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Sohail Tanvir as captain in ODI/T20I?

Should lead Pakistan in WC t20

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ok still not sold on the guy yet...but he is starting to make a strong case. Needs to perform like this consistently.

Really hope that this performance doesn't get him selected for the ODI's. He is a T20 bowler (still not sold on this completely yet either), and when he plays ODIs, he gets a phainty of his life time, which then causes him to lose his confidence overall. Should only stick to T20s.
 
Must be made captain now after that epic last over. That first ball that he hit for six....

Oops :))
 
looool what a joke of a thread the day this happens is the day i stop watching pak cricket
 
Why do you people hate him so much? Bhatti and Junaid bowled pathetically today as well! He troubled Dilshan. And he got unlucky as well. Under-edges, mis-fields, etc. Come on guys, you sorta ruin the purpose of this thread by bumping it after every below average performance. Open it only if he loses us a match, and that was certainly not the case today.
 
mussu-100 said:
Why do you people hate him so much? Bhatti and Junaid bowled pathetically today as well! He troubled Dilshan. And he got unlucky as well. Under-edges, mis-fields, etc. Come on guys, you sorta ruin the purpose of this thread by bumping it after every below average performance. Open it only if he loses us a match, and that was certainly not the case today.
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After nearly 100 international matches he averages 35 with the ball and economy rate of 5.18 and speed of mid 120s and he is not a 19 year old either. investing in him is all waste, every match that he plays is a match that a deserving player like Ehsan Adil, Hammad Azam, Anwar Ali and Sadaf Hussain miss out.

We do not hate him for anything, we just want the deserving player to play and he is certainly not the deserving one.
 
mussu-100 said:
Why do you people hate him so much? Bhatti and Junaid bowled pathetically today as well! He troubled Dilshan. And he got unlucky as well. Under-edges, mis-fields, etc. Come on guys, you sorta ruin the purpose of this thread by bumping it after every below average performance. Open it only if he loses us a match, and that was certainly not the case today.
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I actually agree with this to some extent. Agreed that Tanvir should never become captain and he is a pathetic ODI cricketer overall, but today he bowled better than Bilawal and maybe even Junaid (at times).
 
Square Drive said:
I actually agree with this to some extent. Agreed that Tanvir should never become captain and he is a pathetic ODI cricketer overall, but today he bowled better than Bilawal and maybe even Junaid (at times).
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Question : Does he deserve his spot in the national team for ODIs or should that place be given to someone who actually deserves on merit like Sadaf Hussain or Ehsan Adil who have been top wicket takers in domestic. it was not about todays match its every single match he plays, another players loses a part of his potential career.
 
khurramsk said:
Question : Does he deserve his spot in the national team for ODIs or should that place be given to someone who actually deserves on merit like Sadaf Hussain or Ehsan Adil who have been top wicket takers in domestic. it was not about todays match its every single match he plays, another players loses a part of his potential career.
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Definitely Sadaf over Tanvir (not Ehsan, because at the moment, he seems to be another Tanvir in the making).

I only mentioned today's game because of the bump of this thread by posters after Tanvir's performance today (which wasn't that bad compared to the performances of some of the other Pakistani bowlers bowling today).
 
Reverselap said:
Agreed. Tried his best to win Lanka the match today, but that pesky Junaid spoiled it all

Nevertheless, fabulous effort from the future Kaptaan!
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that pesky Junaid who got smashed from ball one and had the worst economy rate on the night.
 
AZ said:
that pesky Junaid who got smashed from ball one and had the worst economy rate on the night.
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Had he given away as many as Kaptaan sahab did in the penultimate over, we'd have lost
 
Reverselap said:
Had he given away as many as Kaptaan sahab did in the penultimate over, we'd have lost
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indeed, 44 runs conceded in less than 6 overs was a truly matchwinning performance from Junaid. :14:
 
AZ said:
indeed, 44 runs conceded in less than 6 overs was a truly matchwinning performance from Junaid. :14:
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That was only below average performance by Junaid Khan this year. As a Senior, Tanvir should have performed better. His ODI performance is not up to the mark at all and IMO he does not warrant his place in ODIs.
 
AZ said:
indeed, 44 runs conceded in less than 6 overs was a truly matchwinning performance from Junaid. :14:
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1) great bowlers are those who come back stronger in their second spell when they are hammered in their first.

2) junaid gave 25 runs in first 3 overs and was thrown out of the attack although he picked up an important wicket.

3) what did he do in the second spell? Gave away only 19 runs in 3 overs and picked up 2 crucial wickets when others including tanvir were being smashed for sixes. It was a great comeback given the match situation.
 
Bug said:
That was only below average performance by Junaid Khan this year. As a Senior, Tanvir should have performed better. His ODI performance is not up to the mark at all and IMO he does not warrant his place in ODIs.
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merely pointing out how the other poster was making out Junaid to be some hero when he was in fact the worst bowler on show yesterday.

Madplayer said:
1) great bowlers are those who come back stronger in their second spell when they are hammered in their first.

2) junaid gave 25 runs in first 3 overs and was thrown out of the attack although he picked up an important wicket.

3) what did he do in the second spell? Gave away only 19 runs in 3 overs and picked up 2 crucial wickets when others including tanvir were being smashed for sixes. It was a great comeback given the match situation.
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yes, ''great bowlers'' get smashed when there are proper batsmen at the crease then come and dismiss tailenders to improve their stats.
 
AZ said:
merely pointing out how the other poster was making out Junaid to be some hero when he was in fact the worst bowler on show yesterday.



yes, ''great bowlers'' get smashed when there are proper batsmen at the crease then come and dismiss tailenders to improve their stats.
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so according to you great bowlers can never have a bad spell? Wonderful standards you've set there.

And junaid picked up wickets of tailenders? Did u watch the match?
 
AZ said:
yes, ''great bowlers'' get smashed when there are proper batsmen at the crease then come and dismiss tailenders to improve their stats.
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Dilshan and Matthews are not tailenders + Junaid's 70% of ODI wickets are of No 1 - No 6 batsmen.
 
AZ said:
indeed, 44 runs conceded in less than 6 overs was a truly matchwinning performance from Junaid. :14:
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No comment on the actual topic of the thread? :sohail

I'm with AZ! Tanvir should be the test captain. Not sure about LOIs though.
 
Tanvir should be a fixture in the T20 team but not a starter in ODIs.

Anwar Ali should be dropped, Tanvir should take over his role of squad bowler and someone like Sadaf Hussain should be brought in.
 
Junaid's pathetic bowling was one of the major factor why SL almost pulled off the win.

One good over at the end doesn't change the fact that he was rubbish like Bhatti/Tanvir.

Had Tanvir bowled that last over, people wouldn't have defended him like they're defending Junaid.

Junaid is a good young bowler, and that is it. full stop.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Far from being a top class bowler and a leader of the attack.
 
Mamoon_ said:
Junaid's pathetic bowling was one of the major factor why SL almost pulled off the win.

One good over at the end doesn't change the fact that he was rubbish like Bhatti/Tanvir.

Had Tanvir bowled that last over, people wouldn't have defended him like they're defending Junaid.

Junaid is a good young bowler, and that is it. full stop.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Far from being a top class bowler and a leader of the attack.
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Had All rounder Tool Kit Bob the Builder bowled that last over, he'd have been smashed for 15.

Junaid didn't bowl well, but the extra pace (And he wasn't even that fast himself) compared to 105 kph Lollypops peddled as slower balls meant he was harder to hit
 
Yes which is why I don't want Tanvir to play in ODIs unless its a dead rubber or there injuries etc.

having said that, Junaid is overrated on this forum beyond belief.

Good last over specialist and it ends there. Shouldn't be completing his 10 overs quota and good too see Misbah not handing him the new ball anymore even in Irfan's absence.
 
He is not a ODI bowler. He's a t20 bits and pieces player. That's about it. He bowls perhaps 5mph more than Paul Collingwood....so why on earth do we pick him for ODIs?
 
Mamoon_ said:
Yes which is why I don't want Tanvir to play in ODIs unless its a dead rubber or there injuries etc.

having said that, Junaid is overrated on this forum beyond belief.

Good last over specialist and it ends there. Shouldn't be completing his 10 overs quota and good too see Misbah not handing him the new ball anymore even in Irfan's absence.
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He is left-arm and bowls with enthusiasm and reasonable pace...he is the modern version of our Aqib Javed. Not a particularly special bowler. Just workman-like. Irfan provides the X-factor. We need another new 2 fast bowlers.
 
Mamoon_ said:
Yes which is why I don't want Tanvir to play in ODIs unless its a dead rubber or there injuries etc.

having said that, Junaid is overrated on this forum beyond belief.

Good last over specialist and it ends there. Shouldn't be completing his 10 overs quota and good too see Misbah not handing him the new ball anymore even in Irfan's absence.
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Junaid isn't a great but should never be compared to Tool Kit Tanvir. That said, he's young, so he may become a great one day, if he improves.
 
Wasim_Waqar said:
He is left-arm and bowls with enthusiasm and reasonable pace...he is the modern version of our Aqib Javed. Not a particularly special bowler. Just workman-like. Irfan provides the X-factor. We need another new 2 fast bowlers.
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Reverselap said:
Junaid isn't a great but should never be compared to Tool Kit Tanvir. That said, he's young, so he may become a great one day, if he improves.
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The general consensus in this thread that Junaid is a world class bowler/special talent is completely off the mark.

He possesses no extraordinary talent and has nothing apart from a good yorker and okayish pace.

Speaking of his pace, that is an another overrated attribute of his. He is not express and tends to trundle at times like yesterday.
 
Mamoon_ said:
The general consensus in this thread that Junaid is a world class bowler/special talent is completely off the mark.

He possesses no extraordinary talent and has nothing apart from a good yorker and okayish pace.

Speaking of his pace, that is an another overrated attribute of his. He is not express and tends to trundle at times like yesterday.
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Agreed. I think they need to find a few more fast bowlers for tests.
 
Silly Point said:
No comment on the actual topic of the thread? :sohail

I'm with AZ! Tanvir should be the test captain. Not sure about LOIs though.
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this thread has not been ''on topic'' for a long time now, for some reason it is the go to Tanvir thread.
 
Playing XI in T20's. Squad player in ODI's. As simple as that. Id take him over Wahab or Anwar anyday of the week, even in ODI's. Currently Irfan is injured, and Anwar is in the squad. So that means Tannu should play the whole series, and hopefully he will bowl decently and consistently.
 
More like whoever created this thread does not know how is cricket played or may be he was paid by Tanvir or even Tanvir himself created this. :)

The guy is so useless...

1) He can't field he is awful in the field.
2) He can't bat. He can play one shot and that is leg side slog ( Tennis player ) cannot play
off side at all.
3) His bowling well he was in the team coz of his bowling and he is losing Pakistan matches then winning them.
 
Rudi hater said:
More like whoever created this thread does not know how is cricket played or may be he was paid by Tanvir or even Tanvir himself created this. :)

The guy is so useless...

1) He can't field he is awful in the field.
2) He can't bat. He can play one shot and that is leg side slog ( Tennis player ) cannot play
off side at all.
3) His bowling well he was in the team coz of his bowling and he is losing Pakistan matches then winning them.
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He's a match winner. Did you see his death bowling yesterday? Won the game in just two overs #ATG
 
Rudi hater said:
More like whoever created this thread does not know how is cricket played or may be he was paid by Tanvir or even Tanvir himself created this. :)

The guy is so useless...

1) He can't field he is awful in the field.
2) He can't bat. He can play one shot and that is leg side slog ( Tennis player ) cannot play
off side at all.
3) His bowling well he was in the team coz of his bowling and he is losing Pakistan matches then winning them.
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He plays a better cover drive than Umar Amin :p

Admittedly, he is not a good ODI player, but he should be in the playing XI for T20's.
 
Is there anyway, we can get the psychological testing on the guy created this thread?
 
Reverselap said:
No need for one. Noon League supporter, :afridi lover and Kukri lover
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Hahaha, Noon league supporter , than I have to ask to check his qualifications along with psychological testing as well :) ( Look like just have attended some village schools only) :)
 
don't want to ruin the thread by taking personal shots at anyone, unki auqaat pehle hi wazay hai.

good spell early on, fell apart in his second.
 
AZ said:
don't want to ruin the thread by taking personal shots at anyone, unki auqaat pehle hi wazay hai.

good spell early on, fell apart in his second.
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Kudos to you for not giving up on your talent.
 
I request the Mods to delete this thread if OP agrees of course, because some posters here are only interested in personal shots at the OP.
 
I think it will be a positive step if pcb appoint a bowler as a captain. Will be more aggressive.
 
Thread should not be deleted rather those are throwing personal jibes should be dealt.

may be one day Tanvir will get his chance he is still learning the trade
 
So people still want him as captain even his place in ODIs is not automatic?
 
If Najam Sethi can become PCB Chairman, Zaheer Abbas can become honorary adviser to PCB, Moin Khan can become chief selector and team manager, Zakir Khan, Haroon Rasheed, Intikhab Alam. Shuaib Muhammad, Muhammad Iyas, Saleem Jaffer, Iqbal Qasim and hundreds of other incompetant and non-qualified leeches can suck on PCB's finances for decades then I say, BRING IT ON !!!

Sohail Tanvir for captain
Imran Farhat for vice captain
and Faisal Iqbal for future vice captain.

Way to go !!
 
On my darkest days, this thread is always there to cheer me up.
 
tbh he gets a place in T20 team and the captaincy is also vacant atm so may be if luck in his favour who knows will take him over Afridi as T20 Captain though i hope Shehzad gets it :))
 
Batman said:
To see if AZ still wants it! :jf
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There are some people who are " Dheet" , but the fun part, these threads expose their overall mental well being ;-)

PS: Where is the Fawad Alam being the next captain thread?
 
I used to say something along the lines of the OP about this back when he was at his peak in 2007-08.

Now, he's a trundler. An improved trundler. But a trundler.

We don't want to make a trundler a permanent fixture in our team. He should be included in when he performs, but we cant afford to have him as a captain.
 
Sohail Tanvir As Captain in ODI/T20I?

In T20I cricket i wud always pick Tanvir over Shehzad as a captain.
 
Let's have a look at his credentials:

1. Vastly experienced.
2. Still 29.
3. Has captained Rawalpindi domestically.

I'd be fine with his as captain, it's not like it's going to be long term anyway.
 
Beast knock for Zouks right now. 277.8 sr fastest 50 CPL

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mussu-100 said:
Let's have a look at his credentials:

1. Vastly experienced.
2. Still 29.
3. Has captained Rawalpindi domestically.

I'd be fine with his as captain, it's not like it's going to be long term anyway.
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4. He's a useless bowler.

Just because he has captaincy experience and experience as a bowler, you'll take him as captain without even considering his bowling? Talk about a non-performing captain!
 
Square Drive said:
4. He's a useless bowler.

Just because he has captaincy experience and experience as a bowler, you'll take him as captain without even considering his bowling? Talk about a non-performing captain!
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He is far from useless as a T20 pacer. He's our best one!

Plus he is handy with the bat. I don't see what's wrong.
 
mussu-100 said:
He is far from useless as a T20 pacer. He's our best one!

Plus he is handy with the bat. I don't see what's wrong.
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Our best pacer in T20Is? Certainly not. That has to be Gul, even after his recent dip in form.

Plus, if we make Tanvir our T20I skipper, chances are that he'll make it to the ODI/Test line-ups as well - can't afford that to happen at any cost!
 
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