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Strong reports of Godlberg very close to signing again with the WWE. Finally a bit more excitement since the Brock Lesnar return.

Finally a dream triple threat match of Brock, Goldberg and Batista may just happen
 
SchoolBoy said:
Strong reports of Godlberg very close to signing again with the WWE. Finally a bit more excitement since the Brock Lesnar return.

Finally a dream triple threat match of Brock, Goldberg and Batista may just happen
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Batista wasn't happy about how his most recent run ended so that's highly unlikely plus his hollywood career has taken off and he's pretty busy, Lesnar v Goldberg 2 will most definitely happen though...
 
shaz619 said:
Batista wasn't happy about how his most recent run ended so that's highly unlikely plus his hollywood career has taken off and he's pretty busy, Lesnar v Goldberg 2 will most definitely happen though...
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IMO WWE got it completely wrong. Batista should not have been booked to win the Royal Rumble. One of The biggest mistakes WWE creative made since its inception. It pretty much ruined two excellent characters in Roman Reigns and Batista.

Just imagine if Roman Reigns won the Royal Rumble that year, he would not have been boeed because he gave the crowed what they would have wanted at the right time. Batista should have been there in the Rumble till the end with D Bryan and actually being eliminated by him or Reigns. Although there are mere speculations now when we look back at it, but that RR was certainly one of the biggest turning points in WWE History of who will get over with the fans and who will never be over
 
shaz619 said:
Batista wasn't happy about how his most recent run ended so that's highly unlikely plus his hollywood career has taken off and he's pretty busy, Lesnar v Goldberg 2 will most definitely happen though...
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IMO WWE got it completely wrong. Batista should not have been booked to win the Royal Rumble. One of The biggest mistakes WWE creative made since its inception. It pretty much ruined two excellent characters in Roman Reigns and Batista.

Just imagine if Roman Reigns won the Royal Rumble that year, he would not have been boeed because he gave the crowed what they would have wanted at the right time. Batista should have been there in the Rumble till the end with D Bryan and actually being eliminated by him or Reigns. Although there are mere speculations now when we look back at it, but that RR was certainly one of the biggest turning points in WWE History of who will get over with the fans and who will never be over
 
I think Batista has a future in the Business as a chief enforcer of the Authority or Vince. He can still do a good job as heel and draw crowds. WWE can also look to make a Rock v Batista match
 
SchoolBoy said:
IMO WWE got it completely wrong. Batista should not have been booked to win the Royal Rumble. One of The biggest mistakes WWE creative made since its inception. It pretty much ruined two excellent characters in Roman Reigns and Batista.

Just imagine if Roman Reigns won the Royal Rumble that year, he would not have been boeed because he gave the crowed what they would have wanted at the right time. Batista should have been there in the Rumble till the end with D Bryan and actually being eliminated by him or Reigns. Although there are mere speculations now when we look back at it, but that RR was certainly one of the biggest turning points in WWE History of who will get over with the fans and who will never be over
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I don't think Reigns not winning that Rumble where Batsita won was a big problem, what messed up his perception was including Daniel Bryan in the Royal Rumble the following year. WWE had no intention of having Bryan win so it defeated the purpose of including him especially after how hostile the fans became the previous year.

Reigns is a performer who has significantly improved all round now, assuming he did win the one where Batista won am not sure his place at the top would have been well received in the long run because the guy was still green in the ring and not ready at all, the only reason the fans got behind Reigns in that Rumble where Batista won was because he was the last option/alternative they would have went nuts for Santino Marella if he was amongst the final two nothing suggested they'd get behind him as a baby face in the same way they got behind Bryan.

So I think the biggest blunder was including Daniel Bryan in the Royal Rumble which was won by Reigns. Speaking of running excellent Characters, Batista is one of the greatest stars from the Ruthless Aggression era and that wasn't ruined, WWE made the big mistake of having him return as a babyface something which Batista strongly disagreed with and Vince learned the hard way that he got it wrong and Batista did eventually turn heel and did some excellent character work. On top of that Batista was promised a world title run which he never received from Vince and in general everything just left a sour taste for him, Vince also expected Guardians of the Galaxy to flop so perhaps he'd have treated Batista better if he knew he'd go onto become a Hollywood success.

Upon Batista's return in that year, I'd have had him comeback as a heel and protected him in terms of not having him lose so often. As he was promised a title run, I'd have Randy Orton drop the belt to a transitional champion who gives the belt up to Batista, then at Wrestlemania we still get the triple threat featuring Batista, Orton and Bryan but with Batista as the world champion who puts Bryan over and after that we could still have the Evolution reunion to feud with The Shield.

Batista is still bitter at the moment and as his hollywood career has taken off I doubt we will see him return to the WWE anytime soon, maybe there is mini run left in him but am not sure about it plus the guy is really old and even in his prime when he became champion he was a late bloomer. Batista for me was a huge star during the RA era, I'd rather not see him in an enforcer role that would be an insult to him imo it's what he made his debut with as Enforcer for D-Von Dudley; it's worth him coming back for a big match, like you say Batista v Rock could be decent but like I said his movie career has taken off and he's very old as well, also doesn't help how he wasn't treated right during his comeback
 
I want the Wargames back.

This was an insane match with blood all over the place and drama, tension, excitement. Dusty's gift to the rasslin' world.

Proof that you don't need weapons to be hardcore. You just need to put a bunch of people who hate each other in a big cage and see the hate (And crimson) flow.

 
shaz619 said:
I don't think Reigns not winning that Rumble where Batsita won was a big problem, what messed up his perception was including Daniel Bryan in the Royal Rumble the following year. WWE had no intention of having Bryan win so it defeated the purpose of including him especially after how hostile the fans became the previous year.

Reigns is a performer who has significantly improved all round now, assuming he did win the one where Batista won am not sure his place at the top would have been well received in the long run because the guy was still green in the ring and not ready at all, the only reason the fans got behind Reigns in that Rumble where Batista won was because he was the last option/alternative they would have went nuts for Santino Marella if he was amongst the final two nothing suggested they'd get behind him as a baby face in the same way they got behind Bryan.

So I think the biggest blunder was including Daniel Bryan in the Royal Rumble which was won by Reigns. Speaking of running excellent Characters, Batista is one of the greatest stars from the Ruthless Aggression era and that wasn't ruined, WWE made the big mistake of having him return as a babyface something which Batista strongly disagreed with and Vince learned the hard way that he got it wrong and Batista did eventually turn heel and did some excellent character work. On top of that Batista was promised a world title run which he never received from Vince and in general everything just left a sour taste for him, Vince also expected Guardians of the Galaxy to flop so perhaps he'd have treated Batista better if he knew he'd go onto become a Hollywood success.

Upon Batista's return in that year, I'd have had him comeback as a heel and protected him in terms of not having him lose so often. As he was promised a title run, I'd have Randy Orton drop the belt to a transitional champion who gives the belt up to Batista, then at Wrestlemania we still get the triple threat featuring Batista, Orton and Bryan but with Batista as the world champion who puts Bryan over and after that we could still have the Evolution reunion to feud with The Shield.

Batista is still bitter at the moment and as his hollywood career has taken off I doubt we will see him return to the WWE anytime soon, maybe there is mini run left in him but am not sure about it plus the guy is really old and even in his prime when he became champion he was a late bloomer. Batista for me was a huge star during the RA era, I'd rather not see him in an enforcer role that would be an insult to him imo it's what he made his debut with as Enforcer for D-Von Dudley; it's worth him coming back for a big match, like you say Batista v Rock could be decent but like I said his movie career has taken off and he's very old as well, also doesn't help how he wasn't treated right during his comeback
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What do you think about how WWE will book Brock v Goldberg II?

I personally think WWE should not throw these two in a match straight away. GB should return at survivor series maintaining the tradition of huge surprises at SS. However WWE will be stupid to throw him right back at brock. It will make no booking sense. Brock should completely squash Goldberg if this is the case.

Goldberg hasnt wrestled for over a decade whereas Brock has becoming the most physically powerful man in the world since then. I dont understand why GB is giving all of these cocky interviews about brock when he hasnt even signed a contract yet with WWE?
 
SchoolBoy said:
What do you think about how WWE will book Brock v Goldberg II?

I personally think WWE should not throw these two in a match straight away. GB should return at survivor series maintaining the tradition of huge surprises at SS. However WWE will be stupid to throw him right back at brock. It will make no booking sense. Brock should completely squash Goldberg if this is the case.

Goldberg hasnt wrestled for over a decade whereas Brock has becoming the most physically powerful man in the world since then. I dont understand why GB is giving all of these cocky interviews about brock when he hasnt even signed a contract yet with WWE?
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I mean if Goldberg does return it wouldn't be such a bad idea to throw him in the ring with Lesnar who is the biggest star in the company, it would also be an opportunity to have a better match then they did a WM 20 when Brock deliberately trolled the fans. From a storyline perspective the match sells itself, the two have history and are big names in their own right; they could go with a number of directions. Lesnar is on another level then he was in the early 2000's now, a much bigger star and while Goldberg was as popular as Austin if not greater at one point in his prime he remains a huge draw, e.g the Goldberg DVD which WWE released in 2013 is amongst the best selling in the companies history. Plus he has been away for a long time and it just adds to his aura, he has kept himself fit and is in very good shape and throughout the years has done some MMA training regularly.

In this day and age, a star of Goldberg's aura in fact compares against the star of Lesnar's magnitude at present. So WWE could afford to have Goldberg be very competetive against Lesnar, I see the match being booked similarly to Lesnar/Taker at SummerSlam last year but with Lesnar winning the match.

And speaking of the interviews, those are all promos mate :)) am pretty sure that GB and WWE have come to an agreement behind the scenes for a while now so all those interviews are there to create hype for his match against Lesnar. GB has been involved with the WWE ever since he agreed to the WWE 2K deal, in the past it was a gateway to a return as we've seen with the likes of Warrior and Sting.

SurvivorSeries wouldn't be a bad platform at all for the match but I think that GB could make his return there and plant the seeds for a match against Lesnar at the Royal Rumble (it's in the Alamodome in SanAntonio with a captacity of 70,000 now!) so it would make sense for the WWE to use GB's drawing power there or at Wrestlemania. The last time RR was held in the Alamodome, HBK beat Sid for his 2nd WWE championship before 60,000+.
 
Looking forward to No Mercy tonight. Ziggler vs Miz and the triple threat will be good matches I think
 
Goldberg vs Brock. Cannot think of a dream match which is gonna disappoint more. This is gonna disappoint more than their Wrestlemania 20 dud. Warrior vs Hogan Halloween Havoc 98 Redux?
 
SchoolBoy said:
Is it on sky sports or PPV?
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Hasan123 said:
Sky box office
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Don't watch on sky box office, sign up to the WWE Network online and get a month free no contract comittments but if you wish to continue after the months its £9.99 which is cheaper then what sky box office ask you to pay. You can watch the PPV online, on tablet, PS4, PC, Laptop etc in great quality that way and all the other content and old archive footage, RAW shows and PPV's.
 
shaz619 said:
Don't watch on sky box office, sign up to the WWE Network online and get a month free no contract comittments but if you wish to continue after the months its £9.99 which is cheaper then what sky box office ask you to pay. You can watch the PPV online, on tablet, PS4, PC, Laptop etc in great quality that way and all the other content and old archive footage, RAW shows and PPV's.
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Have you got WWE network
 
Hasan123 said:
Have you got WWE network
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I did for SummerSlam but not getting it for No Mercy because I can't watch it live as I have a 9am lecture on a Monday Morning :( otherwise really wanted to watch that PPV, Ziggie/Mizz is feud of the year and that triple threat has been built up amazingly well really looking forward to those matches
 
shaz619 said:
I did for SummerSlam but not getting it for No Mercy because I can't watch it live as I have a 9am lecture on a Monday Morning :( otherwise really wanted to watch that PPV, Ziggie/Mizz is feud of the year and that triple threat has been built up amazingly well really looking forward to those matches
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Damm unlucky bro. I'm watching it tommorow morning before work can't wait.

Ziggler vs Miz is hard to call tbh. Styles will win the triple threat.
 
Hasan123 said:
Damm unlucky bro. I'm watching it tommorow morning before work can't wait.

Ziggler vs Miz is hard to call tbh. Styles will win the triple threat.
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Get the network mate, it's a steal first month free anyway. Yeah it is but I feel like The Mizz has the momentum and can't lose but whatever happens it will be an interesting angle moving forward either way but I reckon Ziggie loses, there are some rumours that he could be moving to an agent role in the WWE so this career angle could be a worked shoot :/ would be sad to see him go but anyhow it will be an interesting couple of months coming up, the feud has been amazing. Styles should win but never bet against Chenaah in a championship match! :))
 
shaz619 said:
Get the network mate, it's a steal first month free anyway. Yeah it is but I feel like The Mizz has the momentum and can't lose but whatever happens it will be an interesting angle moving forward either way but I reckon Ziggie loses, there are some rumours that he could be moving to an agent role in the WWE so this career angle could be a worked shoot :/ would be sad to see him go but anyhow it will be an interesting couple of months coming up, the feud has been amazing. Styles should win but never bet against Chenaah in a championship match! :))
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Why is ziggler going to take an agent role? He still has plenty to offer WWE. Be interesting to see who mizs next opponent will be.

Big match John doesn't seem to be winning the big matches recently. :srt
 
Hasan123 said:
Why is ziggler going to take an agent role? He still has plenty to offer WWE. Be interesting to see who mizs next opponent will be.

Big match John doesn't seem to be winning the big matches recently. :srt
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Maybe is jaded, has been working for WWE a long time; he's in a good spot still but not in the main-event, however that can change on SD given that there are not many big names at the top of the card besides 3. That is rumour and I expect Ziggie to extend his feud with Mizz, it won't end at No Mercy.

He hasn't but he's still JOOOOOOHHN CEEEENAAAAAAAAA!


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Happy Birthday to Eddie Gurrero, he'll always be the most beloved superstar to us and this video is just an example of it, notice how he spends a significant amount of time in the crowd only Eddie could do that not one person was disrespectful but just showing him all the love he so greatly deserved


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No Mercy will open with the triple threat main event at 1am UK time as later in the day they'd be competing with basketball and elections
 
shaz619 said:
Maybe is jaded, has been working for WWE a long time; he's in a good spot still but not in the main-event, however that can change on SD given that there are not many big names at the top of the card besides 3. That is rumour and I expect Ziggie to extend his feud with Mizz, it won't end at No Mercy.

He hasn't but he's still JOOOOOOHHN CEEEENAAAAAAAAA!


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He isn't winning tonight as you have just put that the triple threat is the 1st match. Vince wouldn't want Cena to win his 16th reign in the 1st match of the night :))).

Cena is going to win the title no doubt about that. Just a question of when vince will pull the trigger and where he will do it. Could be Wrestlemania. Heard AJ is gonna get a long run. Think cena will beat aj to win his 16th reign.
 
Hasan123 said:
He isn't winning tonight as you have just put that the triple threat is the 1st match. Vince wouldn't want Cena to win his 16th reign in the 1st match of the night :))).

Cena is going to win the title no doubt about that. Just a question of when vince will pull the trigger and where he will do it. Could be Wrestlemania. Heard AJ is gonna get a long run. Think cena will beat aj to win his 16th reign.
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You never know with Vinny Mac :yk it doesn't matter, more people will tune in the first hour then the others due to competition and also pre-announcement of the 1st match

Or AJ Styles will drop the belt to Undertaker (who will be keen to wrestle Styles if he is still interested in being a pro-wrestlee these days....feel like Vinny forces him to get out of bed at 6am on a Monday once a year for WM, Taker is fed up) and then Cena beats Taker for the 16th at WM
 
shaz619 said:
You never know with Vinny Mac :yk it doesn't matter, more people will tune in the first hour then the others due to competition and also pre-announcement of the 1st match

Or AJ Styles will drop the belt to Undertaker (who will be keen to wrestle Styles if he is still interested in being a pro-wrestlee these days....feel like Vinny forces him to get out of bed at 6am on a Monday once a year for WM, Taker is fed up) and then Cena beats Taker for the 16th at WM
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And they say vinnie Mac is stupid. :misbah


Don't think taker vs styles would be that great tbh, ajs high flying movements don't really suit a slowish undertaker. Cena vs taker is fine. Heard aj might face randy orton.
 
Hasan123 said:
And they say vinnie Mac is stupid. :misbah


Don't think taker vs styles would be that great tbh, ajs high flying movements don't really suit a slowish undertaker. Cena vs taker is fine. Heard aj might face randy orton.
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Only morons call him stupid, Vince is a shrewd booker

You obviously havent grasped the greatness in AJ styles skill set who is more then just a spot monkey or high flyer, he's an adaptable in ring general who'd carry taker to an excellent match even at his age in fact AJ is the type of opponent Taker would be best paired with out of everyone on the roster he'd make his life easier in the ring. Reigns had his best matches with AJ, only casuals felt it would be a mis match they just dont get...it.

He probably will face him at some point and Bray Wyatt to, the Roster at the top is thin
 
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shaz619 said:
Only morons call him stupid, Vince is a shrewd booker

You obviously havent grasped the greatness in AJ styles skill set who is more then just a spot monkey or high flyer, he's an adaptable in ring general who'd carry taker to an excellent match even at his age in fact AJ is the type of opponent Taker would be best paired with out of everyone on the roster he'd make his life easier in the ring. Reigns had his best matches with AJ, only casuals felt it would be a mis match they just dont get...it.

He probably will face him at some point and Bray Wyatt to, the Roster at the top is thin
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Its not aj I would be worried about its Taker . Don't know if he has it in him to keep up with AJ. He's still in good shape so let's see. Reigns vs AJ Styles was a decent feud tbh, just shouldn't have involved the club too much.


Be interesting to see which NXT superstars are called up and to which brand. Also heard Shelton Benjamin may return next year. Him vs AJ would be brilliant to watch
 
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Its not aj I would be worried about its Taker . Don't know if he has it in him to keep up with AJ. He's still in good shape so let's see. Reigns vs AJ Styles was a decent feud tbh, just shouldn't have involved the club too much.


Be interesting to see which NXT superstars are called up and to which brand. Also heard Shelton Benjamin may return next year. Him vs AJ would be brilliant to watch
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:facepalm: which is exactly why AJ Styles would take good care of a fragile Taker! it's not about Taker keeping up pace, it's about having an entertaining match and taking care of your opponent in the ring which is the essence of in-ring work. You kids these days! pace you know :))) the likes of Buddy Rogers, Eddie Gurrero, Bob Bauklund and Randy Savage must be rolling in there graves, wrestling isn't all about non-stop high octane action or keeping up with the "pace" it's about controlling the pace, playing off the crowd, selling, telling a story in the ring, adjusting to your opponents strengths/weaknesses and getting the audience emotionally invested in a match without trying to kill yourself or your opponent. It's for these reasons Taker has requested to work with the likes of Daniel Bryan and CM Punk in the past because technicians make your life so much easier and have the ability to have a solid match, Styles is more then just a spot monkey as far as his in-ring work is concerned he's amongst the best and is incredibly versatile and similar to Shawn.

Anyway Ziggie/Mizz stole the show, incredible match and feud, everyone from creative to the wrestlers themselves deserve credit :bow:
 
I love that Styles wrestlers and works to win, and only resorts to the heel tactics when he needs to and that he does it on his own. Triple threat was great and good on WWE protecting Ambrose by having John take the fall who is expected to leave the WWE for now in order to shoot scenes for a TV Show he will be in. And with Ambrose/John simultaneously getting Styles to tap their feud with AJ will continue moving forward.
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] a big chunk of WWE superstars are Donald Trump supporters :)) not the sharpest tools in the box but us fans will always look beyond their bigotry because at the end of the day we support the TV characters they play on telly....
 
Good God almighty! I have awaited this dream match for years! GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG! only moronic fans that are out of touch can never appreciate the aura of the man called Goldberg and the once in a life time talent and ATG Brock LESNAR!

I'd have loved Taker v Goldberg but Takers age is an issue but it could happen. Cena v AJ 3 at mania and Taker v Goldberg, incredible! tear in my eye, THANK YOU VINNY MAC! THIS IS AWESOME!
 
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:facepalm: which is exactly why AJ Styles would take good care of a fragile Taker! it's not about Taker keeping up pace, it's about having an entertaining match and taking care of your opponent in the ring which is the essence of in-ring work. You kids these days! pace you know :))) the likes of Buddy Rogers, Eddie Gurrero, Bob Bauklund and Randy Savage must be rolling in there graves, wrestling isn't all about non-stop high octane action or keeping up with the "pace" it's about controlling the pace, playing off the crowd, selling, telling a story in the ring, adjusting to your opponents strengths/weaknesses and getting the audience emotionally invested in a match without trying to kill yourself or your opponent. It's for these reasons Taker has requested to work with the likes of Daniel Bryan and CM Punk in the past because technicians make your life so much easier and have the ability to have a solid match, Styles is more then just a spot monkey as far as his in-ring work is concerned he's amongst the best and is incredibly versatile and similar to Shawn.

Anyway Ziggie/Mizz stole the show, incredible match and feud, everyone from creative to the wrestlers themselves deserve credit :bow:
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I don't mind slower matches but I thought AJ is better suited to quicker paced matches. Would be interesting to see him vs Taker but don't see it happening. Think he will face John Cena.

Don't think it's the end of the fued.wouldn't be suprised if there was another match.
 
Potential match ups at mania

Goldberg v Taker

Goldberg v Cena

Cena v Styles

Styles v Goldberg

Lesnar v Styles

Lesnar v Shane

Shane v Styles

Lesnar v Goldberg will probably happen at Survivor Series now that Goldberg will be returning to the WWE next week
 
Hasan123 said:
I don't mind slower matches but I thought AJ is better suited to quicker paced matches. Would be interesting to see him vs Taker but don't see it happening. Think he will face John Cena.

Don't think it's the end of the fued.wouldn't be suprised if there was another match.
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AJ can work all paces and styles in same manner Shawn was able to, his size is deceiving but look at him as a specialist in-ring general. It's not about the pace of a match it's about controlling it. In the past Taker has requested to work with Punk and Bryan at mania because he knew they'd make his life easier. Yeah at the moment Cena/Taker and Cena/AJ 3 are the likely matches at mania (if this don't happen at WM it will happen before the PPV as AJ/Cena are not done), if Cena/Taker wrestle them am guessing AJ's opponent at mania will be Randy Orton which is another dream match
 
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Good god almighty! the prodigal son RETURNS to bury The BROID! [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION]

GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG!
 
shaz619 said:
AJ can work all paces and styles in same manner Shawn was able to, his size is deceiving but look at him as a specialist in-ring general. It's not about the pace of a match it's about controlling it. In the past Taker has requested to work with Punk and Bryan at mania because he knew they'd make his life easier. Yeah at the moment Cena/Taker and Cena/AJ 3 are the likely matches at mania (if this don't happen before WM it will happen before the PPV as AJ/Cena are not done), if Cena/Taker wrestle them am guessing AJ's opponent at mania will be Randy Orton which is another dream match
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AJ us a fantastic wrestler. Wwe did well to get him tbh. Hopefully they book him well. I was worried when dean and cena made him tap at no mercy. I thought it would be a battle between dean and cena than :)).

Randy vs AJ would be brilliant, think it might happen earlier than Wrestlemania. I wouldn't mind a card like this

Seth vs triple h
Finn balor vs ko
AJ vs Shelton Benjamin
Taker vs Cena
Samo joe vs Lesnar
 
Hasan123 said:
AJ us a fantastic wrestler. Wwe did well to get him tbh. Hopefully they book him well. I was worried when dean and cena made him tap at no mercy. I thought it would be a battle between dean and cena than :)).

Randy vs AJ would be brilliant, think it might happen earlier than Wrestlemania. I wouldn't mind a card like this

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Benjamin was supposed to return to the WWE, that guy was incredible in the ring just loved watching him go.

This would be mine as far as the main matches are concerned

Goldberg vs Undertaker

AJ v Cena 3 world title

Joe v Lesnar

Dean Ambrose v Bray Wyatt v Orton v Mizz v Ziggler v Benjamin 6 man Ladder match for the IC title

Heel KO v a baby face Jericho world title, storyline would be amazing and the two have great chemistry

Seth v HHH

Balor is still injured not sure when he will be available

But obviously certain matches we need to balance things out like can't always have to guys wrestle who are ring rusty so I'd have Cena/Taker and Goldberg/Styles or Styles/Taker and Goldberg/Cena, but Lesnar needs an opponent and Joe may not be moving up from NXT then it would have to be Cena/Taker, Styles/Lesnar and Goldberg/Randy-Orton
 
shaz619 said:
Benjamin was supposed to return to the WWE, that guy was incredible in the ring just loved watching him go.

This would be mine as far as the main matches are concerned

Goldberg vs Undertaker

AJ v Cena 3 world title

Joe v Lesnar

Dean Ambrose v Bray Wyatt v Orton v Mizz v Ziggler v Benjamin 6 man Ladder match for the IC title

Heel KO v a baby face Jericho world title, storyline would be amazing and the two have great chemistry

Seth v HHH

Balor is still injured not sure when he will be available

But obviously certain matches we need to balance things out like can't always have to guys wrestle who are ring rusty so I'd have Cena/Taker and Goldberg/Styles or Styles/Taker and Goldberg/Cena, but Lesnar needs an opponent and Joe may not be moving up from NXT then it would have to be Cena/Taker, Styles/Lesnar and Goldberg/Randy-Orton
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Apparently Shelton is returning early next year. He had some classic matches with Shawn so that shows he can compete with the best .

Not sure on Goldberg vs Taker tbh. Wish it had happened in Goldberg original wwe run.

Jericho is better as a heel but would be good for ko to win a main event match at Wrestlemania. Been a fan of KO is since day one.


Don't see Goldberg facing styles as it seems as though Goldberg is a raw superstar with drafts.

Well Joe has been on NXT for a long time, surely by next year he will be on the main roster.

Goldberg vs Orton would be good but depends on weather or not Goldberg will have a certain show which he's on or if he's allowed to free roam.
 
Hasan123 said:
Apparently Shelton is returning early next year. He had some classic matches with Shawn so that shows he can compete with the best .

Not sure on Goldberg vs Taker tbh. Wish it had happened in Goldberg original wwe run.

Jericho is better as a heel but would be good for ko to win a main event match at Wrestlemania. Been a fan of KO is since day one.


Don't see Goldberg facing styles as it seems as though Goldberg is a raw superstar with drafts.

Well Joe has been on NXT for a long time, surely by next year he will be on the main roster.

Goldberg vs Orton would be good but depends on weather or not Goldberg will have a certain show which he's on or if he's allowed to free roam.
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His return was announced few months ago but then he got injured. Not sure if he can perform at the level he once did though. Goldberg is on neither RAW or SD so if they like he could face someone like Styles. Yeah that's the only issue the age of both men otherwise it would be an amazing dream match Taker/Goldberg.

Jericho is a great heel but in his current gimmick he could easily turn face because the crowd are always chanting for him because he has reminded them once again why we love him so much with his most recent run.

Joe has been in NXT long because that's what he prefers and doesn't enjoy life on the rope or the intense WWE schdule and at his age likes to relax a bit, that's not saying he won't move up but I have doubts about it and the other thing, HHH likes to keep certain talent exclusive to NXT because the brand is still a draw on the Network and they are sought of in the rebuilding phase after many of their wrestlers gaining promotions to the main roster.

It would be a great match, Orton would carry him and do the job as well because Goldberg would probably want his kid to see him win and someone like Orton doesn't have an ego and is a big name so it all works. People think it's easy to get these names to return and they will complain about booking but they don't understand the extent of negotiations, all things come in not just pay but creative as well.
 
shaz619 said:
Good god almighty! the prodigal son RETURNS to bury The BROID! [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION]

GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG!
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Big question is, who's going over? Lesnar or Goldberg?
 
Red Devil said:
Big question is, who's going over? Lesnar or Goldberg?
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It will be Lesnar as he is the most protected star since Andre the Giant because of his drawing power and how big his star has grown since his initial run in the WWE. But in the confines of the WWE world the likes of Taker and Goldberg have the legitimacy to be competitive in the ring or even go over although it would be dirty.
 
shaz619 said:
It will be Lesnar as he is the most protected star since Andre the Giant because of his drawing power and how big his star has grown since his initial run in the WWE. But in the confines of the WWE world the likes of Taker and Goldberg have the legitimacy to be competitive in the ring or even go over although it would be dirty.
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Yeah I thought so too. Man I can't wait for his entrance, hope they use the original WCW theme. :akhtar
 
shaz619 said:
His return was announced few months ago but then he got injured. Not sure if he can perform at the level he once did though. Goldberg is on neither RAW or SD so if they like he could face someone like Styles. Yeah that's the only issue the age of both men otherwise it would be an amazing dream match Taker/Goldberg.

Jericho is a great heel but in his current gimmick he could easily turn face because the crowd are always chanting for him because he has reminded them once again why we love him so much with his most recent run.

Joe has been in NXT long because that's what he prefers and doesn't enjoy life on the rope or the intense WWE schdule and at his age likes to relax a bit, that's not saying he won't move up but I have doubts about it and the other thing, HHH likes to keep certain talent exclusive to NXT because the brand is still a draw on the Network and they are sought of in the rebuilding phase after many of their wrestlers gaining promotions to the main roster.

It would be a great match, Orton would carry him and do the job as well because Goldberg would probably want his kid to see him win and someone like Orton doesn't have an ego and is a big name so it all works. People think it's easy to get these names to return and they will complain about booking but they don't understand the extent of negotiations, all things come in not just pay but creative as well.
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Has it been confirmed that Goldberg doesn't have a show? Haven't heard that myself.

Jericho current run is hilarious and entertaining. The way he evolves his character is fantastic. Seems like he's a face when he puts people on the list.

Never knew that about Joe, but he wasn't signed to be an exclusive to NXT. Him and Nakamura won't be need on NXT for much longer. Raw could do with another main eventer, as after ko is done with rollins there aren't many competitors for ko.

Goldberg will be on a very good contract and wwe would have laid down his plans for him. They must have something good planned for him otherwise I don't think he would sign just to face Brock.
 
I'm delighted with Goldberg coming back as I'm a big fan of his but I don't want to see him up against Lesnar. I don't care what anyone says but for me Lesnar is the most boring wrestler atm. I'm sick and bored of his two moves of doom. All his matches follow the same pattern. That's where WWE made a big mistake by presenting him as this unstoppable monster. It was fun at first but it got boring very quickly. I don't want him dominating Goldberg as Goldberg himself is a monster. And given how poor there last match was when Lesnar was a proper wrestler, I have no hope for their rematch to be any better given that Lesnar only does two moves these days. I wanna see Goldberg against Triple H or John Cena. I won't mind a Goldberg Taker match at Mania either but please no Goldberg Lesnar.
 
The_KING said:
I'm delighted with Goldberg coming back as I'm a big fan of his but I don't want to see him up against Lesnar. I don't care what anyone says but for me Lesnar is the most boring wrestler atm. I'm sick and bored of his two moves of doom. All his matches follow the same pattern. That's where WWE made a big mistake by presenting him as this unstoppable monster. It was fun at first but it got boring very quickly. I don't want him dominating Goldberg as Goldberg himself is a monster. And given how poor there last match was when Lesnar was a proper wrestler, I have no hope for their rematch to be any better given that Lesnar only does two moves these days. I wanna see Goldberg against Triple H or John Cena. I won't mind a Goldberg Taker match at Mania either but please no Goldberg Lesnar.
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That's how Lesnar matches are booked, it doesn't define whether he is a good wrestler or a boring one when he is portraying an unstoppable beast gimmick after winning the UFC title and ending the streak, if Vince wanted him to be a technical wizzard from 2000's Lesnar is capablen of that to, we're talking about a freak here who is also a freestyle wrestling champ. But Lesnar remains over with fans so why change things up when Vince can prolong his future by having him take fewer bumps. HHH does more then 2 moves and still couldn't get the crowd to react in his match with Roman.

Lesnar will not be allowed to squash Goldberg, this is Goldberg we are talking about. Lesnar v Goldberg wasnt great mainly because Lesnar was trolling the fans who were booing him and Goldberg for leaving, he didn't go through the agreed spots and took the mick.

Don't wanna see HHH tried to use his shovel against Goldberg again and have another awful match with him in the process, dude bores me to death and his in-ring work is so desperate and forcefull, no flow to it. It is good that Seth Rollins will face him at mania so we can get a passable match out of Hunter
 
^^^^^

Lesnar/Goldberg is booked for SurvivorSeries and not Mania btw
 
shaz619 said:
That's how Lesnar matches are booked, it doesn't define whether he is a good wrestler or a boring one when he is portraying an unstoppable beast gimmick after winning the UFC title and ending the streak, if Vince wanted him to be a technical wizzard from 2000's Lesnar is capablen of that to, we're talking about a freak here who is also a freestyle wrestling champ. But Lesnar remains over with fans so why change things up when Vince can prolong his future by having him take fewer bumps. HHH does more then 2 moves and still couldn't get the crowd to react in his match with Roman.

Lesnar will not be allowed to squash Goldberg, this is Goldberg we are talking about. Lesnar v Goldberg wasnt great mainly because Lesnar was trolling the fans who were booing him and Goldberg for leaving, he didn't go through the agreed spots and took the mick.

Don't wanna see HHH tried to use his shovel against Goldberg again and have another awful match with him in the process, dude bores me to death and his in-ring work is so desperate and forcefull, no flow to it. It is good that Seth Rollins will face him at mania so we can get a passable match out of Hunter
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I know HHH is politician but that doesn't take away from the fact that he is a very good wrestler. I hope we get a Taker Goldberg match at Mania. That's what I want.
 
The_KING said:
I know HHH is politician but that doesn't take away from the fact that he is a very good wrestler. I hope we get a Taker Goldberg match at Mania. That's what I want.
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He's okay but not THAT good. His awful match with Roman in a high profile situation has belittled him quiet a bit in my estimation. I want that match to a dream match of mine Lesnar/Goldberg is going to happen at Survivor Series anway, and there's a chance Taker/Goldberg will happen at mania. But issue is both are inactive competitors, sometimes it's not wise to stick them together; then again WWE did that with Shane/Taker at mania. I
 
[MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] would be epic if Goldberg don't show up on RAW next week but Ryback returns repackaged as Goldberg :))) :)))
 
TNA might be getting purchased by WWE soon, I'm hearing. I was a big TNA fan between 2005-09 when they were quite decent. But in recent years, they have been awful and they deserve it. I don't feel bad for them should that happen.
 
The_KING said:
TNA might be getting purchased by WWE soon, I'm hearing. I was a big TNA fan between 2005-09 when they were quite decent. But in recent years, they have been awful and they deserve it. I don't feel bad for them should that happen.
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Over the past couple of years their product has improved significantly but the overall perception has been damaged beyond repair but gems like the stuff they've been doing with their women, x-division, main-event scene, creative video montages, matt hardy's character and cinematic take on pro-wrestling have all been positives. Their library will be purchased by the WWE and the company will be rebranded so TNA is pretty much dead
 
shaz619 said:
Over the past couple of years their product has improved significantly but the overall perception has been damaged beyond repair but gems like the stuff they've been doing with their women, x-division, main-event scene, creative video montages, matt hardy's character and cinematic take on pro-wrestling have all been positives. Their library will be purchased by the WWE and the company will be rebranded so TNA is pretty much dead
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It's not a character, you obsolete mule! You have been targetted for deletion, Brother Bear.

Senor Benjamin! Prepare the battlefield for MASSACRE!
 
leatherface58 said:
It's not a character, you obsolete mule! You have been targetted for deletion, Brother Bear.

Senor Benjamin! Prepare the battlefield for MASSACRE!
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How delightful!

I will see you INTREPID Soldier tonight, the non-believers will be DELETED!

DELETE! DELETE! DELETED!
 
Am not sure if any of you picked up on this but during Styles/Ellsworth on SD this week, James looked incredibly awkward while taking the styles clash. When I watched thr footage again, saw that James was tucking his head! You're not meant to tuck your head while taking the Styles clash, it could have resulted in a career ending injury!

On the last second, AJ Styles saw that James was tucking his head and he'd let go ensuring that James didn't absorb the full impact of the Styles Clash and then he looked over immediately to see if he was okay
[MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]

Just further reiterates how good AJ is and we should thank him for saving a future hall of famer!
 
shaz619 said:
Am not sure if any of you picked up on this but during Styles/Ellsworth on SD this week, James looked incredibly awkward while taking the styles clash. When I watched thr footage again, saw that James was tucking his head! You're not meant to tuck your head while taking the Styles clash, it could have resulted in a career ending injury!

On the last second, AJ Styles saw that James was tucking his head and he'd let go ensuring that James didn't absorb the full impact of the Styles Clash and then he looked over immediately to see if he was okay

[MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]

Just further reiterates how good AJ is and we should thank him for saving a future hall of famer!
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Elsworth is a real idiot. don't know what he was thinking
 
The King of Kings said:
Elsworth is a real idiot. don't know what he was thinking
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That was pretty reckless, it's just common sense now that you need to tuck your head/neck in while taking the clash. Watch the clip slowly and pay attention to how AJ Styles lands on his left leg so James doesn't have to take the full force of the blow had he dropped on both legs like he normally does [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]:

Watch from 1:12 - 1:13 and keep pausing to see how AJ's right leg/hand stabilises the situation by remaining grounded:


Elsworth is really lucky AJ noticed that lmao :))) am surprised he managed to it's really difficult in that blind spot, luckiest jobber alive.
 
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Only one thing to say.....


...GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDBEEERG GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDBEEEERG GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDBERG
 
TalhaSyed said:
Only one thing to say.....


...GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDBEEERG GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDBEEEERG GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDBERG
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Bloody hell bro did you just find out :))) You missed all our excited posts

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Me and baby/Queen [MENTION=95766]leatherface58[/MENTION] (not a big fan of Goldberg)
 
shaz619 said:
Bloody hell bro did you just find out :))) You missed all our excited posts

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Me and baby/Queen [MENTION=95766]leatherface58[/MENTION] (not a big fan of Goldberg)
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Haha :))

Nah man just haven't been on this thread in a long time!!

Didn''t wanna miss out on the excitement so thought better late than never :yk
 
shaz619 said:
That was pretty reckless, it's just common sense now that you need to tuck your head/neck in while taking the clash. Watch the clip slowly and pay attention to how AJ Styles lands on his left leg so James doesn't have to take the full force of the blow had he dropped on both legs like he normally does [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]:

Watch from 1:12 - 1:13 and keep pausing to see how AJ's right leg/hand stabilises the situation by remaining grounded:


Elsworth is really lucky AJ noticed that lmao :))) am surprised he managed to it's really difficult in that blind spot, luckiest jobber alive.
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AJ is an absolute pro. Hell, if he wants, he can actually have a proper wrestling match with James Ellsworth and make him look credible. Not that Ellsworth is a bad wrestler but AJ might even make it seem like James got some credible offense in.

A complete and total pro and he is doing great mic work too.
 
leatherface58 said:
AJ is an absolute pro. Hell, if he wants, he can actually have a proper wrestling match with James Ellsworth and make him look credible. Not that Ellsworth is a bad wrestler but AJ might even make it seem like James got some credible offense in.

A complete and total pro and he is doing great mic work too.
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Totally agree, Jericho keeps mentioning how he helped his transition to the WWE and we got to give him credit for that :)) During the SS weekend, Jericho will host AJ Styles once again on his Talk is Jericho podcast but this time it will be live. The first one they did was during the phase where Styles was finding his feet in the WWE and this one will cover his journey since. It's funny how Jericho goes out of his way to give himself credit :))) anyway he's the last leader of the locker room we have, Cena is up there but Y2J is the last of his kind :( I feel like crying thinking about the fact that this is his final full time run.

It's amazing though the insight we get into the backstage stuff in this non-kayfabe era. Love those podcasts. Styles is amongst the ATG's for me but he needs a couple more years on top in the WWE to solidify his status. Did you see the match from start to finish? see how AJ sold that right hand from James LOL was a fun little match, didn't enjoy AJ losing but got it in the confines of the feud. Also, credit to James to because he's done a terrific job portraying his jobber character, there's a place for such wrestlers in the industry and those who are great provide great value. Slater's another jobber who is awesome but is punching above his weight on SD thanks to the backing of creative.
 
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