Shoaib Malik Support & Performance Watch

[Black Zero]

RE: Weak captain

Yes he never had a say in team matters,

so there is no base of blaming him that he dropped seniors.

 

[Black Zero]

-.-

With Malik in the team we wouldnt even have made it to the Semi

Pakistan won two good matches (vs SL and vs Aus) others were just non-matches for me.

 

[Markhor]

You missed the point!

It was my analysis not desire.

No you said

If you through the polling (in this thread) you would notice that I was against him playing WC (so that Pakistan lose and PPers realize the missing ingredient).

That is not an analysis

In case you want it defined - An analysis is a

Detailed examination of the elements or structure of something.

I didn't read a detailed examination, but an unhealthy obsession with an individual and that seems to be the basis of this thread - one fan's obsession and the depths he will go to defend one player. You have been giving a PHD thesis on why Malik is so valuable to the team but seem to ignore the very basis of his selection in the side - it is not for cricketing reasons and your theatrical attempts at proving his worth to the team with your plentiful array of line graphs, histograms and bar charts (not to mention your attempts at pitting one player off another to prove your point) - the basis of Malik's inclusion is one reason and one reason only and you have this woman to thank along with a few MNAs in Sialkot.

 

[Black Zero]

No you said



That is not an analysis

In case you want it defined - An analysis is a

I didn't read a detailed examination, but an unhealthy obsession with an individual.

That was done when the issue was hot.
Here I mentioned the bottom line...

 

[VTEC]

Pakistan won two good matches (vs SL and vs Aus) others were just non-matches for me.

Malik's 25 off of 40 Balls or his 7 Economy Bowling would have lost us both the matches

 

[VTEC]

That was done when the issue was hot.
Here I mentioned the bottom line...

When the Issue was HOT u wanted Pakistan to LOSE

So the bottom line is
U wanted Pakistan to LOSE

 

[Black Zero]

When the Issue was HOT u wanted Pakistan to LOSE

So the bottom line is
U wanted Pakistan to LOSE

I wanted Pakistan to win and provided a direction (i.e. pick malik as captain)

 

[VTEC]

I wanted Pakistan to win and provided a direction (pick malik as captain)

Malik with his Crap Batting and Crap Bowling was gonna win us the World Cup -.-

All i see is :

I was against him playing WC (so that Pakistan lose and PPers realize the missing ingredient)

 

[the Great Khan]

I said that before WC in numerous threads.
I guess its never too late.

Pakistan could have won the WC, had Malik played that match.

and if my grandma had wheels she would be a wagon..!!

please retire now while you still have some minor semblance of dignity left!

 

[Black Zero]

and if my grandma had wheels she would be a wagon..!!

 

[Markhor]

That was done when the issue was hot.
Here I mentioned the bottom line...

OK, I have sifted through this ridiculous 42 page thread and found your 'detailed examination'

Originally Posted by Anwaar
its not abt hoping...

ask any cricket pundit and you will know the chances of current Pakistan team...

and yes I am expecting (though not hoping) a trashing of Pakistan team in WC...and in result we may have some house cleaning.

We did not get 'trashed' and there was no post-World Cup cull like you were predicting.

And your 'analysis' (3 and a half lines) about post-World Cup 'house cleaning' was also proved wrong.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3558675&postcount=2234

You haven't got your post-WC cull like you have been craving deep down. How many times have you said that Malik will soon return as captain ? Please muster any remaining dignity you have left and admit that you have been proven wrong.

 

[W63L35]

Pakistan won two good matches (vs SL and vs Aus) others were just non-matches for me unless those were 5 match series against BD/Zim and Malik was leading the side .... to win 10-0 so I could claim that Malik is better captain than Imran Khan.

.... you forgot to complete the sentence.

 

[W63L35]

I wanted Pakistan to win and provided a direction (i.e. pick malik as captain)

Just like he has helped us win vs Zimbabwe with his mere presence?

 

[W63L35]

RE: Weak captain

When did I say that and in whose context???
Post the link here!!!

 

[Markhor]

Another gem from March

let afridi run the show...no need for malik atm in this squad.
though he must have a key role in post-wc team.

What as Elton Chigumbura's bunny ?

 

[Black Zero]

OK, I have sifted through this ridiculous 42 page thread and found your 'detailed examination'


We did not get 'trashed' and there was no post-World Cup cull like you were predicting.

And your analysis about post-World Cup 'house cleaning' was proved wrong.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3558675&postcount=2234

You haven't got your post-WC cull like you have been craving deep down. Please muster any remaining dignity you have left and admit that you have been proven wrong.

- Are you now satisfied on the main point that I was not wishing but expecting?
- Yes, we were not thrashed but shameful exit nonetheless. (we got easy matches)

 

[Markhor]

I will answer your question but I am finding more gems by the minute.

Poor MoYo/YK/Afridi are now in catch 22 situation and I expect a "baqr-eid" after WC.

)

This is clearly not expecting, you were wishing for Pakistan to fail judging by the frequency of your dhamkiyaan.

You know what they say, the more a person says something the more they think it is true. Self-delusion at its best.

 

[Black Zero]

How many times have you said that Malik will soon return as captain ? Please muster any remaining dignity you have left and admit that you have been proven wrong.

Things moving slow at pcb than I expected.
I thought Afridi sacking before wc (but misbah saved him) and we got an easy match against wi...and afridi survived little longer...

just waiting for the cycle to complete.

 

[W63L35]

- Yes, we were not thrashed but shameful exit nonetheless. (we got easy matches)

Must be easier than Malik's 10-0 wins vs Zim/BD .... otherwise how would you have claimed Malik to be better captain than Imran Khan?

 

[Black Zero]

When did I say that and in whose context???
Post the link here!!!

done

 

[W63L35]

done

Where are the words "Weak Captain"????

Why are you misquoting me? One more your blatant lies?
Has somebody ever told you are a chronic liar?

 

[kabirg]

I don't know why people are still arguing with this idiot BZ after the statement he made above. PATHETIC.

 

[VTEC]

Posting again for emphasis

If you through the polling (in this thread) you would notice that I was against him playing WC (so that Pakistan lose and PPers realize the missing ingredient). people still wonder if Malik could have changed the end result.

I was against him playing WC (so that Pakistan lose and PPers realize the missing ingredient)

so that Pakistan lose

so that Pakistan lose

 

[Saqs]

Unbelievable the nature of the partisan support of some "Pakistani fans".

 

[saeed-sohail]

BZ bhai WL toh pakka peeche parr gya.

 

[VTEC]

BZ ki jaan lay kay hee choray ga WL

 

[Black Zero]

Posting again for emphasis

Last time I checked..Pakistan lost...(and Malik cud have been a difference).

 

[Black Zero]

BZ bhai WL toh pakka peeche parr gya.

He had to retreat so many time..any other poster would have left this thread.

Interestingly, he never challenges my arguments.
Just resort to taunts...and those aren't gonna work.

 

[W63L35]

He had to retreat so many time..any other poster would have left this thread.

You must be talking about SM fans.... becuase look around, you are only one arguing with the walls..... thank me for lending you an ear.

Interestingly, he never challenges my arguments.

Almost all of my posts in this thread are "challenging" your arguments.

It is you who never reply to my posts.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4183990&postcount=3240
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4186510&postcount=3320

Just resort to taunts...and those aren't gonna work.

Me taunt you?? Stupid me.... why do I taunt you when you have respect oozing out of comments from other posters about you! Sorry!

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4185978&postcount=3285
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4185987&postcount=3286
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4186142&postcount=3287
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4186148&postcount=3288
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4186152&postcount=3289
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4176911&postcount=3146
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4184804&postcount=3278

As they say..... zubaan-e-khalq ko naqqara-e-khuda samjho!

 

[iHammad]

I have now realized how much this guy sucks. Vs zimbabwe he scored 2, 14, 7 and 11.
I hope he fails tomorrow with his sialkot stallions.

 

[Black Zero]

You must be talking about SM fans.... becuase look around, you are only one arguing with the walls..... thank me for lending you an ear.



Almost all of my posts in this thread are "challenging" your arguments.

It is you who never reply to my posts.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4183990&postcount=3240
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4186510&postcount=3320



As they say..... zubaan-e-khalq ko naqqara-e-khuda samjho!

YK's argument is for YK's fan...if you declare urself one then we can continue from there...(do you agree that YK should have been dropped from test then?)

Regarding Public opinion --->

 

[W63L35]

YK's argument is for YK's fan...if you declare urself one then we can continue from there...(do you agree that YK should have been dropped from test then?)

See there you go avoiding (running away) from the questions in the post. My question was not about selections 6-7 years ago. YK ultimately proved that persisting with him was the right decision.

Now presisting with Malik has brought these question below....these questions are about NOW, as in this moment?

Can you answer three questions below ... in blue color???

What part of "dropping a player based on recent performance" you DO NOT understand?

I never objected Malik's inclusion until 28 Sep 2009. I have been member of PP since 2006. Find me one post before 2010 where I even once objected Malik being part of the team.

It was only when he started going totally down hill since 29 Sep 2009, I started saying that Malik is DONE and somebody else should be give a chance.

So, for 35078th time ... when do you drop a player after he has failed 32 times????

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...an;template=results;type=batting;view=innings

Show once ONE international player (let alone YK) from a non-minnow who has failed 32 times and yet part of the team?? I CHALLENGE YOU ONE MORE TIME!!!

Regarding Public opinion --->

So are in great company then!

 

[farazaidi]

Malik who?

There is only one Shoaib

 

[AZ]

FBT20 mey to kuch karle bhai.

 

[farazaidi]

Will Raza Hasan play for Stallions or Rams? I think cricinfo has got it wrong

 

[AZ]

is playing for Pindi.

 

[Black Zero]

See there you go avoiding (running away) from the questions in the post. My question was not about selections 6-7 years ago. YK ultimately proved that persisting with him was the right decision.







P

Then Malik would "ultimately" prove...keep him picked as we did with YK.

 

[Black Zero]

FBT20 mey to kuch karle bhai.

He should change Nazir's batting order as an opener he failed in last two editions and created pressure on middle order.

 

[MRSN]

The biggest supporter of Shoaib Malik after Black Zero is expected to come and support Malik's Stallion today.

 

[W63L35]

Then Malik would "ultimately" prove...keep him picked as we did with YK.

aur tum ghaib ka ilam jantay hu???

6-7 saal pehlay saaanp (snake) guzar gaya aur tum aaj lakeer peet rahay hu?

Aaaj kay saanp (snake) ku marnay ki baat kiyun nahi kartay?

One more time time....questions in blue .... about current team, current selection and current form??

What part of "dropping a player based on recent performance" you DO NOT understand?

I never objected Malik's inclusion until 28 Sep 2009. I have been member of PP since 2006. Find me one post before 2010 where I even once objected Malik being part of the team.

It was only when he started going totally down hill since 29 Sep 2009, I started saying that Malik is DONE and somebody else should be give a chance.

So, for 35078th time ... when do you drop a player after he has failed 32 times????

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...an;template=results;type=batting;view=innings

Show once ONE international player (let alone YK) from a non-minnow who has failed 32 times and yet part of the team?? I CHALLENGE YOU ONE MORE TIME!!!

 

[W63L35]

hmmmmmm. Everything OK between bhai & bhabi, BZ?

 

[Shahzebayub]

Malik open the innings today

 

[VTEC]

hmmmmmm. Everything OK between bhai & bhabi, BZ?

Main itni bari Tennis Star
Aur tum Zimbabwe kay haat maar kha gai?

 

[Shahzebayub]

Good batting by malik open innings and make 50

 

[W63L35]

Good batting by malik open innings and make 50

against some very good, top quality bowling.

He should thank his lucky stars that Chigumbura was not playing for Hyderabad....

 

[VTEC]

The Ultimate T20 Specialist Batsman Shoaib Malik made 50 Runs off of 53 Balls with a S/R less than 100 while facing uncapped and mediocre Domestic Bowlers

Even Ahmed Shehzad and K Akmal were better then him with S/R of 150 vs the same Opposition

And they say Misbah is tuk tuk lol

 

[Shahzebayub]

against some very good, top quality bowling.

He should thank his lucky stars that Chigumbura was not playing for Hyderabad....

i dont nead your comment this is malik fan club and i post his runs pata nai kaha kaha se aa jatay hain

 

[the Great Khan]

Malik should be back in the test team..this performance was brilliant..some really pretty shots and such style..I think he's learning something from Sania..I think he'll easily rip any attack apart on any surface..including england..his performance in england proved it last year..such grace under fire..I think he'll easily up his average to the high fifties if he's given another 50 odd uninterrupted test matches..wille asily make moyo and yk look like tail enders..haters will always hate!

 

[saeed-sohail]

Agree with TGK. For Pakistan sake bring bradman back in test side.

 

[W63L35]

Agree with TGK. For Pakistan sake bring bradman back in test side.

Why can't we take TGK's argument for ODI and T20 teams? I'd say, lets bring him back to all three teams!

 

[shahrukh619]

People who are asking Malik to play for Pak. Where were you people when Malik was playing against Zimbabwe

 

[W63L35]

People who are asking Malik to play for Pak. Where were you people when Malik was playing against Zimbabwe

Well.... he had not showed his form by scoring a brilliant 50 against Hyderabad then!

 

[saeed-sohail]

50 of 52, wow what a knock.

 

[saeed-sohail]

He already a legend on ODI and t20 arena and on the verge of greatness in test cricket.

 

[W63L35]

He already a legend on ODI and t20 arena and on the verge of greatness in test cricket.

What do you mean???? He was already a great test player before he made his test debut!

 

[Rizie]

This guy is pathetic , whole tour against Zimbabwe he did jack,

now he makes a fifty

 

[W63L35]

The Ultimate T20 Specialist Batsman Shoaib Malik made 50 Runs off of 53 Balls with a S/R less than 100 while facing uncapped and mediocre Domestic Bowlers

Even Ahmed Shehzad and K Akmal were better then him with S/R of 150 vs the same Opposition

And they say Misbah is tuk tuk lol

Yes... you wonder why??? See Malik vs Misbah in last 20/25 ODIs/T20s and career stats.... Compare their S/R and even Average;

 

[Shahzebayub]

Malik is top runs maker for pak in t20 int plus domestic

 

[VTEC]

Yes... you wonder why??? See Malik vs Misbah in last 20/25 ODIs/T20s and career stats.... Compare their S/R and even Average;

Boggles the mind

(Wordings added to WL's Stats Pwnage)

T20s :
Tuk Tuk Misbah vs Ultimate T20 King Malik

Career Matches
Innings : 29 vs 33
Runs Scored : 652 vs 654
Average : 34.31 vs 24.22
S/R : 113 vs 113

The Bradman the ULTIMATE MOOLAH of T20 Cricket averages 10 Less than the renowned Tuk Tuk batsmen Misbah

Tuk Tuk has same Strike Rate and Same Runs scored minus 2 with 4 Innings Less batted

Tuk Tuk also hit Much more Sixes than the mad daddy of T20

My simple Question is If Misbah is labelled Tuk Tuk then what is Malik

 

[AmmarAshraf]

My simple Question is If Misbah is labelled Tuk Tuk then what is Malik

Phus Phus Malik

 

[farazaidi]

Epic stats W63, tuk tuk Misbah owns Malik

 

[Sledger]

What was up with that Malik/Sania ad being played on geo?

 

[W63L35]

What was up with that Malik/Sania ad being played on geo?

ad ... for what?

 

[farazaidi]

^have they done a commercial together? I Hope its not for Green Star organization

 

[W63L35]

Boggles the mind

(Wordings added to WL's Stats Pwnage)

Epic stats W63, tuk tuk Misbah owns Malik

Thanks but watch out of smoke coming of a post or two to follow...and some burning smell to go with it!

 

[emclub]

Sania Mirza in Pakistan , Shoaib Malik leads Sialkot Stallions

With a knee injury keeping her off court, Indian tennis star Sania Mirza is on a holiday with her cricketer husband Shoaib Malik, who would also be competing in Pakistan's National Twenty20 Championships.

Sania Mirza got a warm welcome when she reached the city on Sunday with Malik but refrained from speaking to the media.

Sania has been diagnosed with a ruptured left knee miniscus and was advised a minimum six weeks rest by a specialist at the beginning of the month.

Sania, dressed in a red salwar kameez, was cheered by the people at Karachi airport when she arrived with Malik in the evening.

This is the first time Sania is visiting Pakistan's biggest city since she came here to play in an international junior tennis tournament in the 90s. Malik said he hoped bilateral cricket relations with India would resume soon.

"I don't think the media should create so much hype around us and our marriage but yes I do hope that our marriage in some way helps people in both countries realize we can co-exist peacefully and help each other.

"I hope our marriage in some helps in further improving relations between the two countries," the former Pakistan captain told reporters.

Sania, who got married to Malik last year in April in a wedding that took the subcontinent by storm, has been in Pakistan for the last few days visiting her in-laws in Malik's hometown of Sialkot besides travelling to Lahore on a private visit.

Sources said Malik arranged for a special permission for his wife to be in Karachi for the duration of the tournament in which he is captaining the Sialkot Stallions.

"I am here to play cricket and my wife is with me on a holiday but obviously her presence is good for me and I hope to do well in the national tournament," he said. http://www.cricblitz.net/2011/09/sa...ik.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[emclub]

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[Black Zero]

Agree with TGK. For Pakistan sake bring bradman back in test side.

Thanks SS and TGK for all your support!

 

[Black Zero]

Boggles the mind

(Wordings added to WL's Stats Pwnage)

T20s :
Tuk Tuk Misbah vs Ultimate T20 King Malik

Career Matches
Innings : 29 vs 33
Runs Scored : 652 vs 654
Average : 34.31 vs 24.22
S/R : 113 vs 113

The Bradman the ULTIMATE MOOLAH of T20 Cricket averages 10 Less than the renowned Tuk Tuk batsmen Misbah

Tuk Tuk has same Strike Rate and Same Runs scored minus 2 with 4 Innings Less batted

Tuk Tuk also hit Much more Sixes than the mad daddy of T20

My simple Question is If Misbah is labelled Tuk Tuk then what is Malik

You missing one small difference
Misbah is choker

 

[W63L35]

You missing one small difference
Misbah is choker

I knew, another gem of a comment was coming!

Yes, I agree bro.. one heck of choker, Misbah is....!

So ..... now by your logic (Malik >>> captain Imran Khan) ..... does choker qualify to be better captain your hero?

 

[Black Zero]

I knew, another gem of a comment was coming!

Yes, I agree bro.. one heck of choker, Misbah is....!

So ..... now by your logic (Malik >>> captain Imran Khan) ..... does choker qualify to be better captain your hero?

FYI
This is choke.--->

 

[Black Zero]

I knew, another gem of a comment was coming!

Yes, I agree bro.. one heck of choker, Misbah is....!

So ..... now by your logic (Malik >>> captain Imran Khan) ..... does choker qualify to be better captain your hero?

where is Imran in the list?
I want to see his position w.r.t. Malik...

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al1=matches;team=7;template=results;type=team


Lets raise the bar to exclude time-pass captains:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al1=matches;team=7;template=results;type=team

and now you should not come to this thread for at least 10 days (if you have any moral courage)

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al1=matches;team=7;template=results;type=team

 

[W63L35]

FYI
This is choke.--->

FYI .... this is performance........... well, lack of it;


.

 

[W63L35]

where is Imran in the list?
I want to see his position w.r.t. Malik...

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al1=matches;team=7;template=results;type=team


http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al1=matches;team=7;template=results;type=team

Question..... one more time. Is Misbah better captain than Malik or not?

 

[Black Zero]

Question..... one more time. Is Misbah better captain than Malik or not?

No he is not...
Let him play at 20-25 more matches...so we can decide as sample set is too small..

and thanks for validating that Malik is more successful than Imran/Miandad/Wasim/Waqar.

 

[W63L35]

No he is not...
Let him play at 20-25 more matches...so we can decide as sample set is too small..

Weren't you begging me to post Malik's last 10 ODI's stats when his 100 against Indian was to included. Why wasn't 10 matches small sample then? Freaking double standards again!

and thanks for validating that Malik is more successful than Imran/Miandad/Wasim/Waqar.

When was the last time you spoke "truth"??? Lying again and falsifying my statement!

Where did I validate such a STUPID notion? Here is what I said!!!!

So ..... now by your logic (Malik >>> captain Imran Khan) ..... does choker qualify to be better captain your hero?

Repeating the same question ....above (by your logic)

Question..... one more time. Is Misbah better captain than Malik or not?

Speaking of you lying over and over again.... you still owe me a reply on this blatant lie;
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4186510&postcount=3320

 

[Black Zero]

??? Lying again and falsifying my statement!

Where did I validate such a STUPID notion? Here is what I said!!!!

here: >

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4193140&postcount=3369

 

[Black Zero]

Speaking of you lying over and over again.... you still owe me a reply on this blatant lie;
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=4186510&postcount=3320

you posted pia's quote (wherein he quoted naheed akhtar's remark abt malik)

 

[Black Zero]

Weren't you begging me to post Malik's last 10 ODI's stats when his 100 against Indian was to included. Why wasn't 10 matches small sample then? Freaking double standards again!

common sense

last 10 matches to judge recent form (so not small)
but one shouldn;t compare someone last 10 matches with other's complete career. (small for career comparison)

do you know bazid khan's w/l? (as a regular player)

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en..._loss_ratio;team=7;template=results;type=team

 

[VTEC]

You missing one small difference
Misbah is choker

Ok lets say i agree that Misbah is a choker

Do u agree that Malik is a Crap batsmen with **** poor Average and Specially Poor S/R in T20s?