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South Africa end Day 1 at 123/2 after bowling Pakistan out for 177

Even if Sa end up winning this, i don't think it was the right decision. This pitch was not a bowling pitch at all. No swing in the air or seam off the pitch. Te others were bowling quick and hitting the deck hard to get something out of it.

PAK lost the 1st innings (probably game as well) in morning session - no way it’s a wicket for 5/51 start. Had they gone to lunch 2, max 3 down could have batted the whole day and a bit. PAK’s last 5 wickets put more than twice of first 5, which should score indicate comparatively how easy it was once the Kookaburra is 25 overs old.

This collapsing in one session is becoming a fashion for PAK these days - at least 7/8 Tests in last few years have been blown in one session from a drawing or even winning position. This is the negative contribution of PSL and T20 culture, fueled by the FC system, which is basically a 250 overs joke of 4 extended LO innings.
 
Mickey wants (or wanted) to create a team that can compete anywhere, and that is why he was interesting in blooding all-rounders instead of relying on 2-3 specialist spinners to win matches in the UAE.

However, our all-rounders like Faheem, Shadab etc. are trash and the so-called senior batsmen have not stepped up after Younis and Misbah. Mickey's biggest problem so far has been his obsession with all-rounders. He has been here for y years now and about time he realises that we do not have players like Stokes, Pandya and Curran.

I blew my top in the Asia Cup when glorified tail-enders like Shadab and Faheem were walking to the crease in the Asia Cup with more than half of the innings still to go.

He is a very good coach but it is becoming increasingly obvious that he a misfit in our rotten culture. I wonder who the next coach will be. It will most definitely be a local.

Honestly I don't disagree with you on your diagnosis about player resources etc, but you are letting Arthur off the hook here, he has proven himself NOT to be a very good coach. And that's not just his Pakistan stint. He is a coach who's too firmly married to his pre-conceptions about team balance, and repeatedly demonstrated an inability to be flexible in his thinking and adapt to situations - whether its player management with aus, or team selection regarding conditions. Sure, relative to some other coaches, he may look better in comparison because his heart is in the right place etc, but tactically he's not too far ahead of Shastri. And I hate Shastri as a tactical coach.
 
Younis would not be a bad option to replace Mickey after the World Cup, provided that he can settle his differences with the PCB. He is egoistic and proud, and will not take crap from the selectors, plus he works very well with young players. The other upside is that it will keep the Karachi lobby quiet as well.

The downside is that is not going to make any difference in terms of results because we simply don't have the quality.

Dont think keeping the karachi lobby happy should be any kind of prerequisite for anything
 
Mickey wants (or wanted) to create a team that can compete anywhere, and that is why he was interesting in blooding all-rounders instead of relying on 2-3 specialist spinners to win matches in the UAE.

However, our all-rounders like Faheem, Shadab etc. are trash and the so-called senior batsmen have not stepped up after Younis and Misbah. Mickey's biggest problem so far has been his obsession with all-rounders. He has been here for y years now and about time he realises that we do not have players like Stokes, Pandya and Curran.

I blew my top in the Asia Cup when glorified tail-enders like Shadab and Faheem were walking to the crease in the Asia Cup with more than half of the innings still to go.

He is a very good coach but it is becoming increasingly obvious that he a misfit in our rotten culture. I wonder who the next coach will be. It will most definitely be a local.

We @ India stopped rating Pandya highly - of late he is not making any impact with either bat or ball on the test front...
 
India scored 209`on the same ground last year so tbh - Pakistan havent done too badly.
 
And [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] btw, a spin bowling allrounder (Dilruwan) ended up being the difference in that series loss to SL IIRC - and you can't tell me that Pakistan don't have someone of that mediocre calibre. Even if you accept your theory of Mickey wanting allrounders, he plain and simple blundered in selection that series. And in BOTH tests. It was a stupid mistake to make, and one that he doubled down on, with disastrous results. Pakistan isn't strong enough a team to afford such blunders.
 
These useless players failed consistently at UAE yet they were still selected for SA. These clueless people brought back Hafeez instead of giving someone else a chance. Sarfraz, Mickey, Inzamam have done nothing right. Now they get humiliated home and away.
 
Pakistan bowling will be key to pakistan making a comback. I think pak has the ability to fold SA under 200. Pakistan must bowl like Asif used to dont hit the deck to hard and just bowl perfect length wickets will fall. SA arent that great battjng side anymore. I will back Yasir to do something useful today aswell.
 
And [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] btw, a spin bowling allrounder (Dilruwan) ended up being the difference in that series loss to SL IIRC - and you can't tell me that Pakistan don't have someone of that mediocre calibre. Even if you accept your theory of Mickey wanting allrounders, he plain and simple blundered in selection that series. And in BOTH tests. It was a stupid mistake to make, and one that he doubled down on, with disastrous results. Pakistan isn't strong enough a team to afford such blunders.

There is no doubt Mickey has been poor in UAE Tests.
 
Amir bowling at 135 kph in his first over with the new ball.
 
India scored 209`on the same ground last year so tbh - Pakistan havent done too badly.
Even Nepal will get 150 all out in 2 sessions. Even if SA get 60 all out pak batsman will find a new way of losing the match.

Writing was on the wall when they failed to chase 129 V SL this batting line up is the worse going around.
 
PAK lost the 1st innings (probably game as well) in morning session - no way it’s a wicket for 5/51 start. Had they gone to lunch 2, max 3 down could have batted the whole day and a bit. PAK’s last 5 wickets put more than twice of first 5, which should score indicate comparatively how easy it was once the Kookaburra is 25 overs old.

This collapsing in one session is becoming a fashion for PAK these days - at least 7/8 Tests in last few years have been blown in one session from a drawing or even winning position. This is the negative contribution of PSL and T20 culture, fueled by the FC system, which is basically a 250 overs joke of 4 extended LO innings.

This is true. If it were a competent batting lineup, they would have loved to bat first here.
 
Even Nepal will get 150 all out in 2 sessions. Even if SA get 60 all out pak batsman will find a new way of losing the match.

Writing was on the wall when they failed to chase 129 V SL this batting line up is the worse going around.

That is why i am surprised SA opted to field first. Pakistan all out for 81 against windies while chasing 188 as well.
 
India scored 209`on the same ground last year so tbh - Pakistan havent done too badly.

India played on a lot greener and seam friendly wicket than this one. You can't just ignore the mediocrity of this batting line up by comparing and cross referring.
 
Pitch is very flat our batsman are just awful . I dont think we can blame our bowlers at all. There hasnt been one inch of movement of the pitch just they have peppered us with short pitch bowling and got all 10 wickets
 
There is a blunder in selection of All-rounders. For Test, all-rounder MUST contribute with bat only if his selection makes sense with ball. In that regard Pandeya is closer to Shadab than Fahim. IND realised that quickly, so Pandeya is out of Test - first XI, now squad; PAK is still picking both of them in squad, which is basically wastage of 2 spots, probably Shadab is bigger waste than Fahim (whose bowling in such conditions is yet to be seen).


Dilruhan should never be considered even in same line with these 3 because on spin friendly condition he has probably ~6 wickets/Test @ 23-25 average and 2 10 fors and probably a 4+ haul in alternate innings. Then he bats at 25+ average in such conditions. Our Miraz’s stats are equally impressive around 70 wickets in 14 Tests in such conditions and he bats at similar average with 8 5fors & 2 10fors. Similarly, Holder is a genuine Test all-rounder who makes XI on bowling merit. Stokes made his mark as all-rounder when he started to contribute with ball and that should be the only filter for Test class all-rounder. In that regard, I am sure Gohar in Asia and Amir/Hasan outside are better all-round prospect than Shadab & Fahim respectly. I do think, Amad Butt has better chance to become a #8 bowling all rounder than the two picked here.

In past, PAK produced the highest number of quality bowling all-rounders - from Fazal (who was quite accomplished no. 8) to last one Saqline. Since then almost nothing and potentials like Yasir, Wahab, Gul didn’t develop their all round skills - ONLY reason is these 250 overs model FC cricket that basically doesn’t give any chance to bowlers on their batting potential, doesn’t give chance to batting spinners like Afridi or Shadab to bowl enough overs. Cricket is a slow, learning game in a lengthy process - unless FC game duration is made bare minimum to standard, let alone all-rounders, adequate Test quality batsmen or bowler won’t be there; what will be left is T20 Hero - bat like Asif Ali, Bowl like Shadab.
 
AMir is not able to bend the ball back in. He totally relies on angle finds the edge of Markram. So far Markram has survived.
 
Amir if you cant get a wicket at least keep it tight , let some pressure build on the other end.
 
Holdings analysis is so ear-soothing, man make him the bowling coach...
 
They are already looking comfortable.As the ball gets older they will decimate us.
Just looking at our batsmen is making me furious.
Abbas doing well but need wickets.
 
Need to bring Afridi in, he will do well on this pitch
 
What are the speeds of a well rested and fresh Amir? Can someone help as I’m unable to watch.
 
Amir should have never played this match. Hasan is superior. Moves the ball better, attacks the stumps and is more threatening.
 
Amir is satisfied with his batting, and he knows his spot is safe for that batting effort 😩
 
Abbas is bowling nicely but dosen't look 100%. Perhaps only because of him playing 1st game in South Africa?
 
Beautiful batting pitch.

For the bowlers, this is a pitch where you need to hit the pitch hard and bowl with pace. None of those two things do Pakistan possess. Could be a long two days in the field here. Abbas will be the poorest bowler in this match.
 
They are already looking comfortable.As the ball gets older they will decimate us.
Just looking at our batsmen is making me furious.
Abbas doing well but need wickets.

As a unit they are still weak with lot of self-doubts. Pakistan can create an opening and run through the top order.
 
Is the pitch less bowling friendly compared to last game?

I posted here after 1st over of match that this pitch not half as spicy as the Centurion one .
To restrict hosts to around 300-325 , you will need some wickets from Yasir .
 
SA should look to bat on and on. Tire the Pakistani pacers. Amir would stop putting whatever effort he is putting. Abbas will most probably break down in this or before the next test. Shaheen will be put under pressure with Hasan unfairly dropped.
 
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normally spins in cape town on day 4 and 5 but South Africa know very well its never going to get that far
 
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