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shaz619 said:
Do you remember the shoot interview Punk did with Cobana, Punk basically said that Hunter was pushing for Sheamus to be on the cover, but 2k insisted on wanting Punk, WWE 13 had that arcade feel I didn’t appreciate enough at the time

Lmao they would try to recreate that with the league of nations? I loved that faction, felt it had potential, but those games were not shy to push the story line limits, screw all logic etc I mean that can be great to but you want some fun, these sims are soulless
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I saw it such a long time ago I completely forgot how much Punk shot on HHH in that interview.

Oh right they did hahah. Now that I think about it I enjoyed the SvR Road to WrestleMania story mode as well. Jack Swagger was more interesting in that game than he has ever been in his wrestling career.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Edge is in his AEW honeymoon phase right now. He's just come from WWE where they would use him for a couple of months and then send him home for another three. He just worked his dream feud with his best friend and has a level of creative freedom he has probably not always experienced in the past. So I can understand him even doing it out of his own volition.

I would be more interested to see what Edge thinks about AEW 3...6...9 months from now.
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well he's only signed a 2 year contract. I think it was a smart decision on his part. With lots of money and creative freedom. And his contract will be up pretty quickly. Compared to others who signed for AEW were on 3-4 year contracts.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Yeah that is so stupid. The idea with the Lionheart gimmick is that he's supposed to be the high workrate cruiserweight 90s version of Chris Jericho that travelled the world plying his trade. But when he comes out and you see 50+ year old Jericho with the potbelly struggling to do a moonsault and it feels like a joke.

It looks like a retired wrestler who was famous 40 years ago doing a comeback match for a small indie promotion that is just happy to see him and not all that concerned with how he looks like.

But like Punk said in his interview, this and the Painmaker gimmick is Jericho trying his hardest to appeal to the internet. The fans who have seen all his matches from CMLL, NJPW, WAR and wherever else he wrestled during the 90s. Who would immediately know the entrance music and the ring gear.

I thought it was a cute idea when he did it the first time but now its just something to laugh at.
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It's just too self obsessive IMO. Y2J has been giving me The Wrestler character of Mickey Rourke (2008 film) vibes of someone who is well past his prime and is refusing to believe that.
It's just sad that around 2017-20, he was genuinely one of the coolest wrestlers going
 
I still like Chris Jericho the performer, ignoring all else. I’ve also enjoyed 70% of his output outside the WWE and he did help put AEW on the map and had some bangers there and in Japan. He is past his peak now which is sad to see, happened to all the greats including the likes of Funk and Taker. I think he is still capable of being world class but also needs a change, but he’s in an environment which doesn’t encourage that and he is way too comfortable, Jericho I knew was always full of ideas and had something big in his back pocket. But I will always keep the fond memories of him being one of the best to ever do it.
 
shaz619 said:
I still like Chris Jericho the performer, ignoring all else. I’ve also enjoyed 70% of his output outside the WWE and he did help put AEW on the map and had some bangers there and in Japan. He is past his peak now which is sad to see, happened to all the greats including the likes of Funk and Taker. I think he is still capable of being world class but also needs a change, but he’s in an environment which doesn’t encourage that and he is way too comfortable, Jericho I knew was always full of ideas and had something big in his back pocket. But I will always keep the fond memories of him being one of the best to ever do it.
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For years I screamed foul of Y2J being mistreated, especially by HHH, and not being given the full backing. But when Y2J had that, he turned into everything I hated about Trips, he became the New York Yankees of AEW
 
One of the mesmerising and spine chilling segment is Elimination Chamber having Orton, Nash, HBK, Jericho, HHH & Goldberg. The part where Goldberg enters and destroys everyone is a stuff of video games, that terrified look on HHH face something seen very rarely, shame the match finished unexpectedly
 
shaz619 said:
I still like Chris Jericho the performer, ignoring all else. I’ve also enjoyed 70% of his output outside the WWE and he did help put AEW on the map and had some bangers there and in Japan. He is past his peak now which is sad to see, happened to all the greats including the likes of Funk and Taker. I think he is still capable of being world class but also needs a change, but he’s in an environment which doesn’t encourage that and he is way too comfortable, Jericho I knew was always full of ideas and had something big in his back pocket. But I will always keep the fond memories of him being one of the best to ever do it.
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It's said a lot about how Taker fell from grace in his later years. But Taker only have 5-6 bad matches stretched over the course of his last few years of his career. His in ring work only fell off starting from 2017 Mania in that infamous match against Roman. Till then he had a great little feud with Brock and The Wyatt Family. Even then he managed to provide 1 really good tag match in his last year or so (Taker/Roman vs Drew/Shane). He never looked out of sorts or as if he was consistently doing bad work which is the beauty of part time schedule. He would only wrestle 2-3 matches a year and was mainly used as a star attraction. He was still able to go out on a high after his match with AJ Styles. Possibly the second best cinematic match WWE have done.
 
shaz619 said:
For years I screamed foul of Y2J being mistreated, especially by HHH, and not being given the full backing. But when Y2J had that, he turned into everything I hated about Trips, he became the New York Yankees of AEW
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It's just the same thing. Like Galadriel said "But the hearts of men are easily corrupted". Once Y2J got that much power backstage and creative freedom, he didn't utilize it well after his first few months in AEW. His NJPW run was pretty good though. Although I didn't like his matches with Evil, Sanada and Tanahashi, his matches with Omega, Okada and Naito were pretty good. Regarding Tanahashi, I seldom find his matches to be good. The guy is overrated as hell for his in ring work. Has a very limited moveset and his matches are pretty repeatable. Nowhere near Okada in terms of giving great matches.
 
This is interesting. Up until a couple of years ago I would have never thought something like this would happen under Vince. But I guess it really is a new era in WWE.
 
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BunnyRabbit said:
It's said a lot about how Taker fell from grace in his later years. But Taker only have 5-6 bad matches stretched over the course of his last few years of his career. His in ring work only fell off starting from 2017 Mania in that infamous match against Roman. Till then he had a great little feud with Brock and The Wyatt Family. Even then he managed to provide 1 really good tag match in his last year or so (Taker/Roman vs Drew/Shane). He never looked out of sorts or as if he was consistently doing bad work which is the beauty of part time schedule. He would only wrestle 2-3 matches a year and was mainly used as a star attraction. He was still able to go out on a high after his match with AJ Styles. Possibly the second best cinematic match WWE have done.
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I don't think the part time schedule helped him, Taker had to work limited dates because his body could not physically take it anymore. He was always in pain but it got worse with age considering his style and frame. Not being able to work more frequently meant he had to work 10x harder and put his body under more strain in a bid to recover his rhythm, timing and ring generalship; and that was a huge battle for him, because it got harder each year. When you're inactive and been in the wars, you fast track your decline, and the body doesn't respond to taking bumps like they use to. This happened to Kurt, when he came back, it was on the back of a classic match with Lashley in TNA, he still had his form; but Vince punished him for leaving him in 06, and had him in those backstage roles, so when he did get back in the ring, outside the tag team match where you are protected a bit more, he wasn't ever the same again. I think the fans were robbed there but for Kurt it was great because he could think about retirement when a year ago he wanted to continue on a full time schedule as long as possible, so at least he was protected from himself.
 
Somebody needs to give Perry a good hiding, I don't think the Punk choking was enough. The guy is such a moron, why is he even in this business
 
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RedwoodOriginal said:
This is interesting. Up until a couple of years ago I would have never thought something like this would happen under Vince. But I guess it really is a new era in WWE.
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Mox comeback confirmed lol jokes
 
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shaz619 said:
Mox comeback confirmed lol jokes
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You allow him to wrestle Nick Gage in a match involving tubelights and glass and who knows, he might just come running back. I think I read somewhere a couple of years ago that one of the big things in new contract that Tony wanted was him not doing all these deathmatches for GCW and other indie promotions :ROFLMAO:
 
shaz619 said:
Mox comeback confirmed lol jokes
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You allow him to wrestle Nick Gage in a match involving tube lights and glass and who knows, he might just come running back. I think I read somewhere a couple of years ago that one of the big things in his new contract that Tony wanted was him not doing all these deathmatches for GCW and other indie promotions :ROFLMAO:
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Apparently the Bucks said this on Dynamite:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775697490366673169

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775705025416745418

That answers your question why he is still in the business
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That also answers Punk's question of "why do you insist on doing this dumb internet stuff, Jack?"

I mean don't get me wrong he is a moron and who probably grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth and got everything he ever wanted. But its very much also a case of: "...who he's friends with"
 
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@shaz619 I will bet you my house that the Bucks are politicking with Tony right now to bring Jack Perry back to AEW TV because of 'how much heat he has'. I wouldn't even be surprised if they make him a part of their faction.

Didn't wanna do business and make money off real life stuff when Punk was there. Business that could have helped draw viewers, fill those half empty arenas and make money. But now they will do dream promos and angles for the internet as their TV ratings hit new lows every week. But ofcourse none of that matters because as a wise man once said, this isn't a real business.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
@shaz619 I will bet you my house that the Bucks are politicking with Tony right now to bring Jack Perry back to AEW TV because of 'how much heat he has'. I wouldn't even be surprised if they make him a part of their faction.

Didn't wanna do business and make money off real life stuff when Punk was there. Business that could have helped draw viewers, fill those half empty arenas and make money. But now they will do dream promos and angles for the internet as their TV ratings hit new lows every week. But ofcourse none of that matters because as a wise man once said, this isn't a real business.
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Absolutely, the elite have been pulling the ‘retarrd’ strings being the scenes, is it a coincidence that the dumbest specimens seem to gravitate towards them. I don’t know why Khan is willing to allow his business to be abused like this, even if this is all fun and games, have some self respect at least
 
shaz619 said:
Absolutely, the elite have been pulling the ‘retarrd’ strings being the scenes, is it a coincidence that the dumbest specimens seem to gravitate towards them. I don’t know why Khan is willing to allow his business to be abused like this, even if this is all fun and games, have some self respect at least
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The only thing I can think of is that he thinks there is somehow an audience out there for this? I mean there probably is but its very small and consists of the same nerds who have been following these idiots from their days on the indies.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
The only thing I can think of is that he thinks there is somehow an audience out there for this? I mean there probably is but its very small and consists of the same nerds who have been following these idiots from their days on the indies.
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But why lose millions of dollars each week; even more so when it’s abundantly clear, certain groups have flushed his company down the drain and ran out some huge names, if he was in doubt, that nerd audience is dwindling to. He has been running the company for about half a decade, shouldn’t the profitability ring any bells even now. Are his friendships really worth this much damage to his business and also his reputation as a man? I don’t know what he sees in the Elite or what they are doing for him behind the scenes. Whether it’s friendship or shear incompetence; it’s baffling.

And it’s a big statement, but he has hurt the business more than Eric, Paul or anyone else did.
 
So Carlito's heel turn at Mania seems like a done deal now.
The Battle Royal had legit zero starpower. Ricochet and Omos were the biggest names there.
 
I gotta see Stone Cold come out and stunner Rock into a flopping fish again.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Is it just me or the card of Night 1 Mania looks much more exciting than Night 2's? @shaz619 @RedwoodOriginal
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I dunno I feel like the Night 2 card looks far more exciting. Only two matches I'm excited for on Night 1 are Sami Zayn v Gunther and obviously the main-event tag match.

Meanwhile Night 2 has Seth v Drew, The triple threat US title match, LA v AJ and Cody v Roman. IYO v Bayley could be pretty good too. The only match that feels shoehorned on Night 2 is Lashley and the Street Profits v Karrion Kross's group.
 
shaz619 said:
But why lose millions of dollars each week; even more so when it’s abundantly clear, certain groups have flushed his company down the drain and ran out some huge names, if he was in doubt, that nerd audience is dwindling to. He has been running the company for about half a decade, shouldn’t the profitability ring any bells even now. Are his friendships really worth this much damage to his business and also his reputation as a man? I don’t know what he sees in the Elite or what they are doing for him behind the scenes. Whether it’s friendship or shear incompetence; it’s baffling.
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Because it doesn't matter as long as he gets to live out his childhood dream. If TNT says today that we don't want this on our channel anymore, Tony is just gonna find a way to get some other channel to show it or take the show to streaming. As far as his reputation and credibility is concerned, could it really be damaged anymore at this point?

I think its a combination of them being his friends and him being in denial about the appeal of these doofuses. Because he sees the ratings and he knows that they bottom out every week they come on TV. They've been playing the same characters and doing the same matches since AEW started. If they are babyfaces every storyline is about friends and friendship. If they are heels, its about being these fake, whiny versions of themselves, doing bad comedy and making obscure references that their little diehard BTE fanbase can understand. The only people they are interested in having matches with are their friends because god knows we haven't seen enough of that. It's childish and stupid. And 'my daddy is my ATM' is willing to let them to do it all.

shaz619 said:
And it’s a big statement, but he has hurt the business more than Eric, Paul or anyone else did.
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I don't think it is. Heyman has a big role in making every mutant think they can be a wrestler by going through barbed wire, broken glass, light tubes and what not. But atleast with your garden variety deathmatch wrestler, you can take one look and easily mistake them for a crack addict that just walked off the street. Tony is much worse because he has mainstreamed indie wrestling by putting these guys (who don't understand anything about wrestling) on TV. He has made everyone think that they can become a pro-wrestler because why wouldn't you think that when you see an idiot like Jack Perry on TV cut a bland and boring promo? You would probably think, that hey, I'm taller than him...in much better shape than him and I can speak more convincingly.

I think we will truly start to see the manifestation of this a few years from now. And it will affect everything from the popularity of wrestling to locker-room culture.
 
I saw Edge's promo and it was pretty much what I expected it to be. He appealed to the core AEW fanbase and took a couple of shots at Punk "This is AEW, where the best wrestle", but I wasn't surprised by anything he said. Infact he reinforced everything people already think about AEW that it's 'fun' and that there are alot of potentially great dream matches.

I don't think anyone disputes that anyway. Clearly the wrestlers are having alot of fun and AEW has made wrestling more fun by giving us so much to laugh at. The wrestling and the quality of matches can be great on a consistent basis and they definitely have a great roster.

It's the other areas of presenting logical booking, compelling storylines, drawing viewers and making money that AEW fails miserably in. And I think Edge knows that which is why he steered clear of alluding to any of these things.
 
Watching Vintage Wrestling, Goldberg WCW days gets a long undefeated streak, Diamond Dallas, Giant, Bam Bam and so on.....as JR later said "Goldberg is an animal"
 

SmackDown Results, April 5, 2024​

  • "Big" Bronson Reed won the 2024 Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
  • Elektra Lopez def. Zelina Vega
  • New Catch Republic def. Austin Theory and Grayson Waller
  • Jey Uso vs. Solo Sikoa ended in a No-Contest
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I saw Edge's promo and it was pretty much what I expected it to be. He appealed to the core AEW fanbase and took a couple of shots at Punk "This is AEW, where the best wrestle", but I wasn't surprised by anything he said. Infact he reinforced everything people already think about AEW that it's 'fun' and that there are alot of potentially great dream matches.

I don't think anyone disputes that anyway. Clearly the wrestlers are having alot of fun and AEW has made wrestling more fun by giving us so much to laugh at. The wrestling and the quality of matches can be great on a consistent basis and they definitely have a great roster.

It's the other areas of presenting logical booking, compelling storylines, drawing viewers and making money that AEW fails miserably in. And I think Edge knows that which is why he steered clear of alluding to any of these things.
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Funny a couple of years ago, it was Edge on WWE in a promo with Miz saying "people on other shows like to mention you to boost their ratings"
 
Till now, only Becky vs Rhea and Sami vs Gunther have actually felt like Wrestlemania matches.
Jimmy vs Jey was poor. Both were gassed out even at the start.
Tag team ladder was fun but could have been even better.
Rey Andrade match was a good worked match. The storyline just didn't have much heat to feel like a Mania match.
Sami vs Gunther has been the best one so far considering both guys' in ring generalship and Sami's talents to pop up the crowd.
Counting on the mainevent to make it magical. Apart from that, Trips need to learn a lot on how to do a Mania. He just likes to book wrestling matches. No surprises or nothing to make Mania and big events feel bigger.
 
Great Night 1 overall, started off hot and the finishing stretch of the card was great. The USOS were probably told to hold back and leave some breathing space for the other matches, but that’s no excuse for them to have a match like that when they’re capable of so much more, I’ve not been happy with the build either.

The ladder match was great, Rhea and Becky got going eventually, the mexican civil war was a fun spot match for a big show, Jade Cargil gave me a reason not to go for a wee break and the main event was solid; it could have been chopped in half, but they needed to build Rock’s confidence and some heat without the bells and whistles which are being saved for tomorrow, Rock’s selling was outstanding and his coordination surprised me, it felt to me though Reigns was put through the ringer and I don’t know how his nose got busted open, but that clearly affected his breathing and he did his best to power through it all, hopefully none of them picked up anything serious with Night 2 up next
 
Beyond that, the camera was a bit sloppy and a little more telegraphic then I’d have liked it.

Also, a big middle finger to the digital advertising board which was replaced the traditional ring apron, I always loved seeing the Wrestlemania banner.
 
I watched the Hall Of Fame and Paul E’s speech is definitely worth a listen, and the others to, always so inspiring but Paul’s a must and it was largely unfiltered.

And finally, I caught the main event for NXT; Melo and Trik put on a phenomenal no nonsense match, the future looks promising with these two. Carmelo can be the next top all round talent and I’m getting Booker T vibes from Williams. Credit to Shawn for booking a great event and also developing the talent properly rather then being a 4/10, one dimensional ego maniac of a booker….
 
Saw a clip on SM recently of Muhammad Ali being inducted in the Hall of Fame by Undertaker. Never seen walk so fast to the ring.
 
Current Rock is my favourite ginmick in ages. The Final Boss is the greatest gimmick that I can remember for some time. Too bad he will cost Reigns the title tomorrow and Cody will finish his stupid story.
 
Edge is a complete joke in AEW. To be honest, he has been a complete joke since his return in 2020. He was one of the most compelling characters from 2005-11, but his return has been one gigantic disappointment. It makes you wonder if he should have remained retired.
 
Kianig89 said:
Watching Vintage Wrestling, Goldberg WCW days gets a long undefeated streak, Diamond Dallas, Giant, Bam Bam and so on.....as JR later said "Goldberg is an animal"
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Goldberg streak was legendary. Modern wrestling fans don’t realise how massively over Bill Goldberg was with the WCW crowd.

Too bad his streak was ended by overrated Kevin Nash.
 
I reckon that no good piece of sh!t cringe lord Seth Rollins, busted Reigns open with the curb stomp when his face was facing up, another gem on his decorated resume
 
Overall, the night one of Wrestlemania was underwhelming. Not exactly a great start to Triple H’s new era. No one will ever top peak Vince McMahon as the booker and promoter.
 
What now for Cody? Is he going to lose his 1 on 1 championship match against roman? Don't tell me
Watching Miz and Truth win was comical stuff
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WWE WrestleMania 40 Results on April 6, 2024:

  • Rhea Ripley def. Becky Lynch | WWE Women’s World Championship
  • Awesome Truth wins Six-Pack Tag Team Ladder Match | WWE Tag Team Titles
  • Rey Mysterio and Andrade def. Santos Escobar and Dominik Mysterio
  • Jey Uso def. Jimmy Uso
  • Jade Cargill Bianca Belair and Naomi def. Damage CTRL
  • Sami Zayn def. GUNTHER | WWE Intercontinental Championship
  • The Rock and Roman Reigns de. Cody Rhodes and Seth Rollins
 
shaz619 said:
I reckon that no good piece of sh!t cringe lord Seth Rollins, busted Reigns open with the curb stomp when his face was facing up, another gem on his decorated resume
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Haven’t got a chance to watch it yet but this is frustrating if true.
 
Suleiman said:
Haven’t got a chance to watch it yet but this is frustrating if true.
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Reigns was put through the ringer in that match and deal with some very stiff work, by the end he was more shattered then The Rock, and in the press conference very upset, a reporter got kicked out to for being funny. Seth is one of the stiffest wrestlers out there. And he has to do it all again today lol
 
shaz619 said:
Reigns was put through the ringer in that match and deal with some very stiff work, by the end he was more shattered then The Rock, and in the press conference very upset, a reporter got kicked out to for being funny. Seth is one of the stiffest wrestlers out there. And he has to do it all again today lol
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You wonder if it is a smart decision to have guys involved in your world title matches on the second night to wrestle on the first night? What if Roman, Seth or Cody got injured and couldn't compete on the second night?
 
Gotta say that Brahma Bull title looks amazing. Best looking title since they relinquished the OG World Heavyweight Championship belt.

Apparently they were supposed to use it during Rock and Austin feud during corporate storyline iirc when Austin had his smoking skull belt.

Glad they gave us that throwback though.
 
The_KING said:
You wonder if it is a smart decision to have guys involved in your world title matches on the second night to wrestle on the first night? What if Roman, Seth or Cody got injured and couldn't compete on the second night?
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I understand why they did it, WWE/TKO are under no illusion how big a draw Punk is, his injury caused this plans to come into fruition. Otherwise I don’t think Rock works this year.

But you’re absolutely spot on, I think the Night 2 card would be in great jeopardy, their strict medical would need to make an exception of some kind and we’d probably see something like a squash or 5 min match.

With that being said I’ve enjoyed The Bloodline v Cody feud especially with the addition of The Rock, they’d have to find a way to get Rock booked / protect him and also not compromise the main event for Night 2 by risking injuries to Cody or Reigns.
 
AJ Styles has beef with The Bloodline to, he should have been in the match instead of Rollins, he would have protected everyone from being so banged up, especially Reigns
 
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Gotta say that Brahma Bull title looks amazing. Best looking title since they relinquished the OG World Heavyweight Championship belt.

Apparently they were supposed to use it during Rock and Austin feud during corporate storyline iirc when Austin had his smoking skull belt.

Glad they gave us that throwback though.
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I might be wrong but that belt may have been an unlockable in one of the old games, it looked so cool and even now. I think a tad better than the smoking skull belt to imo
 
Dwayne looked great, obviously he wasn't as fast as the other 3 in the match. Seems like he shed some muscle bulk in the lead up to the match which didn't gas him up. His selling was great as ever.
The Night 1 ended up being a little underwhelming for me apart from the mainevent. Jimmy vs Jey was a stinker and sucked the life out of the event. The crowd was pretty dead for a few matches.
The worst thing was Corey and Pat's commentary. They sounded dead and fatigued even at the start of Mania. There was no energy in their voices which is inexcusable. They should bring in Wade Barrett for Graves for Night 2.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1776790014619259252

https://twitter.com/x/status/1776885847964393652

https://twitter.com/x/status/1776884851062255821

This skum tried to get this beautiful man cancelled, but they failed; and thankfully, WWE didn’t buckle towards them. Two years running and huge wins on the flag ship event, the whole set up and pay off was done so well, and going over Gunther clean is special, I loved the match and it felt like Wrestlemania came alive, it’s ultimately about raw emotion and they pulled it off there. That Sami Zayn entrance was 🔥 to.
 
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Great Night 1 overall, started off hot and the finishing stretch of the card was great. The USOS were probably told to hold back and leave some breathing space for the other matches, but that’s no excuse for them to have a match like that when they’re capable of so much more, I’ve not been happy with the build either.

The ladder match was great, Rhea and Becky got going eventually, the mexican civil war was a fun spot match for a big show, Jade Cargil gave me a reason not to go for a wee break and the main event was solid; it could have been chopped in half, but they needed to build Rock’s confidence and some heat without the bells and whistles which are being saved for tomorrow, Rock’s selling was outstanding and his coordination surprised me, it felt to me though Reigns was put through the ringer and I don’t know how his nose got busted open, but that clearly affected his breathing and he did his best to power through it all, hopefully none of them picked up anything serious with Night 2 up next
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Dwayne said expect a few surprises tomorrow.
 
shaz619 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1776790014619259252

https://twitter.com/x/status/1776885847964393652

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The zionist skum tried to get this beautiful man cancelled, but they failed; and thankfully, WWE didn’t buckle towards them. Two years running and huge wins on the flag ship event, the whole set up and pay off was done so well, and going over Gunther clean is special, I loved the match and it felt like Wrestlemania came alive, it’s ultimately about raw emotion and they pulled it off there. That Sami Zayn entrance was 🔥 to.
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But I think Ari Emanuel is an Israel supporter.
 
Seth Rollins looked so out of place in that tag team match. You got The Rock, who is a legit megastar, then Reigns who although doesn't have the star quality of his cousin is still a big star in his own right. Even Cody, who I am not a fan of looked like he belonged there, but SETH ROLLINS??? We all know that his wife is the MAN of his household. Couldn't WWE have temped Stone Cold Steve Austin to make a return for one more match and team up with Cody? That way, we would have got Austin vs The Rock one more time.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Dwayne looked great, obviously he wasn't as fast as the other 3 in the match. Seems like he shed some muscle bulk in the lead up to the match which didn't gas him up. His selling was great as ever.
The Night 1 ended up being a little underwhelming for me apart from the mainevent. Jimmy vs Jey was a stinker and sucked the life out of the event. The crowd was pretty dead for a few matches.
The worst thing was Corey and Pat's commentary. They sounded dead and fatigued even at the start of Mania. There was no energy in their voices which is inexcusable. They should bring in Wade Barrett for Graves for Night 2.
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Rock looked amazing and there were people who were saying that he would be gassed after 5 minutes. :ROFLMAO:

WWE commentary has been awful for years, in my opinion. I miss the days of peak Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler. Those two, especially JR would help to elevate superstars because of the emotion with which they would deliver their lines.
 
Hahahaha brilliant... I predicted it but was so good!

Not sure if anyone else watching so don't wanna give it away
 
The_KING said:
Rock looked amazing and there were people who were saying that he would be gassed after 5 minutes. :ROFLMAO:

WWE commentary has been awful for years, in my opinion. I miss the days of peak Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler. Those two, especially JR would help to elevate superstars because of the emotion with which they would deliver their lines.
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They were great till late 2000s. But JR's commentary has taken a big dive. I don't find his commentary that good in AEW.
 
MK7Z said:
Hahahaha brilliant... I predicted it but was so good!

Not sure if anyone else watching so don't wanna give it away
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I thought they would hold it till The Raw after Mania. But I think Drew will take it back soon. Don't see Priest carrying the title for long.
 
MK7Z said:
Woah Drew. Pure domination.

Seth didn't look right
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A brilliant match by Drew and Seth.
The_KING said:
Seth Rollins looked so out of place in that tag team match. You got The Rock, who is a legit megastar, then Reigns who although doesn't have the star quality of his cousin is still a big star in his own right. Even Cody, who I am not a fan of looked like he belonged there, but SETH ROLLINS??? We all know that his wife is the MAN of his household. Couldn't WWE have temped Stone Cold Steve Austin to make a return for one more match and team up with Cody? That way, we would have got Austin vs The Rock one more time.
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Think Austin will make an appearance tonight in the mainevent.
I have been very criticial of Seth in last 1 year but I think he did a good job in the tag match (the match not the buildup).
Cody looked very small while facing The Rock and Roman. He needs to bulk up a little.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
A brilliant match by Drew and Seth.

Think Austin will make an appearance tonight in the mainevent.
I have been very criticial of Seth in last 1 year but I think he did a good job in the tag match (the match not the buildup).
Cody looked very small while facing The Rock and Roman. He needs to bulk up a little.
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Yup no build up. Straight up action
 
That table fail was funny.
If not for Montez Ford, the match would have given Jimmy vs Jey for the worst match of Mania till now. Montez really pops up the crowd. Kross is a very disjointed worker.
 
Are you guys a fan of two nights of Wrestlemania?

I am not, because there are matches on the card that feel more like Raw/Smackdown matches than Wrestlemania worthy matches. I miss the days when Wrestlemania was only one night and the show was like 3-4 hours long, and every match felt somewhat special. That is the case no more.
 
The_KING said:
Are you guys a fan of two nights of Wrestlemania?

I am not, because there are matches on the card that feel more like Raw/Smackdown matches than Wrestlemania worthy matches. I miss the days when Wrestlemania was only one night and the show was like 3-4 hours long, and every match felt somewhat special. That is the case no more.
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If they put all the matches on one night and all being big matches, the crowd will get exhausted pretty quickly by 4th or 5th match. It's WWE's strategy to put filler matches in between so the crowd pumps back once a big match comes up. Mania 2022 was done very well. There were similarly 7 matches each night but it felt magical. Even the matches like Sami Zayn vs Johnny Knoxville delivered there. Austin Theory vs Pat McAfee was for some reason the most enjoyable thing on the show.
Trips booking lacks the magic. He is usually just interested in giving well wrestled matches. Variety of matches has been lacking. Would have been great had they made the US title match a 6-8 men ladder match. Hopefully the mainevent will deliver.
 
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