The Russian invasion of Ukraine

[KingKhanWC]

I feel no pity for the supporters of NATO, but I can understand how their story and argument has changed.

From "Russia will lose this war within a month", to "Putin will dies of cancer", to "Russia has no more missiles", to "Russia's economy is no more", to "Xi is the enemy of the state."

Liberals, NATO apologists, have no argument, they have been defeated like their masters - CTRL + ALT + DEL.

Nato fans will cheer on Ukraine until the last Ukrainian , man , woman or child.

China have done great in bringing peace between Saudi & Iran, now they have presented a ceasefire plan to the Ukranians.

The Americans have stated 'NO' truce . Ukraine has lost this battle months ago, yet the west wont accept it.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The Maxim has “120 years of history killing Russians,” a soldier manning a firing position told the BBC, adding: “It’s a weapon from the First World War being used in the Third World War.”

The Maxim, a recoil-operated machine gun, was invented in 1884 by Hiram Stevens Maxim. It is credited as being the first fully automatic machine gun in the world.

Firing at a rate of 600 rounds per minute, it has to be water-cooled, adding considerable weight. It is, however, able to sustain its rate of fire far longer than air-cooled guns.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...-use-19th-century-machine-gun-repel-russians/

Slingshots and spears next?

 

[cpleigh]

The head of Wagner has today said Ukraine has 200k troops ready and 80k near Bakhmut and they plan to attack via Belograd split the Donbas in 2 then attack Crimea.

Also hinting at withdrawing Wagner from Ukraine all together.

 

[bones]

The head of Wagner has today said Ukraine has 200k troops ready and 80k near Bakhmut and they plan to attack via Belograd split the Donbas in 2 then attack Crimea.

Also hinting at withdrawing Wagner from Ukraine all together.

Kids and old men pulled from cafes and restaurants and shops isn't an army it's fodder. Ukraine is down to almost nothing.

Europe has all sorts of strikes and protests and the public is getting fed up with the war. They want to know why the Russians haven't been defeated yet despite the sanctions, military support and MSM fantasy news aired for months on end.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...y-world-may-embrace-china-s-ukraine-peace-bid

 

[cpleigh]

Europe's strikes have got nothing to do with the war. You already know that.

Any comments on the plan to attack via Belograd? I makes sense as the one bit of Crimea not defended is the route from Russia but it's highly risky. Not just in a military sense

 

[captain.hansolo]

The head of Wagner has today said Ukraine has 200k troops ready and 80k near Bakhmut and they plan to attack via Belograd split the Donbas in 2 then attack Crimea.

Also hinting at withdrawing Wagner from Ukraine all together.

The head of Wagner is hinting at the withdrawal of Wagner? that does not make much sense. besides, if there were that many troops positioned, satellite imagery would have alerted NATO allies of Ukraine who in turn would have alert Ukraine.

I believe a summer or late spring offensive is on the cards, but I do not believe it will be any better than the logistical nightmare that was the first offensive of this war.

 

[daytrader]

Bakhmut counteroffensive starts soon, says Ukrainian ground forces commander

Ukraine’s top ground forces commander Oleksandr Syrskyi said his forces would soon begin a counter offensive after withstanding Russia’s brutal winter campaign.

He said Russia’s Wagner mercenaries, who have been at the front line of Moscow’s assault on eastern and southern Ukraine, “are losing considerable strength and are running out of steam”.

“Very soon, we will take advantage of this opportunity, as we did in the past near Kyiv, Kharkiv, Balakliya and Kupiansk,” he said, listing Ukrainian counteroffensives last year that recaptured swathes of land.

The Guardian

 

[captain.hansolo]

The head of Wagner has today said Ukraine has 200k troops ready and 80k near Bakhmut and they plan to attack via Belograd split the Donbas in 2 then attack Crimea.

Also hinting at withdrawing Wagner from Ukraine all together.

hold on, ukraine has 200k troops ready for a push? highly suspect. they would be keeping such a large force in reserve for the longer war rather than use them to make a push.

assuming of course they have that large a force at their disposal.

 

[bones]

Europe's strikes have got nothing to do with the war. You already know that.

Any comments on the plan to attack via Belograd? I makes sense as the one bit of Crimea not defended is the route from Russia but it's highly risky. Not just in a military sense

European strikes are all interconnected. Inflation is through the roof, one of the key contributing factors is the price of energy, cheap energy that was bei supplied by Russia. Then there is the other key commodities that Russia supplies such as wheat.

There would still be inflation but just not at these double digit figures.

As for Ukrainian counter attacks, seems very reasonable, they are at war. Either they concentrate on defensive lines or if that's not possible then they attack elsewhere. But the question I have is what are they going to attack with? Have they magically found the ammunition that the west can't keep up supply with? Or perhaps they found 2000 drones in a newly discovered cave? Best yet did those 200k soldiers get the 12month training program from nato in a single month already?

Ukraine is clinging on for dear life, if they weren't the 51st state they would have been finished in every way already.

Spanish leader is looking to China to work on the ceasefire plan... Google it. He is the first others will soon follow.

 

[bones]

hold on, ukraine has 200k troops ready for a push? highly suspect. they would be keeping such a large force in reserve for the longer war rather than use them to make a push.

assuming of course they have that large a force at their disposal.

200k troops does not equate to 200k highly trained and we'll equipped troops. They will still need endless amounts of ammunition and other supplies. Given that Europe and America have all but drained their excess where will it come from?

 

[bones]

Isn't it interesting that Saudi Arabia, an ally of America is making deals with China as the mediator. Many African nations recently welcomed Lavrov lavishly but were very normal to Blinken.

The multi polar world is already here. The world is starting to de-dollarise.

 

[cpleigh]

hold on, ukraine has 200k troops ready for a push? highly suspect. they would be keeping such a large force in reserve for the longer war rather than use them to make a push.

assuming of course they have that large a force at their disposal.

Thats what he said yesterday.

 

[cpleigh]

Bakhmut counteroffensive starts soon, says Ukrainian ground forces commander

Ukraine’s top ground forces commander Oleksandr Syrskyi said his forces would soon begin a counter offensive after withstanding Russia’s brutal winter campaign.

He said Russia’s Wagner mercenaries, who have been at the front line of Moscow’s assault on eastern and southern Ukraine, “are losing considerable strength and are running out of steam”.

“Very soon, we will take advantage of this opportunity, as we did in the past near Kyiv, Kharkiv, Balakliya and Kupiansk,” he said, listing Ukrainian counteroffensives last year that recaptured swathes of land.

The Guardian

Its started. Russians are being pushed back in all directions around Bakhmhut

 

[the Great Khan]

Europe's strikes have got nothing to do with the war. You already know that.

Any comments on the plan to attack via Belograd? I makes sense as the one bit of Crimea not defended is the route from Russia but it's highly risky. Not just in a military sense

I think it isn't a good idea in my opinion. Bakhmut is increasingly looking like a massive trap. Wagner have been used as cannon fodder to pin down large numbers of Ukrainians and their resources. Zelensky should have pulled out a while back like the Russians did from Kherson. Local defeats via withdrawal are affordable in such a conflict. Now he has a massive problem.

The Russians are making gains elsewhere while Ukraine has lost so much in Bakmut. They are confident enough to be moving some formations away from Bakmut. This all seems to be a giant ruse and feint. If I were ukrops I would withdraw to a more defensible position outside Bakmut.

The Russians may simply allow the ukrops to enter Bakmut and then shut the trap. And artillery them to pieces.

The ukrops need to ensure the Russians pay dearly for every inch and they have tried to do it. But are now running out of men and weaponry. Thus I would say it may be time to break up and become more mobile..but I'm not a general.

I also feel the west is betraying them by feeding them false hope. Not convinced yet about this counter offensive.

 

[cpleigh]

I think it isn't a good idea in my opinion. Bakhmut is increasingly looking like a massive trap. Wagner have been used as cannon fodder to pin down large numbers of Ukrainians and their resources. Zelensky should have pulled out a while back like the Russians did from Kherson. Local defeats via withdrawal are affordable in such a conflict. Now he has a massive problem.

The Russians are making gains elsewhere while Ukraine has lost so much in Bakmut. They are confident enough to be moving some formations away from Bakmut. This all seems to be a giant ruse and feint. If I were ukrops I would withdraw to a more defensible position outside Bakmut.

The Russians may simply allow the ukrops to enter Bakmut and then shut the trap. And artillery them to pieces.

The ukrops need to ensure the Russians pay dearly for every inch and they have tried to do it. But are now running out of men and weaponry. Thus I would say it may be time to break up and become more mobile..but I'm not a general.

I also feel the west is betraying them by feeding them false hope. Not convinced yet about this counter offensive.

Agreed on that... but not for Ukraine but Russia. Its a classic Hedghog defence. Draw the attacker in and in doing so they become the ones encircled.

 

[cpleigh]

Another thing prighozin said is that Russia isn't fighting NATO in Ukraine, no NATO troops there and also they aren't fighting NAZIS either.

 

[Technics 1210]

Western sanctions on Russia have not only failed, but have backfired.

Inflation in Russia drops to 6%, while inflation in the West is hitting 40 year highs around 10%

Record trade surplus with Russia, trade deficit in the West.

Russia bans Russian banks from SWIFT as new payment system in the East gains tractions with Yuan/INR trade.

But but but, the war was going to be over in a month, Russia had no missiles, and Putin was going to die of cancer and replaced by a more moderate Russian leader.

)

 

[sweep_shot]

Western sanctions on Russia have not only failed, but have backfired.

Inflation in Russia drops to 6%, while inflation in the West is hitting 40 year highs around 10%

Record trade surplus with Russia, trade deficit in the West.

Russia bans Russian banks from SWIFT as new payment system in the East gains tractions with Yuan/INR trade.

But but but, the war was going to be over in a month, Russia had no missiles, and Putin was going to die of cancer and replaced by a more moderate Russian leader.

)

Russia has an intelligent and clever leader.

West mostly has male bimbos as their leaders. Most of them look, act, and talk like Mr. Bean.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The head of Wagner has today said Ukraine has 200k troops ready and 80k near Bakhmut and they plan to attack via Belograd split the Donbas in 2 then attack Crimea.

Also hinting at withdrawing Wagner from Ukraine all together.

This is not true.

The Wagner commander confirmed these reports are western rubbish again. He stated Wagner will fight in Ukraine as long as Russia requires. He only stated not to underestimate the enemy.

Meanwhile a historic moment and historic comment from the Chinese premier. Two great powers joining together to turn the world on its head.

 

[the Great Khan]

By the way confirmed pics of t90Ms in donbass..and wagner are closing in on the city centre of Bakhmut.

 

[cpleigh]

By the way confirmed pics of t90Ms in donbass..and wagner are closing in on the city centre of Bakhmut.

Course they are.... Like they have for 8 years.

The Russians are thick the obsession with that city has destroyed them

 

[the Great Khan]

Course they are.... Like they have for 8 years.

The Russians are thick the obsession with that city has destroyed them

Only wagner is fighting there..majority russ army isn't..

 

[bones]

Course they are.... Like they have for 8 years.

The Russians are thick the obsession with that city has destroyed them

They encircled it 2 months ago but the Ukrainians won't retreat. If the Russians are obsessed what about Ukraine?

The Russians aren't running to your timetable. You like MSM keep saying slow, stalled etc but unless you have access to Russian high command timetables you're wasting time repeating thus statement.

The Russians have an artillery advantage, no need to use mass infantry. Just stand back and use that rocket and conventional artillery. The Ukrainians on the other hand started off with an infantry advantage and now they don't.

 

[Firebat]

Ukraine war: Battle for Bakhmut 'stabilising', says commander

The battle for Bakhmut, the Ukrainian city which Russia has spent months trying to capture, is "stabilising", says Ukraine's commander-in-chief.

Valerii Zaluzhnyi said Ukrainian troops' "tremendous efforts" were holding back Russia.

Earlier this month, Western officials estimated between 20,000 and 30,000 Russian troops had been killed or injured in Bakhmut since last summer.

Moscow is eager for a victory after failing to make major recent gains.

Despite this, military analysts believe Bakhmut has little strategic value, with the city's importance now symbolic.

The high number of Russian casualties may be the main reason Ukraine has not withdrawn from the city, analysts say.

On Facebook, Lt Gen Zaluzhnyi said that while the situation on Ukraine's frontlines "is the toughest in the Bakhmut direction... due to the tremendous efforts of the defence forces, we are managing to stabilise the situation".

Lt Gen Zaluzhnyi posted after speaking to the UK's Chief of Defence Staff, Admiral Sir Tony Radakin, about the situation in Ukraine.

His comments are the latest positive signal from Ukrainian officials about the long battle for Bakhmut.

The UK's Ministry of Defence said on Saturday that Russia's assault on Bakhmut had "largely stalled", citing "extreme attrition" of the Russian force as a cause, and added that Russia had probably shifted its operational focus to the south and north of Bakhmut.

Such moves might suggest an "overall return to a more defensive operational design" after Russia failed to achieve significant results from its attempts to conduct a general offensive since January, the UK said.

Earlier this week, Oleksandr Syrsky, commander of the country's ground forces, said that Russian troops near Bakhmut were "exhausted".

Mr Syrsky added that while Russia had "not given up hope of taking Bakhmut at all costs despite losses in manpower and equipment... they are losing significant strength".

And Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky recently visited the frontline near Bakhmut, where he last visited in December.

Footage showed him in an old warehouse giving medals to soldiers, whom he called "heroes".

The Institute for War, a think tank, said on Thursday that although Ukraine was still outnumbered by the Wagner group, Ukrainian forces "continue to exhaust the mercenaries, which will enable Ukrainian forces to pursue unspecified future offensive operations".

Wagner, a private, mercenary organisation, is at the heart of the Russian assault on Bakhmut. Its leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, has staked his reputation on seizing the city.

The MoD said Russia's difficulties in Bakhmut were likely to have been exacerbated by tensions between Wagner and the Russian Ministry of Defence.

About 70,000 people lived in Bakhmut before the invasion, but only a few thousand remain.

For those left behind, including elderly and disabled people, conditions are difficult. Civilians spend almost the whole day in underground shelters because of intense shelling, said the ICRC's Umar Khan, who has been providing them with aid.

Mr Khan said people were being pushed to the very "limits of their existence and survival".

The capture of Bakhmut would bring Russia slightly closer to controlling the whole of Donetsk region, one of four regions in eastern and southern Ukraine illegally annexed by Russia last September.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65072173

 

[Firebat]

No Ukraine offensive without more weapons – Zelensky

President Volodymyr Zelensky has said Ukraine's counter-offensive against Russia cannot start until Western allies send more military support.

He told a Japanese newspaper he would not send his troops to the frontlines without more tanks, artillery and Himars rocket launchers.

In an interview with Yomiuri Shimbun, he said the situation in eastern Ukraine was "not good".

"We are waiting for ammunition to arrive from our partners," he said.

And when asked about the expected counter-offensive, he said: "We can't start yet, we can't send our brave soldiers to the front line without tanks, artillery and long-range rockets."

He added: "If you have the political will, you can find a way to help us. We are at war and can't wait."

There has been talk for some weeks of Ukraine launching a spring offensive against Russian forces. Ukrainian commanders have hinted it might be imminent. Oleksandr Syrskyi, commander of Ukraine's ground forces, said this week it might come "very soon".

Some analysts say Ukraine's military is talking up the idea of a counter-offensive to discomfit their Russian counterparts. They want Russian commanders to spread their forces thinly along the front lines, ready for any attack, rather than concentrate them in particular places, such as the eastern city of Bakhmut.

Other analysts believe a counter-offensive is possible soon. A US-based think tank, the Institute for the Study of War, last week suggested that Russia's own offensive was potentially losing momentum and concluded: "Ukraine is therefore well positioned to regain the initiative and launch counter-offensives in critical sectors of the current frontline."

But President Zelensky is more pessimistic. He has often warned that the war could drag on for years unless Western allies speeded up the delivery of weapons. But this is the first time he has actually said the counter-offensive itself might be delayed by the lack of Western equipment.

His remarks reflect not only his desire to encourage more speed, but also his frustration at what he sees as the lack of haste.

Ukraine's allies have promised more tanks, artillery and longer-range missile systems. But some countries are struggling to deliver what they pledged, while others are taking more time than expected to get the equipment to Ukraine.

Western officials say military support is arriving, but admit training and planning is taking time. They also point to other factors such as muddy terrain making it hard for any army to start manoeuvring easily and break through frontlines.

Such is the speculation about Ukraine's counter-offensive - in particular, when and where it might come - that the defence ministry has urged people to stop discussing potential plans.

Ukraine's Deputy Defence Minister Hanna Malyar claimed on social media that only three people had the right to disclose military plans publicly - the president, the minister of defence, and the commander in chief.

"All others can only quote them," she wrote. "Please stop asking experts questions about a counter-offensive on the air, please stop writing blogs and posts on this topic, please stop publicly discussing the military plans of our army."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65075952

 

[the Great Khan]

So the counter offensive doesn't seem to be happening either. Like I said the Russians are confident enough to move forces away. They are making gains in other areas while ukrops are bogged down in bakhmut.

 

[MenInG]

Russia will station tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus, President Vladimir Putin has said.

President Putin said the move would not violate nuclear non-proliferation agreements and compared it to the US stationing its weapons in Europe, according to Russian state media.

Moscow would not be transferring control of its arms to Minsk, he added.

The Belarusian regime is a firm Kremlin ally and supporter of the invasion of Ukraine.

President Putin told Russian state television on Saturday that Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko had long raised the issue of stationing tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus.

"There is nothing unusual here either," he said. "Firstly, the United States has been doing this for decades. They have long deployed their tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of their allied countries."

 

[daytrader]

IMF's massive $15.6b loan to Ukraine will be its first to a country at war
IMF approves massive loan to Ukraine as Pakistan struggles with tough conditionalities to secure staff-level agreement

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) approved a $15.6 billion loan to Ukraine earlier this week, the first time the global lender extended assistance to a country at war, as Pakistan still struggles to fulfil challenging conditions to secure financing from the Fund.

“The Ukrainian authorities and IMF staff have reached a staff-level agreement on a set of macroeconomic and financial policies that would be supported by a new 48-month Extended Fund Facility (EFF) Arrangement," the IMF said in a press release on Tuesday.

The announcement for the extension of $15.6 financing to the war-torn Western ally came the same day Pakistan barely averted default on fuel purchase payments to Kuwait — a difficult move for the government that might create problems in other areas because of the country's efforts to keep the overall expenses within the limits agreed with the IMF to resume its $6.5b bailout programme.

...
https://tribune.com.pk/story/240831...ukraine-will-be-its-first-to-a-country-at-war

 

[KingKhanWC]

So the counter offensive doesn't seem to be happening either. Like I said the Russians are confident enough to move forces away. They are making gains in other areas while ukrops are bogged down in bakhmut.

Wagner in 'full control' of AZOM plant in Bakhmut, reports Russian state media

Russia's private military group Wagner has taken "full control" of the AZOM metallurgical plant in the north of the city of Bakhmut, according to video posted by Russian state media and verified by CNN.

"Wagner has full control of the territory of AZOM, the Artemivsk [Bakhmut] non-ferrous metal processing plant," a correspondent for RIA Novosti said in a video, which captures Wagner fighters throughout the plant.

CNN cannot independently verify RIA's claim and has reached out to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense for comment but is yet to receive a response.

Bakhmut has become a focal point of Russia's invasion, with Moscow pressing hard to capture the city after failing to make major gains elsewhere.

https://www.erienewsnow.com/story/4...-plant-in-bakhmut-reports-russian-state-media

Seems similar to the Azov factory in Marioupol. This should help Wagner move quicker further into Bakhmut now.

 

[daytrader]

Germany sends much-awaited Leopard tanks

The first shipment of Leopard 2 tanks from Germany has been sent to Ukraine, the German defence ministry says.

Eighteen cutting-edge main battle tanks were delivered after Ukrainian crews were trained to use them.

Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said he was sure the tanks could "make a decisive contribution" on the frontlines of the war.

Challenger 2 tanks from the UK have also arrived, according to reports from Ukraine.

Ukraine has been calling for more modern vehicles and weapon systems for months to help fight Russia's invasion.

The Ukrainian government is yet to comment on the arrival of the Leopard 2s, but they have confirmed the arrival of the first UK-made Challenger 2 tanks.

Around 2,000 Leopard 2s, widely regarded as being among the best main battle tanks produced by Nato countries, are in use by European countries.

Germany agreed to supply the tanks to Ukraine in January, after being initially reluctant to do so - or even to permit other countries from sending their own.

Under German law, Berlin must approve Leopard 2s being re-exported by any country.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65095126

 

[daytrader]

Ukrainian parents hiding their children in basements in frontline cities
Volunteers say some families are refusing to evacuate and children have not seen the sun in months


Ukrainian parents hiding their children in basements in frontline cities
Volunteers say some families are refusing to evacuate and children have not seen the sun in months

Russia-Ukraine war – latest news updates
Isobel Koshiw and Oleksiy Savechnko in Kramatorsk
Thu 30 Mar 2023 05.00 BST
Ukrainian volunteers who have been evacuating civilians from the frontlines of the war with Russia say some parents have been hiding their children in basements to prevent them from being taken.

While parents have given different reasons, most volunteers have attributed the phenomenon to a combination of poverty and the psychological condition of the families, who have been living under bombing for months.

In early March, Ukraine’s government gave local authorities in the eastern city of Bakhmut, the site of one of the longest and bloodiest battles of Russia’s war, permission forcibly to evacuate children.

At present, this includes only settlements at risk of coming under Russian occupation, which the government has said is limited to Bakhmut. There are no legal powers for areas just as exposed along Ukraine’s 600-mile frontline, such as Avdiivka, a town south of Bakhmut.

Sasha, a volunteer medic in Bakhmut, described how other civilians would notify him of where children were being hidden.

“We knew (the child) was in this place so we went there and she had not been outside since September,” said Sasha, who shared a video of the labyrinth basement the child was living in. The children’s hands were grey from lack of sunlight. The mother said she feared going outside and had nowhere to go – a concern reflected by the volunteers, who said more work needed to be done on building relocation programmes for civilians.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...eir-children-in-basements-in-frontline-cities

 

[bones]

Sanctions have spectacularly backfired. More and more countries are ready to trade in non-dollar currencies and in some cases they already have.

The Americans wanted to show the world - hey this is what happens when you mess with us, we'll crash your economy because you can't use swift and we'll seize your assets. The exact opposite happened, the rest of the world realised hey these guys could and would steal from us whenever they see fit.

The average American doesn't realise it - but there is a major shift happening in the world right now and they're on the wrong side through entirely their own doing.

 

[the Great Khan]

Sanctions have spectacularly backfired. More and more countries are ready to trade in non-dollar currencies and in some cases they already have.

The Americans wanted to show the world - hey this is what happens when you mess with us, we'll crash your economy because you can't use swift and we'll seize your assets. The exact opposite happened, the rest of the world realised hey these guys could and would steal from us whenever they see fit.

The average American doesn't realise it - but there is a major shift happening in the world right now and they're on the wrong side through entirely their own doing.

Very true. It was a similar tactic to the ones they have used against Muslim countries in the past. This time there are alternatives.

As for Ukraine looks like Bakmut is on the verge.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Very true. It was a similar tactic to the ones they have used against Muslim countries in the past. This time there are alternatives.

As for Ukraine looks like Bakmut is on the verge.

That is an absurd statement. The nations sanctioned by United States have had one of the following attributes: 1. Support for a global terrorist organization, 2. Non democratic, totalitarian governments who are openly hostile to United States, 3. Violated global weapons non proliferation.

Now that’s not to say that this was not applied selectively, because it was: no sanctions against Saudi Arabia, Turkey were never sanctioned. That is not to say that non democratic states that were not hostile to the us were sanctioned, they were not (chile, pre revolution Iran etc).

Yes it is selective but those who were targeted have had it coming.

 

[KingKhanWC]

That is an absurd statement. The nations sanctioned by United States have had one of the following attributes: 1. Support for a global terrorist organization, 2. Non democratic, totalitarian governments who are openly hostile to United States, 3. Violated global weapons non proliferation.

Now that’s not to say that this was not applied selectively, because it was: no sanctions against Saudi Arabia, Turkey were never sanctioned. That is not to say that non democratic states that were not hostile to the us were sanctioned, they were not (chile, pre revolution Iran etc).

Yes it is selective but those who were targeted have had it coming.

You seem to believe Americans are always right , they have the right to kill , destroy , torture with sanctions because the planet belongs to them others have to follow these laws but they don’t .

These ideas are child mindset which lacks any ability to think & void of any empathy to others . In short might is right

You have a right to this view .

The problem for you is Russia is slapping NATOs proxy war. I hope you’ll be consistent when Russia or China uses its might to destroy anyone which is a threat to them . The one superpower days are over . Please get out of cuckoo land

 

[cpleigh]

Sanctions have spectacularly backfired. More and more countries are ready to trade in non-dollar currencies and in some cases they already have.

The Americans wanted to show the world - hey this is what happens when you mess with us, we'll crash your economy because you can't use swift and we'll seize your assets. The exact opposite happened, the rest of the world realised hey these guys could and would steal from us whenever they see fit.

The average American doesn't realise it - but there is a major shift happening in the world right now and they're on the wrong side through entirely their own doing.

Just no... Your hero Vlad the mad finally admitted this week that sanctions are crippling russia

 

[cpleigh]

So the counter offensive doesn't seem to be happening either. Like I said the Russians are confident enough to move forces away. They are making gains in other areas while ukrops are bogged down in bakhmut.

Have you not seen the videos of endless equipment being amassed by Ukraine. Easy to fight. Fields after fields of tanks, hummers etc

All being prepared. The counter offensive was never happening until the ground thawed.

It's nothing to do with confidence, they are moving them due to panic. To try and defend other areas. Russian telegram channels explain it all

 

[bones]

You know an expert commentator yesterday was asked why were sworn enemies, Iran and Saudi Arabiaable to have successful diplomatic talks mediated by the Chinese.

His answer was simple - The Americans weren't involved.

Therein lies the solution - keep America out and even enemies can put aside their differences.

 

[bones]

Have you not seen the videos of endless equipment being amassed by Ukraine. Easy to fight. Fields after fields of tanks, hummers etc

All being prepared. The counter offensive was never happening until the ground thawed.

It's nothing to do with confidence, they are moving them due to panic. To try and defend other areas. Russian telegram channels explain it all

Won't make any difference to the end result. Those vehciles, the majority of them won't even get near the frontlines because the very effective ISR will eliminate them.

The Russians have also shown footage of train after train after train loaded with Tanks and Artillery pieces, but I guess you chose to ignore them and selectively only comment on what you see fit.

Answer some simple questions.

How will Ukraine resupply these vehicles?
How will Ukraine repair them?
How will they maintain/service them?

The answer is they can't effectively. They don't have the warehouses or logistics. But guess what, they do have the warehouses and logistics for soviet era equipment, stuff they've trained on their entire lives.

The Ukrainian counter offensive won't be effective, they've got almost nothing left. They're down to about 120k reserves around the Donbas front and the Russians have close to 200k. It is a done deal and that's why the west is now writing article after article about the dire situation.

 

[the Great Khan]

Have you not seen the videos of endless equipment being amassed by Ukraine. Easy to fight. Fields after fields of tanks, hummers etc

All being prepared. The counter offensive was never happening until the ground thawed.

It's nothing to do with confidence, they are moving them due to panic. To try and defend other areas. Russian telegram channels explain it all

We will see. As usual we all make predictions until something happens. You could be righ5 of course I'm not denying it. But at this moment in time I'm just saying what I'm seeing.

 

[MenInG]

Stay on topic

This thread is not about Pakistan.

 

[captain.hansolo]

We will see. As usual we all make predictions until something happens. You could be righ5 of course I'm not denying it. But at this moment in time I'm just saying what I'm seeing.

yes i am skeptical of any counterattack. there is no reason to believe that when defending an urban territory, the defenders could inflict significant losses on the aggressors, somehow, when Ukraine attempts to regain similar territory, they will not have a similar challenge.

I think the best route to regaining lost territory is the approach they were taking in Crimea: limit access to resources such as water, remove land bridges to mainland russia, and then let things play out.

My best hope is that Ukraine comes out of this with a more transparent economy, and higher prosperity which leaves Russia in the dust. its not a challenging task, but they have a lot of rebuilding to perform.

 

[Abel Reames]

You seem to believe Americans are always right , they have the right to kill , destroy , torture with sanctions because the planet belongs to them others have to follow these laws but they don’t .

These ideas are child mindset which lacks any ability to think & void of any empathy to others . In short might is right

You have a right to this view .

The problem for you is Russia is slapping NATOs proxy war. I hope you’ll be consistent when Russia or China uses its might to destroy anyone which is a threat to them . The one superpower days are over . Please get out of cuckoo land

Likewise can we hope for consistency from you too? Can we expect you to villify the child mindset, lacking any ability to think and void of any empathy to any others, in short might is right - when this is practised by Russia and China?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Likewise can we hope for consistency from you too? Can we expect you to villify the child mindset, lacking any ability to think and void of any empathy to any others, in short might is right - when this is practised by Russia and China?

Sure if they are wrong , there is no issue for me. Im not a paid propagandist and neither do I have an inherent bias inside of me.

Russia was provoked, it came to liberate people who were being killed in their thousands by Nazis. If USA or UK did the same , I would applaud them too but they prefer to occupy and oppress. Its very difficult to side with Nazis and imperial terrorists but let me know if you do?

 

[daytrader]

‘Absurdity to a new level’ as Russia takes charge of UN security council
Monthly rotation of presidency of 15-member council has been unaffected by Ukraine war

n Ukraine, Moscow is pursuing an unprovoked war of aggression. In The Hague, Vladimir Putin is facing an arrest warrant for war crimes. But at the UN, Russia is about to take charge of a powerful international body, the security council.

From Saturday, it will be Russia’s turn to take up the monthly presidency of the 15-member council, in line with a rotation that has been unaffected by the Ukraine war.

The last time Russia held the gavel was in February last year, when Putin declared his “special military operation” in the middle of a council session on Ukraine. Fourteen months on, tens of thousands of people have been killed, many of them civilians, cities have been ruined and Putin has been indicted by the international criminal court for the mass abduction of Ukrainian children.

In such circumstances, putting Russia in the driving seat of a world body tasked with “maintaining international peace and security” seems like a cruel April fools joke to many, not least the Ukrainian mission to the UN.

“As of 1 April, they’re taking the level of absurdity to a new level,” said Sergiy Kyslytsya, the Ukrainian permanent representative. “The security council as it is designed is immobilised and incapable to address the issues of their primary responsibility, that is prevention of conflicts and then dealing with conflicts.”

The ambassador said Ukraine would stay away from the security council in April except in the case of an “issue of critical national security interest”. Ukraine is not a current council member, though it is often called to speak on issues related to the war.

The US, Britain, France and their supporters on the council are likely to show their disapproval by downgrading the level of their representation at Russian-hosted events over the course of the month, but no member state is known to be planning any form of boycott or other protest.

...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...as-russia-takes-charge-of-un-security-council

 

[KingKhanWC]

MSM are in mourning now , no choice but to admit the fall of Bakhmut is near.

 

[the Great Khan]

MSM are in mourning now , no choice but to admit the fall of Bakhmut is near.

I mentioned this above. Bakhmut will fall withinnthe next few weeks.

Once it does it is logical to assume the donbass will fall soon.

But then what? The Russians aren't speeding ahead. Do they really want to take the whole of Ukraine? By current calculations taking into account their current progress it would take them centuries to take the whole country. I suspect that once putin takes donbass he will make an offer.

 

[daytrader]

Russian pro-war military blogger killed in blast at St Petersburg cafe
Vladlen Tatarsky, who had over 560,000 followers on Telegram, died in explosion that is being investigated as murder

A prominent pro-war Russian military blogger has been killed in a blast in a cafe in central St Petersburg, Russia’s interior ministry said in a statement.

Vladlen Tatarsky, whose real name was Maxim Fomin, had more than 560,000 followers on Telegram and was one of the country’s most influential military bloggers.

More than 30 people were wounded in the blast on Sunday, Russia’s health ministry reported. Citing sources in the country’s security agencies, the RIA news outlet said a bomb was hidden in a statue presented to Tatarsky in a box as a gift during a public meeting. Russia’s state investigative committee said it had opened a murder investigation.

Mash, a Telegram channel with links to Russian law enforcement, posted a video that appeared to show Tatarsky, microphone in hand, being presented with a statue of a helmeted soldier. It said the explosion happened minutes later. Videos posted on social media show the explosion and injured people on the street.

A patriotic Russian group that organised the event said it had taken security precautions but acknowledged that those measures “proved insufficient”.

Russia’s Interfax news agency reported that a St Petersburg woman was arrested on suspicion of involvement in the bombing. It said that she had been previously detained for taking part in anti-war rallies.

Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova blamed Ukraine, saying Tatarsky’s activities “have won him the hatred of the Kyiv regime” and that he and other Russian military bloggers had long faced Ukrainian threats. Yevgeny Prigozhin, the head of Russia’s Wagner group whose mercenaries are fighting in Ukraine, said on Sunday he would “not blame the Kyiv regime” for it but a “group of radicals” instead.

...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...r-killed-blast-st-petersburg-vladlen-tatarsky

 

[bones]

But then what? The Russians aren't speeding ahead. Do they really want to take the whole of Ukraine? By current calculations taking into account their current progress it would take them centuries to take the whole country. I suspect that once putin takes donbass he will make an offer.

According to Tony Schauffer, Doug MacGregor etc they will go beyond the Donbas but how far is up to them. If the Ukrainians have nothing left to hold then places further north of the Donbas will be very achievable. They need some sort of buffer zone anyway given what's happened since 3014.

It's more a matter of when the masters in Washington let their puppet come to the table.

 

[the Great Khan]

According to Tony Schauffer, Doug MacGregor etc they will go beyond the Donbas but how far is up to them. If the Ukrainians have nothing left to hold then places further north of the Donbas will be very achievable. They need some sort of buffer zone anyway given what's happened since 3014.

It's more a matter of when the masters in Washington let their puppet come to the table.

Do we know how many of the 300k troops that have been mobilised are on the field. They seem to be very close to taking Adviika but it's been a grind. It seems from the British report above they have stalled. I tend to believe that the majority of the 300k have not been used yet. The key is Bakhmut. If they can take it the whole line could collapse. It is entirely possible we will see a ukrops counter offensive soon.

 

[bones]

Do we know how many of the 300k troops that have been mobilised are on the field. They seem to be very close to taking Adviika but it's been a grind. It seems from the British report above they have stalled. I tend to believe that the majority of the 300k have not been used yet. The key is Bakhmut. If they can take it the whole line could collapse. It is entirely possible we will see a ukrops counter offensive soon.

They have mobilised 500k according to several sources and 130k are ready and waiting east of Bakhmut. These 130k are waiting for weather to improve.

Again I'm repeating what those guys are saying in alternative media.

 

[the Great Khan]

They have mobilised 500k according to several sources and 130k are ready and waiting east of Bakhmut. These 130k are waiting for weather to improve.

Again I'm repeating what those guys are saying in alternative media.

This could be accurate as we haven't seen much movement. I have heard they are still training many of these troops. Bakhmut is the key. Ukrops have done well up until now but without more manpower sooner or later it will bite.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I mentioned this above. Bakhmut will fall withinnthe next few weeks.

Once it does it is logical to assume the donbass will fall soon.

But then what? The Russians aren't speeding ahead. Do they really want to take the whole of Ukraine? By current calculations taking into account their current progress it would take them centuries to take the whole country. I suspect that once putin takes donbass he will make an offer.

My personal view is Putin has played this in a genius way so far.

His decision to release tough, hardened criminals from his prisons and induct them into the private military Wagner has been very successful. The Russian public aren't seeing their official soldiers dying in huge numbers and these ex criminals actually enjoy fighting, they have little fear and fight very hard.

The longer this war continues the stronger Russia is becoming in its global influence in the world. Without this war , would China and others have become so close to Russia, probably not. The west needs to understand Putin is revered by half the planet esp in Arab nations, Africa and South America, people are happy finally someone is standing up to Western hegemony.

Russia's missile technology is very impressive and very effective, if they want they can destroy all of Ukraine within a week but this is not their aim and neither is to take Kyiv.

I think Russia doesnt mind taking it easy, as sooner or later there will be a huge rift within Ukranian forces. Zelensky is now no longer a hero to most . I think they will wait until Ukraine explodes within and then Im sure they have some lined up to form a new government which is favourable to them or at the least neutral.

The length of time has also allowed many Europeans and Americans to wake up and realise this is doing more harm to them than they expected. A group walked out the Austrian parliament in protest at Zelensky speaking. The Germans have had enough too, knowing the US blew up Nord Stream harming their economy.

Finally, the Petrodollar will no longer be the worlds reserve currency in the near future. The war has made this a reality now.

 

[the Great Khan]

India has also quietly hedged its bets. They are now trading in rupees with the UAE. While our duffers still think mcdonalds is the way to go. Khan was ahead of the game.

With regards to this war the question is what happens if the so called ukrops counter offensive fails. We have seen the Russians are perfectly happy to give up ground and then degrade their opponents.

The whole aim is to demilitarise Ukraine but at the same time to hit NATO on the geopolitical front too.

They are panicking. Just see their statements

 

[bones]

1. The Ukraine war is going to destroy the petrodollar.
2. The alliance against the dollar has spectacularly increased.
3. The west are utterly powerless to stop this.

 

[bones]

Who would have thought the Ukraine waf and specifically the sanctions would backfire so badly on the west. They don't know what to do. The rest of the world were waiting for this moment and one by one they are shifting.

 

[KingKhanWC]

1. The Ukraine war is going to destroy the petrodollar.
2. The alliance against the dollar has spectacularly increased.
3. The west are utterly powerless to stop this.

Putin is a genius.

Please update the thread I started of the petrodollar.

Here is another genius move and one which also proves Russian economy is doing just fine even after the sanctions which have of course failed flat on their backsides.

Russia Writes Off 20 Billion In Debt To African Countries

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news...-Debt-To-African-Countries-20230320-0015.html

 

[captain.hansolo]

India has also quietly hedged its bets. They are now trading in rupees with the UAE. While our duffers still think mcdonalds is the way to go. Khan was ahead of the game.

With regards to this war the question is what happens if the so called ukrops counter offensive fails. We have seen the Russians are perfectly happy to give up ground and then degrade their opponents.

The whole aim is to demilitarise Ukraine but at the same time to hit NATO on the geopolitical front too.

They are panicking. Just see their statements

you really ought to post some where is it that you obtain these opinions from, because they sound very much like regurgitated statements. for one, trading in rupees with the UAE is a way to preserve the foreign exchange and increase the valuation of the local currency, which in turn permits acquisition of exports that are denominated in USD or Euros, easier. but it comes at the opportunity cost of lost competitiveness. its a difficult balance, but given the economy in india is still growing at +5%, a little diffusion of the pent up steam cannot be that detrimental.

Think of it as preparing for the rainy day while the sun is still shining bright.

moving onto your statement of a failed counter offensive, and the russians degrading their enemy... connect with reality mate. both sides are suffering comparable losses, though russia has certainly taken more losses when one considers only the belligerent forces. ukraine is paying the price in lost infrastructure and civilian losses, and the military losses too. however, russian losses have been pointedly military losses. who is degrading the other, well if you ask someone neutral they will likely state ukraine is degrading russia.

as for demilitarization of ukraine and hitting nato on the geopolitical front, well that has been a bust on both ends.

 

[bones]

moving onto your statement of a failed counter offensive, and the russians degrading their enemy... connect with reality mate. both sides are suffering comparable losses, though russia has certainly taken more losses when one considers only the belligerent forces. ukraine is paying the price in lost infrastructure and civilian losses, and the military losses too. however, russian losses have been pointedly military losses. who is degrading the other, well if you ask someone neutral they will likely state ukraine is degrading russia.

as for demilitarization of ukraine and hitting nato on the geopolitical front, well that has been a bust on both ends.

The Russians are losing men and equipment but the Ukrainians are losing many times more. There is one simple reason for this - firepower. The Russians have several times more artillery and are shooting several times more shells, mortars and missiles. The Ukrainians even with everything given by the west cannot keep up in what is an artillery war.

75%-80% of the deaths on both sides is from artillery. They are not even getting close enough most of the time for conventional small arms combat.

Ukraine has lost 200k + kia, 20 million have left the country as refugees - many have said that they won't return. The country's energy and transportation infrastructure has taken a pounding and take months if not years to recover. They have lost the most resource rich and mineral abundant region of their country. But somehow they are winning?

The Russians have not even begun their counter offensive, the weather, ground conditions and defensive lines in the Donbas have dictated that they need to wait. But rest assured provided that negotiations don't happen that Russian offensive will come.

As for geo-political situation. Can you explain why historic allies of America are moving towards Russia /China? The dollar is weakening before our very eyes and rapidly. The Russians have coped with the sanctions (economic shock and awe) from the west and are about to cause hyper inflation in the west by reducing oil supply with Opec.

Please do a little research on these topics before you make such outlandish false claims.

Search the following topics in search engine: de-dollarization, Donbas natural resources, Ukraine mud & military manoeuvre.

 

[MenInG]

Russia 'likely behind leak of classified US military documents', three American officials say

It is likely that Russia or pro-Russian individuals were behind the leak of several classified documents that were published on social media, US officials have said.

Three insiders told the Reuters news agency that the documents appear to have been altered to lower the number of casualties suffered by Russian forces.

A similar theory has been put forward by numerous Western experts. However, the US officials made clear their assessments were informal and separate from an investigation into the leak itself.

The Pentagon has declined to comment on the authenticity of the documents circulating on sites including Twitter and Telegram, which are dated 1 March and appear to be classified as "Secret" and "Top Secret."

A leak of such sensitive documents is highly unusual and would automatically trigger an investigation.

"We are aware of the reports of social media posts and the Department (of Defence) is reviewing the matter," Pentagon spokesperson Sabrina Singh said.

One document posted on social media said 16,000 to 17,500 Russian forces had been killed since Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

The US believes that actual figure is much higher, at around 200,000 Russians killed and wounded, officials say.

SKY

 

[the Great Khan]

And slowly this thread starts to dissappear as the realisation dawns.

Intense battle for the bakhmut railway station. If ukrops lose this one then bakhmut is practically done. Major meat grinder at the moment. As i mentioned above the centre was taken a few days ago. Only a matter of time now.

 

[bones]

And slowly this thread starts to dissappear as the realisation dawns.

Intense battle for the bakhmut railway station. If ukrops lose this one then bakhmut is practically done. Major meat grinder at the moment. As i mentioned above the centre was taken a few days ago. Only a matter of time now.

Yep - look how quiet it's gone. It's the same all over various forums and social media. Let's be fair though some people have lost interest because they have short attention spans.

As for the Ukranian resistance, well some reports I've seen have a figure of 80k reasonably equipped forces + 120k poorly equipped and trained forces. So there's plenty of Ukranian soldiers still to sacrifice for the comedian.

Did you see the comment from Prighozhin about the plan. Apparently General Sukovin had planned last year that they'll surround Bakhmut and let the Ukranians poor equipment and personally in. The Ukranians have obliged. Ukranian Generals didn't want this, the comedia did.

I still think this has some way to go - but like in WW2 the outcome was sealed 2 years before the official end. The Ukrainians have lost - but they keep fighting on pointlessly.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Hollande also admits to pranksters , the Minsk was only to allow time for Ukraine to arm.

After 13 months , so much truth has come out, only a biased person or a fool would suggest now Russia is the aggressor.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The head of Wagner is hinting at the withdrawal of Wagner? that does not make much sense. besides, if there were that many troops positioned, satellite imagery would have alerted NATO allies of Ukraine who in turn would have alert Ukraine.

I believe a summer or late spring offensive is on the cards, but I do not believe it will be any better than the logistical nightmare that was the first offensive of this war.

Ukraine May Run Out of Air Defenses by May, Leaked Pentagon Documents Warn
Kyiv is depleting its last reserves of S-300 missiles, making it possible for Russia to achieve air superiority, according to purported Pentagon presentations

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukrain...y-may-leaked-pentagon-documents-warn-b96b0655

Any guess as to how many missiles remaining?

 

[the Great Khan]

It's understandable that their Russian origin ammunition and missiles will soon start running out. They can't resupply. They will increasingly rely on western arms but they are in short supply. Sooner or later this will give. The Russians are just grinding away. They can sustain losses and replenish them. The ukrops can't. Not quickly anyway. Already We are seeing the cracks appearing.

 

[MenInG]

What's this about and the implications?

==

A leak of classified US Defence Department documents is a "very serious" risk to national security, the Pentagon has said.

The documents appear to include sensitive information regarding the war in Ukraine, as well as on China and US allies.

Officials say the files are in a format similar to documents issued to senior leaders.

An investigation has been opened to determine the source of the leak.

The documents - some of which officials believe have been altered - first appeared on online platforms such as Twitter, 4chan and Telegram, as well as on a Discord server for the video game "Minecraft".

In addition to highly detailed information about the war in Ukraine, some of the leaked documents are said to cast light on sensitive briefing materials relating to US allies.

Other documents reportedly focus on defence and security issues in the Middle East as well as in the Indo-Pacific region.

What does the huge leak of Ukraine war documents tell us?
Speaking to reporters on Monday, a high-ranking Pentagon official said the documents were "a very serious risk to national security and have the potential to spread disinformation".

"We're still investigating how this happened, as well as the scope of the issue," said Chris Meagher, the assistant to the secretary of defence for public affairs.

"There have been steps to take a closer look at how this type of information is distributed and to whom."

Mr Meagher declined to answer when asked if the Pentagon believes the documents to be genuine, although he said that some "appear to have been altered".

The Justice Department is now investigating the leak, alongside officials from the Pentagon, White House and elsewhere in the US government.

The format of the documents is similar to that "used to provide daily updates to our senior leaders on Ukraine and Russia-related operations, as well as other intelligence updates," Mr Meagher added.

The Pentagon first became aware of the document leak last week, with Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin first briefed on the matter on 6 April, he said.

Mr Meagher said that the document leak has prompted US officials to reassure its allies "of our commitment to safeguarding intelligence and fidelity to our security partnerships".

At a separate briefing, national security spokesman John Kirby said that US President Joe Biden was first briefed about the leak last week.

When asked whether the leak has so far been contained and whether other documents have yet to be released, Mr Kirby said "I don't know".

BBC News has so far reviewed more than 20 of the documents, many of which appear to detail the deployment and state of Ukrainian and Russian forces ahead of a long-awaited spring offensive by Ukrainian forces.

Some documents, for example, appear to outline US training and equipment being provided to Ukraine ahead of the offensive, as well as when various Ukrainian units will be ready and the anticipated delivery time of military supplies.

While Mr Meagher declined to comment on the potential impact that the documents could have on the front lines in Ukraine, he said that "the Ukrainians have demonstrated their capability and competence in this war".

"The president and secretary [of defence] have both made clear that the United States is going to be with them for as long as it takes," he said.

BBC

 

[bones]

What's this about and the implications?

==

A leak of classified US Defence Department documents is a "very serious" risk to national security, the Pentagon has said.

It seems like this is a genuine leak. In other words it is a planned leak as part of the deception game that goes on during war.

Someone high up in the US regime is fed up of lying to the public. By releasing this information they are asking msm to start asking the right questions. You told us all along more Russians were dying but this leaked intel says nothing of the sort.

On the one hand they claim it’s a genuine leak and on the other hand they say the death numbers are altered. The information in these leaks is not a surprise to me- we knew all along that the Ukrainians were suffering horrendous losses.

 

[the Great Khan]

It seems like this is a genuine leak. In other words it is a planned leak as part of the deception game that goes on during war.

Someone high up in the US regime is fed up of lying to the public. By releasing this information they are asking msm to start asking the right questions. You told us all along more Russians were dying but this leaked intel says nothing of the sort.

On the one hand they claim it’s a genuine leak and on the other hand they say the death numbers are altered. The information in these leaks is not a surprise to me- we knew all along that the Ukrainians were suffering horrendous losses.

What are the numbers in the leak? I cant seem to find the info now..

 

[bones]

What are the numbers in the leak? I cant seem to find the info now..

I can’t either but it was some song the lines of 15k Kia for Russia and 75k Kia for Ukraine in the same time period. Not sure what the time period was.

 

[bones]

The biggest statement in the leaks which are proving difficult to find again, was that by the end of May the Ukrainians would have virtually no air defence.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The biggest statement in the leaks which are proving difficult to find again, was that by the end of May the Ukrainians would have virtually no air defence.

The leaks were deliberate. In order to undermine US's partners. This may be hard to believe but there is a deliberate move to weaken US, within but of course Zionists. US and Israel have been bickering recently with US not happy with Netanyahu and his Jewish extremist coalition partners taking their state terrorism and oppression to another level. The US wants them to calm down as they dont want the middle east all going against them but Israel doesnt care. In fact under Jewish ideology, their Messiah can only return and build the temple if Israel the worlds only superpower. The leaks speak much truth but I wouldn't take them seriously when it comes to Ukraine, as both US and Israel want this conflict to continue for as long as possible, both for different reasons. Therefore they will want to keep the narrative of the Ukraine not taking heavy causalities compared to Russia.

Leaked estimates show more than twice as many Russians and Ukrainians have been killed in the war.
Up to 43,000 Russians and 17,500 Ukrainians may have died on the battlefield, US intel reveals.
The figures were included in a leak of highly sensitive Pentagon documents now being investigated.

https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...and,Pentagon documents now being investigated.

 

[bones]

So it turns out the Ukrainian and msm were lying regarding the nuclear power plant attack last year. They denied it initially. Turns out the Russians were found to be truthful….. again.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...r-power-plant-russia-putin-war-2023-fx82xz3xz

 

[Technics 1210]

The leaks also reveal that Western forces are in Ukraine.

What an utter embarrassment for Western liberalism. Their lies have truly been exposed on a monumental level!

So much for the claims that NATO is not fighting this war.

 

[the Great Khan]

T90M's active in Bakhmut. 80% city in ruskies hands. Ukrops are withdrawing further west but only a matter of time. Frontline is now beyond the railway lines.

No sign of the mighty Challengers and Leopards. No sign of a ukrops counter attack just yet.

This thread is becoming a graveyard in comparison to earlier. Perhaps the reality is dawning.

Also are we watching the further erosion of western influence ? Europe is regretting this inmho.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I think the remaining alive Ukrainians in Bakhmut have decided to end it on a suicide mission. They want to die while taking out as many Russians asap.


Yanks stating their troops are only operating in their embassy after the leaks.

Europe is waking up to being vassals of Yanks and the public in Europe is also waking up to realising their real enemy isnt Putin.

 

[mazkhan]

T90M's active in Bakhmut. 80% city in ruskies hands. Ukrops are withdrawing further west but only a matter of time. Frontline is now beyond the railway lines.

No sign of the mighty Challengers and Leopards. No sign of a ukrops counter attack just yet.

This thread is becoming a graveyard in comparison to earlier. Perhaps the reality is dawning.

Also are we watching the further erosion of western influence ? Europe is regretting this inmho.

Russia has lost its military is destroyed armour elite troops etc. They are fighting with ww1 tactics and now become a war of attrition.

Putin is ill its In the leaks he's no spring chicken anyway how long will he be in power anyway ?

The whole military hierarchy is a shambles and the incompetent generals who are constantly being moved around or sacked are just waiting for him to be bed ridden or die and you will see they will strike a deal and withdraw from this disastrous war.

Even if russia conquers whole of Ukraine it will end up with a ukranian insurgency and sabotage cells constantly attacking they have even managed to reach russia and assassinate pro regime people on russian soil itself and carry out sabotage attacks in russia this war is financially ruinous for russia as well

The usa west have set putin up and trapped russia into a Vietnam like war they will never win and just grind down their military hardware and huge casualties in manpower and that's what's happened.

Great Khan it's been over 8 months and still russia has not been able to conquer bakhmut . Or even cut-off all supplies to the ukranian positions
Tells you all you need to know about their performance, even with scorched earth policy they still have made an absolute pigs ear of taking it. And that's was one rail junction town in the donbas never mind taking the rest of the Eastern ukraine, wonder where they will get all the renewed armour, troops to then relaunch after bakhmut on other areas the war the way russia is fighting is simply unsustainable .

 

[the Great Khan]

Russia has lost its military is destroyed armour elite troops etc. They are fighting with ww1 tactics and now become a war of attrition.

Putin is ill its In the leaks he's no spring chicken anyway how long will he be in power anyway ?

The whole military hierarchy is a shambles and the incompetent generals who are constantly being moved around or sacked are just waiting for him to be bed ridden or die and you will see they will strike a deal and withdraw from this disastrous war.

Even if russia conquers whole of Ukraine it will end up with a ukranian insurgency and sabotage cells constantly attacking they have even managed to reach russia and assassinate pro regime people on russian soil itself and carry out sabotage attacks in russia this war is financially ruinous for russia as well

The usa west have set putin up and trapped russia into a Vietnam like war they will never win and just grind down their military hardware and huge casualties in manpower and that's what's happened.

Great Khan it's been over 8 months and still russia has not been able to conquer bakhmut . Or even cut-off all supplies to the ukranian positions
Tells you all you need to know about their performance, even with scorched earth policy they still have made an absolute pigs ear of taking it. And that's was one rail junction town in the donbas never mind taking the rest of the Eastern ukraine, wonder where they will get all the renewed armour, troops to then relaunch after bakhmut on other areas the war the way russia is fighting is simply unsustainable .

Supplies are now cut off. They aren surrounded. Fighting is moving to the West. Russian airbourne are now in the town and are relieving wagner. The ukrops are losing a large number of their elite units.


The plan is not to conquer Ukraine. The ruskies will retain the Donbass. And create a buffer zone. Then they will station air craft and stand off weaponry around Ukraine. They will ensure a regular level of activity to degrade ukrops for as long as they want. But this is my opinion. Once Bakhmut goes the donbass will be taken. Ukrops are running out of weapons money and men. They are also corrupt to the core so expect defections and desertions once their final elite are destroyed.

As for the future. I don't know. I would prefer a ceasefire and negotiations but the comedian isn't gonna do that until uncle tells him.

The Russian army has been reconstituted. The results are now being seen on the ground. They have large amounts of ammunition their economy is ok and they have fighters a plenty.

 

[bones]

Russia has lost its military is destroyed armour elite troops etc. They are fighting with ww1 tactics and now become a war of attrition.

That’s not true at all. Yes it is a war of attrition, it always was and the Ukrainians are on the wrong the side. Why wouldn’t the Russians use their artillery advantage?

Putin is ill its In the leaks he's no spring chicken anyway how long will he be in power anyway ?

Biden has dementia but you don’t see Russian keep bringing it up. Even if Putin is ill, his replacement is likely to even more of a hardliner. What people fail to understand is that Putin is actually very very moderate. Compare his views to those of Medvedev for example.

The whole military hierarchy is a shambles and the incompetent generals who are constantly being moved around or sacked are just waiting for him to be bed ridden or die and you will see they will strike a deal and withdraw from this disastrous war.

Some might say this is a very good thing. They are not afraid of changing leadership during a war. Better to replace and adapt than to keep on losing. Ukraine have also changed their military leadership but why not mention that? Historically many winning sides have had infighting and changes. I’ll come onto your comment regarding disastrous war in a moment.

Even if russia conquers whole of Ukraine it will end up with a ukranian insurgency and sabotage cells constantly attacking they have even managed to reach russia and assassinate pro regime people on russian soil itself and carry out sabotage attacks in russia this war is financially ruinous for russia as well

Russia never once said they had intention of capturing the whole of Ukraine, they have no interest in that. That’s only your imagination fuelled by lies in MSM. The Russians wanted Crimea and Donbas and they’re about to get both and then some. If the Russians take what they set out to, they’ll create a buffer zone and have policing in place. The people of Donbas are like those in Crimea, they want to join Russia. That is why the Russians are also not interested in north or west Ukraine, they know those people are not interested in joining Russia, they are ethnically not alike.

The usa west have set putin up and trapped russia into a Vietnam like war they will never win and just grind down their military hardware and huge casualties in manpower and that's what's happened.

Have you read the leaked documents carefully? There is grinding down happening but it’s happening a lot faster to the west and Ukraine than to Russia. Both sides are scrambling around for ammunition but the west are demanding a lot more and a lot more quickly.

Great Khan it's been over 8 months and still russia has not been able to conquer bakhmut . Or even cut-off all supplies to the ukranian positions
Tells you all you need to know about their performance, even with scorched earth policy they still have made an absolute pigs ear of taking it. And that's was one rail junction town in the donbas never mind taking the rest of the Eastern ukraine, wonder where they will get all the renewed armour, troops to then relaunch after bakhmut on other areas the war the way russia is fighting is simply unsustainable .

Care to comment on the leaked documents revealing the following:
- The kill ratio is 1:7, for every Russian 7 Ukranians are dying
- The Ukranians have close to no air defense and by the end of May they’ll have none
- The Ukrainians are in no position to mount a serious counter offensive – above the BTG level
- The Russians are not storming towns, they are surrounding and pounding, they’re happy to go slow because it is saving lives of their soldiers
You have been very selective with your assessment and your picture of events in Ukraine are fantasy.

For Russia to win, they need Crime and Donbas. For Ukraine to win they need Donbas and Crimea. It’s pretty clearly from the leaks the Americans think the Ukranians have no chance of a win.

 

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Ukrainian orchestra’s key members refused visas to play in UK
Promoter claims ‘catastrophe’ has cost it more than £88k and accuses British government of hypocrisy

Key members of a Ukrainian state orchestra were refused visas to play a series of concerts in the UK this month in a “catastrophe” that the promoter claims cost it more than €100,000 (£88,000).

The Khmelnitsky Orchestra was due to tour the UK this month with two shows: The Magical Music of Harry Potter, and The Music From the Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit andThe Rings of Power.

The shows had been promoted on the UK government website as an example of British-Ukrainian relations. After the orchestra played the Harry Potter show in Belgium last year, the deputy British ambassador in Brussels, Chloe Louter, hailed it as “an incredible honour to have such an iconic part of British culture being performed by a Ukrainian orchestra”.

The promoter, Star Entertainment, has accused the UK government of hypocrisy.

“They made a big deal out of supporting the Ukrainians but when it came to giving them visas to play in the UK, they didn’t want to know,” said its chief executive, Jaka Bizilj, who is known in the UK entertainment industry after working with Richard Curtis on two film projects and with Bob Geldof on the Cinema for Peace Foundation, which evacuated the Russian dissident Alexei Navalny from Siberia to Berlin in 2020.

He called on the culture secretary, Lucy Frazer, to stand down if artists keep being treated like this, saying the immigration difficulties experienced by an increasing number of foreign artists “damages UK citizens, culture and the relationship to Europe”.

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...n-orchestra-key-members-refused-visas-play-uk

 

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Top 10 hedge funds made £1.5bn profit from Ukraine war food price spike
Analysis covering first quarter of last year raises questions over role of speculators in inflating food prices

Hedge funds have emerged as some of the biggest winners from the global food price spike that followed Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, with the world’s 10 biggest hedge funds alone making profits estimated at nearly $2bn.

Analysis of the profits of the top 10 hedge funds for the first quarter of last year shows that they are likely to have made about $1.9bn (£1.5bn) from trading in two food commodities, grain and soya beans, in the run-up to and immediate aftermath of the invasion.

The findings, compiled by Greenpeace and the non-profit journalism organisation Lighthouse Reports, have raised fresh questions over the role of hedge funds and other speculators in inflating food prices, as a global cost of living crisis continues to bite. After the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, moved to invade last February, prices of many key commodities – many of which had already been on the rise as the world recovered from the Covid-19 pandemic – shot up in response.

Olivier De Schutter, co-chair of the International Panel of Experts on Sustainable Food Systems and UN special rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights, said: “Hedge funds and financial speculators have made obscene profits by betting on hunger and exacerbating it. That cannot be right. At the start of the Ukraine war, financial investors piled into grains and commodities in large numbers, seeking to capitalise on uncertainty and rising food prices, and they hit the jackpot.”

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/14/hedge-funds-profit-ukraine-war-food-price-surge