Gonzalo Lira had nothing to do with 'freedom and democracy', he was a Chilean Kremlin agent who was illegaly in Ukraine and was provided intel to the Russians.
He was arrested, as he should be.
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Gonzalo Lira had nothing to do with 'freedom and democracy', he was a Chilean Kremlin agent who was illegaly in Ukraine and was provided intel to the Russians.
He was arrested, as he should be.
Sarcasm? You were were quoting Ukranian telegram channels lol when you told us about this great offensive in Bakhmut.
Have the Russians run out of missiles yet?
If he was a spy, then so are so many others on social media. He was just a person who express pro-Russian views.
Of course it's sarcasm... Russia lies.
Oh... they've changed their minds now... confirmed they HAVE retreated in Bakhmut.
Run out? Yes for large scale assaults. They are now having to wait weeks between them, and even then they are tiny in comparison to what was happening in the winter.
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Germany pledges almost $3bn in new military aid to Ukraine
New military aid includes 30 Leopard 1 A5 tanks, 20 Marder armoured personnel carriers, and 200 reconnaissance drones.
Germany will provide Ukraine with additional military aid worth almost $3bn, including tanks, anti-aircraft systems and ammunition, the government announced ahead of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s arrival in Berlin.
German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said on Saturday that Berlin wanted to show, with its latest military aid package worth 2.7bn euros ($2.95bn), “that Germany is serious in its support” for Ukraine.
“Germany will provide all the help it can, as long as it takes,” he said.
Though initially slow to provide military aid to Kyiv, Germany has since become one of the biggest suppliers of arms to Ukraine, crucially giving the green light for the delivery of modern battle tanks in the form of its own Leopard 1 and 2 models, along with sophisticated anti-aircraft systems needed to fend off drone and missile attacks.
The new military aid package, first reported by German weekly Der Spiegel, includes 30 Leopard 1 A5 tanks, 20 Marder armoured personnel carriers, more than 100 combat vehicles, 18 self-propelled Howitzers, 200 reconnaissance drones, four IRIS-T SLM anti-aircraft systems and other air defence equipment.
Germany’s support comes as Ukrainian military commanders say their troops have recaptured significant territory from Russian forces near the destroyed eastern city of Bakhmut, which has become the symbolic epicentre of the struggle between Kyiv and Moscow where their forces have fought for months in bloody urban warfare.
Zelenskyy confirmed his arrival in Germany early on Sunday — his first visit since Russia launched its invasion last year — in a tweet.
“Already in Berlin,” Zelenskyy wrote in a tweet. “Weapons. Powerful package. Air defense. Reconstruction. EU. NATO. Security.”
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...95bn-military-aid-to-kyiv-zelenskyy-in-berlin
New military aid includes 30 Leopard 1 A5 tanks, 20 Marder armoured personnel carriers, and 200 reconnaissance drones.
Germany will provide Ukraine with additional military aid worth almost $3bn, including tanks, anti-aircraft systems and ammunition, the government announced ahead of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s arrival in Berlin.
German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said on Saturday that Berlin wanted to show, with its latest military aid package worth 2.7bn euros ($2.95bn), “that Germany is serious in its support” for Ukraine.
“Germany will provide all the help it can, as long as it takes,” he said.
Though initially slow to provide military aid to Kyiv, Germany has since become one of the biggest suppliers of arms to Ukraine, crucially giving the green light for the delivery of modern battle tanks in the form of its own Leopard 1 and 2 models, along with sophisticated anti-aircraft systems needed to fend off drone and missile attacks.
The new military aid package, first reported by German weekly Der Spiegel, includes 30 Leopard 1 A5 tanks, 20 Marder armoured personnel carriers, more than 100 combat vehicles, 18 self-propelled Howitzers, 200 reconnaissance drones, four IRIS-T SLM anti-aircraft systems and other air defence equipment.
Germany’s support comes as Ukrainian military commanders say their troops have recaptured significant territory from Russian forces near the destroyed eastern city of Bakhmut, which has become the symbolic epicentre of the struggle between Kyiv and Moscow where their forces have fought for months in bloody urban warfare.
Zelenskyy confirmed his arrival in Germany early on Sunday — his first visit since Russia launched its invasion last year — in a tweet.
“Already in Berlin,” Zelenskyy wrote in a tweet. “Weapons. Powerful package. Air defense. Reconstruction. EU. NATO. Security.”
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...95bn-military-aid-to-kyiv-zelenskyy-in-berlin
Forget russian missiles
Ukraine is now striking on russian soil itself using storm shadow missiles.
They have also taken out 2 helicopters alongside su34 and su35 aircraft in russian airspace .
Russian aircraft are not even safe in their own airspace.
Meanwhile an attempt to destroy the patriot system resulted in their own hypersonic missile being shot down
Face it russia is technologically inferior and are totally on the backfoot .
They will have no choice eventually but to cut their losses and flee from ukraine
It's inevitable .
They underestimated western resolve who are willing to pour and continously pour billions for Ukraine to maul russia
The west is In the driving seat russia is being mauled and they are using their cousins the ukranians as expendable cannon fodder without losing their own troops in the process.
And the end of it you will have a russia that has been economically and military damaged and will take years to recover.
You really are incapable of understanding what this whole situation is about. Here is some simple advice, when the Russian administration speaks listen.
They said this was about de-militarising and de-nazifying Ukraine. They did not say it was about conquering Ukraine. Soon after the SMO, they realised negotiations weren't going to happen after Boris Johnson blocked the Ukranians in Istanbul. So the Russians changed their entire approach.
They mobilised, they entered a near war time footing and with General Aramgeddon they decided it was better to form defensive lines and let the Ukranians bleed themselves than to attack - this is part of how they won in WW2.
The Russians are prepared to retreat and give up territory to save lives, this has been a consistent strategy from them all along. In fields you are sitting ducks, so retreats in rural areas will be bigger than in urban areas where you have cover.
Bakhmut has been a meat grinder for the Ukranians - but of course since all MSM is singing the same tune - they won't tell you about this. But the leaked Pentagon Papers which Washington still hasn't denied the authenticity of, tell the truth. Ukraine is suffering 7:1 losses. Ukraine's air defences are severely degraded.
By the way - the Russians gave up a few fields in the Bakhmut, not the urban districts. They did this because just like in WW2, they know it's easier to defend and attack later.
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Ukraine war latest: Zelenskyy making 'surprise' UK trip; two Russian commanders confirmed dead; China embarks on 'peace mission'
Two Russian commanders have been killed in eastern Ukraine, while Volodymyr Zelenskyy has visited Paris during a whistle-stop tour of Europe.
Two Russian military commanders have been killed in eastern Ukraine, Russia's defence ministry has confirmed.
Commander Vyacheslav Makarov of the 4th Motorized Rifle Brigade and Deputy Commander Yevgeny Brovko from a separate unit were killed trying to repel Ukrainian attacks in the embattled city of Bakhmut, the ministry said.
It said that Makarov had been leading troops from the frontline, and that Brovko "died heroically, suffering multiple shrapnel wounds".
The defence ministry rarely announces the deaths of military command in its daily briefings.
It also said Ukrainian forces carried out attacks in the north and south of Bakhmut over the past 24 hours, but that they had not broken through Russian defences.
"All attacks by units of Ukraine's armed forces have been repelled," it said.
Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the Wagner Group which has spearheaded much of the Russian advance on Bakhmut, said his forces had advanced up to 130 metres (400 feet) over the past 24 hours.
In an audio statement on Telegram, Prigozhin said his forces controlled 28 multi-story buildings in western districts of Bakhmut where Ukrainian troops were still operating.
Ukrainian forces, he said, were holding 20 buildings and a total area of 1.69 square km (0.65 square miles).
Russia's account has not been independently verified.
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Two Russian commanders have been killed in eastern Ukraine, while Volodymyr Zelenskyy has visited Paris during a whistle-stop tour of Europe.
Two Russian military commanders have been killed in eastern Ukraine, Russia's defence ministry has confirmed.
Commander Vyacheslav Makarov of the 4th Motorized Rifle Brigade and Deputy Commander Yevgeny Brovko from a separate unit were killed trying to repel Ukrainian attacks in the embattled city of Bakhmut, the ministry said.
It said that Makarov had been leading troops from the frontline, and that Brovko "died heroically, suffering multiple shrapnel wounds".
The defence ministry rarely announces the deaths of military command in its daily briefings.
It also said Ukrainian forces carried out attacks in the north and south of Bakhmut over the past 24 hours, but that they had not broken through Russian defences.
"All attacks by units of Ukraine's armed forces have been repelled," it said.
Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the Wagner Group which has spearheaded much of the Russian advance on Bakhmut, said his forces had advanced up to 130 metres (400 feet) over the past 24 hours.
In an audio statement on Telegram, Prigozhin said his forces controlled 28 multi-story buildings in western districts of Bakhmut where Ukrainian troops were still operating.
Ukrainian forces, he said, were holding 20 buildings and a total area of 1.69 square km (0.65 square miles).
Russia's account has not been independently verified.
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you keep refering to the heavily doctored Russian version of those papers, not the original version.
Demilitarize Ukraine? well.... what an absolute failure that has been!
Provide a source, any source that claims any section of the Pentagon Papers have been tampered.
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Russia on the back foot to put it mildly. Inferior technology showing its face.
All of Ukraine is getting pounded by various forms of missiles, drones and artillery but yes the Russians have inferior technology.
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Correct. . They have inferior technology
Why don't Ukraine (or the west) stop these barrages with their "superior" technology?
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To be honest, Bakhmut is taking a very long time and then you have the head of Wagner claiming Russia is running away. All does not look really good for Russia.
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The west cant be directly involved. They are only providing “ assistance”.
He also said they will retreat from bakhmut on may 10. It's all smoke and mirrors.
Of course it doesn't look good for Russia when you follow MSM. Russia don't care how long bakhmut or this war takes.
They are doing a lot more than providing assistance. They are involved in Ukraine's ISR.
But you said the Russians had inferior technology. So answer the question, why are there still so many barrages of rockets, missiles, drones, mortar and artillery? Why haven't these superior western weapons been able to prevent the attacks?
Salim said Russians have inferior technology...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigh...dictable-m-777-krab-and-m-109-howitzers-hard/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigh...dictable-m-777-krab-and-m-109-howitzers-hard/
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You guys were cheering saying Ukraine will fall in 3 to weeks. We are going to the 2nd year very soon. That’s all I will say. Now Russia might be able to defeat Ukraine. Not a big deal. Ukraine is tiny and Russia is a massive country. But it has shown that Russia and its weapons are not top notch
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S Africa army chief visits Moscow in wake of US weapons claim
Visit to Moscow follows US allegations that weapons were loaded on to a Russian ship in Cape Town in December.
The commander of South Africa’s ground forces has visited Moscow for talks with Russian counterparts just days after Washington accused South Africa of secretly providing arms to Russia.
The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) said on Monday that the meeting was “planned well in advance” as part of “a long-standing arrangement” and was a “goodwill visit” at the invitation of the Russian army.
In a statement, SANDF said it “confirms that the Chief of the SA Army, Lieutenant-General Lawrence Mbatha, is in Moscow for a bilateral between the two military establishments”.
“It must be noted that South Africa has Military to Military bilateral relations with various countries in the continent and beyond,” it said. “The SANDF receives numerous military delegations into the country and sends its own delegations to other countries to discuss matters of mutual interest.”
Russian news agencies reported earlier on Monday that Mbatha was heading a delegation that discussed “issues relating to military cooperation and interaction”. Mbatha had “visited educational institutions of the ground forces and enterprises of the military-industrial complex” of Russia, the agencies said.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...ief-visits-moscow-in-wake-of-us-weapons-claim
Visit to Moscow follows US allegations that weapons were loaded on to a Russian ship in Cape Town in December.
The commander of South Africa’s ground forces has visited Moscow for talks with Russian counterparts just days after Washington accused South Africa of secretly providing arms to Russia.
The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) said on Monday that the meeting was “planned well in advance” as part of “a long-standing arrangement” and was a “goodwill visit” at the invitation of the Russian army.
In a statement, SANDF said it “confirms that the Chief of the SA Army, Lieutenant-General Lawrence Mbatha, is in Moscow for a bilateral between the two military establishments”.
“It must be noted that South Africa has Military to Military bilateral relations with various countries in the continent and beyond,” it said. “The SANDF receives numerous military delegations into the country and sends its own delegations to other countries to discuss matters of mutual interest.”
Russian news agencies reported earlier on Monday that Mbatha was heading a delegation that discussed “issues relating to military cooperation and interaction”. Mbatha had “visited educational institutions of the ground forces and enterprises of the military-industrial complex” of Russia, the agencies said.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...ief-visits-moscow-in-wake-of-us-weapons-claim
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The same argument can be made about many western weapons too. Its a war. Many of these weapons haven't been used before. The Himars was touted as a game changer but it hasn't really changed much. We heard patriots were knocking down Kinzals but kyiv just got bombarded again. We have heard rhe leopard will go all the way to Moscow. It hasn't got beyond the dnipro.
Let's be realistic here. Bakhmut is a meat grinder. Ukrops should have retreated weeks ago. They have lost thousands of their troops while Russia sends over its penal force. There by some estimates nearly 700k Russia troops ready to rotate and continue this war. Ukrops are running out of men. That's why zelensky looks like he's on coke these days.
As for the few weeks ton end the war at the start. Well it nearly happened but Boris scuppered the talks. And here we are...Russia is not backing down..it will go to great lengths and years if it has to to prevent what it sees as a staging post on its soft under belly.
You didn't answer the question about inferior/superior technology?
Not a single person in the Kremlin or Russian MoD put any time lines together. It was all the MSM.
The Americans took 20 years in Afghanistan against farmers with not even AK47s and ran away humiliated achieving absolutely nothing. The taliban were in charge before and the after the US invasion. Is that what your superior weapons achieve?
Ukraine geographically or militarily is anything but tiny. They are the size of teas, massive. They had army with reserves and border offices of 600k, that's the largest in Europe. They have been armed to the teeth by the west. This is no David vs Goliath war if that's what you think.
This was a SMO the Russians only committed 200k troops initially. When negotiations fell apart in Istanbul April 2022 because of the west. Things changed and now we are seeing the next phase.
The Russians aren't in any hurry. The Russians are winning and easily. You just keep watching because your superior weapons and ISR are not going to make a dent.
Every SINGLE missile was intercepted by the Patriots last night... EVERY one of them. Including multiple 'hypersonic' ones.
Thats twice now Russia has attempted to destroy Patriot system with their make believe wonder weapon... each time their wonder weapon has been destroyed by a system Putin said was old and obsolete.
NATO must be laughing... even the French are losing their fear now
It's gone from 'Kyiv will fall in 72 hours'... 'It will be over in a week'.... 'It will be done in 3 weeks'
All because Russia was a FAR superior army. To now... 'Ukraine had the best and biggest army in Europe' and Russia's in 'no rush'
Delusional, propoganda Rubbish
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Your vaunted patriot missile system got taken down last night..it ran out of missiles as it got swarmed by drones and missiles..then it got taken out..this has been theorised for years but we are now seeing the practical application of these theories
The Ukranians claim that they shot down 6 Kinzhal missiles overnight in Kyiv. The funny thing is - the Russians said they only launched 1. Seems like the Patriot system malfunctioned and started firing missiles in sequence. Never see successful AD systems firing sequentially like that.
Every single.. blah blah blah.
You're almost as ridiculous as MSM who claim Ukraine are winning despite their most resource rich territory being in Russian hands and the Russians holding referendums in Ukraine.
By the way Wagner were suppsed to retreat from Bakhmut city 6 days ago according to you, how is that going? Will you admit you were wrong and you lied?
You said they were running out of missiles in June last year, so what were the Patriot systems shooting at if not Russian missiles? Are you prepared to admit you were wrong and you lied about this topic too?
What's even more hilarious is you being incapable of saying hey I was wrong.
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Bro there is video evidence of the patriot battery being taken out. Ukrops can claim whatever they want. Their air defence is being dismantled systematically.
As for the HIMARS we are hearing a reduction in action via HIMARS. Now this could be to conserve ammunition or as some Russian analysts have claimed they have largely been neutralised through ECM.
Either way you have to understand one important thing about this war that all of us failed to see initially because of things like Georgia etc. This war is about the degradation of the Ukrainian military not about territory..e.g Bakhmut..its a giant meat grinder and a trap that ukrops fell into..wagner are hours away from taking this place. A massive symbolic defeat of the ukrops strategy. Now they will be doing the same in other areas..hauling themselves towards well prepared defences and not one meat grinder but multiple meat grinders. Ukrops need to pull back and create a stalemate for negotiations.
At the moment they are getting pounded for no gain..
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I have seen the video. It's firing a volley of missiles..then runs out..then suddenly gets taken out..
So Russia has used 18 missiles, 6 of which were they 'mythical' hypersonic one to destroy 1 Patriot system that has been in service since 1981 and is easily replaceable for Ukraine.
Another outstanding success for the Russian armed forces.
The contradiction from Pro Ukrainians is limitless. You guys keep telling us Russia is using outdated technology but then celebrate when the west provides even older equipment.
Using 6 kinzhal missiles to take out a patriot system? Are you high?
Videos are showing up now highlighting at least 2 successful hits. There are probably many more but Ukraine have tight control over what is shown and what isn't.
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No. The more likely strategy would be cheaper missiles and drones first then a Kinzal. Looks like that's what happened.
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Ukraine claims to have shot down a volley of Russian hypersonic missiles – one of Moscow‘s most potent weapons – during an attack on the capital Kyiv described as “exceptional in density”.
It is the first time Ukraine has claimed to have struck down multiple Kinzhal – which means “dagger” in Russian – missiles in one go. If confirmed it would be a demonstration of the effectiveness of Kyiv’s newly deployed Western air defences in helping thwart some of Russia’s most advanced weaponry. President Vladimir Putin has previously claimed that the Kinzhal would be able to “overcome all existing and ... prospective anti-aircraft and anti-missile defence systems”.
Officials claimed to have intercepted all six of the Kinzhal fired at it, as part of a volley of 18 missiles launched by Moscow’s forces in the early hours of Tuesday morning. Video footage showed air defences destroying targets over the capital, with the barrage also including cruise missiles and kamikaze drones.
The overnight attack on Kyiv was “exceptional in its density – the maximum number of attacking missiles in the shortest period of time”, said Serhii Popko, the head of the Kyiv military administration. Kyiv authorities said three people were wounded by falling debris.
“Another unbelievable success for the Ukrainian air forces!” Oleksii Reznikov, the defence minister, said on Twitter.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...p&cvid=317bd0f1256e43bcbf3f0c0322a3cfbc&ei=15
It is the first time Ukraine has claimed to have struck down multiple Kinzhal – which means “dagger” in Russian – missiles in one go. If confirmed it would be a demonstration of the effectiveness of Kyiv’s newly deployed Western air defences in helping thwart some of Russia’s most advanced weaponry. President Vladimir Putin has previously claimed that the Kinzhal would be able to “overcome all existing and ... prospective anti-aircraft and anti-missile defence systems”.
Officials claimed to have intercepted all six of the Kinzhal fired at it, as part of a volley of 18 missiles launched by Moscow’s forces in the early hours of Tuesday morning. Video footage showed air defences destroying targets over the capital, with the barrage also including cruise missiles and kamikaze drones.
The overnight attack on Kyiv was “exceptional in its density – the maximum number of attacking missiles in the shortest period of time”, said Serhii Popko, the head of the Kyiv military administration. Kyiv authorities said three people were wounded by falling debris.
“Another unbelievable success for the Ukrainian air forces!” Oleksii Reznikov, the defence minister, said on Twitter.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...p&cvid=317bd0f1256e43bcbf3f0c0322a3cfbc&ei=15
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it is a sheer testament to how incredible the patriot missile defense system is. it proved itself during the gulf war when it rendered most of sadam's arsenal of scud missiles ineffective, and it has only improved ever since. what i find incredible about it, is that phased array radar is a demonstration of how small, simple systems when working in conjunction can result in a complex profile. if you are wondering where else phased arrays are used, check your router. if it is a 802.11n or higher, it has a phased array system. most cell phone towers use that.
i am not one to boost the military industrial complex, but the patriot system (raytheon or lockhead, not sure which one made it), is probably an example of a defensive weapon that is money well spent. the F35 on the other hand, thats a whole different story.
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i dont think its been neutralized by electronic signal jamming, but its later stage guidance is being compromised. i believe counter measures are being developed, but i am sure the russians will try to find counter measures to those counter measures. nevertheless, it will make any attempt to retake crimea or eastern ukraine all the more challenging.
without significant artillery, its unlikely a campaign in the east will be successful, but the russians are demonstrating hilarious levels of incompetence. eventually we will be in the thick of the us election cycle. i worry what might happen then.
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Ukraine receives jet fighter support pledge from UK, Netherlands
UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Dutch premier Mark Rutte agreed to build an international coalition to provide Kyiv with F-16s fighter jets.
The prime ministers of the United Kingdom and the Netherlands, Rishi Sunak and Mark Rutte, have agreed to build an “international coalition” to provide fighter jet support for Ukraine, a key item of military equipment Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has long sought from Western allies supporting his country’s fight against Russian forces.
“The Prime Minister and Prime Minister Rutte agreed they would work to build (an) international coalition to provide Ukraine with combat air capabilities, supporting with everything from training to procuring F16 jets,” a spokesman for Sunak’s Downing Street office said in a statement on Tuesday following a meeting at the Council of Europe Summit in Iceland.
“The prime minister reiterated his belief that Ukraine’s rightful place is in NATO and the leaders agreed on the importance of allies providing long-term security assistance to Ukraine to guarantee they can deter against future attacks,” the spokesman said.
Most NATO members in Europe have kept open the possibility of sending their F-16s to Ukraine, even as President Joe Biden said as recently as January that the United States would not do so, Al Jazeera’s John Psaropoulos reported at the time.
According to Psaropoulos, air defence experts say US-built F-16 fighter jets would offer Ukraine an edge over the Russian air force, but only if combined with powerful missiles and targeting information, which the West would also have to provide and which would risk drawing Ukraine’s Western allies more actively into the war.
Rutte said in a tweet on Tuesday that he and Sunak had spoken about issues “we’re working on together and, of course, about our ongoing joint support for Ukraine in the face of the terrible Russian aggression”. The Dutch prime minister did not mention the provision of fighter jet support and training.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...et-fighter-support-pledge-from-uk-netherlands
UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Dutch premier Mark Rutte agreed to build an international coalition to provide Kyiv with F-16s fighter jets.
The prime ministers of the United Kingdom and the Netherlands, Rishi Sunak and Mark Rutte, have agreed to build an “international coalition” to provide fighter jet support for Ukraine, a key item of military equipment Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has long sought from Western allies supporting his country’s fight against Russian forces.
“The Prime Minister and Prime Minister Rutte agreed they would work to build (an) international coalition to provide Ukraine with combat air capabilities, supporting with everything from training to procuring F16 jets,” a spokesman for Sunak’s Downing Street office said in a statement on Tuesday following a meeting at the Council of Europe Summit in Iceland.
“The prime minister reiterated his belief that Ukraine’s rightful place is in NATO and the leaders agreed on the importance of allies providing long-term security assistance to Ukraine to guarantee they can deter against future attacks,” the spokesman said.
Most NATO members in Europe have kept open the possibility of sending their F-16s to Ukraine, even as President Joe Biden said as recently as January that the United States would not do so, Al Jazeera’s John Psaropoulos reported at the time.
According to Psaropoulos, air defence experts say US-built F-16 fighter jets would offer Ukraine an edge over the Russian air force, but only if combined with powerful missiles and targeting information, which the West would also have to provide and which would risk drawing Ukraine’s Western allies more actively into the war.
Rutte said in a tweet on Tuesday that he and Sunak had spoken about issues “we’re working on together and, of course, about our ongoing joint support for Ukraine in the face of the terrible Russian aggression”. The Dutch prime minister did not mention the provision of fighter jet support and training.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...et-fighter-support-pledge-from-uk-netherlands
Looks like a launcher was damaged at most
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Yes evidently one of the battery components which is deemed critical. Will require repairs and thus will be out of commission in the interim.
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I will have to check. Either way it's out of commission for the time being.
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Yes I think the Russians really have shown some major incompetence in areas you wouldn't really have expected. I'm still flabbergasted how they are using their airforce. I get ukrops have a pretty dense anti aircraft defence and it has been challenging but still..
You are right about the offensive on crimea. I can't see that succeeding. I would be so bold and say there won't be a counter offensive anytime soon.the best bet for ukrops is to defend and then bide their time..but the yanks are pressurising them due to the elections..knowing the yanks track record I suspect they will abandon this war at some point..
The US just confirmed damage is minimal and it still works after they inspected it today.
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The followers of mainstream media think its the bible, their Gods views.
The reality is very much different.
Russia has obliterated the warehouse holding the depleted uriniam shells given by the UK, the place went up like a nuclear bomb. Ukranians in this area will suffer from radiation whether in the air of in their soil.
Russian hypersonic missiles cannot be shot down by Patriots. Although Russia has shot down the £2 million each UK missiles, with only a couple getting through hitting buildings and killing a few Russians.
The so called spring offensive will not take place in spring. Ukraine has more chance of winning the football World Cup. Its over.
The reality is very much different.
Russia has obliterated the warehouse holding the depleted uriniam shells given by the UK, the place went up like a nuclear bomb. Ukranians in this area will suffer from radiation whether in the air of in their soil.
Russian hypersonic missiles cannot be shot down by Patriots. Although Russia has shot down the £2 million each UK missiles, with only a couple getting through hitting buildings and killing a few Russians.
The so called spring offensive will not take place in spring. Ukraine has more chance of winning the football World Cup. Its over.
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Mr Leigh this is nearly as bad as the 150 missiles left.
Patriots cannot shoot down hypersonic missiles, they were designed and produced before such missiles came into play. MSM and Ukraine are making fools out of their supporters, please dont fall for it.
Did you not see the video of the British made depleted uranium shells going up in smoke? Ukrainians sent in robots to extinguish the remains.
What about your claims of Russia running out of missiles?
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...et-fighter-support-pledge-from-uk-netherlands
After the depleted uranium ammunitions destroyed, most of the storm shadow missiles destroyed or shot down , now Sunak the clown wants to hand over F16s lol.
If an F16 travels towards Moscow or God forbid hits some military inside main Russia, the consequences could be a disaster for the west.
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Russian has burnt through it's best men and equipment.
Unfortunately they keep falling for the same Ukrainian traps. The Russian military has been proven a failure on every level. Russia only has nukes left as otherwise the world knows it's military is toothless and a disorganised shambles.
Unfortunately they keep falling for the same Ukrainian traps. The Russian military has been proven a failure on every level. Russia only has nukes left as otherwise the world knows it's military is toothless and a disorganised shambles.
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The Russian troops have hardly been involved. Most of the fighting has been done by Wagner, Chechens and local Donbass militias. Russia can in a week send in 500,000 troops and turn Ukraine into dust. As for Nukes, they are part of the weaponry, of course Russia can use those if needed and will before any taking of Crimea.
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i have pointed this out to you before, and its pitiful that the moderators are not remarking on this. the term ukrops is a derogatory slang, much like the n word or even p*ki. i find that you are one of the few folks who is reasonably able to present someone to discuss with who is dialed into the russian narrative and thus, in order for us to continue exchange, i implore you to abstain from using derogatory terms. i dont use any derogatory terms for russians and dont intend to anytime in the future, and thus, i ask you to demonstrate the same civility.
Guys we have another MSM follower.
MSM is doing a terrific job lying to the public. Mind you its not difficult when the majority of the public swallow the propaganda up like they would a plate of chicken biryani.
Manned aircraft are a huge liability given modern AD. The F16s are just the latest in a desperate attempt to keep the Ukrainians going.
The Ukrainians would be much better off with hundreds of IFVS and Artillery pieces than F16s or other jets.
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Ukraine tells China envoy peace plan must not lose land to Russia
Ukraine’s foreign minister told China’s envoy that Kyiv would not accept any peace proposal that involved a loss of territory to Russia or that would freeze the conflict.
Ukraine’s foreign minister told a top Chinese envoy that Kyiv would not accept any proposals to end the war with Russia that involved Ukraine losing territory or the placing of the conflict on hold, the Ukrainian foreign ministry said.
Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba made the remarks during a meeting in Kyiv with Li Hui, who is China’s special representative for Eurasian affairs and former ambassador to Russia.
Kuleba discussed with Li “ways to stop Russian aggression”, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Wednesday.
In his meeting, Kuleba “emphasised that Ukraine does not accept any proposals that would involve the loss of its territories or the freezing of the conflict”.
Restoring a “just peace” in Ukraine depended on “respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine”, Kuleba said, according to the statement.
Li was in Kyiv on Tuesday and Wednesday seeking to promote Beijing-led negotiations to resolve the conflict.
China’s foreign ministry issued a statement on Thursday in which it said that Li told Ukraine that there is no quick fix to end the crisis.
“There is no panacea to resolve the crisis, and all parties need to start from themselves, build mutual trust and create conditions to stop the war and talk,” Li said, according to the statement.
“China has always played a constructive role in alleviating the humanitarian situation in Ukraine in its own way and will continue to provide assistance to Ukraine within its capacity,” the statement added.
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Ukraine’s foreign minister told China’s envoy that Kyiv would not accept any peace proposal that involved a loss of territory to Russia or that would freeze the conflict.
Ukraine’s foreign minister told a top Chinese envoy that Kyiv would not accept any proposals to end the war with Russia that involved Ukraine losing territory or the placing of the conflict on hold, the Ukrainian foreign ministry said.
Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba made the remarks during a meeting in Kyiv with Li Hui, who is China’s special representative for Eurasian affairs and former ambassador to Russia.
Kuleba discussed with Li “ways to stop Russian aggression”, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Wednesday.
In his meeting, Kuleba “emphasised that Ukraine does not accept any proposals that would involve the loss of its territories or the freezing of the conflict”.
Restoring a “just peace” in Ukraine depended on “respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine”, Kuleba said, according to the statement.
Li was in Kyiv on Tuesday and Wednesday seeking to promote Beijing-led negotiations to resolve the conflict.
China’s foreign ministry issued a statement on Thursday in which it said that Li told Ukraine that there is no quick fix to end the crisis.
“There is no panacea to resolve the crisis, and all parties need to start from themselves, build mutual trust and create conditions to stop the war and talk,” Li said, according to the statement.
“China has always played a constructive role in alleviating the humanitarian situation in Ukraine in its own way and will continue to provide assistance to Ukraine within its capacity,” the statement added.
Al-Jazeera
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Glad that President Biden has committed to do whatever it takes to help Ukraine fight Russia.
This is probably the best return on investment that US has ever made. Throw a few billion dollars at Ukraine to destroy Russia with zero casualties and damages for America.
This is probably the best return on investment that US has ever made. Throw a few billion dollars at Ukraine to destroy Russia with zero casualties and damages for America.
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How is it a best investment? How is it any investment except for checking war time readiness of American weaponry?
I obviously think Russia is the aggressor but this war is insane.
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Please. You do realise how desperate Putin is. The longer the war lasts greater the risk for Putin. Please read up on the divisions used by Russia early on. They form the elite of their forces.
Also the soldiers sold their own equipment and vehicles which shows the state of the army.
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What divisions? Putin is the most popular Russian leader in modern history.
Which soldiers? Please provide evidence or a link?
The longer the war continues , the stronger Russia is becoming both in geo-political terms and in armed forces strength.
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Ah my apologies. I thought it meant Ukrainian operatives. I will use a different term..
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G7 leaders prepare new Russia sanctions as Zelenskiy to attend Japan summit in person
Ukraine’s president will attend Hiroshima meeting on Sunday as leaders prepare to target exports to Russia
The G7 group of major economies will unveil further sanctions and export controls targeting Russia over its war against Ukraine, as it was announced that the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, would attend the Hiroshima summit in person.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine, now in its second year, will be high on the agenda as G7 leaders gathered in Hiroshima on Friday. The US has spearheaded tough sanctions on Russian companies, banks and individuals; the forthcoming announcements are designed to reaffirm world powers’ resolve to support Ukraine and squeeze Moscow.
A US official, speaking to reporters ahead of the gathering, said the G7’s latest efforts were aimed at disrupting Russia’s ability to get materials it needs for the battlefield, close loopholes used to evade sanctions, further reduce international reliance on Russian energy, and narrow Moscow’s access to the international financial system.
“Our commitment to continue tightening the screws on Russia remains as strong as it was last year,” a US official said.
Zelenskiy will arrive in Japan for the summit on Sunday, according to a top Ukrainian official.
“Very important things will be decided there and therefore the presence of our president … is absolutely essential in order to defend our interests,” Oleksiy Danilov, secretary of the National Security and Defence Council, told state television.
Japanese media said that the leaders’ communique was expected to include a call for countries to stop providing weapons to Russia to prosecute its war in Ukraine.
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Ukraine’s president will attend Hiroshima meeting on Sunday as leaders prepare to target exports to Russia
The G7 group of major economies will unveil further sanctions and export controls targeting Russia over its war against Ukraine, as it was announced that the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, would attend the Hiroshima summit in person.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine, now in its second year, will be high on the agenda as G7 leaders gathered in Hiroshima on Friday. The US has spearheaded tough sanctions on Russian companies, banks and individuals; the forthcoming announcements are designed to reaffirm world powers’ resolve to support Ukraine and squeeze Moscow.
A US official, speaking to reporters ahead of the gathering, said the G7’s latest efforts were aimed at disrupting Russia’s ability to get materials it needs for the battlefield, close loopholes used to evade sanctions, further reduce international reliance on Russian energy, and narrow Moscow’s access to the international financial system.
“Our commitment to continue tightening the screws on Russia remains as strong as it was last year,” a US official said.
Zelenskiy will arrive in Japan for the summit on Sunday, according to a top Ukrainian official.
“Very important things will be decided there and therefore the presence of our president … is absolutely essential in order to defend our interests,” Oleksiy Danilov, secretary of the National Security and Defence Council, told state television.
Japanese media said that the leaders’ communique was expected to include a call for countries to stop providing weapons to Russia to prosecute its war in Ukraine.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ssian-exports-in-latest-ukraine-war-sanctions
It's no longer surprising when someone types this kind of stuff.
The Russians are not desperate. Do you see Putin or Lavrov flying around country to country begging for more weapons and ammunition? No.
Putin was at an approval rating of 53% before the SMO now it's close to 80%. This is what war does especially if you are winning.
If Russia are losing why is the west scrambling around to find any last leftovers they can to hand over to Zelensky who is on his nth tour pleading for support?
As for the Russians, they had 200k soldiers committed at the start, 100k were Chechens, Wagner, DPR and LNR. It's only now that they have a large mobilised force available. With training complete in January for most of them, with the weather warming and with Ukraine running out of AD. The only question is how and when these forces will enter the field. One thing is for sure the Russians are in no hurry.
Yesterday I think the EU was planning their 12th wave of sanctions. That's where this war is really being won/lost. The rest of the world is moving away from the petrodollar and the sanctions have spectacularly backfired.
Biden is perhaps going to be remembered as the president who brought the end up US hegemony.
With this war, the sanctions, the world moving away from trade in dollar we enter a new multipolar world. Great investment!
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THanks.
A mishmash of events from the start of the war.
This journalist was a good propagandist of the Iraq war, this should explain his rubbish here. But he also supported the view Ukraine managed to shoot down the hyper sonic missiles with the Patriot system.
Russia have obliterated many of the recent weapons received by their masters in the west. Bakhmut has been used to take out thousands of Ukrainian troops. Russia will then move towards Odessa.
Russia cannot lose this war, its simply not possible, the quicker people accept this the less they will look silly later on.
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Inc wiping out thousands who come from Nato nations.
If Ukranian was winning , why would Zelensky go begging to the Arab league for help now? The comedian made big claims about Iraq, Syria, Yemen not remembering its his masters who destroyed the nation.
Zelensky has been told he has 5 months to rally more people to fight to death. When the US elections take place even Biden will distance himself as his failure against Russia will only cost him more votes.
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The US says it will support providing advanced fighter jets including US-made F-16s to Ukraine and also back training Ukrainian pilots to fly them.
A senior White House official said President Biden had told G7 leaders in Japan of the decision.
President Volodomyr Zelensky, who has requested fighter jets for months, said the decision would "greatly enhance our army in the sky".
US approval for the scheme means other nations can export their F-16s.
This is because the US legally has to approve the re-export of equipment purchased by allies.
The US would "support a joint effort with our allies and partners to train Ukrainian pilots on fourth-generation fighter aircraft, including F-16s, to further strengthen and improve the capabilities of the Ukrainian Air Force", the official said.
"As the training takes place over the coming months, our coalition of countries participating in this effort will decide when to actually provide jets, how many we will provide, and who will provide them."
Ukraine has repeatedly lobbied its Western allies to provide jets to help in its fight against Russia and Mr Zelensky welcomed what he described as a "historic decision", adding that he looked forward to "discussing the practical implementation" of the plan at the G7 summit in Hiroshima, where he is expected to appear.
"This will greatly enhance our army in the sky," he tweeted.
The US had been sceptical about providing Ukraine with modern fighter jets - at least in the near term. Its focus has instead been on providing military support on land.
Senior US military officials who've spoken to the BBC in the past have questioned whether Western-supplied fighter jets will dramatically alter the conflict, with Russia's large air force still struggling to gain air superiority and the high density of air defence systems on the ground.
So this change in US policy is significant. However, training pilots to fly F-16 jets will take time. Ukraine does have more trained fighter pilots than aircraft at present. But even training experienced fighter pilots on a new plane could take up to four months for an already experienced pilot.
And then nations will need to agree to supply the jets. The F-16 is widely used by a number of European and Middle East nations as well as the US, which still manufactures the aircraft. Who is willing to supply the jets is the next key question.
The UK, Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark also welcomed the US move.
UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak tweeted: "The UK will work together with the USA and the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark to get Ukraine the combat air capability it needs."
Denmark has announced it too will now be able to support the training of pilots, but did not confirm whether it would send any jets to Ukraine. Denmark's air force has 40 F-16s, around 30 of which are operational.
Earlier this week, Mr Sunak and Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said they would build an "international coalition" to provide fighter jet support for Ukraine.
Mr Sunak said the UK would set up a flight school to train Ukrainian pilots. French leader Emmanuel Macron said his country was willing to do the same but would not provide jets.
Some of the opposition to sending the jets has centred around maintenance issues, with former Nato official Dr Jamie Shea saying they require extensive maintenance after almost every fight.
Some Nato member countries have also expressed their worries that handing jets to Ukraine would be viewed as escalating the war, risking a direct confrontation with Russia.
At the start of Russia's full-scale invasion, Ukraine was believed to have around 120 combat capable aircraft - mainly consisting of aging Soviet-era MiG-29s and Su-27s.
But officials say they need up to 200 jets to match Moscow's air-power - which is thought to be five or six times greater than Kyiv's.
Mr Zelensky has primarily been asking its allies for F-16s. First built in the 1970s, the jet can travel at twice the speed of sound and can engage targets in the air or on the ground.
While now eclipsed by the more modern F-35, it remains widely in use. Experts say modern fighters like the F-16 would help Ukraine strike behind Russian lines.
Earlier this year some Eastern European countries sent Soviet-era Mig fighter jets to Ukraine.
BBC
A senior White House official said President Biden had told G7 leaders in Japan of the decision.
President Volodomyr Zelensky, who has requested fighter jets for months, said the decision would "greatly enhance our army in the sky".
US approval for the scheme means other nations can export their F-16s.
This is because the US legally has to approve the re-export of equipment purchased by allies.
The US would "support a joint effort with our allies and partners to train Ukrainian pilots on fourth-generation fighter aircraft, including F-16s, to further strengthen and improve the capabilities of the Ukrainian Air Force", the official said.
"As the training takes place over the coming months, our coalition of countries participating in this effort will decide when to actually provide jets, how many we will provide, and who will provide them."
Ukraine has repeatedly lobbied its Western allies to provide jets to help in its fight against Russia and Mr Zelensky welcomed what he described as a "historic decision", adding that he looked forward to "discussing the practical implementation" of the plan at the G7 summit in Hiroshima, where he is expected to appear.
"This will greatly enhance our army in the sky," he tweeted.
The US had been sceptical about providing Ukraine with modern fighter jets - at least in the near term. Its focus has instead been on providing military support on land.
Senior US military officials who've spoken to the BBC in the past have questioned whether Western-supplied fighter jets will dramatically alter the conflict, with Russia's large air force still struggling to gain air superiority and the high density of air defence systems on the ground.
So this change in US policy is significant. However, training pilots to fly F-16 jets will take time. Ukraine does have more trained fighter pilots than aircraft at present. But even training experienced fighter pilots on a new plane could take up to four months for an already experienced pilot.
And then nations will need to agree to supply the jets. The F-16 is widely used by a number of European and Middle East nations as well as the US, which still manufactures the aircraft. Who is willing to supply the jets is the next key question.
The UK, Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark also welcomed the US move.
UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak tweeted: "The UK will work together with the USA and the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark to get Ukraine the combat air capability it needs."
Denmark has announced it too will now be able to support the training of pilots, but did not confirm whether it would send any jets to Ukraine. Denmark's air force has 40 F-16s, around 30 of which are operational.
Earlier this week, Mr Sunak and Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said they would build an "international coalition" to provide fighter jet support for Ukraine.
Mr Sunak said the UK would set up a flight school to train Ukrainian pilots. French leader Emmanuel Macron said his country was willing to do the same but would not provide jets.
Some of the opposition to sending the jets has centred around maintenance issues, with former Nato official Dr Jamie Shea saying they require extensive maintenance after almost every fight.
Some Nato member countries have also expressed their worries that handing jets to Ukraine would be viewed as escalating the war, risking a direct confrontation with Russia.
At the start of Russia's full-scale invasion, Ukraine was believed to have around 120 combat capable aircraft - mainly consisting of aging Soviet-era MiG-29s and Su-27s.
But officials say they need up to 200 jets to match Moscow's air-power - which is thought to be five or six times greater than Kyiv's.
Mr Zelensky has primarily been asking its allies for F-16s. First built in the 1970s, the jet can travel at twice the speed of sound and can engage targets in the air or on the ground.
While now eclipsed by the more modern F-35, it remains widely in use. Experts say modern fighters like the F-16 would help Ukraine strike behind Russian lines.
Earlier this year some Eastern European countries sent Soviet-era Mig fighter jets to Ukraine.
BBC
F solas are coming
Pakistan used them with great effect against russians in Afghanistan
It's an excellent fighter aircraft
Russians are retreating from bakhmut
The only ones trapped in the centre are the mercanaries wagner led by the lunatic whose having a mental breakdown and is probably paranoid to such an extent he probably thinks he will be killed by the FSB.
It was but now it's outdated. It doesn't have any stealth technologies and like most of the other stuff sent will make no difference.
Nonsense. The only such retreat is in the AFUs dreams.
Stop relying on the BBC and SKY news, they have lied to you from day one.
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Ukraine war: US to support providing F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine
The US says it will allow its Western allies to supply Ukraine with advanced fighter jets, including American-made F-16s, in a major boost for Kyiv.
National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said President Joe Biden "informed his G7 counterparts" of the decision at the bloc's summit in Japan on Friday.
US troops will also train Kyiv's pilots to use the jets, Mr Sullivan said.
Ukraine has long sought advanced jets and President Volodymyr Zelensky hailed the move as a "historic decision".
The US legally has to approve the re-export of equipment purchased by allies and the move will clear the way for other nations to send their existing stocks of F-16s to Ukraine.
"Over the past few months, we and our allies and partners have really focussed on providing Ukraine with the systems weapon and training it needs to conduct offensive operations this spring and summer," Mr Sullivan told reporters in Hiroshima. "We have delivered what we promised."
"Now we have turned to discussions about improving the Ukrainian air force as part of our long-term commitment to Ukraine's self-defence. As the training unfolds in the coming months, we will work with our allies to determine when planes will be delivered, who will be delivering them, and how many."
Ukraine has repeatedly lobbied its Western allies to provide jets to help in its fight against Russia. Ahead of Saturday's official announcement, President Zelensky said the jets would "greatly enhance our army in the sky", adding that he looked forward to "discussing the practical implementation" of the plan at the G7 summit in Hiroshima, where he will arrive on Sunday.
The US had been sceptical about providing Ukraine with modern fighter jets - at least in the near term. Its focus has instead been on providing military support on land.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65649471
The US says it will allow its Western allies to supply Ukraine with advanced fighter jets, including American-made F-16s, in a major boost for Kyiv.
National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said President Joe Biden "informed his G7 counterparts" of the decision at the bloc's summit in Japan on Friday.
US troops will also train Kyiv's pilots to use the jets, Mr Sullivan said.
Ukraine has long sought advanced jets and President Volodymyr Zelensky hailed the move as a "historic decision".
The US legally has to approve the re-export of equipment purchased by allies and the move will clear the way for other nations to send their existing stocks of F-16s to Ukraine.
"Over the past few months, we and our allies and partners have really focussed on providing Ukraine with the systems weapon and training it needs to conduct offensive operations this spring and summer," Mr Sullivan told reporters in Hiroshima. "We have delivered what we promised."
"Now we have turned to discussions about improving the Ukrainian air force as part of our long-term commitment to Ukraine's self-defence. As the training unfolds in the coming months, we will work with our allies to determine when planes will be delivered, who will be delivering them, and how many."
Ukraine has repeatedly lobbied its Western allies to provide jets to help in its fight against Russia. Ahead of Saturday's official announcement, President Zelensky said the jets would "greatly enhance our army in the sky", adding that he looked forward to "discussing the practical implementation" of the plan at the G7 summit in Hiroshima, where he will arrive on Sunday.
The US had been sceptical about providing Ukraine with modern fighter jets - at least in the near term. Its focus has instead been on providing military support on land.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65649471
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That was in the 1980's. We used them to good effect against hindustan too. But they were not alone. An airforce cannot function without good electronic warfare and network centricity. Also what missile and radars will these versions have.
The Russians will definitely now use their SU57 and SU35 to take them on. It took Pakistan nearly 50 years to really master the F16. And we are lucky we have confronted a bunch of clowns.
Ukraine will confront the full main Russian AF. I will be very interested to see how this confrontation works out.
As for Bakhmut. Lol. Ukraine occupy one street. It will be gone by tonight. The Russians have also flattened Adviika and now regular troops are entering the fray. Also more chechens. By the way the head of the Ukraine army is reportedly missing. Russians think they killed him in bakhmut..
Zelensky is getting desperate. 40 F16s are not enough to change the war. They will be going up against three times as many Russian aircraft and electronic jamming. NATO will have to help. This is getting ever more dangerous.
I think it's possible but just like the AFU falsely claimed Russian generals had been killed it's possible that the Russians are lying too. Zaluzhny may be staying hidden for some reason.
No it hasn't fallen yet
The Russian army is retreating from the flanks
The only ones fighting are the wagner in the city itself and led by a lunatic who is getting them all pointlessly killed for no strategic gain .
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