Sreesanth says he's inspired by Mohammad Amir’s comeback after court lifts fixing ban (update #520)

[cricketjoshila]

Re: Sreesanth, Chavan and Chandila being questioned in spot-fixing investigation

No, you just elect them to parliament. #Azharrudin

Well that is beyond cricket.Life ban on cricket.But he was chosen by the congress party(no surprise) to contest from a muslim majority constiguency and he won.

But no cricket for him.

 

[adit_sh]

I agree....it has to be either lack of ethics or fear ( possibly from bookie or UW)

would not be surprised wif SS is killed/suicide if UW is involved. This is scary.

 

[Poison]

I'll guarantee that if you look at Sreesanth's legitimate earnings and those he is being accused (yes, only accused at this moment in time) of earning through nefarious activities, his legitimate wages will far exceed money made though fixing.

The amounts which have been spoken about are between $75k-$100k USD per over. Un-taxed. Nobody knows how many times it's been done before but its a serious pay-day for anyone, regardless of their IPL legit salary.

 

[SOSami]

The amounts which have been spoken about are between $75k-$100k USD per over. Un-taxed. Nobody knows how many times it's been done before but its a serious pay-day for anyone, regardless of their IPL legit salary.

$75k isn't much in the grand scheme of the IPL for a Sreesanth.

 

[Moh@n]

You can bowl bad balls so the are hit for four. No balls & wides you have already mentioned. Or you can try to bowl tight if the target is allready reached. None of it is 100% but still worthwhile at the long odds offered.

Fine, but how can a bowler be sure that he will give 14 or more runs in that over? What if he bowls a bad ball which the batsman is unable to put away, or worse for him, the batsman gets out? We have seen bowlers getting wickets countless number of times off bad balls. Then hitting boundries will be even more difficult for a new batsman, even off bad balls.

What if it does not go as per the plan? Bowling a wide or a no ball deliberately is different, but this is simply not entirely in control of the bowler alone.

 

[Poison]

$75k isn't much in the grand scheme of the IPL for a Sreesanth.

Say he bowls 5 of these fixed overs. $375k is more than his salary.

 

[SOSami]

Fine, but how can a bowler be sure that he will give 14 or more runs in that over? What if he bowls a bad ball which the batsman is unable to put away, or worse for him, the batsman gets out? We have seen bowlers getting wickets countless number of times off bad balls. Then hitting boundries will be even more difficult for a new batsman, even off bad balls.

What if it does not go as per the plan? Bowling a wide or a no ball deliberately is different, but this is simply not entirely in control of the bowler alone.

If you're bowling against top batsmen you are pretty certain which deliveries will go to the boundary.

 

[ads101]

Fine, but how can a bowler be sure that he will give 14 or more runs in that over? What if he bowls a bad ball which the batsman is unable to put away, or worse for him, the batsman gets out? We have seen bowlers getting wickets countless number of times off bad balls. Then hitting boundries will be even more difficult for a new batsman, even off bad balls.

What if it does not go as per the plan? Bowling a wide or a no ball deliberately is different, but this is simply not entirely in control of the bowler alone.

Well as wrongun you can't but you can make it more likely. 14 runs isn't actually that much in T20, a terrible over can often go for that.

Course you can always make sure by fixing both ends batsman and bowler (which evidently didn't happen as he went for 13 )

An interesting theory but maybe a fixer is outed because he did it wrong rather than right and someone got annoyed. Cos if he did it right, there's no complaints and everything goes smoothly.

 

[cricketworm]

LOL this is sad and funny at the same time. Sree really Sree?

Spotfixing is like that bad bug that sucks blood slowly while you are sleeping! And spotfixing can be so criminal during T20 game, as even one delivery can make a huge difference!

 

[ads101]

LOL this is sad and funny at the same time. Sree really Sree?

Spotfixing is like that bad bug that sucks blood slowly while you are sleeping! And spotfixing can be so criminal during T20 game, as even one delivery can make a huge difference!

In some ways you're lucky, this is Sree. You can give him a life ban, come out looking strong and anti-corruption. No real damage done Sree ain't in the team nor good enough to be in it anyway.

If it were a senior or/and much loved player, it would turn into a massive deal.

A lot of countries have had players caught with fixers. Being caught with fixers doesn't make that country dodgy (or overun with fixing). Crimes happen. It's how you deal with the crime. If you come out harsh and deal with it, people will respect you for that. It'll save the respectability of the board as well as the IPL.

Hopefully India will do the right thing here.

 

[cricketworm]

How stupid one must be to get sucked into this while you are ALREADY making these much money!

Greed can't be the only thing, one has to be immensely stupid.

 

[Aman]

What if a Dhoni or Kohli gets caught? Will India ban them too?

I know that the game is above individuals, but banning for life will be a tough decision for BCCI.

They won't ever do it because they already get paid ridiculousness amounts that even spot fixing money would never tempt them.

 

[soso_killer]

Greed doesn't necessarily come into it. Look into how much Amir actually got, and how much he was earning or had the potential to earn. What he was found with was peanuts.

I'll guarantee that if you look at Sreesanth's legitimate earnings and those he is being accused (yes, only accused at this moment in time) of earning through nefarious activities, his legitimate wages will far exceed money made though fixing.

It's always easy to blame players, but sometimes there are far more sinister and irresistible forces at work. It's no coincidence players rarely name the big fish; it's a dangerous world out there.

Do I think this is the tip of the iceberg with the IPL? Yes, always have. This hasn't changed my view of this or other T20 tournaments, and I might add international cricket although that feels a lot cleaner after the fear generated by the Pakistani trio being caught.

i'm sorry but you sounded like an apologist there. Players have to take full responsibility for their actions death threats or not

 

[par]

What if a Dhoni or Kohli gets caught? Will India ban them too?

I know that the game is above individuals, but banning for life will be a tough decision for BCCI.

Azar and Jadeja were banned.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

I felt asleep, woke up and trott is gone

Edit: wrong thread

 

[Buffet]

They should. I'm not saying they would.

We didn't and I'm disappointed we didn't. We'll have that fixing tag with us for a while. If we showed the world we're harsh on fixers, the cricket community would have respected that. Instead we're trying to bring a fixer back into cricket once his ban is up.

I think India will take a stricter policy than us.

100% agree. Not matter who is caught, be it Dhoni , Kohli or some third league player, just get rid of them. Ensure that they can't even play domestic game. If boards don't do that then you start sending wrong message.

 

[ace58]

Sreesanth has always been a weirdo and probably has a very low IQ as well. This is not very surprising. Also it was always obvious that dhoni yuvi and bhajji didn't like him so its not a surprise he's trying to throw some of them under the bus now.

 

[cricketworm]

In some ways you're lucky, this is Sree. You can give him a life ban, come out looking strong and anti-corruption. No real damage done Sree ain't in the team nor good enough to be in it anyway.

If it were a senior or/and much loved player, it would turn into a massive deal.

A lot of countries have had players caught with fixers. Being caught with fixers doesn't make that country dodgy (or overun with fixing). Crimes happen. It's how you deal with the crime. If you come out harsh and deal with it, people will respect you for that. It'll save the respectability of the board as well as the IPL.

Hopefully India will do the right thing here.

True.

I am sure BCCI will do the same and just boot out whoever is caught. Actually they did against the most respected cricketer, Azzu bhai at that time. They fired him for life as soon as he came under scanner.

I think time will come when players will not be able to have any kind of privacy. They will be underscanner 24/7. If broadcasters start pressuring boards or sponsors start to pull out, board will be in pressure to keep an eagle eye on players. And in future, I think this is going to happen.

 

[SOSami]

Say he bowls 5 of these fixed overs. $375k is more than his salary.

Fair point.

 

[SL_Fan]

Reportedly all the accuseds - players and bookies - have been produced in Saket court in Delhi, and will remain in custody for five days

"We as a team take a zero-tolerance view of the situation. The RR owners and management have made their zero-tolerance policy clear at every possible moment. I am sure they will support every action taken. For me as a captain and leader, I have to focus on ensuring the team fulfil their enormous potential and continue to play in the Rajasthan Royals way. Our players are devastated that our performances may have been affected. As they had the desire to win, and this has been evident throughout the tournament. The players, and people around the team, are hurting. I hope our fans get behind us, and we become stronger as a unit, which often happens in time of adversity. This has been a tough day for me, the team and for cricket." - Rahul Dravid

Interesting few days ahead

 

[cricketworm]

I think good guys within the team play a big role here to keep not-so-famous or dodgy characters at bay. It is pretty tough to sniff something like that but constant lecture by senior pros. can make a huge difference.

I would still like to believe that spot fixing happen at very minute scale compare to amount of cricket being played.

 

[cricketworm]

Oh dear! This is sadistically funny!

 

[dinakar]

Even if the court exonerate Sreesanth, I don't see him playing ever again for India or in IPL. BCCI would make sure that just like the case of Nayan Mongia or Prabhakar. I guess his parents outburst further sealed his fate.

 

[PlanetPakistan]

Yah like the credibility of Pakistan Cricket?


On topic: Just read the news now. Wow, never thought Sree would be involved.

But, a good chance to throw this idiot away from the team for ever. I say life ban if he was involved.

In 2010 obviously there were question marks over the credibility of Pakistan cricket but since then team has been quite clean under Misbah.

IPL on the other hand has had some serious question marks ever since the days of Modi.

 

[PlanetPakistan]

I like the overall concept of IPL especially the fact that the fringe players get to make good money but obviously the corruption issue and the absence of Pakistani players is very annoying

 

[pakistanalltheway]

Sreesanth, Chavan and Chandila being questioned in spot-fixing investigation

Fixing in IPL ?
I don't believe it
it's just an ISI conspiracy

 

[oyei]

Question to all indians supporters of IPL, why do you get offended when someone point out the obvious and drag Pakistan or any other country into it,fact is fact, this is not the first time it has happened in IPL and surely not the last time. Under world betting mafia is huge in india, too much money for them to be made, even if the betting is made legal, cricketers can still be influence by strong and usually above the law mafia in india.

 

[syedtumair]

Amir sohail on ipl fixing scandal

"ICC should start supportin struggling cricketers rather than giving millions of dollars to associated nations like Kuwait where cricket has very less chance of growth

 

[amit]

Here's my prediction on one more name that might come out - Ajinkya Rahane.

If this actually happens, then i will share the information, which was given to me before Raj-KKR match in Kolkatta. I won decent money based upon that information and now i am actually quite curious to know if it was a mere coincidence or was there more than what met the eyes.

Another name would be OA Shah

i am guessing it would be rp singh. he bowled that massive no-ball in the match against csk

 

[Buffet]

Amir sohail on ipl fixing scandal

"ICC should start supportin struggling cricketers rather than giving millions of dollars to associated nations like Kuwait where cricket has very less chance of growth

Sreesanth was financially struggling? Any guy, who has played in national team for a reasonable period, can't struggle with money in modern era.

 

[amit]

and i always said the ipl is fixed. now good to see some proofs coming out

 

[ace58]

Amir sohail on ipl fixing scandal

"ICC should start supportin struggling cricketers rather than giving millions of dollars to associated nations like Kuwait where cricket has very less chance of growth

I don't think any of the 3 cricketers were struggling. They are playing in a league with the 2nd highest salaries in the world. People with money commit crimes too which for some reason is difficult for people to understand.

 

[shah_1]

spot fixing

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

If proved, ban them for life...

 

[RexRex]

Damn , his buffoonish antics notwithstanding , who knew deep down Sreeshanth was just plain evil ? What a catch.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I dont know,but gut feeling says Sreesanth got dragged because his close friend was a bookie.

 

[Shayan]

I dont know,but gut feeling says Sreesanth got dragged because his close friend was a bookie.

May be true, but as we've already seen, stuff like that is irrelevant.

 

[cricketjoshila]

May be true, but as we've already seen, stuff like that is irrelevant.

Ofcourse it is irrelevant in terms of the punishment he gets.I am only saying this,as this may have made the approach of bookies easier.

 

[Amir]

We know this was coming. IPL 100 matches a day, one was bound to be fixed cause a lot of those matches probably don't matter in the scheme of things.

Anyone who had a brain new IPL wouldn't be clean from the onset. Only loyalists didn't want to believe it.

 

[sticky_wkt]

Ban them for life once proven guilty in court.

Sreesanth has never learned from his so many mistakes in the past, now its all over for him.

These guys are already so rich than they actually deserve, but still greedy to make more money. Pathetic issed:

 

[sam_ahm]

Well that is beyond cricket.Life ban on cricket.But he was chosen by the congress party(no surprise) to contest from a muslim majority constiguency and he won.

But no cricket for him.

Azhar bhai has been cleared by the High Court of AP and the BCCI has not challenged that decision at least until now, so as of now Azhar bhai is clean, get that clear.

There was no clear evidence against Azhar anyway like the one against the Pakistani trio or these three, he was not even given a fair trial I thought. He was just banned without any hearing, evidence, anything for that matter, based on some report by some individual.

 

[James]

I imagine Sreesanth got led on; he is proper thick. There is always a ringleader, and it almost certainly wouldn't be him.

 

[t_kaay]

So is it a prisonable offence in India? Will these three be tasting life inside like Butt & co?

 

[cricketjoshila]

So is it a prisonable offence in India? Will these three be tasting life inside like Butt & co?

Booked under IPC 420 thats for cheating

and MCOCA one of Indias most stringent laws so stringent that its almost draconian.

I imagine Sreesanth got led on; he is proper thick. There is always a ringleader, and it almost certainly wouldn't be him.

I think he was trapped by his friend Jiju who was a club cricketer turned bookie.And once Chandila came into this,Police said he was the one who motivated Chavan for this.

 

[Bowled 'im]

I feel sorry for Dravid. One of the most respectable players of all time now has to deal with the fact that he had cheats in his ranks. This will unfortunately be a stain on his career too. He must be shattered.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I feel sorry for Dravid. One of the most respectable players of all time now has to deal with the fact that he had cheats in his ranks. This will unfortunately be a stain on his career too. He must be shattered.

Well while i agree that he would shattered.I dont think this will stain his reputation.

 

[Bowled 'im]

We know this was coming. IPL 100 matches a day, one was bound to be fixed cause a lot of those matches probably don't matter in the scheme of things.

Anyone who had a brain new IPL wouldn't be clean from the onset. Only loyalists didn't want to believe it.

I have watched quite a few games this season; and there have been a few times when I was scratching my head - wondering what was going on.

We like to think that the players are paid well enough, and security measures, strict punishment is enough to keep the game clean - to a certain extent.

The accusations against sreesanth are much worse than what Amir and asif were caught for. To purposely bowl pie after pie to try and concede as many runs as you can obviously changes the course of a match. Dravid must be livid.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

i can see them being released without charge in the next few days

huge publicity stunt

 

[Bowled 'im]

Well while i agree that he would shattered.I dont think this will stain his reputation.

He is the captain of a team with 3 accused cheats. Questions will be asked as to why he never clicked on. I have huge respect for Dravid. But this is an ugly way to end your career. Poor guy.

 

[Mamoon]

Sreesanth, Chavan and Chandila being questioned in spot-fixing investigation

Once your serve your ban, you are no longer a criminal. I don't see any reason why Amir shouldn't return to the team (if he's still good enough) once he completes his punishment.

 

[Bowled 'im]

i can see them being released without charge in the next few days

huge publicity stunt

Have you been keeping up?

There are recorded telephone conversations between players and bookies 'predicting' the amount of runs that will be conceived in certain overs - and the 'signals' used to indicate 'it's on'.

These guys are screwed.

I am just curious to know if they will do prison time. If the allegations are true, then these guys need to be made an example of.

What I do expect to see over the next few days s sreesanth crying like a baby again

 

[jeetu]

I am shocked to see a guy like Sreesanth is involved as he had good contract. I hope police uncovers all cheats and when found guilty they should all be banned for life.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Have you been keeping up?

There are recorded telephone conversations between players and bookies 'predicting' the amount of runs that will be conceived in certain overs - and the 'signals' used to indicate 'it's on'.

These guys are screwed.

I am just curious to know if they will do prison time. If the allegations are true, then these guys need to be made an example of.

What I do expect to see over the next few days s sreesanth crying like a baby again

Booked under IPC 420 thats for cheating

and MCOCA one of Indias most stringent laws so stringent that its almost draconian.

If they get convicted under MCOCA they are gone for a long time.

 

[Aman]

I dont know,but gut feeling says Sreesanth got dragged because his close friend was a bookie.

You're really asking for it if you associate yourself with bookies.

 

[Aman]

I feel sorry for Dravid. One of the most respectable players of all time now has to deal with the fact that he had cheats in his ranks. This will unfortunately be a stain on his career too. He must be shattered.

Dravids career ended long ago playing with a few cheats post retirement cannot diminish what already has ended.

 

[Random Aussie]

I feel sorry for Dravid. One of the most respectable players of all time now has to deal with the fact that he had cheats in his ranks. This will unfortunately be a stain on his career too. He must be shattered.

It wont be a stain on Rahul Dravid's career in any way, shape or form #gorillamonsoon

 

[wrongun]

$75k isn't much in the grand scheme of the IPL for a Sreesanth.

Yes but when did you ever see a millionaire stop business and say- I'm fine, I have enough money now. People always want more, especially a sportsman who must hoard up all he can while playing if he wants to maintain a rich lifestyle because his career ends in his mid 30s, or even tomorrow if bad luck & i jury intervene.

 

[BlackThunder]

RP Singh needs to be investigated and this should open BCCI and Indian police eyes, this sort of stuff surely doesn't begin and end with one team there is way more to it than just this.

 

[Bowled 'im]

^^ "stain on Dravid's career" were perhaps not the right words. "A sour note at the end of his career" are probably better words. I really do feel for the guy, and have huge respect for him - but the reality is, he will be asked all kinds of questions by all kinds of people over this. Very unfair for the great man to have to get dragged into something like this - I'm sure he expected to just have a bit of fun with the RRs.

Here's what the Australian media is reporting about Sree:

In the second fix, on May 9, Sreesanth agreed he would concede 13 runs in his second over against Kings XI Punjab. Adam Gilchrist and Shaun Marsh were the batsman.
Having conceded only five runs in his first over, Sreesanth gave the pre-determined signal to the bookmakers.
"In this match it was decided that Sreesanth would put a towel in his trousers before the start of his second over, [giving] the bookies enough time for heavy betting.
"He asked for a towel before the second over. He went into warm-ups and stretching after that. And conceded 13."
Sreesanth was hit for three fours and a single in the over, including a boundary off the final ball when he appeared to pull his hand away from a well-struck Gilchrist shot back down the pitch.
In the final fixed match, played on Wednesday, Ajit Chandila acted as the go-between between bookies and Ankeet Chavan. Chandila carried six million Rupees — $110,000 AUD — for the off-spinner if he could concede at least 13 runs in his second over.
Having gone for only two in the first over of his spell, Chavan's second was dramatically more expensive. In the first three balls, Australian all-rounder Glenn Maxwell hit him for six, two and six.
Having conceded 14 from the first three balls, the rest of the over was tighter, conceding only one.

http://m.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/a...-up-in-spotfixing-scandal-20130517-2jprj.html

And there was me thinking gilchrist still had it in him!!

 

[Ambi]

Spot-fixing in IPL: Dawood's man in Dubai mastermind of betting racket
MUMBAI/NEW DELHI: The mastermind of the cricket betting syndicate is said to be a Dubai-based Dawood Ibrahim man named Sunil Ramchandani alias Sunil Dubai while the principal bookie referred to as 'Jupiter' in phone intercepts is aperson called Chandresh . He is reportedly close to several politicians, builders and police officers.
"The hawala route in the payout of money indicates links to Dawood gang," said a Delhi Police officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "The increase in the seizure of 'dabba phones' - phones on which betting rates are taken from Dubai - in recent days from betting syndicates seem to confirm that Dawood's men control much of this cash-spinning industry running into thousands of crores."
While Delhi Police commissioner Neeraj Kumar didn't elaborate on theDubai-Karachi connection, terming the link as that of the 'Mumbai underworld' whose kingpin lives abroad, sources in the special cell said that a team was probing Dawood's connection with the bookies and joining the dots using tip-offs gathered.
"We're trying to figure out whether the Dubai number used by the bookie kingpin actually originated inDubai or somewhere else. The wires of this operation extend to Karachi, Dubai, Jaipur, Kolkata and Ahmedabad," said a Delhi cop, adding that the teams are in most of these places for further investigations.
Intelligence sources said Sunil Dubai started his operations in Mumbai about 20 years ago before shifting base to Dubai. "He used to shuttle between Dubai and Mumbai to coordinate operations till a few yearsago," said a senior Mumbai police officer. Mumbai police issued a look-out notice after his name cropped up in betting cases involvinga number of bookies. From Dubai, Sunil applied for anticipatory bail in aMumbai court, but his plea was rejected last month.
Sunil took over the betting business after Sharad Shetty, also a Dawood man, was assassinated by rival gangster Chhota Rajan's men in Dubai 10 years ago. Sunil's family is believed to be in London . He frequently travels to Karachi, where Dawood and his right hand man Chhota Shakeel are based. Sources in the police said he heads a business worth over Rs 500 crore spread across Mumbai, Delhi, Dubai and Karachi.
It is learnt that a few years ago, he bought most of an apartment building near Mantralaya, the Maharashtra government headquarters.
"The five-storey building was initially occupied by Indian Navy officials. He bought most of the flats except one owned by the state government. He is trying to capture that too. He intends to redevelop it once he manages to buy the last flat," said a person with knowledge of the deal.
Several Mumbai bookies owe their allegiance to him. "He decides the betting rate and the others follow it. Cricket fixing cannot happen without his go-ahead," said sources.
As for Jupiter/Chandresh, sources said he shifted his base to Delhi sometime ago after Mumbai police began cracking down on bookies. He had operated from Mumbai along with Ahmedabad-based Naresh Majethia for close to 15 years ago. The police are said to be gathering more information on Chandresh's operations here.
It all began with the interception of calls between Dubai and Karachi that had alarmed the special cell who mistook them first as "coded exchange between terrorists". But, further interceptions led to the unraveling of connections between IPL players and bookies.
The cops will now question Ramesh Vyas, a bookie arrested by the Mumbai police on Tuesday, who was the link between Indian and Pakistani 'bookies' and had exchanged around 30 calls to Pakistan , an officer said.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...nd-of-betting-racket/articleshow/20095307.cms
Its actually quite shameful that indian goverment is still allowing these gangsters to operate freely in india

 

[hmushtaq]

I do not understand fixing/spot fixing stuff sometimes..

How can bowler fix to concede certain runs. He does not have any control of shots played by batsman nor what fielders will do. Yes he can bowl a no-ball, and wide etc, but to guarantee exact score of over? What if instead of conceding 13 runs (3 4s and one single), he conceded 16 runs? It does not make sense.... unless there is some range and some ifs and buts

Or batsman and whole team is involved from both sides, which is not possible.

 

[wrongun]

I do not understand fixing/spot fixing stuff sometimes..

How can bowler fix to concede certain runs. He does not have any control of shots played by batsman nor what fielders will do. Yes he can bowl a no-ball, and wide etc, but to guarantee exact score of over? What if instead of conceding 13 runs (3 4s and one single), he conceded 16 runs? It does not make sense.... unless there is some range and some ifs and buts

Or batsman and whole team is involved from both sides, which is not possible.

They do not have to fix an exact score. You can bet on 10+ runs per over, or an exact score. Just betting on 10> runs the over is easy, no explanation needed as any score of 10 or higher has them win. Exact scores are more difficult. See below.

The bookies give themselves a cushion of a run or two either way. You can bet on more than one outcome and still make heaps of money. Let's say the odds on scoring exactly 10 runs are 10/1. Someone knows the bowler will try to fix it so he places seperate $10,000 bets on scores of 9, 10, 11 & 12 for the over. An outlay of $40,000. If one of those is right, he collects $100,000 still a $60,000 profit.

As for the batsmen- no you cannot control them but you can assume the batsman is trying to score as many as possible and that at this level he is good enough to hit a bad ball for four- especially if you feed it to his strong areas like if you know he has a good cut or you bowl full if you know your captain has set the field for short bowling. In that way you can take fielders out of the equation or influence what a batsman will do.

 

[praveen]

The level of reporting has stopped to very low standards. News agencies have been generously using the terms allegedly, sources,unconfirmed reports to spread rumor of their taste.

Tait being Involved proved false. The Delhi police commissioner yesterday told NDTV that whatsapp was NOT used for communication, and the police did not have the capacity to tap BBM messages as well. Now i read news saying bookies supplied call girls to Chandila and Sreesanth and a girl was found in Sreesanth's room during his arrest.

Although they would claim innocence, i would also like to hear the player's version before framing my conclusion.

The below interview throws a lot of light about this investigation, Azhar's case , underworld contribution etc..
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/ne...elhi-police-chief-neeraj-kumar-to-ndtv/275439

 

[Aman]

The level of reporting has stopped to very low standards. News agencies have been generously using the terms allegedly, sources,unconfirmed reports to spread rumor of their taste.

Tait being Involved proved false. The Delhi police commissioner yesterday told NDTV that whatsapp was NOT used for communication, and the police did not have the capacity to tap BBM messages as well. Now i read news saying bookies supplied call girls to Chandila and Sreesanth and a girl was found in Sreesanth's room during his arrest.

Although they would claim innocence, i would also like to hear the player's version before framing my conclusion.

The below interview throws a lot of light about this investigation, Azhar's case , underworld contribution etc..
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/ne...elhi-police-chief-neeraj-kumar-to-ndtv/275439

Tait was cleared. No Australians involved.

 

[KIC]

What if a Dhoni or Kohli gets caught? Will India ban them too?

I know that the game is above individuals, but banning for life will be a tough decision for BCCI.

yes they would. they banned Azhar and he was no small fish. neither were prabhakar or jadeja or mongia, for that matter.

 

[iafzal]

RP Singh's no ball now looks so suspicious

Not even funny

 

[Kianig89]

RP Singh's no ball now looks so suspicious

Not even funny

As BCCI has thrown it to ICC so why noy ACSU investigate it just like they tried to investigate Eng vs Pak 3rd Odi @ oval middle overs....why not here where things are more dubious......

 

[pungi]

RP Singh's no ball now looks so suspicious

Not even funny

very hard to disagree on that. It becomes more suspicious when you consider the fact that he did it twice in the same match overs.

13.6 Singh to Dhoni, (no ball) 1 run, on the pads, nudges it through square leg for a single, freehit coming after RP oversteps, overstepped by a long way there.

19.6 Singh to Jadeja, (no ball) 1 run, gone! RCB have snatched victory! Oh no, they haven't! RP has bowled a no-ball! RP overstepped by a big margin there.

 

[Mamoon]

totally lame statement. Azhar scored a century against SA in the last match he played before getting banned. Jadeja slammed 5 sixes and a score of 90+ against pakistan in the last match he played before getting banned. Both were integral part of Indian cricket then.

Azhar was 37. He had hardly any cricket left. Maxium year or two.

So what if he slammed 5 sixes? he was still a mediocre player and the peak of India's mediocrity and was gonna get ousted anyway soon.

And you could ban only those who have been caught. As much as you may wish, but Kohli/Dhoni can't be banned unless they do some nefarious activity. You don't dump your girlfriend bcoz your friend's gf cheated on him. Or may be i m assuming things, do you?

Looks like you need to work on your comprehension skills.

I said and I repeat. India's true test of morality will come if their star players get caught in the act! Salman was our best opener and Asif and Amir were amongst the best bowlers in the world. Its a very big pill to swallow.

We'd see how the public reacts if players like Kohli and Dhoni get caught.

 

[Mamoon]

Like the choice between Abdur Rehman and Wasim Akram you mean?

Wasim was never caught red handed. There were all allegations and you can't ban a player just because you suspect his involvement and neither can you take the word of team mates because a lot of jealousy is involved.

Salim Malik was caught; banned for life. Didn't play again.

Ata Ur Rehman and Abdur Rehman.

His career was also over after match fixing scandal. Played his last match at the age of 21.

#Failpost

 

[KPfan]

Wasim was never caught red handed. There were all allegations and you can't ban a player just because you suspect his involvement and neither can you take the word of team mates because a lot of jealousy is involved.

Salim Malik was caught; banned for life. Didn't play again.

Ata Ur Rehman and Abdur Rehman.

His career was also over after match fixing scandal. Played his last match at the age of 21.

#Failpost

Wasim (and many others) was let off because the judge had a soft corner for him. It is well documented. Get your head out of the sand.

 

[Mamoon]

Wasim (and many others) was let off because the judge had a soft corner for him. It is well documented. Get your head out of the sand.

Stop clutching at straws.

If the evidence would have been conclusive enough, he would have been banned.

Don't be bitter about it.

 

[KPfan]

Stop clutching at straws.

If the evidence would have been conclusive enough, he would have been banned.

Don't be bitter about it.

It is not difficult to hide evidence in a country like Pakistan. I'm sure the trio would have been let off too had the case been judged by the Pakistani courts.

The support for them is widespread in Pakistan even today. #countdowntoamir'scomeback #naivepoorboy

 

[pungi]

Azhar was 37. He had hardly any cricket left. Maxium year or two.

So what if he slammed 5 sixes? he was still a mediocre player and the peak of India's mediocrity and was gonna get ousted anyway soon.


Looks like you need to work on your comprehension skills.

I said and I repeat. India's true test of morality will come if their star players get caught in the act! Salman was our best opener and Asif and Amir were amongst the best bowlers in the world. Its a very big pill to swallow.

We'd see how the public reacts if players like Kohli and Dhoni get caught.

It almost sounds that you want to take the moral high ground for banning Salman, Asif, Amir. Just to set the record straight, ICC banned them and they were convicted in England. I dare say, if left to PCB, they would have done nothing about them.

Regarding Jadeja, he mite be a mediocre player to you, but please tell me how many Pakistani players ever since Pak has started playing cricket, average more than Jadeja in ODIs? I am not getting into a debate of Jadeja vs Pakistani batsman, but the point i am highlighting is that jadeja and Azhar were integral part of Indian team in those days, they both were performing well and none of them was even remotely close to getting ousted for performance. Now 15 years down the line, if you want to imagine reasons (Azhar would have played for only 2 more years, Indian selectors having oracle power to assume 2 years later Yuvraj wud come on a white horse), then be my guest. Fact is and i repeat, BCCI had the balls to ban players when evidences surfaced against them. They have passed that test and nothing can change that fact.

And btw there was no direct evidence against any of those players, everything was based upon statements of players, bookies, and a lot of rationalism. That's why none of those bans could stand in court. Jadeja once got a call 108 times from a bookie's number and Jadeja's defense was that he thought the guy was a pandit. Now, if the intention was to let Jadeja go scot free, even justice chandrachur would have said "no material evidence against jadeja, so just put a small fine"

 

[Mamoon]

It is not difficult to hide evidence in a country like Pakistan. I'm sure the trio would have been let off too had the case been judged by the Pakistani courts.

The support for them is widespread in Pakistan even today. #countdowntoamir'scomeback #naivepoorboy

The ICC should have intervened in that case. Not Wasim's fault they were lazy.

Yes Aamir will be back once he serves his ban.

#stopwhiningmate

 

[KIC]

Azhar was 37. He had hardly any cricket left. Maxium year or two.

So what if he slammed 5 sixes? he was still a mediocre player and the peak of India's mediocrity and was gonna get ousted anyway soon.

It doesn't matter. Azhar was an Indian icon. He was still one of the fittest around and would have played for another 2-3 years.

Ajay Jadeja was a certainty in the ODI team. Yuvraj Singh was nowhere in the picture as far as the middle order was concerned. He had to be brought in because the match fixing bans left a hole to be filled. One can't look back with the benefit of hindsight and conclude that the BCCI knew Yuvraj was coming anyway ...so, took Jadeja out of the picture.

Nayan Mongia was one of the best wicket keepers we had and a certainty in the team as well. After that, we struggled to get a decent keeper batsman for a long time. That did not stop the BCCI from keeping him out of the team.

Moreover, these players were kept out of the team even without being found guilty by any court of law. I think that is the right approach. There are many ways (including technicalities) in which a player can slip out of the legal process. That may keep them out of prison. However, it is important for the board to make sure that as long as they are reasonably convinced about guilt, they act and keep them out of the game. The BCCI has, time and again, done that ...irrespective of who the player was and, I think, they will keep doing that. At the end of the day, keeping fans interested in the sport is more important for them than any single player.

 

[Mamoon]

It almost sounds that you want to take the moral high ground for banning Salman, Asif, Amir. Just to set the record straight, ICC banned them and they were convicted in England. I dare say, if left to PCB, they would have done nothing about them.

Regarding Jadeja, he mite be a mediocre player to you, but please tell me how many Pakistani players ever since Pak has started playing cricket, average more than Jadeja in ODIs? I am not getting into a debate of Jadeja vs Pakistani batsman, but the point i am highlighting is that jadeja and Azhar were integral part of Indian team in those days, they both were performing well and none of them was even remotely close to getting ousted for performance. Now 15 years down the line, if you want to imagine reasons (Azhar would have played for only 2 more years, Indian selectors having oracle power to assume 2 years later Yuvraj wud come on a white horse), then be my guest. Fact is and i repeat, BCCI had the balls to ban players when evidences surfaced against them. They have passed that test and nothing can change that fact.

And btw there was no direct evidence against any of those players, everything was based upon statements of players, bookies, and a lot of rationalism. That's why none of those bans could stand in court. Jadeja once got a call 108 times from a bookie's number and Jadeja's defense was that he thought the guy was a pandit. Now, if the intention was to let Jadeja go scot free, even justice chandrachur would have said "no material evidence against jadeja, so just put a small fine"

Again, I never said we showed a high moral ground. Fact is we did NOT. But it understandable because they were three key players.

Secondly, that isn't a guess. How many 40 year old players have played test cricket since the 90's? It is no secret that his career was pretty much over.

Zaheer Abbas, Inzamam, Miandad, Jamshed, Saeed Anwar, Mohammad Yousaf, Misbah etc all average higher and a strike rate in the 60s in the position he played is a joke.

 

[Mamoon]

It doesn't matter. Azhar was an Indian icon. He was still one of the fittest around and would have played for another 2-3 years.

Ajay Jadeja was a certainty in the ODI team. Yuvraj Singh was nowhere in the picture as far as the middle order was concerned. He had to be brought in because the match fixing bans left a hole to be filled. One can't look back with the benefit of hindsight and conclude that the BCCI knew Yuvraj was coming anyway ...so, took Jadeja out of the picture.

Nayan Mongia was one of the best wicket keepers we had and a certainty in the team as well. After that, we struggled to get a decent keeper batsman for a long time. That did not stop the BCCI from keeping him out of the team.

Moreover, these players were kept out of the team even without being found guilty by any court of law. I think that is the right approach. There are many ways (including technicalities) in which a player can slip out of the legal process. That may keep them out of prison. However, it is important for the board to make sure that as long as they are reasonably convinced about guilt, they act and keep them out of the game. The BCCI has, time and again, done that ...irrespective of who the player was and, I think, they will keep doing that. At the end of the day, keeping fans interested in the sport is more important for them than any single player.

Yuvraj made his debut only a few months later.

Secondly, the batting talent India has always possessed, replacing an average player like Jadeja is not difficult for India and never was.

His head was turned by a fim career anyway .

Point is and I repeat, India's true test of morality will come when there three key components are banned and that two when they are just entering the primes of their careers.

 

[BaaliSoda]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>After Delhi, its d turn of Tamilnadu police to turn the heat on <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23IPL">#IPL</a>. Search in over eight places in city in connection with fixing on.</p>— bharathnt (@bharath1) <a href="https://twitter.com/bharath1/status/335267773552926722">May 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Tamil Nadu Police conducting searches in several places in Chennai in connection with alleged IPL fixing and betting. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23news">#news</a></p>— bharathnt (@bharath1) <a href="https://twitter.com/bharath1/status/335267032662679552">May 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Just in: Bookies threw party in April where 6 Rajasthan Royals players were invited, reports @<a href="https://twitter.com/ankit_tyagi01">ankit_tyagi01</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23SpotFixing">#SpotFixing</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Sreesanth">#Sreesanth</a></p>— Shiv Aroor (@ShivAroor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/335262761615511552">May 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Hope some big fish gets caught this time around.

 

[BaaliSoda]

Midnight chase through the streets of Bandra led to Sreesanth's arrest

After weeks of methodically sniffing the clues and following the signs, police ensured that the after-party following the Rajasthan Royals versus Mumbai Indians match on Wednesday ended in jail for three cricketers, tainted with spot-fixing allegations.

In what is being called a credibility crisis for Indian cricket, pacer S Sreesanth and two of his Rajasthan Royals teammates Ankeet Chavan and Ajit Chandila were arrested by Delhi Police in the wee hours on Thursday from different places in Mumbai on charges of spot-fixing in at least three Indian Premier League games. The police also arrested 11 bookies.

Midnight haunt

A little before midnight on Wednesday, right after losing the RR-MI game at Wankhede, Sreesanth and Chavan made their way to the swanky pub
Or-G in Bandra (W), said an insider from the pub.


Sreesanth left Or-G in Bandra at 1.30 am

Oblivious that they had been on the police radar for the past several weeks right up to that moment, the duo went in to meet a bookie Mithania, even as a cop squad was waiting in the wings outside the bar.

A special team of the Delhi Police, helped by the Mumbai Crime Branch, had been hot on the cricketer’s trail for the past few weeks. On the day, the sleuths kept tabs on each and every movement of Sreesanth and his two teammates. Even at the time Sreesanth left the stadium, cops were ceaselessly tracking him. The thorough surveillance culminated that night in a brilliantly laid trap outside the pub.


Cops intercepted his car at this spot on Waterfield Road. Three women who were with him in the car are being questioned

A source from Mumbai police, who was part of the special team that arrested the accused, said, “After spending half an hour at the pub, Ankeet Chavan left the pub, and one of the police teams began tailing him. When he reached the Intercontinental Hotel, cops arrested him. In the meantime, Sreesanth was still with Mithania inside the pub.”

The Or-G ends

Around 1.30 am, Sreesanth left the pub, got in a car and began driving to Waterfield Road in Bandra, the source said. Mithania, too, got in another car and drove off. The police team broke up and got behind their quarries. No sooner did Sreesanth’s car reach Moti Mahal than the cops, stealthily chasing it all the while, intercepted it. The source said that three women were also present in the car. They are being questioned by the police.

In the meantime, the other police team nabbed Mithania from Linking Road. Sreesanth’s teammate Chandila was also arrested from the Trident Hotel.

In a media briefing on Thursday afternoon, Delhi Police showed clippings of the three matches in which the players were allegedly involved in fixing specific overs.

The police also read out transcripts of conversations between the cricketers and the bookies, and played video clips where players were seen giving ‘indications’ ahead of a ‘fixed’ over. More than 100 hours of audio clippings were investigated by the police to get clues to the cricketers’ involvement.

The officials said that Chandila received Rs 20 lakh, Sreesanth and Chavan allegedly received Rs 40 lakh and Rs 50 lakh respectively for collaborating with bookies or their agents. The bowlers had allegedly been asked to give away a minimum of 14 runs in their second overs. Delhi Police Commissioner Neeraj Kumar said it was a coincidence that three players of the same team were involved in the fixing.

Source :

http://www.mid-day.com/news/2013/ma...treets-of-bandra-led-to-sreesanths-arrest.htm