The Wrestling Discussion Thread

I have the actual UMD for a non-hacked PSP and was wondering if it did that, the roms on hacked psp work fine however
yes hacked version is much much superior. the best thing about it is hacked version gives 4-5 hours of game time while with umd it's barely 2 hours.
 
I think he’d do a better job in Gable’s spot to
Yes, much much better. He has main roster written all over him. He just needs to go full heel. Once he gets properly over with the fans, would love to see him feud with Orton.
 
Well tbh I have only seen Ali booked like a jobber so maybe I don't have the complete picture. But even when they tried to do something with him with the whole Retribution faction, it was really bae. Though I guess you could blame creative for that.
The original 205 live till Murphy winning the belt was pretty great (apart from Enzo's reign as champ)
Cedric, Mustafa, Murphy, Neville, Kendrick, Gulak, Gran Metallik, TJP (yes even him), Rich Swan, Tozawa all were doing great work there. Even Drake Maverick got some shine.
 
From the cruiserweight classic to his first run as a star he had a great initial stint, he was rumoured to go over for the WWE title as well before his injury which promoted Kofi mania, there were some ups and downs but he helped put 205 live on the map, I think you’d really like the matches he had there, Buddy did his best work during that period to and better than anything he has done in AEW to. The stuff with retribution was poor and last 1/4 he wasn’t booked well so they let him hit reset in NXT, which ultimately is doing well for him in TNA as their X-Division champ and the presidential gimmick, also became the first top muslim wrestler to be on the cover of PWI magazine I believe, especially from his heritage.
Buddy Murphy's feud with Mustafa Ali, Cedric on 205 live and Roman (that mini feud) and Black was pretty awesome. His match with Roman is very very underrated.
 
He was actually being nice, I don’t think he said anything bad lol If you a problem with Take man that’s more of a ‘you’ problem
Yeah lol this was as nice as you can be. Unsurprisingly though he thinks very highly of MJF and that he should go to WWE lol.
 
The controls are so weird bro like it don’t feel good to pick up and play just for the matches, you have to press L or R to run as well which feels flimsy and it’s awkward playing the gimmick matches which 11 was meant to be good for.

2006 I loved overall due to the gameplay, insane storylines and challenge mode, 2007 better gameplay but I don’t recall if the story mode was as good as 2006.

08 I wonder if the PSP port was as good as the PS3 version which was pretty special
I've played the PS2 and PS3 versions, both of which I loved. It was the first wrestling game I played on PS3 so the improved graphics were also a big thing for me.
 
@shaz619 Hearing you talk about PSP has made me want to start playing again too. I haven't played it for atleast 4-5 years though. I think I've lost the charger so I will probably have to buy that too if I can't find it in my room. But how badly do you reckon the battery would have degraded? Do you think it will start up if I charge it?
 
@shaz619 Hearing you talk about PSP has made me want to start playing again too. I haven't played it for atleast 4-5 years though. I think I've lost the charger so I will probably have to buy that too if I can't find it in my room. But how badly do you reckon the battery would have degraded? Do you think it will start up if I charge it?

In Pak especially I think it’s likely the battery has swollen, I had mine in the shed a few years and that happened. If you take the battery cover off and try putting it back on it may not close flush that’s one indication, or just have a look to see if the cover is pushing out, if it’s don’t try to force close it because it will just break the latch.

Once you get the charger see if it wakes the battery up and if it does, make do with it but be careful not to put a lot of forceful pressure on the battery door.

If the amber light doesn’t come on at all, then a new battery may be needed, Ostent is meant to be a decent brand
 
yes hacked version is much much superior. the best thing about it is hacked version gives 4-5 hours of game time while with umd it's barely 2 hours.

Yes with hacked there is no lag, and with the hours it really depends on the condition of the battery to.

Also I discovered that slight lag is normal, because I managed to obtain a discounted 07 with a broken seal which is in a like new condition, and it slightly lags to but not as much as the used 06 one I tried.

07 is not just great for the gameplay etc but how about it being forever GOATED with the cover of my favourite wrestler on it
 
Buddy Murphy's feud with Mustafa Ali, Cedric on 205 live and Roman (that mini feud) and Black was pretty awesome. His match with Roman is very very underrated.

I thought 205 would be for jobbers but they made me watch it and just had the license to kill it in the ring
 
Playing just the matches only on 06 and 07, 07 is such a big leap with the gameplay from the graphics to the presentation and authentic cut scenes like Angle getting the medal after he wins lmao

@RedwoodOriginal @BunnyRabbit I am starting to feel the PSP is arguably the best handheld ever because to this day I’ve not played these high level wrestling games on a handheld you can consider a genuine portable, and the library is huge anyway, but you can’t play such wrestling games on the DS or Switch and it’s possible we never will for the foreseeable future because the new handheld wills all be heavy duty
 
The original 205 live till Murphy winning the belt was pretty great (apart from Enzo's reign as champ)
Cedric, Mustafa, Murphy, Neville, Kendrick, Gulak, Gran Metallik, TJP (yes even him), Rich Swan, Tozawa all were doing great work there. Even Drake Maverick got some shine.

It was born out of the fantastic ‘international’ cruiserweight classic tournament.

Mustafa Ali wasn’t even a main participant and was in the reserves, he got in due to an injury, it was pretty cool to see him represent Pakistan during the event.

He always worked with a chip on his shoulder and fought for more, Vince liked that quality in him before it went south, Vince gave chances to guys who were willing to fight him
 
It was born out of the fantastic ‘international’ cruiserweight classic tournament.

Mustafa Ali wasn’t even a main participant and was in the reserves, he got in due to an injury, it was pretty cool to see him represent Pakistan during the event.

He always worked with a chip on his shoulder and fought for more, Vince liked that quality in him before it went south, Vince gave chances to guys who were willing to fight him
Yes, he's very good in the ring. Promos are decent too. He can easily get over with desi fans as well.
 
Playing just the matches only on 06 and 07, 07 is such a big leap with the gameplay from the graphics to the presentation and authentic cut scenes like Angle getting the medal after he wins lmao

@RedwoodOriginal @BunnyRabbit I am starting to feel the PSP is arguably the best handheld ever because to this day I’ve not played these high level wrestling games on a handheld you can consider a genuine portable, and the library is huge anyway, but you can’t play such wrestling games on the DS or Switch and it’s possible we never will for the foreseeable future because the new handheld wills all be heavy duty
Yes psp is defo the best handheld console ever.
Plus it used to be much cheaper than others. And cfw just made it a beast with emulators of sega, neogeo, ps1, atari, nintendo, capcom, arcade etc etc
And its own game catalogue is huge. The only thing i'd have liked would have been l2 r2 and second analog stick.
 
@shaz619 Hearing you talk about PSP has made me want to start playing again too. I haven't played it for atleast 4-5 years though. I think I've lost the charger so I will probably have to buy that too if I can't find it in my room. But how badly do you reckon the battery would have degraded? Do you think it will start up if I charge it?
I bought mine in 2010. It's been running smooth ever since. Got the dpad replaced, which got dysfunctional during travel. Got the new one for 2$ from aliexpress cause psp's spare parts are extremely difficult to find in pakistan now.
Apart from that, i got sd card jacket that converts into memory stick duo. So am able to use my sd card in it and msd's are slower, expansive and extremely difficult to find in islamabad/rawalpindi these days.
 
In Pak especially I think it’s likely the battery has swollen, I had mine in the shed a few years and that happened. If you take the battery cover off and try putting it back on it may not close flush that’s one indication, or just have a look to see if the cover is pushing out, if it’s don’t try to force close it because it will just break the latch.

Once you get the charger see if it wakes the battery up and if it does, make do with it but be careful not to put a lot of forceful pressure on the battery door.

If the amber light doesn’t come on at all, then a new battery may be needed, Ostent is meant to be a decent brand
It turned on initially but then the light turned off so I'm guessing the battery is dead.

Noted. Thanks for the info.
 
I bought mine in 2010. It's been running smooth ever since. Got the dpad replaced, which got dysfunctional during travel. Got the new one for 2$ from aliexpress cause psp's spare parts are extremely difficult to find in pakistan now.
Apart from that, i got sd card jacket that converts into memory stick duo. So am able to use my sd card in it and msd's are slower, expansive and extremely difficult to find in islamabad/rawalpindi these days.
Thinking of taking my PSP to a gaming shop. So I can get all the stuff sorted out in one go. Because I ain't getting my charger back (gave it to someone I am no longer in contact with) and the battery is dead.
 
Playing just the matches only on 06 and 07, 07 is such a big leap with the gameplay from the graphics to the presentation and authentic cut scenes like Angle getting the medal after he wins lmao

@RedwoodOriginal @BunnyRabbit I am starting to feel the PSP is arguably the best handheld ever because to this day I’ve not played these high level wrestling games on a handheld you can consider a genuine portable, and the library is huge anyway, but you can’t play such wrestling games on the DS or Switch and it’s possible we never will for the foreseeable future because the new handheld wills all be heavy duty
Agreed. Nothing compares. It was so much superior to DS and the gaming library alone is so vast. And even in PSP I would say till 3000. Because I feel like it started going downhill with Vita/Go.
 
It's three people talking among themselves, who cares?
Forum cares. Not the right thread for these 3 people to talk about games and consoles. So thanks if you can talk about the topic else we have other threads available for this conversation about games.
 
Forum cares. Not the right thread for these 3 people to talk about games and consoles. So thanks if you can talk about the topic else we have other threads available for this conversation about games.
There are like 4 people on this thread..
 
The Scottish crowd on SmackDown was really annoying. I get that they are trying to enjoy themselves but the way they hijacked that Cody-AJ segment was far more annoying than any 'What' chant I've heard on WWE TV. I just hope they don't do too much of this on the PPV because it was too much here.

There were atleast two moments when Cody was in the middle of an impassioned speech and the crowd just hijacked the whole thing with their stupid football hooligan chant and Cody had to just stop talking until they shut up. Because they are so loud its not like you can even talk over them. And you could tell just by looking at Cody's face that he was visibly p!ssed off.
 

SmackDown Results, June 14, 2024​

  • Santos Escobar def. Apollo Crews
  • Nia Jax def. Michin
  • Solo Sikoa def. Kevin Owens
 
Got home in time to watch the mainevent. Having mixed feelings about Clash at the Castle.

McIntyre got deafening pops here and it would have been fitting for him to win the title here especially since Priest has looked like a total misfit. On the other hand, Punk's ruse was ATG level here. And it does make their feud even more blood thirsty. But I don't know if screwing over Drew again here was a good idea. Seems like something Trips would do back in the day during his reign of terror.

They need to increase no of matches on the ppvs. It's not Nxt Takeovers where you just get 5 20 min matches. It's the main roster. Makes the unbooked roster feel so redundant with only booking 5 matches on ppvs
 
I don't know but I kinda miss Seth. Roman taking a sabbatical was predictable but lack of Seth has been exposing lack of some firepower on Raw.
 
Just saw the return of Jeff Hardy to TNA. Boy he's easily the biggest name in TNA now and he's just re-signed with them.
The sad thing is how the mighty have fallen. Jeff was lured towards the greener pastures of AEW by Matt where they were used like jobbers after a year or so. Now he's gone back to TNA to rebuild himself. And he was actually being treated very well in WWE prior to his wandering off in the crowd during a house show.
It's pretty clear that they'd be looking to finish their careers in WWE and WWE probs didn't want them back.
I don't see WWE wanting to sign Matt again. But Trips has always had a soft spot for Jeff I believe.
 
I was suprised at Drew not winning. I thought the story wrote itself.

Damian gets his cash in at WM Vs Drew
Seth takes a break/recovery
Drew gets to win the title in Scotland
Punk vs Drew feud
Punk wins
Seth returns for Punk vs Seth feud

What do I know lol... Let's see how this pans out
 
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I was suprised at Drew not winning. I thought the story wrote itself.

Damian gets his cash in at WM Vs Drew
Seth takes a break/recovery
Drew gets to win the title in Scotland
Punk vs Drew feud
Punk wins
Seth returns for Punk vs Seth feud

What do I know lol... Let's see how this pans out
Drew Punk feud is much more interesting than Seth Punk was going to be.
 

WWE RAW Lineup for June 17, 2024 Episode:​

  • Money in the Bank Qualifiers
  • Karrion Kross vs. Xavier Woods (Maybe?)
  • Dragon Lee vs. Carlito
Source: ringsidenews
 
Got home in time to watch the mainevent. Having mixed feelings about Clash at the Castle.

McIntyre got deafening pops here and it would have been fitting for him to win the title here especially since Priest has looked like a total misfit. On the other hand, Punk's ruse was ATG level here. And it does make their feud even more blood thirsty. But I don't know if screwing over Drew again here was a good idea. Seems like something Trips would do back in the day during his reign of terror.

They need to increase no of matches on the ppvs. It's not Nxt Takeovers where you just get 5 20 min matches. It's the main roster. Makes the unbooked roster feel so redundant with only booking 5 matches on ppvs
I thought it was brilliantly executed. Some Spielbergian direction with that reveal of Punk in the referee's shirt.

I think this was the right place but the wrong time for Drew to win the belt. Also, if you're putting the belt on Gunther next it makes perfect sense. This for me adds depth to Drew's character by giving him a reason to be even more bitter. It heats up Punk v Drew which needs to happen at SummerSlam. When Drew wins the belt I want him to have a lengthy reign. Plus with his current gimmick, I feel he is far more interesting chasing the belt.

The commentary on this show was really good. Cole, Barrett and Graves make a great team. Unlike that stupid mark Excalibur, who just yells out the names of obscure Japanese moves, these guys actually tell you the story of the match and explain the motivation of the wrestlers. Barrett was especially great with his cheerleading of the heels. I laughed my a$$ off when after the match Barrett said that WWE should fire Punk for 'blowing the lid off this business' (now that's how you take a dig at another company), and that Punk should get out of Scotland before he gets lynched. :ROFLMAO:
 
I was suprised at Drew not winning. I thought the story wrote itself.

Damian gets his cash in at WM Vs Drew
Seth takes a break/recovery
Drew gets to win the title in Scotland
Punk vs Drew feud
Punk wins
Seth returns for Punk vs Seth feud

What do I know lol... Let's see how this pans out
Too many title changes. Plus it doesn't make sense to beat Gunther when you have booked him so strongly for the last two years.
 
Just saw the return of Jeff Hardy to TNA. Boy he's easily the biggest name in TNA now and he's just re-signed with them.
The sad thing is how the mighty have fallen. Jeff was lured towards the greener pastures of AEW by Matt where they were used like jobbers after a year or so. Now he's gone back to TNA to rebuild himself. And he was actually being treated very well in WWE prior to his wandering off in the crowd during a house show.
It's pretty clear that they'd be looking to finish their careers in WWE and WWE probs didn't want them back.
I don't see WWE wanting to sign Matt again. But Trips has always had a soft spot for Jeff I believe.
Jeff is finished. I feel sorry for him because whenever I watch one of his matches, he just looks like he's in so much pain. He can barely move in the ring. Usually AEW is completely to blame for a wrestler being booked like sh!t but in this case it's Jeff's fault. He just can't seem to stay sober for very long. AEW were going to put the tag belts on the Hardy Boyz but a week or so before the show Jeff got a DUI.

I personally think he needs to stop wrestling altogether. Because whatever addictions he has are triggered by all those crazy bumps he has taken and all that immense amount of pain he has put his body through for 20+ years. Eventually it all adds up. He needs to stop before something bad happens.
 
Jeff is finished. I feel sorry for him because whenever I watch one of his matches, he just looks like he's in so much pain. He can barely move in the ring. Usually AEW is completely to blame for a wrestler being booked like sh!t but in this case it's Jeff's fault. He just can't seem to stay sober for very long. AEW were going to put the tag belts on the Hardy Boyz but a week or so before the show Jeff got a DUI.

I personally think he needs to stop wrestling altogether. Because whatever addictions he has are triggered by all those crazy bumps he has taken and all that immense amount of pain he has put his body through for 20+ years. Eventually it all adds up. He needs to stop before something bad happens.
It's more like he's addicted to pain. The drugs and alcohol are reactionary. He is a sort of guy who needs external discipline to keep him in line, otherwise he'll fall away 10 out of 10 times.
He was doing very decently till his departure in wwe. It was only in aew he looked battered and broken.
For him, it's not about what he can produce in the ring tbh, it's more about he makes his fans feel and him doing 5-6 moves is actually going to do it for him. It's more about keeping him in control. He'll still draw. It's Matt who's washed up. Him and Darby had two very good singles matches.
But i doubt WWE would be looking to rehire him considering how he walked out on them without any good reason. If anything, WWE had been utilizing him well, much better than AEW ever did.
But Trips has always had a soft spot for him. Remains to be seen.
 
I thought it was brilliantly executed. Some Spielbergian direction with that reveal of Punk in the referee's shirt.

I think this was the right place but the wrong time for Drew to win the belt. Also, if you're putting the belt on Gunther next it makes perfect sense. This for me adds depth to Drew's character by giving him a reason to be even more bitter. It heats up Punk v Drew which needs to happen at SummerSlam. When Drew wins the belt I want him to have a lengthy reign. Plus with his current gimmick, I feel he is far more interesting chasing the belt.

The commentary on this show was really good. Cole, Barrett and Graves make a great team. Unlike that stupid mark Excalibur, who just yells out the names of obscure Japanese moves, these guys actually tell you the story of the match and explain the motivation of the wrestlers. Barrett was especially great with his cheerleading of the heels. I laughed my a$$ off when after the match Barrett said that WWE should fire Punk for 'blowing the lid off this business' (now that's how you take a dig at another company), and that Punk should get out of Scotland before he gets lynched. :ROFLMAO:
it made sense to heat up feud even more. But seeing how drew has been screwed over time and again is just annoying.
Drew is someone who can actually elevate the WHC title something Seth and Damian have miserably failed at.
 
Came across YouTube videos of female wrestler Megan Bayne , she has alot of moves, F5, Tombstone , Jackhammer, Hells Gate and another aerial spine buster/DDT a complete package. She has fought in Japan AeW, Beyond Wrestling and MCW
 
It's more like he's addicted to pain. The drugs and alcohol are reactionary. He is a sort of guy who needs external discipline to keep him in line, otherwise he'll fall away 10 out of 10 times.
He was doing very decently till his departure in wwe. It was only in aew he looked battered and broken.
For him, it's not about what he can produce in the ring tbh, it's more about he makes his fans feel and him doing 5-6 moves is actually going to do it for him. It's more about keeping him in control. He'll still draw. It's Matt who's washed up. Him and Darby had two very good singles matches.
But i doubt WWE would be looking to rehire him considering how he walked out on them without any good reason. If anything, WWE had been utilizing him well, much better than AEW ever did.
But Trips has always had a soft spot for him. Remains to be seen.
I don't know about that. I can't imagine that he loves being in pain. I think its more of a vicious cycle that alot of wrestlers get stuck in and he is no different. You use alcohol and drugs to self medicate and numb the pain, and pretty soon you're taking so much that everything spirals out of control.

He has name value for sure but he can't do anything in the ring at this point. Matt is even more washed up but atleast he doesn't look like he's in excruciating pain when he does a move.

He was being used okay in WWE. I think they had a feud between him and Roman planned right before he left. But even in WWE, there was that weird incident where he just walked into the crowd and left the building during a house match. I think that was what led to him being fired from WWE. Although they were not able to prove that he was under the influence when he did that.

It's a real shame. Because there was a time when he was so over that WWE were considering making him one of the top babyfaces of the company, on-par with Cena. I think 2008 was the year where he really peaked. But he was his own worst enemy. Being let go from WWE was bad enough, coming out to wrestle a match against Sting while being zonked out of his mind was rock-bottom.
 
I don't know about that. I can't imagine that he loves being in pain. I think its more of a vicious cycle that alot of wrestlers get stuck in and he is no different. You use alcohol and drugs to self medicate and numb the pain, and pretty soon you're taking so much that everything spirals out of control.

He has name value for sure but he can't do anything in the ring at this point. Matt is even more washed up but atleast he doesn't look like he's in excruciating pain when he does a move.

He was being used okay in WWE. I think they had a feud between him and Roman planned right before he left. But even in WWE, there was that weird incident where he just walked into the crowd and left the building during a house match. I think that was what led to him being fired from WWE. Although they were not able to prove that he was under the influence when he did that.

It's a real shame. Because there was a time when he was so over that WWE were considering making him one of the top babyfaces of the company, on-par with Cena. I think 2008 was the year where he really peaked. But he was his own worst enemy. Being let go from WWE was bad enough, coming out to wrestle a match against Sting while being zonked out of his mind was rock-bottom.
His walkout was probably orchestrated by Matt to get fired by WWE so he could go to AEW and resurrect Matt's career. He had an awesome match with AJ, and a brilliant 3 way ladder match with AJ and Sami a few months before he left.

Think he wrestled well vs Darby in both the singles matches.

Depression and somatoform disorders manifest in different ways. Some people need an excuse to get high. Jumping through the ladders etc does give a high due to the adrenaline rush to some people (it's real, some manifest their inner anger and expressions through dangerous activities). Then reward themselves with opioids and alcohol. It's not uncommon tbh. He just has a messed up family. He has a sister in law that curses him on social media and elder brother who is just using him to extend his own fading career. He is messed up but Matt's family is definitely more psychotic.
 
it made sense to heat up feud even more. But seeing how drew has been screwed over time and again is just annoying.
Drew is someone who can actually elevate the WHC title something Seth and Damian have miserably failed at.
Priest is a transitional champion. This reign will not be remembered much when Gunther finally beats him. They just wanted to get the belt on him because the MITB briefcase had been made to look completely useless in past few years. As for Punk, I would prefer it is title win came after he won the Royal Rumble or something.
 

Raw Results, June 17, 2024​

  • Braun Strowman def. Chad Gable
  • IYO SKY def. Kiana James and Zelina Vega to qualify for the Money in the Bank Ladder Match
  • Carlito def. Dragon Lee
  • Kayden Carter & Katana Chance def. Damage CTRL
  • Sheamus def. Bron Breakker via Disqualification
  • Jey Uso def. Finn Bálor and Rey Mysterio to qualify for the Money in the Bank Ladder Match
 
Priest is a transitional champion. This reign will not be remembered much when Gunther finally beats him. They just wanted to get the belt on him because the MITB briefcase had been made to look completely useless in past few years. As for Punk, I would prefer it is title win came after he won the Royal Rumble or something.
I'd like Gunther's reign to be really good cause I don't think elevating IC championship would mean he'd be a sure success to elevate WHC too. I just hope his eventual reign will be memorable. Trips for some reason is a big fan long long reigns. You don't really need every reign to be longer.
 
what's your take on wyatt 6's debut?
Priest is a transitional champion. This reign will not be remembered much when Gunther finally beats him. They just wanted to get the belt on him because the MITB briefcase had been made to look completely useless in past few years. As for Punk, I would prefer it is title win came after he won the Royal Rumble or something.
i thought it provided much better visuals than what they did with bray's redebut last year. But where they go from here is the question, and it has failed the last 3 times.
 
His walkout was probably orchestrated by Matt to get fired by WWE so he could go to AEW and resurrect Matt's career. He had an awesome match with AJ, and a brilliant 3 way ladder match with AJ and Sami a few months before he left.

Think he wrestled well vs Darby in both the singles matches.

Depression and somatoform disorders manifest in different ways. Some people need an excuse to get high. Jumping through the ladders etc does give a high due to the adrenaline rush to some people (it's real, some manifest their inner anger and expressions through dangerous activities). Then reward themselves with opioids and alcohol. It's not uncommon tbh. He just has a messed up family. He has a sister in law that curses him on social media and elder brother who is just using him to extend his own fading career. He is messed up but Matt's family is definitely more psychotic.
No bro that was way back in 2020 during the early days of the pandemic. He left WWE in 2022.

The Darby match was good. But it was another car crash that likely left him pretty hurt. He was good at dialing down his style and working a more mat-based/less high-flying style during the pandemic but he resorted back to all of his worst habits once he got to AEW.
 
I'd like Gunther's reign to be really good cause I don't think elevating IC championship would mean he'd be a sure success to elevate WHC too. I just hope his eventual reign will be memorable. Trips for some reason is a big fan long long reigns. You don't really need every reign to be longer.
I have high hopes because of the way Gunther has been booked in the past. He doesn't need to hold the belt for 600 days but I do think he needs a lengthy reign because there genuinely are alot of great fresh match-ups that they should do. Not to mention, they have a PPV in Berlin, one month after SummerSlam, which I presume Gunther will walk into as WHC.
 
what's your take on wyatt 6's debut?

i thought it provided much better visuals than what they did with bray's redebut last year. But where they go from here is the question, and it has failed the last 3 times.
I thought it looked pretty cool and creepy. Like something out of a horror movie. They built it up really well again with those QR Codes showing up on RAW and SD over the past few months leading to cryptic messages. Which I think is a really interesting way to build interest without saying anything. But yeah, remains to be seen where this goes. I realize that this kind of stuff requires a little bit of suspension of disbelief. Which is fine. Just as long as they keep the supernatural stuff out of this. Because that's where things start getting stupid for me.
 
No bro that was way back in 2020 during the early days of the pandemic. He left WWE in 2022.

The Darby match was good. But it was another car crash that likely left him pretty hurt. He was good at dialing down his style and working a more mat-based/less high-flying style during the pandemic but he resorted back to all of his worst habits once he got to AEW.
hmmm yes probably. But the thing is he can dial his style and work fine. It's just that he needs WWE (and it's organized structure) where he'll kept away from danger. AEW was never the right place for him.
 
I have high hopes because of the way Gunther has been booked in the past. He doesn't need to hold the belt for 600 days but I do think he needs a lengthy reign because there genuinely are alot of great fresh match-ups that they should do. Not to mention, they have a PPV in Berlin, one month after SummerSlam, which I presume Gunther will walk into as WHC.
I hope that he does rise to the challenge.
The weird thing with Priest was that he was pretty strong for IC title back then but inadequate for WHC yet. That doesn't take away his in ring work quality. He produced a brilliant match with Bad Bunny of all people.
Seth's return was great but it didn't really add anything. Like he just returned, cut a promo and left. Seems like he's still not cleared.
 
I thought it looked pretty cool and creepy. Like something out of a horror movie. They built it up really well again with those QR Codes showing up on RAW and SD over the past few months leading to cryptic messages. Which I think is a really interesting way to build interest without saying anything. But yeah, remains to be seen where this goes. I realize that this kind of stuff requires a little bit of suspension of disbelief. Which is fine. Just as long as they keep the supernatural stuff out of this. Because that's where things start getting stupid for me.
the qr codes thing didn't really excite me much this time around. It was a novel thing last time around with bray making his return but this time it was an open secret that it was about wyatt six. But i liked the macabre presentation it was done.
For some reason, i thought Abbie the witch was Asuka rather than Nikki.
these gimmicks are always tricky and the two best guys to have made it work have been Undertaker and Kane both amongst the greats and taker easily being in the top 10 of all time. Don't if anyone among them has what it takes to translate it into good feuds and matches. For once, i'd rather keep them in cinematic matches.
 
the qr codes thing didn't really excite me much this time around. It was a novel thing last time around with bray making his return but this time it was an open secret that it was about wyatt six. But i liked the macabre presentation it was done.
For some reason, i thought Abbie the witch was Asuka rather than Nikki.
these gimmicks are always tricky and the two best guys to have made it work have been Undertaker and Kane both amongst the greats and taker easily being in the top 10 of all time. Don't if anyone among them has what it takes to translate it into good feuds and matches. For once, i'd rather keep them in cinematic matches.
Yeah it wasn't the same as last time. I actually think that the videos were cooler and more interesting the last time around too. But this still served its purpose which was to get people talking without saying anything about it directly on TV.

Yes. That is pretty much the only one that has worked. I can't really think of another one. There will be alot of smoke and mirrors with this stuff. That is to be expected. I'm fine with it as long as its interesting, doesn't insult my intelligence and doesn't involve rave lighting matches sponsored by Mountain Dew.
 
Yeah it wasn't the same as last time. I actually think that the videos were cooler and more interesting the last time around too. But this still served its purpose which was to get people talking without saying anything about it directly on TV.

Yes. That is pretty much the only one that has worked. I can't really think of another one. There will be alot of smoke and mirrors with this stuff. That is to be expected. I'm fine with it as long as its interesting, doesn't insult my intelligence and doesn't involve rave lighting matches sponsored by Mountain Dew.
which is why cinematic matches seem to be the best way forward. And none of bo-dallas, rowan, gacy or lumis are known for their in ring prowess so I doubt they'd be able to make it work either. if anything, it's lumis who's portrayed his previous character and worked accordingly with it during his nxt career.
 
I hope that he does rise to the challenge.
The weird thing with Priest was that he was pretty strong for IC title back then but inadequate for WHC yet. That doesn't take away his in ring work quality. He produced a brilliant match with Bad Bunny of all people.
Seth's return was great but it didn't really add anything. Like he just returned, cut a promo and left. Seems like he's still not cleared.
I think Priest needs to develop/flesh out his character a bit by getting involved in one on one feuds with top-level guys. He has already had the US title so giving him the IC belt would be downgrading him. He has all the tools to be a main-eventer but he isn't ready to be one just yet. He needs to breakaway from the Judgement Day too but I presume they will drag the eventual feud between him and Balor all the way to WrestleMania aswell.

It's impossible for me to care about Seth as a personality as long as he keeps doing this dumb, cringeworthy gimmick. I had some hope that maybe he would return from his injury with a fresh coat of paint, but no, its the same old sh!t. He just wants the fans to keep singing his song so he can delude himself into thinking that he is still over. He's one of the best wrestlers in the world but I have lost respect for him as a performer because he seems unwilling to go put of his comfort zone and is content just coasting by on these cheap pops.

On a show where you have guys like Punk, McIntyre, Gunther, Sami Zayn that feel real, Rollins playing this cartoon character feels badly out of place.
 
Like Roman Reigns, Damian Priest seems like someone who is probably a pretty cool guy in real life. And like Roman Reigns during his early days, it feels like Priest is being told to act and behave a certain way. They need to let him just be himself. And the first step of that is him leaving Judgement Day.
 
which is why cinematic matches seem to be the best way forward. And none of bo-dallas, rowan, gacy or lumis are known for their in ring prowess so I doubt they'd be able to make it work either. if anything, it's lumis who's portrayed his previous character and worked accordingly with it during his nxt career.
I loved some of the cinematic matches they did during the pandemic but its not really wrestling though is it? Back then they had very little options and needed to get creative. But now that's not the case. I also think that stuff like that opens the door for more hokey sh!t.
 
Damien Priest has been a great champion, it’s just his misfortune that such a spineless leader like H with a huge ego is booking him. H was never truly a major star, nor has he ever made anyone and on top of that he’s a jealous dude who is more likely to push guys who have a ceiling. The sky’s the limit with Priest but he isn’t booked like a legit star, but he keeps delivering in the ring and on the mic, just needs to be a bit more stripped back with his presentation and booked super strong, for a guy his size, not everyone should be going 50/50 with him every time either, after such a long time WWE have a versatile big guy, arguably the best since Taker but they are fumbling him a bit.

Glad to see Howdy back, that was a great segment, one thing which is Bo’s strength and it runs in his family to, is the character, so hopefully it works.

AJ has been my MVP of 2024, when given that top spot nobody can outperform him in the ring.

That Punk reveal was done amazingly well, Drew going over would be nice but the Drew/Punk story is much bigger it has casuals invested to, down the line Drew/Punk with WHC implications could be 🔥 and am glad Priest retained because he’s doing a better job then Seth ever did even with poor presentation and lack of support from a guy he doesn’t worship like Seth did
 
I think Priest needs to develop/flesh out his character a bit by getting involved in one on one feuds with top-level guys. He has already had the US title so giving him the IC belt would be downgrading him. He has all the tools to be a main-eventer but he isn't ready to be one just yet. He needs to breakaway from the Judgement Day too but I presume they will drag the eventual feud between him and Balor all the way to WrestleMania aswell.

It's impossible for me to care about Seth as a personality as long as he keeps doing this dumb, cringeworthy gimmick. I had some hope that maybe he would return from his injury with a fresh coat of paint, but no, its the same old sh!t. He just wants the fans to keep singing his song so he can delude himself into thinking that he is still over. He's one of the best wrestlers in the world but I have lost respect for him as a performer because he seems unwilling to go put of his comfort zone and is content just coasting by on these cheap pops.

On a show where you have guys like Punk, McIntyre, Gunther, Sami Zayn that feel real, Rollins playing this cartoon character feels badly out of place.
Rollins is not very creative which is why he hasn't reached the heights of roman or cody in his wwe run. His best feuds and matches have been alongside guys who can tell stories much better with ways of creating newer narratives around a standard story and match. Seems like they're going to keep Drew off air for some time now which is probably why they called an undercooked Seth back without him having do anything.
 
I loved some of the cinematic matches they did during the pandemic but its not really wrestling though is it? Back then they had very little options and needed to get creative. But now that's not the case. I also think that stuff like that opens the door for more hokey sh!t.
Cinematic matches were either hits or misses. Taker vs AJ, Cena vs Bray, Bray vs Matt were the three best ones and gargano and lumis vshayes and trick was pretty fun too.
House of horrors, bray vs braun, gargano vs ciampa and all others were pretty awful.
In AEW, sting and darby vs brian cage and the other guy was pretty good as well.
 
Damien Priest has been a great champion, it’s just his misfortune that such a spineless leader like H with a huge ego is booking him. H was never truly a major star, nor has he ever made anyone and on top of that he’s a jealous dude who is more likely to push guys who have a ceiling. The sky’s the limit with Priest but he isn’t booked like a legit star, but he keeps delivering in the ring and on the mic, just needs to be a bit more stripped back with his presentation and booked super strong, for a guy his size, not everyone should be going 50/50 with him every time either, after such a long time WWE have a versatile big guy, arguably the best since Taker but they are fumbling him a bit.

Glad to see Howdy back, that was a great segment, one thing which is Bo’s strength and it runs in his family to, is the character, so hopefully it works.

AJ has been my MVP of 2024, when given that top spot nobody can outperform him in the ring.

That Punk reveal was done amazingly well, Drew going over would be nice but the Drew/Punk story is much bigger it has casuals invested to, down the line Drew/Punk with WHC implications could be 🔥 and am glad Priest retained because he’s doing a better job then Seth ever did even with poor presentation and lack of support from a guy he doesn’t worship like Seth did
think uncle howdy is a homage/inspiration to the exorcist's captain howdy. I think everyone involved (bo dallas, Lumis, Rowan, Gacy have what it takes to drive their characters. Nikki Kross seems like a misfit there. I for once thought it was Asuka rather than Nikki
 
think uncle howdy is a homage/inspiration to the exorcist's captain howdy. I think everyone involved (bo dallas, Lumis, Rowan, Gacy have what it takes to drive their characters. Nikki Kross seems like a misfit there. I for once thought it was Asuka rather than Nikki

I think Nikki is perfect for the faction and what they are going for, she has successfully depicted an unhinged/unstable character before which did work much better in the NXT, but now I think she has a much better platform to fire on all cylinders, Alexa could have fitted in seamlessly to but we don't know when she will be back
 
Just when you think the Hardy's are done, they find a way to resurrect themselves. Or perhaps that's more an AEW problem I don't know.

I've had many positive words for what TNA are doing lately and I think they are the perfect fit for the Hardy's right now, Jeff has had his issues, but I think he needs to do what he does best in a healthy environment, if he spends too much time away from wrestling then the demons come crawling back, wrestling can help him exorcise those demons in a more stable environment. And TNA are firing on all cylinders without being too spectacular or out there, so Jeff wont hopefully feel the need to punish his body unnecessarily. The current incarnation of TNA is leaning more on character / story, whilst acknowledging its rich history. Moose has been a great world champion and this feud with the Hardy's will be money, also, give us more Reby Sky & Edwards; yes please! I enjoyed that segment at against all odds, only criticism; I didn't hear no bell!!
 
A big chunk of some of the most popular tag teams and singles stars from the black & gold era of NXT are seldom being pushed hard on the main event by H, this just reinforces what has been reiterated for some time. The black and gold era of NXT was one big project designed for H to try and put himself over in the eyes of smarks who always criticised him throughout his career, they were gullible enough to eat up his opening segments at the Takeovers where he pretended to be late 90's Heyman or the finger pointing of indie talent he had signed to the general booking style which was more about getting the events over rather then the stars and prove he could take on AEW; something he failed spectacularly at as well. During that period H never truly believed in the stars he pushed, he believed more in putting over his image and it's only now after all this time that Shawn is actually preparing the next generation properly, Vince was right in scrapping H's little NXT play thing. Maybe Vince massaged H's ego by allowing him to play with a little toy because H was onto him? who knows...
 
Did anyone ever play WCW vs the World on PS1, it can be played on the PSP, not as refined as later AKI efforts but still an interesting foundation
 
Damien Priest has been a great champion, it’s just his misfortune that such a spineless leader like H with a huge ego is booking him. H was never truly a major star, nor has he ever made anyone and on top of that he’s a jealous dude who is more likely to push guys who have a ceiling. The sky’s the limit with Priest but he isn’t booked like a legit star, but he keeps delivering in the ring and on the mic, just needs to be a bit more stripped back with his presentation and booked super strong, for a guy his size, not everyone should be going 50/50 with him every time either, after such a long time WWE have a versatile big guy, arguably the best since Taker but they are fumbling him a bit.

Glad to see Howdy back, that was a great segment, one thing which is Bo’s strength and it runs in his family to, is the character, so hopefully it works.

AJ has been my MVP of 2024, when given that top spot nobody can outperform him in the ring.

That Punk reveal was done amazingly well, Drew going over would be nice but the Drew/Punk story is much bigger it has casuals invested to, down the line Drew/Punk with WHC implications could be 🔥 and am glad Priest retained because he’s doing a better job then Seth ever did even with poor presentation and lack of support from a guy he doesn’t worship like Seth did
My respect for Priest increased tenfold in this match. The way he handled that botch/injury was the stuff of pros. And then he kayfabed it in the press scrum too, rather than going the other way like most wrestlers would have. But his run with the belt feels like that of a transitional champion. Like he is just holding the belt until its time for Gunther, Punk or Drew. Going 50/50 with Jey Uso is not how you book someone for their first World title defense. And Priest feeling like a bit of an afterthought has everything to do with the booking and presentation. Because Priest is far more developed than people give him credit for. He is not a spring chicken land has been in the business for quite some time. But this is typical HHH booking, where he books someone just well enough so no one can say that he didn't do anything with them. But not nearly the way that they should be booked for someone in the main-event.

I want to see Priest squash Rollins in 2 minutes at MITB and then hopefully Rollins can go away until he comes back with an actual gimmick instead of this clown show that we are constantly subjected to. But ofc that will never happen.
 
Damien Priest has been a great champion, it’s just his misfortune that such a spineless leader like H with a huge ego is booking him. H was never truly a major star, nor has he ever made anyone and on top of that he’s a jealous dude who is more likely to push guys who have a ceiling. The sky’s the limit with Priest but he isn’t booked like a legit star, but he keeps delivering in the ring and on the mic, just needs to be a bit more stripped back with his presentation and booked super strong, for a guy his size, not everyone should be going 50/50 with him every time either, after such a long time WWE have a versatile big guy, arguably the best since Taker but they are fumbling him a bit.

Glad to see Howdy back, that was a great segment, one thing which is Bo’s strength and it runs in his family to, is the character, so hopefully it works.

AJ has been my MVP of 2024, when given that top spot nobody can outperform him in the ring.

That Punk reveal was done amazingly well, Drew going over would be nice but the Drew/Punk story is much bigger it has casuals invested to, down the line Drew/Punk with WHC implications could be 🔥 and am glad Priest retained because he’s doing a better job then Seth ever did even with poor presentation and lack of support from a guy he doesn’t worship like Seth did
If they try to present this Wyatt Sicks stable as a creepy cult that's more Texas Chainsaw Massacre than The Exorcist then you could have something great here. But they gotta be really careful not to let this get hokey because then people will start making fun of it and it will turn into a joke that everyone laughs at. They had a goldmine on their hands with The Fiend and Vince blew it with his atrocious booking.
 
Just when you think the Hardy's are done, they find a way to resurrect themselves. Or perhaps that's more an AEW problem I don't know.

I've had many positive words for what TNA are doing lately and I think they are the perfect fit for the Hardy's right now, Jeff has had his issues, but I think he needs to do what he does best in a healthy environment, if he spends too much time away from wrestling then the demons come crawling back, wrestling can help him exorcise those demons in a more stable environment. And TNA are firing on all cylinders without being too spectacular or out there, so Jeff wont hopefully feel the need to punish his body unnecessarily. The current incarnation of TNA is leaning more on character / story, whilst acknowledging its rich history. Moose has been a great world champion and this feud with the Hardy's will be money, also, give us more Reby Sky & Edwards; yes please! I enjoyed that segment at against all odds, only criticism; I didn't hear no bell!!
As long as Jeff is not killing himself falling off ladders and going through tables, I think TNA is the best place for him. AEW was just about the worst place that he could have gone to after WWE. Even when he wasn't killing himself in the ring, he had to content with untrained chimpanzees like Sammy Guevara breaking his nose.

Speaking of which, even Matt Hardy is going after Tony Khan now lol. Matt Hardy who was one of the biggest AEW, TK and Young Bucks shills and who would be picking fights with Cornette during the pandemic. Now that teh dust has settled everyone is stating the obvious, that TK can't book for sh!t. If only they had opened their eyes when it was the unpopular thing to say and Cornette was saying. Would have saved themselves alot of strife and time.
 
More of people stating the obvious regarding TK's booking and general lack of leadership that has already created so many problems in AEW. This time its Kevin Kelly who is also suing AEW for wrongful termination lol. Will be interesting to see how that turns out. Not gonna be great for Tony, who can't stand someone saying anything negative about his company.

He’s got good people around him that he doesn’t utilize. His vision of what wrestling is, for me, works best on a small scale. People always wonder why did PWG stay small? Well they knew, I think, they knew if they went big it would go stale fast.

He wants to appeal to a niche audience with his vision of wrestling. But he thinks he can convince the people to watch on a grand scale. The other thing he’s done, he’s made himself the face of the company. He’s the one going now on TV interviews... It’s like, man, that’s not his skill set.

On the morale in AEW:

It’s the same as has been reported. What I always noticed was that there were a lot of people that were there that weren’t being used, that wanted to be used, that had creative ideas, but that weren’t getting through. So there would be a conga line of people outside Tony’s office waiting to get in to see him. And there’s nothing wrong with that.

“But I don’t ever remember a long line of wrestlers wanting to get into see Vince [McMahon], there were people to talk to, you could talk to Pat Patterson and Jerry Brisco. You could talk to a Jack Lanza, there were agents that were respected, that had Vince’s ear that could take your message and say, ‘Hey, so and so’s not happy with what’s going on.’

“And Vince would say ‘Tell him this to placate him or bring him in, and I’ll talk to him.’ And Vince then could put the Vince whammy on them and everything. You go in pissed as could be, and he ‘d come out and pat [you] on the back and shake your hand. ‘What changed?’ ‘Nothing really. I’m just happy now.
 
A big chunk of some of the most popular tag teams and singles stars from the black & gold era of NXT are seldom being pushed hard on the main event by H, this just reinforces what has been reiterated for some time. The black and gold era of NXT was one big project designed for H to try and put himself over in the eyes of smarks who always criticised him throughout his career, they were gullible enough to eat up his opening segments at the Takeovers where he pretended to be late 90's Heyman or the finger pointing of indie talent he had signed to the general booking style which was more about getting the events over rather then the stars and prove he could take on AEW; something he failed spectacularly at as well. During that period H never truly believed in the stars he pushed, he believed more in putting over his image and it's only now after all this time that Shawn is actually preparing the next generation properly, Vince was right in scrapping H's little NXT play thing. Maybe Vince massaged H's ego by allowing him to play with a little toy because H was onto him? who knows...
So far H's booking of the tag division has not been anything different from what Vince's was/would have been. Even the tag teams that were big in NXT have been booked like jobbers on the main roster. There is no 'work-rate' to speak of and the tag division does not feel like its own self-contained thing as it did on NXT. Like always, the tag belts are used as stepping stones for guys before they move on to bigger or better things, or as devices to set up feuds between two tag team partners. The only time that they meant anything was when Owens & Zayn won them at WrestleMania. And even they dropped them in short order to Judgement Day.
 
Rollins is not very creative which is why he hasn't reached the heights of roman or cody in his wwe run. His best feuds and matches have been alongside guys who can tell stories much better with ways of creating newer narratives around a standard story and match. Seems like they're going to keep Drew off air for some time now which is probably why they called an undercooked Seth back without him having do anything.
I think he is just untalented when it comes to promo/mic skills. Even before this cringe gimmick, he was either a boring, whitemeat babyface that looked and talked like any run of the mill average shmo from the Midwest. Or he was a basic af heel that was getting over because of the storylines and people he was involved with (The Shield, The Authority).

Guys like Cody and Roman were never really allowed to be themselves and suffered because of it. But Seth was given far more freedom from pretty early on because he was not Vince's project like Roman was. He was HHH's project. And when you think about it, he has never really stood out as a character and a personality. I guess there was that short period when he came back from a career-threatening injury. But that was a very situational thing.
 
I think he is just untalented when it comes to promo/mic skills. Even before this cringe gimmick, he was either a boring, whitemeat babyface that looked and talked like any run of the mill average shmo from the Midwest. Or he was a basic af heel that was getting over because of the storylines and people he was involved with (The Shield, The Authority).

Guys like Cody and Roman were never really allowed to be themselves and suffered because of it. But Seth was given far more freedom from pretty early on because he was not Vince's project like Roman was. He was HHH's project. And when you think about it, he has never really stood out as a character and a personality. I guess there was that short period when he came back from a career-threatening injury. But that was a very situational thing.
He did reach a sort of being a consistent in ring worker during his heel run in 2021-2022. (feud with Edge, Cody, Roman,Riddle). But he has failed to really evolve. He is a pretty indie minded wrestler lacking any imagination to make his matches or feuds mean more.
But he has always been a better heel than a face. He's just not very interesting or charismatic enough to engage the fans. His WHC run was pretty average considering he kept the title for almost a year.
 
Did anyone ever play WCW vs the World on PS1, it can be played on the PSP, not as refined as later AKI efforts but still an interesting foundation
nah. i just discovered marvel vs street fighter. Enjoying it instead. my psp has started turning off at times without any reason. I recently ordered a new battery hoping it will help.
 
My respect for Priest increased tenfold in this match. The way he handled that botch/injury was the stuff of pros. And then he kayfabed it in the press scrum too, rather than going the other way like most wrestlers would have. But his run with the belt feels like that of a transitional champion. Like he is just holding the belt until its time for Gunther, Punk or Drew. Going 50/50 with Jey Uso is not how you book someone for their first World title defense. And Priest feeling like a bit of an afterthought has everything to do with the booking and presentation. Because Priest is far more developed than people give him credit for. He is not a spring chicken land has been in the business for quite some time. But this is typical HHH booking, where he books someone just well enough so no one can say that he didn't do anything with them. But not nearly the way that they should be booked for someone in the main-event.

I want to see Priest squash Rollins in 2 minutes at MITB and then hopefully Rollins can go away until he comes back with an actual gimmick instead of this clown show that we are constantly subjected to. But ofc that will never happen.
Rhea's injury has done a world of good for Damian. It has helped him assume the leadership of the stable in her absence. Balor will put him over later this year probably. Otherwise he'd have been the WHC without even being the leader of his own stable.
 
nah. i just discovered marvel vs street fighter. Enjoying it instead. my psp has started turning off at times without any reason. I recently ordered a new battery hoping it will help.
Where did you order the battery from? Currently in the process of trying to bring my PSP back to life as well
 
As long as Jeff is not killing himself falling off ladders and going through tables, I think TNA is the best place for him. AEW was just about the worst place that he could have gone to after WWE. Even when he wasn't killing himself in the ring, he had to content with untrained chimpanzees like Sammy Guevara breaking his nose.

Speaking of which, even Matt Hardy is going after Tony Khan now lol. Matt Hardy who was one of the biggest AEW, TK and Young Bucks shills and who would be picking fights with Cornette during the pandemic. Now that teh dust has settled everyone is stating the obvious, that TK can't book for sh!t. If only they had opened their eyes when it was the unpopular thing to say and Cornette was saying. Would have saved themselves alot of strife and time.
But that definitely exposes Matt as a hypocrite that he is.
 
He did reach a sort of being a consistent in ring worker during his heel run in 2021-2022. (feud with Edge, Cody, Roman,Riddle). But he has failed to really evolve. He is a pretty indie minded wrestler lacking any imagination to make his matches or feuds mean more.
But he has always been a better heel than a face. He's just not very interesting or charismatic enough to engage the fans. His WHC run was pretty average considering he kept the title for almost a year.
Not going to say anything bad about his work in the ring. Despite some indie flashes (buckle bomb, falcon arrow), his work in the ring is crisp and the consistency and quality is never in question. But yeah I agree. When you compare him to his peers, his failure to evolve as a character really stands out. Of all the members of The Shield, Mox was the only one who got the personality and character aspect right away.
 
So far H's booking of the tag division has not been anything different from what Vince's was/would have been. Even the tag teams that were big in NXT have been booked like jobbers on the main roster. There is no 'work-rate' to speak of and the tag division does not feel like its own self-contained thing as it did on NXT. Like always, the tag belts are used as stepping stones for guys before they move on to bigger or better things, or as devices to set up feuds between two tag team partners. The only time that they meant anything was when Owens & Zayn won them at WrestleMania. And even they dropped them in short order to Judgement Day.
NXT tag teams have been hard to get over among the casual fans.

I was enjoying the viking raiders vs alpha academy feud. it was good fun.
 
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