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South Africa [286 and 130] beat India [209 and 135] by 72 runs in the first Test to take 1-0 series

Well....Bhuvi, Bumrah and Pandya all have sub 30 bowling averages at the moment! With Shami's average hovering just around 30....

Ashwin already has a sub 30 average. Who would have thought this with the reputation our bowlers have earned over the years..
 
The body language of the indians right from ball one today was outstanding..kohli gets the credit for this ...hope the batsmen also continue this swagger..
 
Interesting to see how they approach this target - should go guns blazing and knock off first 50 and then take time
 
MenInG said:
Interesting to see how they approach this target - should go guns blazing and knock off first 50 and then take time
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A quick fire inns from dharwan or pandya and a large chuck of total will be wiped out. Plenty time to knock runs off as well.
 
All India need to do is to match their first innings score and they will be fine:)
 
MenInG said:
Interesting to see how they approach this target - should go guns blazing and knock off first 50 and then take time
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Dhawan wont sit there and defend. He will throw his bat at everything. The longer he stays, the faster the runs will come. Saffers will have to take Dhawan out very quickly.
 
I have a lot of bad memories about India's small chases. The (in) famous 97 AO chasing 120 immediately comes to my mind...

How I hope that would not be the case today....cmon boys. We might never get such a chance again..Pls pull this off for simple fans like yours truly.
 
MenInG said:
Equally bad teams in this series?
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Don't get this, this has been entertaining and quick with great cricket played, barring may be 3-4 of the 30 wickets it has been down to some great bowling aided by a spicy pitch and we have seen some good batting innings from likes of abd and pandya
 
In Tailunt we believe.

On a serious note, this test will be a test of Kohli's nerves. The bowlers have put them in a winning position, & being the best batsman in the team, he will have to lift his game.
 
If we lose this by a small margin Kohli is going to get a hammering in press for not picking rahane.
 
MenInG said:
Interesting to see how they approach this target - should go guns blazing and knock off first 50 and then take time
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With Dhawan there, they will at least have someone scoring from one end. Vijay is an accumulator and won't be one to set the pace.

The issue for India will be if Dhawan gets out quickly, and then you have Vijay and Pujara blocking it out for a while, sucking all momentum out of the chase.

Interesting to see what Kohli will do in that instance...I can see him or someone else (Sharma) moving up to 3 if Dhawan does indeed fall early.
 
Madplayer said:
:)) they dont even have steyn. If India cant even win this, they should pack up and leave.
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Better this time but not by much won't get more than a 5.

They also have rabada, philander and morkel a pace trio rivalled only by Australia's trio and a spinner who seems decent in not so helpful conditions and we are playing with 5 batsman 2 of whom are Rohit and dhawan.
 
cr7great said:
india wont get 10 wicket in any inning
india has a joke bowling
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Cry baby has gone into hiding. The fact is WE bcz of our brittle batting line up will still lose the test but , the bowling in spite of not having a perfect selection has delivered
 
Lets not forget we still have only 3 batsmen , I would effectively add another 100 to the total ..with too much pressure on VJ , Virat and Pujara .
 
Madplayer said:
:)) they dont even have steyn. If India cant even win this, they should pack up and leave.
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Lol calm down. We have 2 of out best over seas bats warming the benches, we will be all out below 150.But the bowlers again proved a point,with Kuldeep it would have been even better...but happy for now
 
jagatk said:
Better this time but not by much won't get more than a 5.

They also have rabada, philander and morkel a pace trio rivalled only by Australia's trio and a spinner who seems decent in not so helpful conditions and we are playing with 5 batsman 2 of whom are Rohit and dhawan.
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You have Pandya. Ashwin and Bhuvneshwar can score too. Kohli and vijay wont fail twice.
 
lehen said:
Lol calm down. We have 2 of out best over seas bats warming the benches, we will be all out below 150.But the bowlers again proved a point,with Kuldeep it would have been even better...but happy for now
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You mean Indian batting is so poor that they cant score 200 runs against an attack which has lost their frontline bowler?
 
Madplayer said:
You have Pandya. Ashwin and Bhuvneshwar can score too. Kohli and vijay wont fail twice.
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Pandya won't be that good again while I don't think Kohli and Vijay will fail again it is just too much for them. That stupid 30 run partnership between maharaj and abd will be the eventual difference.
 
samplepiece said:
The front line bowlers in this match are Rabada and Phillander tbh.
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Why are you replying him ? He is trying to cover up now both results. If india wins then their main bowler was not fit and if india looses then you know india batting is so poor even when their main bowler didnt bowl.
 
Depends on how pitch is for this session. It looked helpful in morning but not sure how it will play now. Vijay Pujara and Kohli are important wickets. If Dhawan gives 30 - 40 runs quick start that might help alot.
 
Madplayer said:
You mean Indian batting is so poor that they cant score 200 runs against an attack which has lost their frontline bowler?
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No offence but Steyn is 4th best bowler in this match.. Ofcourse his loss will hurt SA but that is because it will put more burden on Rabada and Others..
 
True test for Indian batsmen this is the time to stamp that we have evolved from our predecessors and can actually win such matches.. Let’s see what happens
 
akki said:
Why are you replying him ? He is trying to cover up now both results. If india wins then their main bowler was not fit and if india looses then you know india batting is so poor even when their main bowler didnt bowl.
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So now you direct posters who to reply and who not to reply? Go baby sit someone else. We are just having a discussion. Thats what people do on a cricket forum if you dont know that.

It is obviously a big achievement to win in SA looking at the overall test match.
 
Morkel can make or break this game. If he is his mediocre self, he can win the game for India. However, if he gets his radar right which he does every now and then, he can seriously jolt India.
 
jusarrived said:
it is pretty poor , probably the weakest batting lineup we have played in 15+ years
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This is definitely the worst top 5 we have played in a long while. But thanks to Ashwin, Pandya and Bhuvi, we are effectively still a par batting line-up.
 
Madplayer said:
You mean Indian batting is so poor that they cant score 200 runs against an attack which has lost their frontline bowler?
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Think Steyn has been out for such a long time, that he no longer qualifies as the front-line bowler.

The pace trio that SA have + Maharaj on a pitch that is offering uneven bounce is more than capable enough to take 10 Indian wickets in the 4th innings. Its the Indian batting that will have to lift themselves a gear. Dhawan, Kohli and Sharma - technique suspect against the moving ball. Out of the 3, only Kohli has the class to overcome it.

As some other posters mentioned, puts a lot of pressure on Pujara and Vijay. And on this pitch, you are never really in, can get out anytime with a ball that has your name on it.

Would back SA here 9 times out of 10. What is critical for India is the start. If they can make 20 overs with only 2 down max, they still have a chance. Otherwise game over.
 
With the conditions being so bowler friendly, no point in defending..must play attacking shots like pandya in first innings..
 
jagatk said:
Pandya won't be that good again while I don't think Kohli and Vijay will fail again it is just too much for them. That stupid 30 run partnership between maharaj and abd will be the eventual difference.
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To be very honest, it is going to be challenging but certainly not as difficult as you guys are trying to make it. Infact its India who is in the driving seat right now.
 
If these batters go into their shell, they won't get anywhere & probably get out. They have to keep rotating the strike or else India will get into a hole.
 
Madplayer said:
You mean Indian batting is so poor that they cant score 200 runs against an attack which has lost their frontline bowler?
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Our batting line up for this test is one of the weakest among the top 6 test playing teams ,so YES
 
lehen said:
25 years IMO. even Saha is the 4th best bat in this line up in these conditions, so u can imagine
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This batting might be weak but not that weak not to chase 208.They might struggle but will make it. Seconsly dont forget southafrica also drop catches and they are a bowler short. plus the sun has eased out the pitch
 
lehen said:
25 years IMO. even Saha is the 4th best bat in this line up in these conditions, so u can imagine
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jusarrived said:
it is pretty poor , probably the weakest batting lineup we have played in 15+ years
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You had Sachin, Dravid, VVS, Sehwag who are better than the current crop of players so obviously compared to them it will be a weaker batting line up.. Having said that the current players have something which past players only had in times of luxury a good bowling attack as a pack..
 
Well if Dhawan makes a flashy 30+ innings and Rohit involves in an easy unbeaten winning partnership with Kohli (in fact if we win this match), then we may well go in with the same XI for rest of the series! Does it help it in the long run (following the next overseas tours and rather rest of this series itself!) Not that I want to lose this match!
 
28/0 With this start india should win this. They are taking runs on almost every ball like odi cricket.
 
Morkel is going to win it for India. I said it from the start. If Kohli starts believing, the whole team starts doing the same. His expressions tell the whole story. plus the review taken. I was actually laughing when someone said that Indias chances are gone with the rain. All it has done is increased.
 
What great 2 reviews by Murli Vijay today. Looks like has luck as well.
 
big_gamer007 said:
You had Sachin, Dravid, VVS, Sehwag who are better than the current crop of players so obviously compared to them it will be a weaker batting line up.. Having said that the current players have something which past players only had in times of luxury a good bowling attack as a pack..
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Absolutely, that is why we have hopes this year (good bowling attack). But we shouldn't get carried away and make crap selections like this match and be happy because some guys punched above their weights (Pandya) and South Africa miscalculated (even the decision at toss was poor)
 
So basically this is a fight between Indian batsman's ability to screw up and fate which clearly wants us to win. Let's see who wins
 
Easy win for India. South Africa as usual choked under pressure made Bumrah, Shami, Pandya and Kumar like Walsh, Mcgrath, Wasim and Marshall
 
SA playing with 3 bowlers. Don't think Maharaj would be useful on this track. This has to be a complete choke from India for SA to win this.
 
Thank God some reality check! Now lets hope Vijay & Pujara does the hard (proper) work and brings the target within limits!
 
Openers gone! One more wicket and south africa will be win this easily.
 
This could be one of the great Tests. Spicy pitch, momentum swinging back and forth, and a tense finale.

Compare this to the absolute rubbish we've seen in Australia in the last three years, and in the recent Ashes, on lifeless, flat decks where batsmen are plundering runs at will.

Pressure is on.
 
A real challenge for Kohli here (I don't think he had anything like this before, chasing in a test match). Can he pull it off like he does in LOIs (has done that even outside India) Can he overcome the moving ball & the additional pressure of Test Cricket?
 
RamLakhan said:
A real challenge for Kohli here (I don't think he had anything like this before, chasing in a test match). Can he pull it off like he does in LOIs (has done that even outside India) Can he overcome the moving ball & the additional pressure of Test Cricket?
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When kohli chased against quality side outside india?
 
How much we are missing Rahul here, he might have got that 50 with controlled aggression which would have been GOLD here! Vijay was more comfortable with Rahul as opener (who used to see of good balls & attack bad ones)
 
Indian batsmen should remember that South Africa are playing with 3 seamers here... Need to find a way to tire the bowlers not just by blocking or not by just blind attacking (though its difficult on this pitch with bowler gaining confidence every time it assists them!)
 
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