view=innings

I'll keep doing what I am capable of ..........
(stating the facts)

Malik fans will keep doing what they are capable of ..........
(distorting the facts)

 

[VTEC]

- I still can't believe how our batting line consists of Asad Shafique, Younis Khan, Misbah, Afridi, Hafeez, Umar and Kamran Akmal, Razzaq have failed and choked miserably against one of the most weakest bowling attack in the history of Cricket. I will never forget that. It seems like we needed Malik

Whenever Malik performs, he only performs against top quality teams, and India happens to be one of them.

Pwnd Really REALLY hard

+rep to WL

 

[Black Zero]

Please play him in tests coz according to BZ he is on the verge of going on a mad run spree. Average of 60 over next 30 odd game is only a matter of time.

SS...there a long standing issue that you have been avoiding.

Repeat!

You asked him to play domestic (while i am opposed to the idea of him wasting time in QEA trophy) and score one hundred to prove...

He scored 1 dbl, 3/4 100s and 1/2 50s in 6 matches.

in your own words, he has proved what you demanded..four times...

the deal is still on that after 58 test matches he wud avg around 44/45...but as far as you are concerned...he already proved,

 

[Black Zero]

Pwnd Really REALLY hard

+rep to WL

India is a top quality team ... proof (they won the wc by beating a us,pak,sl)
India bowling is their weakest link and if someone suggests that their bowling is weaker as compared to a us,sa,a us,sl,wi then why you are so shocked?

 

[Black Zero]

WL can you do us a favour if you have time to kill. BZ claimed about 18 months ago that Malik and YK have similar career paths in test cricket in their first 30 odd games. Can you please break their test careers down in 5 tests showing their respective stats in say 5/10/15/20 tests so we can see how similar their career paths have been.

I am in Pakistan and can't do it myself on my mobile.
Thanks.

SS...I didn't expect...that you would doubt that...everyone knows that YK was a parchi.

 

[Black Zero]

Comparison after EACH test match.... you still want stats broken by 5 tests?
Malik of the left..... YK on the right;
I'll post detailed country wise comparison later;

please provide your verdict to SS as he seems to trust you

and meanwhile go through:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=2759412&postcount=705

 

[Black Zero]

SS...I didn't expect...that you would doubt that...everyone knows that YK was a parchi..

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=2702657&postcount=470


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[Black Zero]

Comparison after EACH test match.... you still want stats broken by 5 tests?
Malik of the left..... YK on the right;
I'll post detailed country wise comparison later;

It's make me sad that people doubt me...

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=2702657&postcount=470

 

[Black Zero]

Country and continent wise break up;

if we see your table and try to find some common ground then it's clearly SL...where both played similar # of tests (8/9) and thats also an adequate sample set...

and we know who is the clear winner!

we will discuss other countries when we have some comparable data.

 

[W63L35]

SS...there a long standing issue that you have been avoiding.

Repeat!

You asked him to play domestic (while i am opposed to the idea of him wasting time in QEA trophy) and score one hundred to prove...

He scored 1 dbl, 3/4 100s and 1/2 50s in 6 matches.

in your own words, he has proved what you demanded..four times...

the deal is still on that after 58 test matches he wud avg around 44/45...but as far as you are concerned...he already proved,

Proved what?

....and is QEA Trophy is waste of time then what does 2, 14, 7 & 11 prove??

 

[W63L35]

India is a top quality team ... proof (they won the wc by beating a us,pak,sl)
India bowling is their weakest link and if someone suggests that their bowling is weaker as compared to a us,sa,a us,sl,wi then why you are so shocked?

I have no idea what you are say. The point was ... that MalikMohsin was saying two opposite thing;

- I still can't believe how our batting line consists of Asad Shafique, Younis Khan, Misbah, Afridi, Hafeez, Umar and Kamran Akmal, Razzaq have failed and choked miserably against one of the most weakest bowling attack in the history of Cricket. I will never forget that. It seems like we needed Malik

Whenever Malik performs, he only performs against top quality teams, and India happens to be one of them.

These are two totally contradictory statement.
"Malik performs agains top quality teams .... meaning top Malik bats well against top quality BOWLING .... and India happens to be one". His making statements just like you do... totally opposite and contradictory.

What do you think..... MM is saying then? Is Indian bowling TOP QUALITY becuase Malik scored against it ... or it is weakest becuase all out batsmen failed against it in WC SF?
Need one answer ... top quality bowling or weakest bowling?

 

[W63L35]

SS...I didn't expect...that you would doubt that...everyone knows that YK was a parchi.

No nobody knows that ..... you are the only one spreading false rumors. What proof do you have? Isn't Malik biggest parchi that he is part of the team after flopping in 32 consecutive innings?

 

[W63L35]

It's make me sad that people doubt me...

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=2702657&postcount=470

Why should we doubt you.....everything you say? You are such a truthful person.
++ You said Malik is much better opening batsman than Hanif.
++ You said Malik is much better ODI captain than Imran Khan
++ You said Malik is the best ever Pakistani fielder.
++ You said Sialkot (lead by Malik) is the best ever Domestic Team in the world ahead of all the counties, Australian state sides.
++ You saidMalik had a very successful tour on England last year.
++ You said Malik is much better batsman than Younis Khan.
++ You said Malik is much better batsman than Mohammad Yousuf.

 

[W63L35]

if we see your table and try to find some common ground then it's clearly SL...where both played similar # of tests (8/9) and thats also an adequate sample set...

and we know who is the clear winner!

we will discuss other countries when we have some comparable data.

clear winner??? If you ask a 4th grader, he'd be able to tell you who has more runs, better average, better S/R, more 100s, more 50, more 4s, more 6s..... !!

 

[W63L35]

and meanwhile go through:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=2759412&postcount=705

How come you haven't listed or saved the discussion you had with me?

please provide your verdict to SS as he seems to trust you

My verdict??? You mean... you still don't know??

Here .. one more time.....
HOW MANY TIMES A BATSMAN HAS TO FLOP BEFORE HE GETS KICKED OUT OF THE TEAM PERMANENTLY?????

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...an;template=results;type=batting;view=innings

Malik's last 6 international innings; Three 4s in six innings!! It is so sad that .. I can't even laugh at you!

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