Sreesanth says he's inspired by Mohammad Amir’s comeback after court lifts fixing ban (update #520)

Over 100s of hours of audio recording available with Delhi police, more number of arrests are expected in coming days but they will be of bookies and external agents.
 
I guess he must have done that to help his cousin's business grow
 
"Have you pulled the trigger too early? You could have trapped more?" "I thought you'd ask why such delay. We have been working since April, and we have seen only three players involved. We let them do this, and waited for Chavan - who is a compromised player, we knew - to do what he wanted. Then we knew we won't get more evidence. So we arrested them." - Neeraj Kumar

Not about arrresting them - they are police, they know the details of the case better than any of us, and know when to take that call.

What I mean is telling the world what the case against the 3 is. Exactly what they fixed, signal, who was involved. Let all that come out after they have been charged, and during the trial.
 
Not about arrresting them - they are police, they know the details of the case better than any of us, and know when to take that call.

What I mean is telling the world what the case against the 3 is. Exactly what they fixed, signal, who was involved. Let all that come out after they have been charged, and during the trial.

Absolutely nothing wrong with it. In any high profile case, findings are disclosed to the public. Any which way these findings would have been included in the arrest warrant, so there is nothing confidential about it.
 
Not about arrresting them - they are police, they know the details of the case better than any of us, and know when to take that call.

What I mean is telling the world what the case against the 3 is. Exactly what they fixed, signal, who was involved. Let all that come out after they have been charged, and during the trial.

The evidence is the audio tapes and the money (if it is recovered), not the signals.
 
Sad day for Indian cricket and the game of cricket in general.

But I commend the police for catching these culprits. I have said it for a long time that spot fixing has been going on for donkey years at domestic cricket in the subcontinent.

The truth is IPL or any similar T20 domestic league being played in Asia is a made in Heaven magnet for these illegal betting syndicates because of the huge money involved in placing bets.

This will never be stopped. It can only be controlled.
 
Pakistani fans, I know this story has nothing to do with you - but notice how we aren't campaigning for Sreesanth's re-inclusion into the India fold, unlike Amir? :)
 
Pakistani fans, I know this story has nothing to do with you - but notice how we aren't campaigning for Sreesanth's re-inclusion into the India fold, unlike Amir? :)
C'mon Varun, how can you really even compare the two in terms of ability? One was mediocre and the other was a potential great in the making. You shouldn't forget Sreesanth struggled to break into the indian bowling line which should say it all lol :))
 
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C'mon Varun, how can you really even compare the two in terms of ability? One was mediocre and the other was a potential great in the making. You shouldn't forget Sreesanth struggled to break into the indian bowling line which should say it all lol :))

So is it okay to be a crook if you are talented?
 
C'mon Varun, how can you really even compare the two in terms of ability? One was mediocre and the other was a potential great in the making. You shouldn't forget Sreesanth struggled to break into the indian bowling line which should say it all lol :))

Potential great in the making? lolol... The expression and the person both made me laugh :)))
 
OH MY GOD, this is a dream come true, please please let this be the end of Sreesanth, please please never again into the Indian side and keep him away from Sampson...
 
So is it okay to be a crook if you are talented?
Of course not, I just feel sorry for the lad he was young and naive and was misled by his crooked captain. I can understand where Pakistanis are coming from when they say they want him back. Personally I'd love to see him back because there just aren't many quality fast bowlers going around these days and when you get a gems like Amir you can't be too hasty.
 
Of course not, I just feel sorry for the lad he was young and naive and was misled by his crooked captain.

No he wasn't. He fully well knew what he was getting into. But yes, he did play that card in one of the hearings - to attract the typical sympathy vote that was bound to come his way at the time, and even now.
 
Sreesanth, Chavan and Chandila being questioned in spot-fixing investigation

Sree!!!!! why are these idiots so greedy even with all the money they have!! beats me
 
So, question to all Indian IPL fans/defenders...We were told by most/all of you all along that the reason why a player would be susceptible to match fixing/spot fixing is if he is not educated enough and does not earn enough money...alongwith the fact that their board does not do enough to curb the corruption! And that mostly, Pak players are the guilty ones anyway.

So, what is the argument now considering last year's IPL scandal and now this one...why are these Indian cricketers such easy targets with all the money, education provided by the boards and the scrutiny IPL has been receiving? Is BCCI not doing enough to curb these issues or are the players only the guilty party? Or is it now time to curb down on the thousands of illegal bookies from India?
 
So, question to all Indian IPL fans/defenders...We were told by most/all of you all along that the reason why a player would be susceptible to match fixing/spot fixing is if he is not educated enough and does not earn enough money...alongwith the fact that their board does not do enough to curb the corruption! And that mostly, Pak players are the guilty ones anyway.

So, what is the argument now considering last year's IPL scandal and now this one...why are these Indian cricketers such easy targets with all the money, education provided by the boards and the scrutiny IPL has been receiving? Is BCCI not doing enough to curb these issues or are the players only the guilty party? Or is it now time to curb down on the thousands of illegal bookies from India?

I'm no IPL defender, but the bloke who's been caught in the net this time around is the local retard, Sreesanth.

Turn your generalizations off.
 
Pakistani fans, I know this story has nothing to do with you - but notice how we aren't campaigning for Sreesanth's re-inclusion into the India fold, unlike Amir? :)




Story has just broken in and already the indirect insinuations have started...I see how you are indirectly asking for it...yep yep:msd
 
I'm no IPL defender, but the bloke who's been caught in the net this time around is the local retard, Sreesanth.

Turn your generalizations off.




Here we go, defending started...even the retard has seen a few banned just last year, I guess since the shoe is on the other foot now, it feels different for you ;-)
 
I thought Pak PLayers were not invited because IPL couldn't afford the risk of match fixing etc done by Pakistan alone. :)

Bare bol ka sir neecha, this is not an isolated incident. But would be contained as usual. Sree pissed off BCCI and powers 2 be and has now finished off in most spectacular fashion. Its all bs ofcoz because IPL itself is fixed tournament :)
 
Decent cricinfo article on betting in India.

Note written in 2010.

What is the quantum of money bet on cricket in India? An exact number is impossible to arrive at but the few statistics that are authoritatively available are revealing. Betfair is the world's leading sports betting company. It accepts bets online from registered punters who pay using a credit card. It is also an industry innovator in that odds at Betfair are not set by an individual bookmaker or a consortium but by the market: the odds change as the amount bet on or against a particular team or individual player grows.

Betfair was born in the summer of 2000, coincidentally within a few weeks of the Hansie Cronje match-fixing scandal. The two occurrences were, of course, unrelated. Even so the volume of cash Betfair attracts during cricket matches is telling.

According to insiders, a top golf tournament, say the US Masters, would attract bets worth £2 to 3 million on Betfair. For a smaller sport, with a very limited geography, cricket seems to do better. During the 2010 World Twenty20 in the West Indies, each match drew bets worth £3 to 4 million. In contrast, this year's Indian Premier League, which preceded the World Twenty20 by a few days, saw betting amounting to over £12 million per match on Betfair. "Some of the matches," says an unimpeachable source, "crossed £15 million in bets."

What do these figures indicate? Frankly, they tell us more about India than about the nature of sport. Cricket is big in India and so is betting. That's why cricket matches are magnets for such huge betting opportunities. In contrast, golf is not a mass sport in India and there is no great interest in betting on it. Quite obviously, a large percentage of Betfair's incremental clients - those who become active only during cricket matches and are dormant when it comes to, say, rugby or poker - are either Indian or have an India connection.

Betting is illegal in India and Indian credit cards cannot easily be used on betting sites. To access Betfair, an Indian punter has to have either a bank account or a credit card overseas - perhaps borrowed from a friend or cousin. Alternatively, he has to have legal status (as a foreign-exchange earner or non-resident Indian) permitting him to park money abroad. It is not an easy process.

It is much smoother, however, to get in touch with a bookie in your town. Indian bookies run trusted client networks. Most of them are honest, in that, even if they cheat the tax man, they don't lie about the odds available and ensure payments are made on time. If a would-be punter is introduced to a bookie by another client, he can enter the circle, and must play by the rules.

When a cricket match is on, all one needs to do is call the bookie. (The bookie changes his mobile number frequently but is certain to keep his clients updated.) On being called, the client is offered two figures and two options: "Lagana" and "khana".




Indian bookies run trusted client networks. Most of them are honest, in that, even if they cheat the tax man, they don't lie about the odds available and ensure payments are made on time. If a would-be punter is introduced to a bookie by another client, he can enter the circle, and must play by the rules





This exercise of choice is also a test of the bookie's business ethics. Let's suppose India are playing Australia in an ODI and you want to bet on Australia. The bookie offers you the "lagana" (putting) odds. To show he's not being unfair and giving you incorrect odds, he offers you an option: "khana" (eating), the odds on betting against Australia, and on India. "In this manner you can back a team or 'eat' a team," says a veteran punter. "The bookie has come clean with you."

How large is this bookie-by-phone market? If an IPL match on Betfair gets about £12 to 15 million per match, it would be a safe expectation that the unofficial, cash-only betting economy is much larger. "I would estimate it is 20-25 times as large," says a betting specialist, "maybe even 50 times."

Then and now
Online betting wasn't always this sophisticated or massive, setting odds wasn't as transparent, and the betting revenue was smaller. Even so, much of the narrative in the section above was true 10 years ago. The secretive network of Indian (or South Asian) bookies and their mobile phones, complete with their code language, still dominated cricket-related gambling and fixing.

So what has changed in the past decade? First, the IPL as a phenomenon has gripped not just cricket fans and sponsors but the betting industry as well. That single tournament in the Indian summer attracts a disproportionate amount of betting money. Combined with the fact that the Twenty20 format is so susceptible to a match outcome being decided by just one bad over or one batsman failing at a crucial time, this makes the IPL a potential target for the fixing mafia.


These concerns have been voiced elsewhere. The ICC's Anti-Corruption Unit has spoken on the issue. When the two additional IPL teams were auctioned earlier this year, BCCI officials were worried that if a franchise was won by a small-time bidder that promised to pay an unrealistic licence fee and did not have the backing of an obviously rich business house or billionaire, then it would leave the individual franchise vulnerable to manipulation by the betting mafia. This fear was mentioned in the context of at least one bidder who seemed to have somewhat opaque business links.

The methodology of fixing - or attempted fixing, since very few matches have been proven to have been fixed - has also evolved. A Test match lasts five days. To pre-determine its result, a large number of players, including at least one of the captains, may need to be compromised. Twenty20 cricket is a much shorter format. Here, fixing one or two players is all a corrupt bookie needs to do.

How does this work? Let's say a team is 45 for 2, chasing 150. An in-form batsman walks in and is expected to hit his team out of trouble. As he reaches the crease, the odds still favour his team but marginally. If he fails and gets out in single figures, then the odds could change substantially. Now what if a corrupt bookie knows this cricketer is going to fail? What if he has bet a certain amount using the odds available as the batsman walked in and now waits for him to fail, and for the odds to fall?

"It's a bit like the stock market," explains a punter. "You agree to sell a scrip at Rs 20 at 2pm. But you don't actually have the stock. You know there's a big announcement coming that will cause the stock to drop to Rs 18 at 4pm, and you plan to buy then. So you agree to sell at Rs 20 but wait to buy at Rs 18."

The introduction of market-determined odds and the ability of some websites to allow the punter to - within reasonable limits - set his odds or to "buy" or "sell" his wager on a team at differential odds (and so make a profit) have made such situations feasible.

Such parameters create conditions for what is called "spot fixing": asking a single player to do something - whether get out or bowl three successive loose balls that concede boundaries - that significantly alters the immediate odds but may not necessarily decide the final result. Has this happened in the IPL? Frankly, despite rumours, innuendo and apprehensions, there is no hard evidence. Nevertheless, this is a potential pitfall Twenty20 leagues have to look out for.

Legalise it?
Will legalising betting in India end the fixing menace once and for all? Would bringing Betfair in as a sort of IPL partner - which Lalit Modi had reportedly considered in his time as IPL commissioner - be a good idea?

The answer is a mixed one. In a country that bets on everything from cricket matches to the amount of rain that will fall in a day, legal betting would seem logical. It would earn the government revenue in the form of service tax and income tax. Those who run large-scale betting companies are unlikely to want to corrupt sport and bribe players. A Betfair or a Ladbrokes is a genuine corporate operation, not a cartel of the corrupt.

Yet what happens when a betting company becomes the setting - rather than the protagonist - of a sports corruption scandal? A prostitution racket may be run out of a hotel with the hotel's management being completely innocent of what its guests are doing. Legalising betting, especially online betting, cannot eliminate the potential for fixing.

In the end, it boils down to that one cricketer who is induced by a smarmy man in a shiny suit to throw his wicket away or bowl that one very expensive over, with two no-balls and a wide for good measure. At the root of that is temptation and greed. It is a basic instinct; and you can't use the law to defeat it.
 
Shameful act.

Should have been honest and kept enjoying the paid holidays season after season....But......
 
Bookie: So, what plan today?
#Sreesanth: I'll get smashed for over 10 runs per over.
B: Ok. So, you'll bowl badly?
S: No, no. Normally.
 
Really sad this but i'm interested in more names as alot of things looks suspect
 
Story has just broken in and already the indirect insinuations have started...I see how you are indirectly asking for it...yep yep:msd

Tongue in cheek. Ever heard of it?
 
Disgraceful from the players. Extremely happy that they have been caught and will be punished. Well done Delhi Police....they have done it in the past too.....seems they some good networks in these area.... Must appreciate that

I wanted to check what the national law says about spot fixing. How can they be arrested and under what charge. IPL tournament is a pvt one and the only viable action possible is BCCI suspends them for life. Does police have power in putting them into custody?
 
Why would Harbhajan keep Sreesanth out of the team when he himself has no place!

P.S. Not that I support Dirtbhajan... Infact, I like Sree, how much ever crap he is, he looked like he gave 100% to the team!


YouR ANSWER LIES HERE..............:yk

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Pakistani fans, I know this story has nothing to do with you - but notice how we aren't campaigning for Sreesanth's re-inclusion into the India fold, unlike Amir? :)

YEAH THERE IS A LOT Of CAMPAIGNING Going around in Support to SREE..:)) with the INdiAn FAns whom I KNow personally and they are quoting it with the Support of some Indian medias......:ajmal
 
3 Indians in a multi million dollar franchise get caught.

Lets see how many more and when the rest get caught
 
One more scandal should see the end of the farce of a tournament.
 
Meanwhile, RR teammate Stuart Binny tweeted about Rahul Dravid's mood following the scandal.
He wrote: "We all r vry
shocked- Rahul bhai was a lil shaken up bt he is fine now." He also wrote, "Gettin a lot of tweets to find out how's Rahul bhai doin.He is fine and has asked all the #rr supporters to stand by us .
Love u all #ipl"

I really wish these top paid athletes would spend a bit of their money on improving their literacy.

This tweet looks like it was written by a 4 year old...
 
Pakistani fans, I know this story has nothing to do with you - but notice how we aren't campaigning for Sreesanth's re-inclusion into the India fold, unlike Amir? :)

Are you kidding me? Sreesanth vs. Amir rofl?....

There is daylight between the two in terms of skills, and that's why other Pakistanis are still calling for his inclusion... you guys don't want S.S in the team anyway
 
I really wish these top paid athletes would spend a bit of their money on improving their literacy.

This tweet looks like it was written by a 4 year old...

If money could teach you everything in life!
 
So, question to all Indian IPL fans/defenders...We were told by most/all of you all along that the reason why a player would be susceptible to match fixing/spot fixing is if he is not educated enough and does not earn enough money...alongwith the fact that their board does not do enough to curb the corruption! And that mostly, Pak players are the guilty ones anyway.

So, what is the argument now considering last year's IPL scandal and now this one...why are these Indian cricketers such easy targets with all the money, education provided by the boards and the scrutiny IPL has been receiving? Is BCCI not doing enough to curb these issues or are the players only the guilty party? Or is it now time to curb down on the thousands of illegal bookies from India?

The difference is every time there was evidence of fixing, BCCI has banned the player.
 
Sreesanth, Chavan and Chandila being questioned in spot-fixing investigation

This is what greed does, hopefully this incident will lead to more corrupt players being identified and banned.
 
Re: Sreesanth, Chavan and Chandila being questioned in spot-fixing investigation

So, question to all Indian IPL fans/defenders...We were told by most/all of you all along that the reason why a player would be susceptible to match fixing/spot fixing is if he is not educated enough and does not earn enough money...alongwith the fact that their board does not do enough to curb the corruption! And that mostly, Pak players are the guilty ones anyway.

So, what is the argument now considering last year's IPL scandal and now this one...why are these Indian cricketers such easy targets with all the money, education provided by the boards and the scrutiny IPL has been receiving? Is BCCI not doing enough to curb these issues or are the players only the guilty party? Or is it now time to curb down on the thousands of illegal bookies from India?



Everytime there has been any incident the player has been banned.Unlike when PCB didnt take any action in 2000 because your whole team was involved.A statement made by your own board officials.Neither do we favour return of a fixer because he is supposedly reformed.
 
I really wish these top paid athletes would spend a bit of their money on improving their literacy.

This tweet looks like it was written by a 4 year old...

English isnt their first language.
 
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Disgraceful from the players. Extremely happy that they have been caught and will be punished. Well done Delhi Police....they have done it in the past too.....seems they some good networks in these area.... Must appreciate that

I wanted to check what the national law says about spot fixing. How can they be arrested and under what charge. IPL tournament is a pvt one and the only viable action possible is BCCI suspends them for life. Does police have power in putting them into custody?

When in 2000 match fixing scandal broke out, there was this debate on what sections players like Azhar, Jadeja could be tried. There were no specific sections in constititution for match fixing, and at best they could have been tried under sections for "cheating". Delhi Police at that time even deliberated the idea of imposing "treason charges" against Jaddu, Azhar and then Azhar played his minority card - "I am being framed bcoz m a muslim" and so nothing could be done. Even to this date, there are no specific sections for spot fixing/match fixing and hence section for cheating would be imposed, which means the players should get bail by tonite/tomorrow.
 
So, question to all Indian IPL fans/defenders...We were told by most/all of you all along that the reason why a player would be susceptible to match fixing/spot fixing is if he is not educated enough and does not earn enough money...alongwith the fact that their board does not do enough to curb the corruption! And that mostly, Pak players are the guilty ones anyway.

So, what is the argument now considering last year's IPL scandal and now this one...why are these Indian cricketers such easy targets with all the money, education provided by the boards and the scrutiny IPL has been receiving? Is BCCI not doing enough to curb these issues or are the players only the guilty party? Or is it now time to curb down on the thousands of illegal bookies from India?

really? Did Indian fans really say that a player would be susceptible to match fixing/spot fixing is if he is not educated enough and does not earn enough money? I thought this was the lame argument put across by Pakistani fans in defense of Aamir and Asif..

Greed and lack of ethics is the reason why an individual gets into fixing.
 
My prediction, Indian police will be busy next sesson as well. Good job on catching them.
 
Not trying to defend anyone here, but I fail to see how a bowler can decide to give away certain number of runs in an over without bowling wides or no balls, unless he has a pact with the batsmen and the fielders.
 
hehe..not jst that, he actually calls himself Indian..probably, suffers from some kind of inferiority complex and hence feels a bit embarassed disclosing his nationality.
Happy to live in blissful ignorance? I feel sad for you that your so insecure that you have to stoop to going into nationalities and trivial matters when you can't come up with a reasonable counter argument, all in the hope of hiding your own deficiencies. Quite sad indeed.
 
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Not trying to defend anyone here, but I fail to see how a bowler can decide to give away certain number of runs in an over without bowling wides or no balls, unless he has a pact with the batsmen and the fielders.

You can bowl bad balls so the are hit for four. No balls & wides you have already mentioned. Or you can try to bowl tight if the target is allready reached. None of it is 100% but still worthwhile at the long odds offered.
 
There are serious question marks over the credibility of IPL.
Sreesanth is annoying but always gives his 100% on the field, on top of that he earns close to a million dollars a year so i have a feeling that he didn't have much of a choice.
 
So basically the Mumbai police has done a big favor to the big fish who is spot fixing at IPL....this is a warning shot to stop all such activities as someone must be getting close to catching them

great at least now the remaining matches will be more competitive
 
If tournaments like these that pay millions of dollars to players does not deter them from participating from illegal activities then i dont know what will. Tournaments like IPL are one of the BIGGEST incentives given to players to actually not partake in incidents such as spot fixing. What does Sreesanth do?
This really boggles my mind.
 
How about this?

The Delhi police are blackmailing criminals to organise the fixing so they can catch them every now & then and look like heroes.

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There are serious question marks over the credibility of IPL.
Sreesanth is annoying but always gives his 100% on the field, on top of that he earns close to a million dollars a year so i have a feeling that he didn't have much of a choice.

Can we leave out the speculations, please? If you have proof please put it in open, you can see all the IPL matches in youtube, so feel free.

Sreesanth got caught along with his cousin, in fact it is being told that other players might have been roped in by Sreesanth.

If County cricket is credible then IPL is credible too. If assumption is all that necessary to question the credibility then one can question each and every match of Pakistan and other teams, whose players are involved in match/spot fixing in the past.
 
hats off to the Delhi Police for exposing this spot fixing scandal.even though he was the player who made us mallus proud by being in the wc winning teams in t20 and ODI,we will never forgive him.he should get a life ban and jail term for this crime. how can he be this much naive and greedy after all this success.I seriously doubt that there are some bigger fishes out there under the protection of certain godfathers.They will never be caught unlike this stupid sreesanth.

his family was always in news in some way or other.His father overreacted by involving dhoni and bhajji in it initially.after press conferance by DCP Neeraj kumar i think they all have come in terms with reality and is apologising to the public for his son's behaviour now.within a matter of few hours,he turned from a hero to zero or even low..
 
There are serious question marks over the credibility of IPL.
Sreesanth is annoying but always gives his 100% on the field, on top of that he earns close to a million dollars a year so i have a feeling that he didn't have much of a choice.

Yah like the credibility of Pakistan Cricket?


On topic: Just read the news now. Wow, never thought Sree would be involved.

But, a good chance to throw this idiot away from the team for ever. I say life ban if he was involved.
 
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Note how the D. Police stumbled upon this through sheer coincidence ... essentially they've only looked at one team in which at least 3 players have been proved dirty. In ONE team.
 
Pakistani fans, I know this story has nothing to do with you - but notice how we aren't campaigning for Sreesanth's re-inclusion into the India fold, unlike Amir? :)

If it was Kohli, even we would be saying that Kohl is trapped and bla bla bla..
 
India have a chance to do something Pak didn't do. Show an example and ban them for life. Show "no tolerance" to fixing.We had an opportunity to do that, but we let them off.
 
India have a chance to do something Pak didn't do. Show an example and ban them for life. Show "no tolerance" to fixing.We had an opportunity to do that, but we let them off.

What if a Dhoni or Kohli gets caught? Will India ban them too?

I know that the game is above individuals, but banning for life will be a tough decision for BCCI.
 
What if a Dhoni or Kohli gets caught? Will India ban them too?

I know that the game is above individuals, but banning for life will be a tough decision for BCCI.
They should. I'm not saying they would.

We didn't and I'm disappointed we didn't. We'll have that fixing tag with us for a while. If we showed the world we're harsh on fixers, the cricket community would have respected that. Instead we're trying to bring a fixer back into cricket once his ban is up.

I think India will take a stricter policy than us.
 
really? Did Indian fans really say that a player would be susceptible to match fixing/spot fixing is if he is not educated enough and does not earn enough money? I thought this was the lame argument put across by Pakistani fans in defense of Aamir and Asif..

Greed and lack of ethics is the reason why an individual gets into fixing.

Greed doesn't necessarily come into it. Look into how much Amir actually got, and how much he was earning or had the potential to earn. What he was found with was peanuts.

I'll guarantee that if you look at Sreesanth's legitimate earnings and those he is being accused (yes, only accused at this moment in time) of earning through nefarious activities, his legitimate wages will far exceed money made though fixing.

It's always easy to blame players, but sometimes there are far more sinister and irresistible forces at work. It's no coincidence players rarely name the big fish; it's a dangerous world out there.

Do I think this is the tip of the iceberg with the IPL? Yes, always have. This hasn't changed my view of this or other T20 tournaments, and I might add international cricket although that feels a lot cleaner after the fear generated by the Pakistani trio being caught.
 
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