the Great Khan
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Lol it took eng 6 mins to dismiss him..lol..what a player
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You asked him to play domestic (while i am opposed to the idea of him wasting time in QEA trophy) and score one hundred to prove...
He scored 1 dbl, 3/4 100s and 1/2 50s in 6 matches.
in your own words, he has proved what you demanded..four times...
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=2702657&postcount=470Thanks WL. Your tables clearly show YK was miles better then Malik.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=2702657&postcount=470
Miles or Centimeters?
SM AVG YK AVG
After 5 Matches 24.20 25.11
After 10 Matches 36.14 45.92
After 15 Matches 39.90 37.45
After 20 Matches 38.03 44.80
After 25 Matches 35.73 40.17
After 26 Matches 38.72 38.97
After 27 Matches 35.57 38.27
After 28 Matches 36.00 37.33
After 29 Matches 36.11 38.68
Miles or Centimeters?
how about the Fact that YK made 400 More runs and 4 More Centuries than Malik?
Higher Average
More Runs
3 Times more Centuries
Is YK better than Malik from these Stats of first 32 Test Matches? YES
Is YK better than Malik overall in Tests? YES
YES or NO for the bold Part BZ whts ur answer?
Qasid ke aate aate, khat ek aur likh rakhoon
Main jaanta hoon jo woh likhenge jawaab mein
Qasid ke aate aate, khat ek aur likh rakhoon
Main jaanta hoon jo woh likhenge jawaab mein
Qasid ke aate aate, khat ek aur likh rakhoon
Main jaanta hoon jo woh likhen gi jawaab mein
So you are saying Malik should be selected and YK should be dropped based on what they did 6 years ago??? YK played his 32nd match on 2 Jan 2005!
How about selecting ^& dropping players based on RECENT performance? See who the clear winner is?
Is this still being disussed?
Is there anything to discuss about Malik's performances?
This thread is all about Black Zero's (Anwaar) gems that he keeps posting.... !
Bro, having dealt with anwar or anwari or whatever his/her name is - he/she will keep arguing with nonsense - just for the sake of keeping this thread going or for a declaration of Mr Mirza's love. It's some long-winded psychological thing for him/her. Who knows maybe she (or is it he) is hoping against hope that mr mirza might read this thread and get in contact or something.
So you are saying Malik should be selected and YK should be dropped based on what they did 6 years ago??? YK played his 32nd match on 2 Jan 2005!
But a mature person would give a different reply after considering # of innings, batting positions etc.clear winner??? If you ask a 4th grader, he'd be able to tell you who has more runs, better average, better S/R, more 100s, more 50, more 4s, more 6s..... !!
But a mature person would give a different reply after considering # of innings, batting positions etc.
if we see your table and try to find some common ground then it's clearly SL...where both played similar # of tests (8/9) innings (13/15) and thats also an adequate sample set...
and we know who is the clear winner!
This is for YK fans to decide!
My argument is/was simple, either condemn YK's selection then or STOP bashing Malik's inclusion for tests.
Take a stand for once.
It's past 4am here in Kashmir and I have been awake all night because of some family problems. This thread is my only source of escape from it all and I would like to thank you all for providing me this entertainment.
....and your point is?
W63L35 bhai any logical person (kid or adult) would have come to a conclusion that there is no comparison between Younis and Malik as Younis is world class whereas Malik is not even worthy to represent Pakistan in tests. Unfortunately BZ is not a rational person and you are wasting your precious time and energy on this endeavor.
You are not the only one getting entertained!
Hope your family problems get resolved very soon! When are you flying back?
I was originally supposed to fly back tomorrow but my daughter and my sister are suffering from some issues after my mum passed away. Not sure when we will fly back.
....and your point is?
I was originally supposed to fly back tomorrow but my daughter and my sister are suffering from some issues after my mum passed away. Not sure when we will fly back.
So why weren't acting mature when you were declaring Malik a winner based on 8-to-9 test & 13-to-15 innings ....and of course batting positions?
What part of "dropping a player based on recent performance" you DO NOT understand?
I never objected Malik's inclusion until 28 Sep 2009. I have been member of PP since 2006. Find me one post before 2010 where I even once objected Malik being part of the team.
It was only when he started going totally down hill since 29 Sep 2009, I started saying that Malik is DONE and somebody else should be give a chance.
So, for 35078th time ... when do you drop a player after he has failed 32 times????
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...an;template=results;type=batting;view=innings
Show once ONE international player (let alone YK) from a non-minnow who has failed 32 times and yet part of the team?? I CHALLENGE YOU ONE MORE TIME!!!
W63L35 bhai any logical person (kid or adult) would have come to a conclusion that there is no comparison between Younis and Malik as Younis is world class whereas Malik is not even worthy to represent Pakistan in tests. Unfortunately BZ is not a rational person and you are wasting your precious time and energy on this endeavor.
It's past 4am here in Kashmir and I have been awake all night because of some family problems. This thread is my only source of escape from it all and I would like to thank you all for providing me this entertainment.
Thanks for backing your claims with stats.
That malik made more runs in 6 innings out of 7
That malik made more runs in 6 innings out of 7
You can think about Afridi's current situation if this thread fails to ease your nerves.
you can get Afridi's details from WL
YK's argument is for YK's fans...you may ignore it...
Thanks for validating my data to SS that i gave around 16 months ago.
What part of "dropping a player based on recent performance" you DO NOT understand?
I never objected Malik's inclusion until 28 Sep 2009. I have been member of PP since 2006. Find me one post before 2010 where I even once objected Malik being part of the team.
It was only when he started going totally down hill since 29 Sep 2009, I started saying that Malik is DONE and somebody else should be give a chance.
So, for 35078th time ... when do you drop a player after he has failed 32 times????
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...an;template=results;type=batting;view=innings
Show once ONE international player (let alone YK) from a non-minnow who has failed 32 times and yet part of the team?? I CHALLENGE YOU ONE MORE TIME!!!
Speaking backing the data with claims and then spitting out totally false numbers..... pay very close attention to following point!
It is not 6 out of 7.... it is 4 out of 7! There is a huge difference between 1-6 and 3-4!
You can deceive yourself with false data but .......!
....and why MALIK-FANS keep ignoring my post and questions????
Once again... can I get a answer from any die-hard Malik fan??
l so you confess (indirectly) that Malik is better!
l so you confess (indirectly) that Malik is better!
actually no one would agree that 58 runs in an innings is a failure...
....and why MALIK-FANS keep ignoring my post and questions????
Once again... can I get a answer from any die-hard Malik fan??
So ... 6 out of 7 ... aye????
How about comparing all test match they played together??
I'll let you count the number of inning SM scored more runs than YK.... Oh wait.... you can't!
It is YK 21 (62%) - SM 13 (38%).
I think BZ is the lone survivor...and the loneliness has made his condition even worse than before.
I think BZ is the lone survivor...and the loneliness has made his condition even worse than before.
Are we dying for recognition or what?????I;d prefer if you rate...also
W63L35, would you have YK in the ODI and Twenty20 team ahead of Malik?
ODI:
If I have to select one, I would certainly select YK ahead on Malik.
T20:
I would select nether.
Every single team in the world gets selected on current/recent form. Here is their recent form;
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Thanks for tracking my condition!
I;d prefer if you rate...also
Ugh information overload bro.
The whole discussion is about them playing for Pakistan team. I would not select either of them for Pakistan T20 team.And no offense, but I didn't ask if you would select either for Twenty20s or not.
As I said, simple rule for selecting a player is (in the whole wide world) that you look at his recent performance. Based on recent (last 10 ODIs), I would certainly pick YK ahead of SM ... becuase YK has scored 3 fifities as oppose to SM's none. YK has much much better S/R and Ave than SM... why would not anybody pick YK ahead of SM.So you think we should play YK ahead of Malik in ODIs.
Again .... the whole discussion is about them playing for Pakistan team. I would not select either of them for Pakistan T20 team. YK was rightly not picked for T20 vs Zimabawe.... where as Malik was picked when he should not have been.What about in Twenty20s if you had to pick between the two?
Oh now I recall you
still 4/5 questions pending for you to answer!
hope you won't do it again:
Notice how BZ dreams about Malik to be like YK?????Err, questions - your only premise at the time was let's ALLOW malik to play as many tests as YK (regardless of how crap he is) and you were sure after he had, malik would average approx 50 - which in turn meant that he would have to average about 60 over 30 / 40 tests or whatever, I can't even remember!
And you want me to take you seriously? I just read your frustrated posts out of amusement. You provide a lot, so please carry on, I'll get the popcorn!
BZ seems to be the lone ranger here.
Then there is another guy who thinks Malik is some fighter for the religion of Islam and can't stop tell us how big of a sinners we are for "hating" and "criticizing" him....keeps asking for our forgiveness for these "gunah-e-kabeera" that we commit on daily basis.
I want this Guy NOW !!!
What do you mean by "you want him"?
Coming from a guy who is almost addicted to NFL fantasy competition - playing 4 of them at the same time???
Touchdowns, running yards, passing yards, receiving yards, interceptions, sacks, fumbles, PAT, FG, fumbles recovered, kick off return........ hmmmmm
The whole discussion is about them playing for Pakistan team. I would not select either of them for Pakistan T20 team.
Again .... the whole discussion is about them playing for Pakistan team. I would not select either of them for Pakistan T20 team. YK was rightly not picked for T20 vs Zimabawe.... where as Malik was picked when he should not have been.
I have never seen this type of unconditional
Same type of difference he made to the end result in Zimbabwe when he given FOUR chances?If you through the polling (in this thread) you would notice that I was against him playing WC (so that Pakistan lose and PPers realize the missing ingredient). people still wonder if Malik could have changed the end result.
It was Malik who won us a match against India in CT (a rare win against them in an ICC tournament) but never got proper acknowledgement.
If you through the polling (in this thread) you would notice that I was against him playing WC (so that Pakistan lose and PPers realize the missing ingredient). people still wonder if Malik could have changed the end result.
If you through the polling (in this thread) you would notice that I was against him playing WC (so that Pakistan lose and PPers realize the missing ingredient). people still wonder if Malik could have changed the end result.
It was Malik who won us a match against India in CT (a rare win against them in an ICC tournament) but never got proper acknowledgement.
If you through the polling (in this thread) you would notice that I was against him playing WC (so that Pakistan lose and PPers realize the missing ingredient). people still wonder if Malik could have changed the end result.
If you through the polling (in this thread) you would notice that I was against him playing WC (so that Pakistan lose and PPers realize the missing ingredient). people still wonder if Malik could have changed the end result.
It was Malik who won us a match against India in CT (a rare win against them in an ICC tournament) but never got proper acknowledgement.
What should he change it to ? 'BS' sounds fitting.and there we have the end of BZ as we know it..please change your user id now..your above statement just damned you on this thread! pathetic statement but im not surprised
I cannot believe you just said that.
You are no better then Sachin.
and there we have the end of BZ as we know it..please change your user id now..your above statement just damned you on this thread! pathetic statement but im not surprised
What should he change it to ? 'BS' sounds fitting.
I cannot stand these fanboys who are obsessed with one player, one individual out of the XI that forms a team. You can see what depths fanboys plunge to just to prove a point, they'd rather see the team lose so that their favourite and such fans can say 'I told you so'.
If you through the polling (in this thread) you would notice that I was against him playing WC (so that Pakistan lose and PPers realize the missing ingredient). people still wonder if Malik could have changed the end result.
I was against him playing WC (so that Pakistan lose and PPers realize the missing ingredient)
so that Pakistan lose
so that Pakistan lose
Evidence of why Malik is despised will be out soon. Added to his atrocious failure against the minnows of Zimbabwe it really should end his 'non'-career.
Taking a dig at Shoaib Malik, Akhtar has stated in his book that the Pakistani all-rounder was PCB's stooge. "Shoaib Malik doesn't deserve to be captain and was made captain because he was a stooge of the PCB Chief Naseem Ashraf," states Akhtar.
You missed the point!
It was my analysis not desire.
If you through the polling (in this thread) you would notice that I was against him playing WC (so that Pakistan lose and PPers realize the missing ingredient). people still wonder if Malik could have changed the end result.
Who are you trying to fool?
"I was against him playing in WC" ....
you were wishing "before the WC", you were desiring "before the world cup" ... and you were wanting "before the world cup"!!!
You call this analysis??? Another gem worth saving!
W63L35 bhai, bhainse kay agay been bajane say kya faida!!!!!!!