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South Africa v Australia | 1st Test | Centurion | Day 3 | 14 February 2014

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This is where Warner comes to life. Australia on top and he keeps his foot on the oppositions throat
 
I would like to see Warner bat against Phil.

Let's see what Phil is made of
 
Warner could take game away from S.A very quickly here, looks like S.A could be chasing 400 plus here!
 
the OZ have returned. what difference belief and confidence can make. Love the way lehman has brought that winning mentality back! reminds me of the 87-90 team.
 
Done with this match. Dropping crucial catches deserves a loss - that's schoolboy crap. Well done Aus.
 
still think the oz are susceptible to good spin bowling. Slog sweeps can only get you so far.
 
What is wrong with South Africa. Kallis would have made a difference but not so much.

BUt just shows how slip catching is a such a difficult art to master!
 
lol @ South Africa, I always knew they were a fraud side, the warning signs were always there especially when a bunch of Indian kids with limited experience nearly stole their thunder during the test series..... I predicted an AUS WIN and looks like its heading that way...
 
Enjoying watching doolan tough it out, so many of our lot just throw it away when the bowlers are on top he just hung in and is now looking pretty good.
 
Romali_rotti said:
lol @ South Africa, I always knew they were a fraud side, the warning signs were always there especially when a bunch of Indian kids with limited experience nearly stole their thunder during the test series..... I predicted an AUS WIN and looks like its heading that way...
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Romali_rotti said:
lol @ South Africa, I always knew they were a fraud side, the warning signs were always there especially when a bunch of Indian kids with limited experience nearly stole their thunder during the test series..... I predicted an AUS WIN and looks like its heading that way...
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The only reason India were not whitewashed in that series was because Steyn and Philander didn't go for the win in the first game. WHat do you mean by nearly stealing their thunder?
 
So much time left in the match. Where will the Aussies declare if they don't get bowled out? I think they will declare by lunch tomorrow, giving SA to chase 500+ in 5 sessions.
 
Bilal7 said:
The only reason India were not whitewashed in that series was because Steyn and Philander didn't go for the win in the first game. WHat do you mean by nearly stealing their thunder?
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Making RSA chase 450 in the 4th innings. That does not happen to them often.
 
Bilal7 said:
The only reason India were not whitewashed in that series was because Steyn and Philander didn't go for the win in the first game.

Oh really ? And during this chase for a win they may well have made mistakes and lost their wickets just as quickly giving India the win.....

WHat do you mean by nearly stealing their thunder?


Had the Indian bowling been better we may have even won the test series..........
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lol SA had to wait till the 5th day of the last test against a bunch of inexperienced Indian kids barring Dhoni to get a series win :))
 
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IndianWillow said:
Making RSA chase 450 in the 4th innings. That does not happen to them often.
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Seeing them come so close means there was something wrong with the pitch. Teams just don't come close to chasing 450+ in the last innings.
 
Romali_rotti said:
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lol SA had to wait till the 5th day of the last test against a bunch of inexperienced Indian kids barring Dhoni to get a series win :))
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Well had our batting been better we would have beaten South Africa too. Had England's batting and bowling been better they would have beaten Australia. Had Bangladesh been a better team they would have beaten the Lankans. That much is pretty simple.

I think the youthful nature of the Indian test team is helping them play some pressure free cricket. Their much more experienced ODI side played a lot worse then their test team so inexperience wasn't really a major factor, in my opinion.
 
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Bilal7 said:
Seeing them come so close means there was something wrong with the pitch. Teams just don't come close to chasing 450+ in the last innings.
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There was nothing wrong, Indian bowlers were not upto it........
 
Bilal7 said:
Seeing them come so close means there was something wrong with the pitch. Teams just don't come close to chasing 450+ in the last innings.
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Nothing wrong with the pitch. The pace bowling was very ordinary on the fifth day. It was not a spin pitch either, so spinners were ineffective. I would not be surprised if Bangladesh could score 300 on the final day against that bowling.
 
Romali_rotti said:
There was nothing wrong, Indian bowlers were not upto it........
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Come on man, those pitches were definitely flatter than usual. The Indian batsmen played exceptionally well, no doubt but there was a clear difference between the ODI and test pitches of that series.
 
Bilal7 said:
Well had our batting been better we would have beaten South Africa too. Had England's batting and bowling been better they would have beaten Australia. Had Bangladesh been a better team they would have beaten the Lankans. That much is pretty simple.
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Yeah I gotta agree, had Moin Khan not taken the greatest bump catch of all time during the 99 Chennai test match, SRTs 100 would've been considered the greatest of all time...
 
IndianWillow said:
Nothing wrong with the pitch. The pace bowling was very ordinary on the fifth day. It was not a spin pitch either, so spinners were ineffective. I would not be surprised if Bangladesh could score 300 on the final day against that bowling.
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But it wasn't just the Indian bowling, the SOuth AFrican bowlers conceded 450 didn't they?
 
Bilal7 said:
Come on man, those pitches were definitely flatter than usual. The Indian batsmen played exceptionally well, no doubt but there was a clear difference between the ODI and test pitches of that series.
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The ODI wickets India got were a lot quicker than the ones Pak got, but I saw the whole test series those test wickets looked exactly the same as what Aus/SA is playing on currently which I am watching live. Give credit where its due, Indian kids did well with the bat on bouncy wickets end off.........
 
Romali_rotti said:
The ODI wickets India got were a lot quicker than the ones Pak got, but I saw the whole test series those test wickets looked exactly the same as what Aus/SA is playing on currently which I am watching live. Give credit where its due, Indian kids did well with the bat on bouncy wickets end off.........
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I've already given them credit but the pitches in that series were definitely flatter. End off...
 
Bilal7 said:
But it wasn't just the Indian bowling, the SOuth AFrican bowlers conceded 450 didn't they?
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So why they did not score in the first innings? South African bowlers probably had an off day - and secondly, the Indian batsmen really played them well by leaving all deliveries that would not hit the stump. South African bowlers are not as good with the old ball as they are with the new ball, and Kohli and Pujara made full use of this on day three.
 
Bilal7 said:
Some fan, eh? Good and bad performances are part of this game, buddy.
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Nope, nothing wrong with accepting that you're outplayed. I'll still support them in the next match and hope they up their game, but I feel this one is gone.
 
Bilal7 said:
I've already given them credit but the pitches in that series were definitely flatter. End off...
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Pitches were easier than the ODI ones however they had a lot of pace and bounce, you need to take off your Pak Biased sun glasses......
 
Just looked at the scoreboard @cricinfo rate is @4, 121/1 with 2 full days to go.
What do we call it, again? Ja, sisemasimbeni
 
Jo_Don said:
, but I feel this one is gone.
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Ohhhh its way beyond gone now buddy............ See how the next test goes, how you handle MJ will be the key, he looks much more potent and intimidating than any of your bowlers...
 
Romali_rotti said:
Pitches were easier than the ODI ones however they had a lot of pace and bounce, you need to take off your Pak Biased sun glasses......
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Can you not go three posts without craving to your Pak obsession? What do they have to do with India's series. The bolded is all that I wanted to hear.
 
Jo_Don said:
Nope, nothing wrong with accepting that you're outplayed. I'll still support them in the next match and hope they up their game, but I feel this one is gone.
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South AFrica still have to bat. If I had batsmen like ABD in my team, I wouldn't give up on them until I hear some singing from a fat lady.
 
Bilal7 said:
Can you not go three posts without craving to your Pak obsession? What do they have to do with India's series. The bolded is all that I wanted to hear.
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Pitches were 'easier' don't mean pitches were 'flatter' in my books buddy... You need to let go of the whole India obsession of trying to demean their batting achievements and accept Pujara and Kohli are miles better than anything you currently have...
 
Don't get SA. Only team who's harder to beat when they're playing away than at home :)).

Easy Australian win looks like it.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Oh so the same cant be said when India set SA 450 ?
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Both team's batsmen scored a lot in that match so the pitch was definitely flat. One team has scored here while the other has imploded so the pitch definitely has something in it for the bowlers.
 
ads101 said:
Don't get SA. Only team who's harder to beat when they're playing away than at home :)).

Easy Australian win looks like it.
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Well we're not afraid to prepare pitches that produce results. Unlike Australia and England who prepared pancakes when we toured there, to nullify our bowlers. It is still amusing though :)
 
Bilal7 said:
Both team's batsmen scored a lot in that match so the pitch was definitely flat. One team has scored here while the other has imploded so the pitch definitely has something in it for the bowlers.
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You basing this on the fact Pak batsmen couldn't score much runs in SA, While the Indian and Australians did/doing a lot better ?
 
Romali_rotti said:
Pitches were 'easier' don't mean pitches were 'flatter' in my books buddy... You need to let go of the whole India obsession of trying to demean their batting achievements and accept Pujara and Kohli are miles better than anything you currently have...
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Easier pitches are flatter in my books. Since you've gone back to trolling, I guess this is the end of this discussion.
 
saiyan0312 said:
Is this the same SA that india and we faced. Look at that partnership.
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India were also in a similar position in the 1st test against Sa.
Something like 330/2 when pujara got out and india collapsed to 458.
 
Bilal7 said:
Easier pitches are flatter in my books. Since you've gone back to trolling, I guess this is the end of this discussion.
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Buddy you taking this way too personally, the minute you stop being a sour grape and start giving credit where its due, you will get the props you deserve..........
 
Steyn really needs to step up here and prove why he's an ATG. The only one who can give SOuth Africa a glimmer of hope.
 
Jo_Don said:
Well we're not afraid to prepare pitches that produce results. Unlike Australia and England who prepared pancakes when we toured there, to nullify our bowlers. It is still amusing though :)
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Doesn't explain why you do better in conditions more alien to you though. Like the England series in England, SA played like it was their second home, and Eng were clueless, most couldn't buy a run.

Think SA conditions has helped SA batsmen to be more adaptable, they're much better in that aspect than anyone else which is perhaps why they do better away. And great bowlers tend to do good home and away anyway. They even produce pitches good for spin sometimes despite the lack of a quality spinner (though they do play spin well).

You'd think though just because it's home SA would have the advantage. Just seems at home something always happens, away teams pull off wins, crazy draws (e.g. England and there last wicket stands). They didn't win a home series for a long period of time I remember too. Doesn't make much sense given that usually they did look the better side at home. Only the Aussies in 2009 (I think it was) looked the better side in SA than them in that period. And again it's strange to see SA struggle against Aus so much at home when they beat them in Australia.

Partly I think it simply might be down to they've been a bit unlucky at home. Maybe they've not been haven't played well enough at home to dominate their opposition at home (like England and India in recent times), but also feel they've been a victim to bad luck. Though they have started winning series in SA again so I did think they're luck is changing.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Buddy you taking this way too personally, the minute you stop being a sour grape and start giving credit where its due, you will get the props you deserve..........
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Calm down Anna. India did well in first test against SA, but did equally bad in the 2nd test.
 
Bilal7 said:
Both team's batsmen scored a lot in that match so the pitch was definitely flat. One team has scored here while the other has imploded so the pitch definitely has something in it for the bowlers.
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Bad logic here. Teams score runs under difficult conditions and also collapse under difficult conditions. They score runs in easy conditions and collapse under the same conditions. That is what makes cricket exciting, because you can get different results if two teams play under identical conditions a second time.

What was the nature of the pitch here -
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/514029.html

How come SA could chase 236 with consummate ease on the same pitch Australia were bowled out for 40? By your logic, the pitch itself must have changed.
 
ads101 said:
Doesn't explain why you do better in conditions more alien to you though. Like the England series in England, SA played like it was their second home, and Eng were clueless, most couldn't buy a run.

Think SA conditions has helped SA batsmen to be more adaptable, they're much better in that aspect than anyone else which is perhaps why they do better away. And great bowlers tend to do good home and away anyway. They even produce pitches good for spin sometimes despite the lack of a quality spinner (though they do play spin well).

You'd think though just because it's home SA would have the advantage. Just seems at home something always happens, away teams pull off wins, crazy draws (e.g. England and there last wicket stands). They didn't win a home series for a long period of time I remember too. Doesn't make much sense given that usually they did look the better side at home. Only the Aussies in 2009 (I think it was) looked the better side in SA than them in that period. And again it's strange to see SA struggle against Aus so much at home when they beat them in Australia.

Partly I think it simply might be down to they've been a bit unlucky at home. Maybe they've not been haven't played well enough at home to dominate their opposition at home (like England and India in recent times), but also feel they've been a victim to bad luck. Though they have started winning series in SA again so I did think they're luck is changing.
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There's also immense media and fan pressure at home, something they don't have to deal with as much when touring.

Posted a while back that our fans are the most unforgiving bunch in the world. One loss to them means that heads must roll. Especially when they're playing at home.

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It's not like SA are losing many test series at home, they have lost 2 at home in nearly 10 years and both to the aussies who traditionally don't have the issues there most teams do.
 
trogger said:
It's not like SA are losing many test series at home, they have lost 2 at home in nearly 10 years and both to the aussies who traditionally don't have the issues there most teams do.
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We also don't seem to have the same issues in Australia that other teams do. There's something very bizarre in the symmetry of these two teams. I suppose that's why series between them are usually so competitive.
 
I guess after having to face Johnson in the nets all the time these guys have learnt to bat.
 
IndianWillow said:
Bad logic here. Teams score runs under difficult conditions and also collapse under difficult conditions. They score runs in easy conditions and collapse under the same conditions. That is what makes cricket exciting, because you can get different results if two teams play under identical conditions a second time.

What was the nature of the pitch here -
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/514029.html

How come SA could chase 236 with consummate ease on the same pitch Australia were bowled out for 40? By your logic, the pitch itself must have changed.
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I was trying to explain to the other guy in simpler terms. Obviously there are exceptions such as the game you posted but from what I've seen and what the scorecard suggests, I stand by my stance on that India-South Africa match. We can agree to disagree though.
 
Jo_Don said:
We also don't seem to have the same issues in Australia that other teams do. There's something very bizarre in the symmetry of these two teams. I suppose that's why series between them are usually so competitive.
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Relatively similar conditions.

I still think South Africa are a better team- mainly because I suspect Australia's batting needs favourable conditions.

But we match up well against your guys.
 
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