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Markhor said:
"That is not in our DNA"

Damn, AA delivered by Cena. Respect goes up for him.
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Fair play to him but......

Cena just gained 1.6 billion more fans Markhor, Vince is going to have him as the top guy of the company for another 50 years :))
 
shaz619 said:
I miss Sami Zayn :(

RAW was awful as usual lets focus on the few positivesl; highlights were the opening segment where different factions fought in a 16 man elimination tag (bah gawd best go home show for Survivor Series ever) although it was incredibly depressing to see Wyatt Family get buried yet again, The tease of Charlotte's potential heel turn which could be pivotal for her career, Paige's brilliant mic work and the final segment between Reigns/Sheamus it was pretty hilarious lmao and Sheamus was excellent once again on the mic. Don't think Roman should be talking so much and he needs to cut out the jokes
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Another issue with RAW was the fact that the champion was pinned in the tag match; it doesn't sit well with me. Sheamus shouldn't lose clean even though he's a heel there are other ways, no DQ/Countout etc or have someone else take the fall. Also, in the main-event segment what was the point of having the League of Nations if they couldn't back Sheamus up? the point of having them is to protect the champion :facepalm: it was a okay segment which could have been better if they limited Romans lines and all the jokes; should have had a mini exchange with Sheamus going for Roman with the League coming into back him up.
 
shaz619 said:
I think I might have seen that one already. Yeah me to; kayfabe is dead anyway so it doesn't matter giving us an insight into the journeys of these people and not just the "wrestler" obviously you got to protect someone like Bray Wyatt though. Anyway am getting really depressed watching WWE lately and seeing Bray get buried every week it hurts my feelings; I might just quit for good but I like to see the stuff they do which is decent at times but the product as a whole is awful. How they are burying Bray epitomizes everything that is wrong with the WWE. When he came out on RAW the crowd popped and were chanting YES! but then it turns out he interupted the league of nations for no reason :facepalm: I was getting ready to mark out thought he was going to feud with Sheamus at some point for the world title or give Sheamus a sought of warning but the dudleys came out and the Wyatts ended up jobbing to tommy dreamer
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I didn't get why The Wyatts got eliminated first in the opening Tag Team mayhem :facepalm:

looks like Vince is again high on his horse and wants to promote LON and Reignz bros :facepalm:

but I think 2016 will be the year the Wyatts will finally get the much deserving break.

Did you see the New Day tag match, Xavier getting beat up by USOS and then crying in the ring reminded me of School times where a kids provoking a big guy for no reason and then getting smashed by him only to cry like on the floor in the end :))) :))) it was classic and New Day "Saving Cat from Tree" act :))) :)))

and what do you think about the Main Event, I enjoyed it. It confirmed that their match will be a good ol classic Hardcore match. I'm excited about it :amir
 
shaz619 said:
Another issue with RAW was the fact that the champion was pinned in the tag match; it doesn't sit well with me. Sheamus shouldn't lose clean even though he's a heel there are other ways, no DQ/Countout etc or have someone else take the fall. Also, in the main-event segment what was the point of having the League of Nations if they couldn't back Sheamus up? the point of having them is to protect the champion :facepalm: it was a okay segment which could have been better if they limited Romans lines and all the jokes; should have had a mini exchange with Sheamus going for Roman with the League coming into back him up.
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I agree but at least he was pinned by the Challenger and not some random mid carder. Though the ending was really good.

and didn't you know Sami is coming at Takeover. Have you bought the tickets ?
 
dashing_man said:
I agree but at least he was pinned by the Challenger and not some random mid carder. Though the ending was really good.

and didn't you know Sami is coming at Takeover. Have you bought the tickets ?
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He shouldn't be pinned at all, also it makes no sense since they are having the match at TLC; they may as well not have the match at TLC and hand Roman the belt already if they are going to have him pin the champion clean gives us no reason to continue the feud. I never managed to get tickets for Takeover plus my mate doesn't follow NXT, I would have gone but have no one to go with. My bro likes it but he doesn't like travelling far.
 
dashing_man said:
Cena you beauty :ghalib

though I think Cena will from now only put over talents. I hope he only does that and then win the majestic 16th or 17th in his last match
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They should have Ric come out of retirement and Challenge Cena when he goes for the 16th, have the nature boy go over and claim his 17th championship. Cena is going to break the record but the Flair record is too special for me no one is fit to pass that record imo but tbh that's WWE's official number; Flair won more world championships then 16
 
shaz619 said:
He shouldn't be pinned at all, also it makes no sense since they are having the match at TLC; they may as well not have the match at TLC and hand Roman the belt already if they are going to have him pin the champion clean gives us no reason to continue the feud. I never managed to get tickets for Takeover plus my mate doesn't follow NXT, I would have gone but have no one to go with. My bro likes it but he doesn't like travelling far.
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I don't think Reigns is going to win the title anytime soon. He's going to be dragged away from the title picture and have a feud with Haitch which will lead to their clash at Mania. I hope Hunter buries him for the lulz
 
dashing_man said:
I didn't get why The Wyatts got eliminated first in the opening Tag Team mayhem :facepalm:

looks like Vince is again high on his horse and wants to promote LON and Reignz bros :facepalm:

but I think 2016 will be the year the Wyatts will finally get the much deserving break.

Did you see the New Day tag match, Xavier getting beat up by USOS and then crying in the ring reminded me of School times where a kids provoking a big guy for no reason and then getting smashed by him only to cry like on the floor in the end :))) :))) it was classic and New Day "Saving Cat from Tree" act :))) :)))

and what do you think about the Main Event, I enjoyed it. It confirmed that their match will be a good ol classic Hardcore match. I'm excited about it :amir
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I doubt it, plus Bray is a nice guy he does what he is told; you won't see him telling creative to stop messing him about. In the pro-wrestling business you need to be selfish sometimes, it's the advice Rock gave to Brock Lesnar (remember Lesnar on the network getting all emotional, The Rock said you need to be selfish but he wasn't selfish that night at summerSlam he wasn't selfish :)) )

The New Day stole the show :))) that would be mine, yours and Adils faction if we were in the WWE :)))

I said from the start am excited for the match at TLC it should be good but the build could have been better, don't know what creative are thinking. They've let Roman and Sheamus down big time, having said that Sheamus performance in the last few weeks have been brilliant as a character
 
shaz619 said:
They should have Ric come out of retirement and Challenge Cena when he goes for the 16th, have the nature boy go over and claim his 17th championship. Cena is going to break the record but the Flair record is too special for me no one is fit to pass that record imo but tbh that's WWE's official number; Flair won more world championships then 16
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that record is for us fans remembering Ric, its really personal to us that no one breaks that record but I think they will let China break the record. Flair wont be wrestling anyone lol, I bet he will be in his corner because dammit he needs to make China appealing and not let crowd booo the hell out of him
 
dashing_man said:
I don't think Reigns is going to win the title anytime soon. He's going to be dragged away from the title picture and have a feud with Haitch which will lead to their clash at Mania. I hope Hunter buries him for the lulz
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I know he's not going to win it either but that doesn't mean they make Sheamus look like sh!t he is the champion. Yeah probably but I doubt it, HHH is no longer in burying mode :facepalm: for once I miss the shovel :))) hunter is going to put Roman over.
 
dashing_man said:
that record is for us fans remembering Ric, its really personal to us that no one breaks that record but I think they will let China break the record. Flair wont be wrestling anyone lol, I bet he will be in his corner because dammit he needs to make China appealing and not let crowd booo the hell out of him
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would be epic if Ric came out with a Gun to shoot Cena before he could pin the wrestler to win the 16th champion ship :))) can you imagine ric shooting and then blowing the smoke from his pistol doing the strut and shouting WOOOO! :))) Cena probably get to 20 world titles. Crowd will boo the hell out of him lmao no one can stop that, have you seen Ric Flairs HOF speech? fans gave him a standing ovation for like 20 minutes before he could even speak that's what he means to us and the industry. Ric put wrestling on the map.
 
shaz619 said:
I doubt it, plus Bray is a nice guy he does what he is told; you won't see him telling creative to stop messing him about. In the pro-wrestling business you need to be selfish sometimes, it's the advice Rock gave to Brock Lesnar (remember Lesnar on the network getting all emotional, The Rock said you need to be selfish but he wasn't selfish that night at summerSlam he wasn't selfish :)) )

The New Day stole the show :))) that would be mine, yours and Adils faction if we were in the WWE :)))

I said from the start am excited for the match at TLC it should be good but the build could have been better, don't know what creative are thinking. They've let Roman and Sheamus down big time, having said that Sheamus performance in the last few weeks have been brilliant as a character
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Sheamus promos have been even better, he really told a lot about his character in that promo with Renee. That's the side Sheamus should always bring to the table. Reigns won't matter much, Sheamus alone can make this build up even better

Vince is a complete retard if doesn't see the storylines in Wyatt and the feuds. he's mad if he sees them as mid carders :facepalm: Vince can make him Ministry 2.0 and run away with it. Bray needs to step up to Vince now, maybe Hunter is taking under his wing and trying to work him up. Who knows. You see Neville, KO, Rusev all Haitch boys getting more time and storylines. So I think Wyatts will get the deserved break next year. I think it would be best if Bray wins the Royal Rumble, don't you think. Imagine Bryan is the no.30 entry, the crowd goes beserk. They know this is their time, its finally happening after 3 years of whining, Bryan going to win the big one after all and BAM!! Bray comes in and tosses the goat out of the ring :))) :))) imagine the pop :)))
 
shaz619 said:
would be epic if Ric came out with a Gun to shoot Cena before he could pin the wrestler to win the 16th champion ship :))) can you imagine ric shooting and then blowing the smoke from his pistol doing the strut and shouting WOOOO! :))) Cena probably get to 20 world titles. Crowd will boo the hell out of him lmao no one can stop that, have you seen Ric Flairs HOF speech? fans gave him a standing ovation for like 20 minutes before he could even speak that's what he means to us and the industry. Ric put wrestling on the map.
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yeah i've seen his HOF speach. Naitch broke the time for the longest ovation, previously hold by Hogan you remember that one when he returned as Hulkamania and not Mr. America :))) :))) dammit he had me fooled too, I couldnt see until he removed his mask that it was Hulk Hogan all along :))) :)))
 
dashing_man said:
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yeah i've seen his HOF speach. Naitch broke the time for the longest ovation, previously hold by Hogan you remember that one when he returned as Hulkamania and not Mr. America :))) :))) dammit he had me fooled too, I couldnt see until he removed his mask that it was Hulk Hogan all along :))) :)))
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:))) :))) :))) :))) I REMEMBER THAT ANGLE lmao I knew it was Hogan but I WAS SO CONFUSED :)))

I only listened to bits of it, will need to listen to Hogans. Austins was too short unfortunately because of the stupid time contraints and someone had gone longer then they should have but he still managed to say as much as he needed to; can you imagine what it will be like when the Rock is inducted or Kurt Angle? :))
 
dashing_man said:
Sheamus promos have been even better, he really told a lot about his character in that promo with Renee. That's the side Sheamus should always bring to the table. Reigns won't matter much, Sheamus alone can make this build up even better

Vince is a complete retard if doesn't see the storylines in Wyatt and the feuds. he's mad if he sees them as mid carders :facepalm: Vince can make him Ministry 2.0 and run away with it. Bray needs to step up to Vince now, maybe Hunter is taking under his wing and trying to work him up. Who knows. You see Neville, KO, Rusev all Haitch boys getting more time and storylines. So I think Wyatts will get the deserved break next year. I think it would be best if Bray wins the Royal Rumble, don't you think. Imagine Bryan is the no.30 entry, the crowd goes beserk. They know this is their time, its finally happening after 3 years of whining, Bryan going to win the big one after all and BAM!! Bray comes in and tosses the goat out of the ring :))) :))) imagine the pop :)))
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Sheamus is no Bray Wyatt and he needs support to, he can't carry an entire feud alone. Anyhow creative have let him and Reigns down, but the postive to come out of it all is that Sheamus has been able to show us some personality.

I know Bray really can be the next Undertaker but I don't really know what to say....would be epic if he won the Rumble but unlikely. I love Bryan and am a big fan but I wouldn't mind Bray eliminating him to win the Rumble, the heat he'd get would be NUCLEAR level :))) plus it would be someone who deserves it after a long time
 
shaz619 said:
:))) :))) :))) :))) I REMEMBER THAT ANGLE lmao I knew it was Hogan but I WAS SO CONFUSED :)))

I only listened to bits of it, will need to listen to Hogans. Austins was too short unfortunately because of the stupid time contraints and someone had gone longer then they should have but he still managed to say as much as he needed to; can you imagine what it will be like when the Rock is inducted or Kurt Angle? :))
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Hogan didn't got that ovation at his HOF, he got that on the SD he returned to WWE as Hulk Hogan :))

and yeah, I can imagine ROCKY ROCKY ROCKY ROCKY going forever and Angle one would be special I bet, lets hope they don't chant You Suck :)) as a safety precaution, Angle should come out with the New Day instead with a Diva. The New Day will help him turn Suck into Rock :)))
 
dashing_man said:
Hogan didn't got that ovation at his HOF, he got that on the SD he returned to WWE as Hulk Hogan :))

and yeah, I can imagine ROCKY ROCKY ROCKY ROCKY going forever and Angle one would be special I bet, lets hope they don't chant You Suck :)) as a safety precaution, Angle should come out with the New Day instead with a Diva. The New Day will help him turn Suck into Rock :)))
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You mean when Smackdown was in London last year?

It would be hilarious Kurt getting sarcastic you suck chants for 20 minutes :))) Kurt loves those chants :))) I bet he misses them, remember when he returned from injury (the lesnar shooting star press somehow injured kurt more then it did Lesnar :))) )

You never got it you know those chants they were sarcastic :)) and depending on whether Kurt was a baby face or heel he'd react accordingly

 
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I marked out when HHH came out wasn't expecting it man I was screaming like a fangirl it was an epic moment :)) Man I wish that Triple H was back, hate this Authority douchebag in a suit.
 
shaz619 said:
You mean when Smackdown was in London last year?

It would be hilarious Kurt getting sarcastic you suck chants for 20 minutes :))) Kurt loves those chants :))) I bet he misses them, remember when he returned from injury (the lesnar shooting star press somehow injured kurt more then it did Lesnar :))) )

You never got it you know those chants they were sarcastic :)) and depending on whether Kurt was a baby face or heel he'd react accordingly

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Yeah Kurt loves those chants, probably will thank Edge :))
 
shaz619 said:
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I marked out when HHH came out wasn't expecting it man I was screaming like a fangirl it was an epic moment :)) Man I wish that Triple H was back, hate this Authority douchebag in a suit.
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I was really hoping Hunter will takeover after Rollins injury, man how brilliant RAW would be right now :afaq
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] watch this


Ric Flair "They'll have this promo in divorce court for me, next month! WOOO!" :))) :)))
 
dashing_man said:

Yeah Kurt loves those chants, probably will thank Edge :))
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Hogan was super over in Canada I never got why because he never put Bret over despite the hitman complaining a million times and bad mouthing the hulkster over the years :))) watch rock v hogan in the skydome in canada that match defines pro-wrestling :))
 
shaz619 said:
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I marked out when HHH came out wasn't expecting it man I was screaming like a fangirl it was an epic moment :)) Man I wish that Triple H was back, hate this Authority douchebag in a suit.
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dude my big bro is a HUGE!! haitch fan girl. He screamed soo loud after that theme hit that it woke up my father who was sleeping in his room down the hallway :))) :))) go some words of great wisdom from him after that :))) :))) had to shut down the stream :)))
 
shaz619 said:
Hogan was super over in Canada I never got why because he never put Bret over despite the hitman complaining a million times and bad mouthing the hulkster over the years :))) watch rock v hogan in the skydome in canada that match defines pro-wrestling :))
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Canadians are the most bizzare people in the world, they cheer for wrong guys and boo the good ones :))) :)))

Jericho had a homecoming during his feuds with Cena and they were booing him :))) :)))

and am sure there's a romantic love side btw HBK and canadians, they tease each others like lovers do everyone now and then :)))
 
dashing_man said:
Canadians are the most bizzare people in the world, they cheer for wrong guys and boo the good ones :))) :)))

Jericho had a homecoming during his feuds with Cena and they were booing him :))) :)))

and am sure there's a romantic love side btw HBK and canadians, they tease each others like lovers do everyone now and then :)))
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There was nothing romantic about the nuclear heat HBK got in 05.

That was pure hatred out there.
 
Btw anyone check Dolph Ziggler's promo ?

Seems like a work but was mostly unscripted.

Shows how underrated he is and how much the creative ruined him.
 
leatherface58 said:
Btw anyone check Dolph Ziggler's promo ?

Seems like a work but was mostly unscripted.

Shows how underrated he is and how much the creative ruined him.
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the fallout promo ? yeah it was good until they send in Breeze. Dolph should've beaten him up
 
dashing_man said:
the fallout promo ? yeah it was good until they send in Breeze. Dolph should've beaten him up
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Breeze reminds me of the cocky, brash HBK who used to have Diesel with him. He is also a good wrestler, can cut a good promo. Difficult to truly hate him though he is a good heel.

They need to allow truly nasty acts like men hitting women in WWE. I know it makes me sound sexist but it's make-believe anyway. Imagine Kevin Owens powerbombing Renee Young into a table from the stage. The kind of heat he will get.

Or Dolph superkicking an interfering Summer Rae.

Or better yet, Roman Reigns doling out a superman punch to Stephanie McMahon.

Now I would see that. :D
 
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Breeze reminds me of the cocky, brash HBK who used to have Diesel with him. He is also a good wrestler, can cut a good promo. Difficult to truly hate him though he is a good heel.

They need to allow truly nasty acts like men hitting women in WWE. I know it makes me sound sexist but it's make-believe anyway. Imagine Kevin Owens powerbombing Renee Young into a table from the stage. The kind of heat he will get.

Or Dolph superkicking an interfering Summer Rae.

Or better yet, Roman Reigns doling out a superman punch to Stephanie McMahon.

Now I would see that. :D
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that will never be allowed in PG era. Baah Gawwd why do you want to see women get beat up :))) thats extreme man

and Breeze is a very good recipe for a lifetime heel. Do you know he made his character from the famous Gorgeous George
 
dashing_man said:
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that will never be allowed in PG era. Baah Gawwd why do you want to see women get beat up :))) thats extreme man

and Breeze is a very good recipe for a lifetime heel. Do you know he made his character from the famous Gorgeous George
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Hey I grew up in an era where Kane tombstoned Linda McMahon, Vince damn near choked Stephanie out with a lead pipe, Lesnar tortured a one-legged man and other anti-PC stuff.

Imagine Owens cutting a promo, then suddenly looking at the camera and saying, "Parents now is the time to send your kids to their rooms".

He then proceeds to hit a package piledriver on Lillian Garcia for no reason.

You don't need words like a## and blading to be edgy. You need cold blooded heels which truly transcend the monster heel role. It puts the faces over even more since the stakes are raised.

Owens is so neutered. I can see him thriving in the ruthless aggression era.

Imagine Rusev after losing to Cena at Payback, argues with Lana and locks her in the camel clutch. Instant ratings.

WWE need to do something truly unexpected. Even if it means controversy, it can only mean ratings.
 
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Hey I grew up in an era where Kane tombstoned Linda McMahon, Vince damn near choked Stephanie out with a lead pipe, Lesnar tortured a one-legged man and other anti-PC stuff.

Imagine Owens cutting a promo, then suddenly looking at the camera and saying, "Parents now is the time to send your kids to their rooms".

He then proceeds to hit a package piledriver on Lillian Garcia for no reason.

You don't need words like a## and blading to be edgy. You need cold blooded heels which truly transcend the monster heel role. It puts the faces over even more since the stakes are raised.

Owens is so neutered. I can see him thriving in the ruthless aggression era.

Imagine Rusev after losing to Cena at Payback, argues with Lana and locks her in the camel clutch. Instant ratings.

WWE need to do something truly unexpected. Even if it means controversy, it can only mean ratings.
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AE was my best time as a fan. experiencing that much violence, twist and shocking events. We all want that again. But until they change their PG label, that's only a dream :(
X-Pac tweeted the other day that during Hogain era in 80s, the fans thought there can't be anything better than this. Then game the AE and fans loved it more, now fans saying there can't be anything better than AE but I'm sure soon PG will be deemed as the best era.

I agree with him as long as the story lines and build up makes sense. You don't need gore, violence and sex drama to make you look good. TNA is a live example of this, they are down the sink hole because of one thing only. Poor story lines, scripts and build ups. Sadly WWE is going down that same path for the last 2-3 years. and the problem I see is Vince McMahon. Its simple, he needs to retire and make Hunter in charge. Maybe he will do that in 2016. I did read somewhere that Vince gave Hunter NXT to see how he does and Hunter has been mighty successful with NXT.

I hope Vince finally says goodbye and give the throne to someone fresh and worthy aka Hunter. Bright Future is still what I see
 
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Mate i am starting to like Shoomus :))) What the fig! :)))
 
I feel happy for Shoomus. He had his moment finally. Good hard working athlete, not hard to do business with. I think we have a nice heel champ in him finally. Who would have thought of such a turn around like an year ago? Full marks to the creatives, for once.
 
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Mate i am starting to like Shoomus :))) What the fig! :)))
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freelance_cricketer said:
I feel happy for Shoomus. He had his moment finally. Good hard working athlete, not hard to do business with. I think we have a nice heel champ in him finally. Who would have thought of such a turn around like an year ago? Full marks to the creatives, for once.
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YES! YES! YES! Finally there's someone who shares my enthusiasm. That promo was epic, best in 2015 :))) Sheamus 5:15 just kicked yoo batty :))) He's got a Tee Shirt of it to. I always hated how Sheamus got the short end of the stick from fans, you have everyone sympathising with your zigglers when Sheamus has suffered from being booked like a jobber while creative have always buried his character or given him absolute garbage to work with. If you give Sheamus a bit of creative leeway, don't overly script him he will deliver because he has the ability to be a great mic worker. Am really enjoying this Troll Sheamus it's a bit of a dark comedic arrogant/cocky heel. I hope his character continues to develop and they book him strong but unfortunately they are using him as a transitional champion though. Imagine they protected this sheamus and had him go on a winning streak FC while his character continued to develop, then have Brock win the Rumble to challenge Sheamus in the Main Event of Wrestlemania; that's an instant Match of the Year Candidate given their styles
 
shaz619 said:
YES! YES! YES! Finally there's someone who shares my enthusiasm. That promo was epic, best in 2015 :))) Sheamus 5:15 just kicked yoo batty :))) He's got a Tee Shirt of it to. I always hated how Sheamus got the short end of the stick from fans, you have everyone sympathising with your zigglers when Sheamus has suffered from being booked like a jobber while creative have always buried his character or given him absolute garbage to work with. If you give Sheamus a bit of creative leeway, don't overly script him he will deliver because he has the ability to be a great mic worker. Am really enjoying this Troll Sheamus it's a bit of a dark comedic arrogant/cocky heel. I hope his character continues to develop and they book him strong but unfortunately they are using him as a transitional champion though. Imagine they protected this sheamus and had him go on a winning streak FC while his character continued to develop, then have Brock win the Rumble to challenge Sheamus in the Main Event of Wrestlemania; that's an instant Match of the Year Candidate given their styles
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Shoomus is having a Shoaib Malik style return. Don't think anyone saw this coming. He's clearly a much smarter personality than we thought he was lol this is already my best segment of the year :))) Hips don't lie baby )))
 
Also Shout out to Kofi Kingston. He never made it as a high flying black bigger rey mysterio lol but the funny arrogant heel Kofy might just be the MAN sometime in near future!
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Shoomus is having a Shoaib Malik style return. Don't think anyone saw this coming. He's clearly a much smarter personality than we thought he was lol this is already my best segment of the year :))) Hips don't lie baby )))
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:))) I like the way he said "Sheamuuuuuuuuuuus!" I always have backed him and felt he'd do a brilliant job as a heel providing creative give him the correct character because the guy can talk, but now he has shown us that he can possibly develop into something special as a character and has displayed versatility on the mic which we didn't see coming. I really hope creative back him, Russev is another underutilized talent who is a brilliant All rounder
 
RAW ratings continue the "Worst since 199x" trend. How far will things go before they decide to shake things up...
 
As noted, this week’s edition of WWE Raw, which was the go-home show for WWE TLC this weekend, averaged 3.054 million viewers, which is down from last week’s 3.17 million viewership average.

The final rating for this week’s show was a 2.15 rating, also down from last week’s 2.21.

This week’s show set a new record-low rating for WWE Raw since the show moved permanently to three hours. The previous low was the 11/23/15 edition of Raw, which finished with a 2.16 rating. This week’s show is also the lowest rated episode of Raw since September of 1997.


[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] How does Vinces mind work? will there be a shake up? I personally doubt it; the WWE stock value has not suffered is the excuse being used by NBC and WWE to defend the poor ratings
 
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The good old days. I miss Austin and heel Taker. :(
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Best AE segment ever :))) That was Undertakers greatest run imo absolutely loved him as the leader of the Ministry and his mic work was brilliant. Those unprotected chair shots were brutal
 
[MENTION=95766]leatherface58[/MENTION] did you see my post where I suggested that just before Cena is about to win his 16th Championship have Ric Flair interfere and shoot him, then he blows the smoke from his pistol and proceeds to strut while WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!ing all over the ring. Am I in tune with your vision to boost the ratings sir :)))
 
shaz619 said:
Best AE segment ever :))) That was Undertakers greatest run imo absolutely loved him as the leader of the Ministry and his mic work was brilliant. Those unprotected chair shots were brutal
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Lol look at how innocent Stephanie looked in that segment. :)))
 
[MENTION=137419]dashing_man[/MENTION] yeah that's the biggest issue more then anything, lack of consistent episodic TV, logical booking and storylines which make sense with compelling characters. It's PG but these factors are still missing from the product today so we can't really use the "it's not TV-14 or TV-MA" excuse. Doesn't matter what era you are in the basics are the same.
 
The_KING said:
Lol look at how innocent Stephanie looked in that segment. :)))
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I think that was the segment which turned HHH on and he decided to ask the Undertaker for her rishta (TRUE STORY by the way) :))) :)))
 
shaz619 said:
I think that was the segment which turned HHH on and he decided to ask the Undertaker for her rishta (TRUE STORY by the way) :))) :)))
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Lol I know. I read somewhere that HHH asked Taker's advice before dating Stephanie.
 
The_KING said:
Lol I know. I read somewhere that HHH asked Taker's advice before dating Stephanie.
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When you're going to be doing something like that it's bound to rub people up the wrong way, HHH just needed Takers approval and the rest would take care of itself :)) Undertaker was cool about it but just said to him be prepared to take a lot of heat
 
dashing_man said:
ufff look at Mommy [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] :hafeez2
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[MENTION=138670]The_KING[/MENTION] I love how the Ministry of Darkness use to go after the heels and babyfaces :))) :)))
 
dashing_man said:
The Wyatts are doing that. They are targeting heels and faces but the problem is Creative is burying them :facepalm:
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Nope who are these people? I've not seen them in the WWE yet. A friend of mine called Shovel speaks about them all the time though.
 
shaz619 said:
:( :( :( :( such a shame they don't have anyone quiet like that, they just don't exist and creative have not uncovered them yet.

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They made their debut over 2 years ago and they are still in the same position that they were when they made their debut. In fact they have got worse. I was really big on Wyatt a year ago but thanks to WWE's rubbish rubbish, I now find him quite boring and stale.
 
dashing_man said:
which friend, check your twitter DM for the answer :)))
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This guy is proper nasty [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] sending me pictures of a nanga dude with his ....out, you're going on block you jobber
 
The_KING said:
They made their debut over 2 years ago and they are still in the same position that they were when they made their debut. In fact they have got worse. I was really big on Wyatt a year ago but thanks to WWE's rubbish rubbish, I now find him quite boring and stale.
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It's incredibly depressing to see one of the GOAT mic workers in history get treated like absolute skum. It's really depressing, if this Wyatt burial continues I will quit watching for good because I can't bare to see such a talented wrestler get the short end of the stick every time despite how hard he has worked. The guy has been around long enough, does what is asked of him; has paid his dues, jobbed to Cena and Taker without a fuss etc what else do they want from him? and he's such a nice guy that he never complains and just goes about his business. Punk had to test his value to the WWE in order to get a push Wyatt has to do the same or else he's going to be a mid-carder for a long time
 
shaz619 said:
This guy is proper nasty [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] sending me pictures of a nanga dude with his ....out, you're going on block you jobber
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you're lying you tool Ast. :facepalm:

he's lying [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION]
 
dashing_man said:
you're lying you tool Ast. :facepalm:

he's lying [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION]
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You told me to check my twitter DM and revealed a disturbing image of a man swear on your moms life that it's not true :))) you're are absolutely disgusting and I have no issue screenshoting the URL you sent me to show all these people what a disgusting ghandoo you are

[MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION]
 
shaz619 said:
This guy is proper nasty [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] sending me pictures of a nanga dude with his ....out, you're going on block you jobber
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Kasme Eugene say kusra eh. Why did he do that.

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Adil_94 said:
Kasme Eugene say kusra eh. Why did he do that.

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I have no idea he is such a ghandah, there is another disturbing message he sent to me in reference to you :))) am not sure if I should humiliated him on twitter for it; am contemplating whether I should or not...it's the kind of burial people don't come back from :)))
 
shaz619 said:
You told me to check my twitter DM and revealed a disturbing image of a man swear on your moms life that it's not true :))) you're are absolutely disgusting and I have no issue screenshoting the URL you sent me to show all these people what a disgusting ghandoo you are

[MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION]
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its not disturbing, its funny :amir
 
shaz619 said:
I have no idea he is such a ghandah, there is another disturbing message he sent to me in reference to you :))) am not sure if I should humiliated him on twitter for it; am contemplating whether I should or not...it's the kind of burial people don't come back from :)))
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Hahaha if u want to spare eugenes baysti just DM me the message.

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shaz619 said:
I have no idea he is such a ghandah, there is another disturbing message he sent to me in reference to you :))) am not sure if I should humiliated him on twitter for it; am contemplating whether I should or not...it's the kind of burial people don't come back from :)))
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liar, tell [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] about it. He's lying Adil, what a fool

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Adil_94 said:
Hahaha if u want to spare eugenes baysti just DM me the message.

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I have to bury him before the Millions :))) it will be best for business and make the latest episode of twitter very entertaining; watch this space I shall be releasing it on the eve of Christmas [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]
 
shaz619 said:
I have to bury him before the Millions :))) it will be best for business and make the latest episode of twitter very entertaining; watch this space I shall be releasing it on the eve of Christmas [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]
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Damn the suspense has been set by Shaz. You are giving it the good old fashioned build up.

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Adil_94 said:
Damn the suspense has been set by Shaz. You are giving it the good old fashioned build up.

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we're all in for the long build, the pay off will be worth it! by the end of the night ya'll gonna be like WHAT A MANOEUVRE! :))) Eugene will be losing his smile once and for all
 
shaz619 said:
we're all in for the long build, the pay off will be worth it! by the end of the night ya'll gonna be like WHAT A MANOEUVRE! :))) Eugene will be losing his smile once and for all
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Bah gawd Eugene is broken in half somebody stop the damn match.

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[MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] the root of the story will surround Eugene's infamous ban; while we were campaigning against this injustice given our need for jobbers I will be revealing footage of comments Eugene made in reference to one of our main-eventers around here [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION], there will be additional leaks but that's just a preview folks! you can find out even more just for the price of 619.99 on Shazy Bear Network...just kidding ya'all can witness the massacre for free on trial, just make sure you change your email address wink wink wink wink @ Adil and Talha :yk
 
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