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Sri Lanka v Pakistan | 3rd Test | July 3-7 | Pallekele | Day 2

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I am not blaming Shan but what our coaching staff, A team coaches, NCA coaches doing by not working on his technique.
 
Shan is club level batter.

Sami Aslam should have been invested in and deserved his chances as U19 captain.

What message does this send out to the rest?
 
Good job restricting SL to 278. For all the criticism that Rahat,Adil and Imran get, i still think all of them are better than Junaid. When Aamir and Wahab are back, Pakistan should choose 3 from Rahat,Adil,aamer and Wahab. Messi is of course an automatic selection at this point. :)
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Anyone that makes their debut in test cricket and only plays test cricket has no place in international cricket. This is not 1964 anymore.
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you don't know his future, sometimes player do debut in Test cricket, and Test cricket is the real testing thing. Or i think Yk, Missi, should also quit cricket because they are only playing Test
 
This is Shan's problem. He started well but then got into a rut and then looked at sea. Great set-up by Prasad, nevertheless.
 
Pakistan in a good position right now.

SL's tail has been very poor throughout the series. The tail starts once Angelo mathews gets out.
 
I fail to understand what Shan has done to get selected again and again. About time they make Azhar open with Shehzad and get a youngster in the middle order.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Shan is club level batter.

Sami Aslam should have been invested in and deserved his chances as U19 captain.

What message does this send out to the rest?
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2 Tests in Bangladesh against bowlers who are historically terrible in Tests and managed 47 runs in 3 innings. His time will come again but he didn't take his chances.
 
1) great bowling by Prasad

2)shan masood's ability to play such quality swing bowling is in question

3) what do the umpires have against Pakistan team? All marginal decisions against Pak.
 
#GreenRoars said:
you don't know his future, sometimes player do debut in Test cricket, and Test cricket is the real testing thing. Or i think Yk, Missi, should also quit cricket because they are only playing Test
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Pakistan does not play enough tests to justify anyone only playing Test cricket. If you lack ability to play LOI cricket then you don't get to play international cricket, thats how it should work.

Yasir plays ODIs. Misbah and YK are too old, they are exceptions.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Good job restricting SL to 278. For all the criticism that Rahat,Adil and Imran get, i still think all of them are better than Junaid. When Aamir and Wahab are back, Pakistan should choose 3 from Rahat,Adil,aamer and Wahab. Messi is of course an automatic selection at this point. :)
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Wahab, Rahat and Yasir will be automatic. If Aamer gains full fitness and form then ehsan has nothing on aamer. Heck even aamer looked better in the t20 domestic playing after 5 years gap.
 
Madplayer said:
1) great bowling by Prasad

2)shan masood's ability to play such quality swing bowling is in question

3) what do the umpires have against Pakistan team? All marginal decisions against Pak.
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Imagine what would happen if he faces Starc or Jimmy Anderson. Just not good enough.
 
Not a very pretty innings for Shaan.
Too many flaws to fix.
He will have a tougher time due to rumors about his 'connections'
 
Abdullah719 said:
2 Tests in Bangladesh against bowlers who are historically terrible in Tests and managed 47 runs in 3 innings. His time will come again but he didn't take his chances.
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The boy is 19. He was top scorer in U19 level.

Look what SA did with De Cock. Did you know Sami Aslam scored more runs than De Cock at U19 level?

Sami needs 6 months just to bed into international arena then he needs games. A games. Coaches need to work with him at NCA. He needs investment. He is son of the soil and a captain of our u19 team. These are the boys that need the attention.

We keep picking people like Shan, Hafeez and any other recommendation slip player that comes calling.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Wahab, Rahat and Yasir will be automatic. If Aamer gains full fitness and form then ehsan has nothing on aamer. Heck even aamer looked better in the t20 domestic playing after 5 years gap.
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I agree. But in any series, i'd expect Pakistan to pick 4 seamers and 2 spinners. My point was Junaid should not even be picked once aamer comes back because he has regressed way too much.
 
You gotta know the right people to keep getting selected, no matter how poor is your technique or form.

Hope they now stick to Sami in the next series, he's our future as an opener.

People would argue that both him and Babar Azam average 36 in FC, but that doesn't matter much when you have strokes and class, and are averaging 50 in List A.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
The boy is 19. He was top scorer in U19 level.

Look what SA did with De Cock. Did you know Sami Aslam scored more runs than De Cock at U19 level?

Sami needs 6 months just to bed into international arena then he needs games. A games. Coaches need to work with him at NCA. He needs investment. He is son of the soil and a captain of our u19 team. These are the boys that need the attention.

We keep picking people like Shan, Hafeez and any other recommendation slip player that comes calling.
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:anwara was also a legend at U19 level. I am not disagreeing with you, and he never should have been dropped from ODIs but when you can't take your chance against the worst Test-playing nation on flat wickets then you can't complain if you're dropped. He should definitely be in future plans though, but I doubt we have any openers in Pakistan who will be going off to England, NZ, and Aus and smashing big runs.
 
Abdullah719 said:
2 Tests in Bangladesh against bowlers who are historically terrible in Tests and managed 47 runs in 3 innings. His time will come again but he didn't take his chances.
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So what has Shan done to get selected. Is it his legendary 33 average in domestic cricket?
 
No matter how bad shan masood looked one thing is sure he definitely survived more overs than Hafeez who would have barely lasted 1 over on this wicket
 
Nikhil_cric said:
I agree. But in any series, i'd expect Pakistan to pick 4 seamers and 2 spinners. My point was Junaid should not even be picked once aamer comes back because he has regressed way too much.
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Junaid is finished but Pakistani selectors are very reluctant to give chances to the new ones.
 
Abdullah719 said:
:anwara was also a legend at U19 level. I am not disagreeing with you, and he never should have been dropped from ODIs but when you can't take your chance against the worst Test-playing nation on flat wickets then you can't complain if you're dropped. He should definitely be in future plans though, but I doubt we have any openers in Pakistan who will be going off to England, NZ, and Aus and smashing big runs.
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Sami delivered his runs in England. He was top run scorer in a tournament there.

His test debut came too soon. I don't know why they did that to him.

He made a solid 45 on his ODI debut and played some beautiful strokes. I saw lots of potential. His pull shots off the short ball were refreshing.

When a boy performs in front of a packed crowd in a ODI game then he has talent.

Look at Shan Masood, empty stadium and all the time in the world and can't play short or full ball.
 
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D/DAhmed said:
So what has Shan done to get selected. Is it his legendary 33 average in domestic cricket?
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He was selected on the basis on his performances against SL A. I was initially against it but I don't mind; let him be given a fair chance before we judge. Azhar and Shafiq were also averaging in the 30s in FC and still do; only recently Shafiq's FC average has reached 40 due to his Test performances.
 
Hawkeye said:
You gotta know the right people to keep getting selected, no matter how poor is your technique or form.

Hope they now stick to Sami in the next series, he's our future as an opener.

People would argue that both him and Babar Azam average 36 in FC, but that doesn't matter much when you have strokes and class, and are averaging 50 in List A.
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Sami isn't ready for test cricket. Too many technical flaws. Babar is miles ahead.
 
Well the wicket is not easy with the ball swinging especially with the lose openers we have
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Sami delivered his runs in England. He was top run scorer in a tournament there.

His test debut came too soon. I don't know why they did that to him.

He made a solid 45 on his ODI debut and played some beautiful strokes. I saw lots of potential. His pull shots off the short ball were refreshing.

When a boy performs in front of a packed crowd in a ODI game then he has talent.

Look at Shan Masood, empty stadium and all the time in the world and can't play short or full ball.
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He got a Test debut against the worst Test level pacers on the flattest Test pitches in the World (no offense BanglaBros). Remember Tamim and Imrul's 300 partnership? He can't complain. His time will come, insha'Allah.
 
When you see shehzad like guys bat you thank your lucky stars that we still have batsmen like azhar and asad who are willing to improve.
 
The difference between Pradeep and Lakmal was that Pradeep can also bring the ball in: Shehzad is too flat footed and indecisive.
He was never in.
 
didn't understand why Sami Aslam got dropped?!

Not sure why would you pick Ahmed Shehzad ahead of babar and aslam. Shehzad is a mediocre batsman
 
Abdullah719 said:
He got a Test debut against the worst Test level pacers on the flattest Test pitches in the World (no offense BanglaBros). Remember Tamim and Imrul's 300 partnership? He can't complain. His time will come, insha'Allah.
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Yah like three innings were good enough for a young player making debut? This is atrocious. You dont throw away youngsters after a failure or two.
 
Yunis need to score.. He hasn't scored anything in this series.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Yah like three innings were good enough for a young player making debut? This is atrocious. You dont throw away youngsters after a failure or two.
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They are happy to see a technically flawed player have 100 games and become 35 but leave no margin of error for a 19 year old with obvious pedigree.

No wonder Hafeez has made a career out of being a hack with fans like these.
 
For once shehzad was looking good. But the shot that he played to get out was quite an indecisive one. He didnt know whether to play or leave. He got out himself not due to the bowler.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Yah like three innings were good enough for a young player making debut? This is atrocious. You dont throw away youngsters after a failure or two.
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The only problem I have is that Shehzad was his replacement, because we all know he is not an intl. level Test opener; I guess he deserves a few more chances because of his past success but he has the same old issues. Sami Aslam is only 19, his time will come.
 
Abdullah719 said:
He was selected on the basis on his performances against SL A. I was initially against it but I don't mind; let him be given a fair chance before we judge. Azhar and Shafiq were also averaging in the 30s in FC and still do; only recently Shafiq's FC average has reached 40 due to his Test performances.
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Shafiq and Azhar had a lot of talent and this was quite obvious from an early age (Shafiq made 50 in an ODI against England while Azhar struck 92 against the same team). Shafiq and Azhar were also averaging 50+ in List A. This Shan has done absolutely nothing other than edge Steyn and co. to get a lucky 75 in the same match were Manzoor looked like Bradman. He lacks talent and technique and it is now fairly obvious to everyone that the only reason he is getting anywhere near the Pakistani test team is because of his dad and his uncle. Luckily for Pakistan cricket, people are starting to realize this and hopefully he won't be tolerated for much longer.
 
Abdullah719 said:
The only problem I have is that Shehzad was his replacement, because we all know he is not an intl. level Test opener; I guess he deserves a few more chances because of his past success but he has the same old issues. Sami Aslam is only 19, his time will come.
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A 25 year old with technical flaws and no track record picked over a U19 champion?

How is this justified tell me??

Nobody at this age with technical flaws should be playing international cricket. This is the reason why we are ranked 9th.
 
[MENTION=66397]Green[/MENTION]Roars I meant to say that YK jumps around the crease too much and is indecisive about his footwork, no need to ban me for my views.
 
Were struggling. Need to play an aaron finch innings in the world cup semi final. Just survive for a few overs no matter how ugly you look
 
Madplayer said:
For once shehzad was looking good. But the shot that he played to get out was quite an indecisive one. He didnt know whether to play or leave. He got out himself not due to the bowler.
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The shots looked good but he was never set. Lakmal was primary an outswing bowler against whom you can pretty much play everything through the covers. Pradeep and Prasad can move the ball both ways. Shehzads defensive technique is not good enough and hence we was indecisive and nicked it
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
They are happy to see a technically flawed player have 100 games and become 35 but leave no margin of error for a 19 year old with obvious pedigree.

No wonder Hafeez has made a career out of being a hack with fans like these.
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Test cricket is not the place to see whether a kid can make it or not. Opening is a very tough job which is why there are hardly any 19 year olds starting for intl. teams. Let him get some FC experience first, he has lots of years ahead of him. However, Hafeez and Shehzad are absolute sitting ducks as openers, so I don't agree with dropping Sami for either of them.
 
Who is Sami Aslam? Why should he be in the team instead of Masood Bradman, our world class opening batsman who is setting the world on fire with his scintillating knocks?
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
A 25 year old with technical flaws and no track record picked over a U19 champion?

How is this justified tell me??

Nobody at this age with technical flaws should be playing international cricket. This is the reason why we are ranked 9th.
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Just told you that I don't think Shehzad is cut out for it, but people will bring up his 47 avg. prior to this series, so no harm in seeing what he's made of. As expected, he has flattered to deceive when the conditions are tough to bat in, barring one innings. We're somewhat on the same page...
 
Man Of Steel said:
[MENTION=66397]Green[/MENTION]Roars I meant to say that YK jumps around the crease too much and is indecisive about his footwork, no need to ban me for my views.
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Wish you could have given him advice he was young.. Maybe then he couldve been one of the greatest test batsmen in our history.. Oh wait
 
D/DAhmed said:
Who is Sami Aslam? Why should he be in the team instead of Masood Bradman, our world class opening batsman who is setting the world on fire with his scintillating knocks?
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Sami is a mediocre and overrated left hander, Babar is a perfect choice.
 
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