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This is what happens when you load the side with trundlers. lol
Tell that to Dravid. He wants consistency. These guys are getting hit consistently.
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This is what happens when you load the side with trundlers. lol
I turned the game off thinking India would win comfortably. RRR was 12 and Rassie was playing slow.
What a turn around.
Hiding behind the trundler excuse for far too long here. Every year we hear about phaast bowlers from IPL but when the time comes to represent India we get these sharmas and kumars. Even Rabada and Nortje went for plenty of runs. Umran's bowling figures would have looked similar to Pandya's today.![]()
Tell that to Dravid. He wants consistency. These guys are getting hit consistently.
This is time pass and entertainment stuff from Cricbuzz.![]()
Give the youngsters a break man.
This is a young team and for the first time India is not playing its first choice XI in a long time. All we want to see is the best choice XI gets selected and they perform.
Always good to see IPL superstars getting hammered. Look at chahal's figures not even trusted to bowl full quota of overs. Too many IPL based selections.
Need 2-3 IPL per year
Always good to see IPL superstars getting hammered. Look at chahal's figures not even trusted to bowl full quota of overs. Too many IPL based selections.
Need 2-3 IPL per year
Same SA guys also played in IPL. THey also conceded 211 runs. Nortje, Rabada. world no.1 ranked bowler Shamsi lol WHat does that tell you.
Tell that to Dravid. He wants consistency. These guys are getting hit consistently.
How do these guys keep losing these white ball games to the safferz.
Indian white ball team is pretty poor these days and we keep hearing about bowling talent in the IPL.
Same SA guys also played in IPL. THey also conceded 211 runs. Nortje, Rabada. world no.1 ranked bowler Shamsi lol WHat does that tell you.
WHen Bharat Arun was with INdia as bowling coach emphasis was on pace. Now back to trundlers. Far too many trundlers are backed by Dravid. All are knuckle ball specialists.
How do these guys keep losing these white ball games to the safferz.
Indian white ball team is pretty poor these days and we keep hearing about bowling talent in the IPL.
Arun is still our bowling coach..
Miller and VD dussen are good performers at international level too. They are quality cricketers regardless. But harshal chahal hardik(trusted to bowl like IPL) Avesh are all ordinary bowlers. No way India shoulf have lost after scoring 200+
This is a dress rehearsal/ audtion for many for IPL. In fact most T20I bilateral matches are. That makes it the right thread.
For what it’s worth, this is our first T20I loss to SA after 12 consecutive wins. Enjoy the loss but need to hold it in a little at times unless provocation is the motive.
Miller and VD dussen are good performers at international level too. They are quality cricketers regardless. But harshal chahal hardik(trusted to bowl like IPL) Avesh are all ordinary bowlers. No way India shoulf have lost after scoring 200+
Dude you really should make up your mind now. You are taking these auditions too seriously and getting provoked very easily.![]()
VD dussen sucked balls in the IPL. Even here until his catch was dropped he was also sucking balls scoring 30 in 31 balls lol Miller is the sole reason they came back in the game. Miller sucked big time in IPL for 7 or 8 seasons in a row. Finally found touch this season. It is all about form. Don't talk about "quality" in format. Absolute rubbish players can play some blinders.
VD dussen sucked balls in the IPL. Even here until his catch was dropped he was also sucking balls scoring 30 in 31 balls lol Miller is the sole reason they came back in the game. Miller sucked big time in IPL for 7 or 8 seasons in a row. Finally found touch this season. It is all about form. Don't talk about "quality" in format. Absolute rubbish players can play some blinders.
Glass half empty, glass half full. It’s a t20 bilateral game and not the end of the world but having said that our batting line up with our main top order- Rohit, Kohli, SKY, Rahul put up a 200+ score against a SA first X1 with Rabada, Nortje, Shamsi etc. obviously that’s no fun discussing.
My point is why do India pick trundlers from IPL?? We know there is a difference in standards when compared to international cricket. Arent there good seasoned FC bowlers in India.
India are playing at home. Conditions should suit their bowlers a lot more than SA. Y cant they defend 200+ against a side not expected to play spin well.
Isn't Pharas mamphrey our coach for bowling?
It’s Paras Mhambrey now![]()
Was this a spin track?
VD Dussen is probably the most underrated batsman in the world. He has been excellent across all formats since his debut and has performed against heavyweight teams.
He might not have performed well in the IPL but there are no question marks on his quality. He is world class.
Can Indian spinners only bowl on spin tracks?
For what it’s worth, this is our first T20I loss to SA after 12 consecutive wins. Enjoy the loss but need to hold it in a little at times unless provocation is the motive.
Can Indian spinners only bowl on spin tracks?
He is world-class. But he was tied down by spinners big time. A reason why he was dropped after some time from playing XI. Pant for some bizarre reasons hardly used Chahal against him.
Not sure about that but on a 200+ run T20 wicket against world class hitters ,I would assume odds are stacked against any spinner.
I think you are setting your standards very high comparing with long line of available Pakistani spin resources who might run through sides on this pitch.
Indias last few white ball fixtures against southafrica, including a weakened southafrican team read something like
Lost
Lost
Lost
Lost
Lost
Lost
I think Avesh, Harshal and Axaar are extremely over rated players.
India has wealth of bowling resources they should have used. I think that Sikh bowler and Mohsin are much better. Also kuldeep is probably much better than Axar.
I think Avesh, Harshal and Axaar are extremely over rated players.
India has wealth of bowling resources they should have used. I think that Sikh bowler and Mohsin are much better. Also kuldeep is probably much better than Axar.
Not sure about that but on a 200+ run T20 wicket against world class hitters ,I would assume odds are stacked against any spinner.
I think you are setting your standards very high comparing with long line of available Pakistani spin resources who might run through sides on this pitch.
Pant as captain looked like a rabbit in the headlights/.
Clueless, lost and lacking any ideas and innovation.
No, I expect Indians to have better resources really. Dont like the look of TTF's chahal and karthik who are being recycled. And whoever thinks avesh can become a good fast bowler obviously hasnt seen him laboring to the crease. He's too fat and unathletic. Harshal bowls only slower ones.
Pak spin resources are not great either but the way shadab bowled in last T20 world cup was very heartening. Dont think any Indian spinner can match him in this format atm
I feel Dravid is overrated as a coach. His team selection is not good.
I think Avesh, Harshal and Axaar are extremely over rated players.
India has wealth of bowling resources they should have used. I think that Sikh bowler and Mohsin are much better. Also kuldeep is probably much better than Axar.
Well that was quite an embarrassing display by the IPL in form XI
International cricket is a different animal all together.
Before this series i said that India will pick trundlers bowling 10 variations of slower balls thinking because of their accuracy. Bhuvi doesn't take wickets. Harshal doesn't take wickets until the pitch is slow and gripping. But team management will pick them and they will be slaughtered. It happened.
If anyone thinks that by bowling 4 economical overs upfront match is done, they are wrong. Teams will just play off first 2 overs of bhuvi out and then take him to cleaners later.
Only Avesh got spared. Why? Because he bowls a heavy ball and hits the deck and hard length.
India bowling looked terrible Avesh is ok.
its strange to see the best wicket taking bowlers in ipl not being played in this match
umran, mohsin were really awesome. add arshdeep with his accuracy and yorkers.
unclear what dravid is thinking . my best guess is he is trying to given harshal and bhuvi opportunities to fail.
this series is very helpful imo to weed out the worst bowlers. its unfortunate that kohli is not playng. we could have weeded him out too.
on the positive side, ishan kishan is a breath of fresh air. limited talent but gives it all and doe snot waste deliveries.
i am hoping though that shami, bumrah , umran , deepak chahar, mohsin and arshdeep will be our bowlers coupled with hardik and shardul as our allrounders. aussie tracks will support above attack . chahal and bishnoi should be the spinners with rahul, rohit, sky , kishan, karthick , pant and shreyas/v aiyer as middle order with jadeja as our spin all rounder.
its a decent t20 side if bowling is rightly sorted out
lol, we have been saying like this for ages now. Thrashings won't improve our selections, its beyond hopeless.All said and done, thrashings like this will only help improve the selection.
RVD who can’t get an IPL gig slog sweeping Bhuvaneshwar Kumar for 6
Yeh hai Tumhari premier league????
wow SA.
A crushing win.
Yes it will remain humari Indian premier league and no Pakistani will ever get a contract.