South Africa v Pakistan | 2nd ODI | Johannesburg | 4th April 2021 | South Africa innings

Shadab has not played a lot of cricket lately due to his fitness issues. The more he play the better he will get. He was bowling well uptil and including 2019 world cup. Both these players are vital clogs in the team as they will provide something in bowling or batting. Shadab fielding also save s plenty of runs.

Fielding.. Good point.. So he is always our 12th man...
 
Shadab has not played a lot of cricket lately due to his fitness issues. The more he play the better he will get. He was bowling well uptil and including 2019 world cup. Both these players are vital clogs in the team as they will provide something in bowling or batting. Shadab fielding also save s plenty of runs.

Let’s hope you and [MENTION=5706]NeVerMind[/MENTION] are right. I am convinced on his lower middle order role and fielding but without his bowling improving, he will stay in and out of the team. Bowlers get figured out over time and need to develop all the time. He has done it with his batting.
 
I'm referring to our quota captain... I hope he loses every game he captains.

Well he has been appointed till 2023 at least. He has done well as a captain at domestic level. He was not my first choice but I can remember some of our fans writing Babar off as a captain. Now he is doing well. Let's see what happens.
 
Spinners generally get hit a lot in Limited over cricket unless the pitch is supporting them. Indian spinners got smashed in India against England. Shamshi
a specialist spinner in last match was no more threatening than Shadab.
 
Faheems fielding has improved as well. Don't forget that catch from the last match.

He is turning into a solid cricketer.
 
This is a very tricky pitch to bat on and will only get worse. There is already some uneven bounce if the ball hits one of those cracks. Pakistan should try and use that to their advantage and keep it below 220....anything more and South Africa will be able to defend it.
 
Faheems improvement means for the 2023 WC we can find a way to play 2 spinners.
 
Pakistan have won one from five ODIs vs South Africa at the Wanderers so not a happy hunting ground, although we did win here in 2019 bowling first.
 
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I'm referring to our quota captain... I hope he loses every game he captains.

Ahh yes. Make de kock the captain again. Probably the least interested captain I’ve seen in my life. But it’s ok right at least he wasn’t a “quota captain”
 
Who do you want then? No point in saying you don't want a captain than not offering a replacement.

I don't want a quota captain. I want a proper captain. Heck, make Andile captain, if he has to be black, he's at least clutch. I remember great finishes from him. Bavuma doesn't belong in the national team.
 
I don't want a quota captain. I want a proper captain. Heck, make Andile captain, if he has to be black, he's at least clutch. I remember great finishes from him. Bavuma doesn't belong in the national team.

So still no real solution. Just anyone that ain't Bavuma which anyone can say.

Bavuma has been appointed till 2023. It is unlikely he will be replaced before then.
 
Gave VDD a life in 1st ODI which nearly costed us, QDK now making us pay in this match.
 
No guts from selectors once again, how can you be so rigid and think every time not to change a winning combo when there are obvious weaknesses in the team. I guarantee you Asif Ali will disappoint, and Haris Rauf as you can see has been as useful as a melted ice cream.
 
Disinterested and not good Quinton De Kock moves on to 54. Some of the opinions of our fans on opposing players is truly hilarious at times.
 
So still no real solution. Just anyone that ain't Bavuma which anyone can say.

Bavuma has been appointed till 2023. It is unlikely he will be replaced before then.

Do you disagree with me on Bavuma? I'm also not paid a lot of money to make this selection. THIS is the best captain they can come up with? Wow... We're doomed.
 
Disinterested and not good Quinton De Kock moves on to 54. Some of the opinions of our fans on opposing players is truly hilarious at times.

Tonty tonty fans

Bavuma ia batting well also, but our fans would had been making threads on him if he was playing loke this for pakistan
 
Do you disagree with me on Bavuma? I'm also not paid a lot of money to make this selection. THIS is the best captain they can come up with? Wow... We're doomed.

I have already said Markham or Van Der Dussen should have been made captain.

But you should know I am someone who will allow something to play out before saying "were doomed ". I can see why Bavuma has been appointed . After a few series, we will know more about him. The main reason I would have not gone for Bavuma though is because it keeps out players like JP Malan,Kyle Verreynne, and Zubayr Hamza.
 
Bavuma is in that weird slot as a player. Just about makes the team, not good enough to stay there for long, but doesn't seem to fail spectacularly enough to get a straight sack.

This of course not counting the fact that he's a quota pick to begin with.
 
Tonty tonty fans

Bavuma ia batting well also, but our fans would had been making threads on him if he was playing loke this for pakistan

The main part of my point is some of our fans don't rate De Kock which is hilarious.

Bavuma is not batting well. He is playing too many dots. If he cannot get bouandires. He should rotate the strike at least.
 
Our middle overs bowling used to be our strength with likes of Ajmal, Afridi and Hafeez.

Now opposition teams are milking us for fun. Shudder to think what'll happen against England in a few months.
 
Shadab excellent fielding saving valuable runs and bowling with good control despite SA looking to go hard er atm.
 
De Kock has been very lucky today, playing and missing, inside edging, ball hitting stumps.

But he’s still there, and potentially can take the game away from Pak.
 
I have already said Markham or Van Der Dussen should have been made captain.

But you should know I am someone who will allow something to play out before saying "were doomed ". I can see why Bavuma has been appointed . After a few series, we will know more about him. The main reason I would have not gone for Bavuma though is because it keeps out players like JP Malan,Kyle Verreynne, and Zubayr Hamza.

Good choices. vd Dussen earns my respect. He really has proven he should have been selected a very long time ago. Another one of CSA's great and many failures.

Cricket in SA are in shambles. I need to stress this point. It is no wonder AB didn't want anything to do with these clowns.
 
The main part of my point is some of our fans don't rate De Kock which is hilarious.

Bavuma is not batting well. He is playing too many dots. If he cannot get bouandires. He should rotate the strike at least.

There is no need.

Quinto os ticking the score card. As long as you bat at a rr of 5 its ok.

Power hitting with miller can compensate you in the end.

First odi sa lost becauee of throwing wickets
 
We haven't properly utilised short bowl on this wicket. Watch Nortje blast through us.
 
Shadab has become the shadow of the bowler he was when he first started.

No drift, no mystery, no turn.

Def something wrong technically.
 
Usual rubbish so far from Shadab.

Dragging the ball down again.
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] is right. Fahim is invaluable to the team. His growth is so visible. Not convinced on Shadab though, because his bowling is just not kicking on.
I think in ODI cricket we should think of Faheem as a Number 8 and Shadab as a Number 6.
 
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